Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
Thanks to all for clarifying the situation. I was not aware, that such services exist. Regards Dieter Am 06.12.2014 11:59, schrieb David Allsopp: Dieter wrote: Hi Christian, I really do not want anything being mirrored. So my questions are (to you and the MusixTex community): (1) Who is behind gmane.org and mail-archive.com, who are already mirorring our mail? gmane isn't just mirroring - its primary purpose is to convert an email list to NNTP (news). (2) Does anyone see any benefit in these mirroring activities? I don't use it personally, but I know from other lists of plenty of people who use gmane as their preferred mailing list reader. (3) Have they been authorized by Werner Icking Music Archive tex- mu...@tug.org to do so? This is a public mailing list with no restrictions on signing up: IANAL, but no authorisation is required to use the unaltered content of the list further (certainly in the UK and the US). (4) How can they do this technically and legally? They have probably signed up a bot to the mailing list. Legally, see (3). (5) What can we do to stop this and remove our mails from these sites? Personally, I find mail archives useful for this and many other lists which I am on (and find it slightly daft that a public mailing list restricts its mailman archives to subscribed users). In my opinion, the only (unfortunate) issue here is that you hadn't considered that this is a public list. Equally, my home address (being also my business address) is on my website, so my paranoia regarding email signatures is somewhat less than yours! :o) David --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
Hi Christian, I really do not want anything being mirrored. So my questions are (to you and the MusixTex community): (1) Who is behind gmane.org and mail-archive.com, who are already mirorring our mail? (2) Does anyone see any benefit in these mirroring activities? (3) Have they been authorized by Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@tug.org to do so? (4) How can they do this technically and legally? (5) What can we do to stop this and remove our mails from these sites? Regards, Dieter Am 05.12.2014 19:42, schrieb Christian Mondrup: maurizio .mau. codogno wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote: hi, I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on certain mirror sites: permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675 comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682 https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about this? mail-archive.org is actually a mirror; the other ones are unknown at least to me. I've had a look at the other 2 links. By reading the gmane.org 'about' information, http://gmane.org/faq.php I feel comfortable about this project. If we really want its mirroring of texmusic taken down there are instructions on how to accomplish that. But I don't see any reason to do so. Greetings -- Dr. Dieter Glötzel Im Rosengarten 27 64367 Mühltal Tel.: 06151 / 360 82 72 --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
Dieter wrote: Hi Christian, I really do not want anything being mirrored. So my questions are (to you and the MusixTex community): (1) Who is behind gmane.org as I wrote in my previous posting that information is available at http://gmane.org/faq.php and mail-archive.com, who are already mirorring our mail? (2) Does anyone see any benefit in these mirroring activities? (3) Have they been authorized by Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@tug.org to do so? yes, many years ago we actively asked mail-archive.com to mirror our list in order to provide a searchable list archive, see the top left 'menu lines' of WIMA's welcoming page, http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php (4) How can they do this technically and legally? (5) What can we do to stop this and remove our mails from these sites? Personally I don't want to nor see any reason to drop these two mirrorings Greetings -- Christian Mondrup WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
Dieter wrote: Hi Christian, I really do not want anything being mirrored. So my questions are (to you and the MusixTex community): (1) Who is behind gmane.org and mail-archive.com, who are already mirorring our mail? gmane isn't just mirroring - its primary purpose is to convert an email list to NNTP (news). (2) Does anyone see any benefit in these mirroring activities? I don't use it personally, but I know from other lists of plenty of people who use gmane as their preferred mailing list reader. (3) Have they been authorized by Werner Icking Music Archive tex- mu...@tug.org to do so? This is a public mailing list with no restrictions on signing up: IANAL, but no authorisation is required to use the unaltered content of the list further (certainly in the UK and the US). (4) How can they do this technically and legally? They have probably signed up a bot to the mailing list. Legally, see (3). (5) What can we do to stop this and remove our mails from these sites? Personally, I find mail archives useful for this and many other lists which I am on (and find it slightly daft that a public mailing list restricts its mailman archives to subscribed users). In my opinion, the only (unfortunate) issue here is that you hadn't considered that this is a public list. Equally, my home address (being also my business address) is on my website, so my paranoia regarding email signatures is somewhat less than yours! :o) David --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
hi, I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on certain mirror sites: /permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675 / / comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682/http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=enu=http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682prev=search /https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html / Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about this? I am only a bit nervous, because I left inadvertently my home adress on some of these. Regards, Dieter --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
Hi, I tried that link and got Not found Regards, Hartmut PS I am not active on the board but have been interested for years!! Am 05.12.2014 um 14:54 schrieb Dieter: hi, I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on certain mirror sites: /permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675 / / comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682/http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=enu=http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682prev=search /https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html / Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about this? I am only a bit nervous, because I left inadvertently my home adress on some of these. Regards, Dieter --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote: hi, I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on certain mirror sites: permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675 comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682 https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about this? mail-archive.org is actually a mirror; the other ones are unknown at least to me. ciao, .mau. --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?
maurizio .mau. codogno wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote: hi, I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on certain mirror sites: permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675 comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682 https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about this? mail-archive.org is actually a mirror; the other ones are unknown at least to me. I've had a look at the other 2 links. By reading the gmane.org 'about' information, http://gmane.org/faq.php I feel comfortable about this project. If we really want its mirroring of texmusic taken down there are instructions on how to accomplish that. But I don't see any reason to do so. Greetings -- Christian Mondrup WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
