[Texascavers] Not Exactly Cave Related, But Mexico and Geology Related...

2008-12-24 Thread Don Cooper
About the distance between Uvalde and Del Rio, west of Del Rio - there's a
concentration of what appear to be volcanic craters.
I was doing a 'satellite geology field trip' of the Del Rio area and noticed
what looks very much like craters and possible calderas.
I hoped that perhaps someone familiar with this part of northern Mexico
might know a little about this area.
Is this an igneous region or it possibly a mix of limestone and extinct
volcanoes?
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=sll=29.609282,-102.531967sspn=0.269835,0.4422ie=UTF8ll=29.382175,-102.513428spn=0.27044,0.4422t=hz=11
Thanks,
WaV


[Texascavers] Bustamante video

2008-12-24 Thread Gill Ediger
A Hollywood production it was not. Wasn't meant to be. But it was 
pretty damned impressive for what it was. I could find technical 
faults with the video if that were what I was watching it for but I 
wasn't; I was looking to see how the commercial lighting  and other 
development worked out and I was pleased with what I saw. I didn't 
know a person could take that many different shots in the entrance 
room alone and I've been there well over 40--maybe 50--times. There's 
a lot of stuff to see.  Thanks to yall producers there, Nico.


--Ediger

At 04:10 PM 12/24/2008, Nico Escamilla wrote:
Here's a http://nsscavers.ning.com/video/1981829:Video:28444link 
to yours truly and a friend's first try at shooting cave video it 
was in Bustamante, we had access while the cave was closed to get 
footage for the ICS promo, the tunnel as y'all saw it on both the 
youtube video (which was shot by my aunt's brother btw) and my video 
was still not finished. I like the new walkway, it made the cave 
pretty much universally accesible.

NSS Online Cavers might ask you to sign up to watch the video.

Nico

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Preston Forsythe 
mailto:pns_...@bellsouth.netpns_...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Someone needs to bring in one or more of those 1200 watt electronic 
strobes, take a lot of pictures one section or wall at a time then 
add some creativity and do some stitching and splicing and crank out 
some world class 2 ft x 3 ft prints for a world class cave.


Preston
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] video of G. del Palmito


I found it interesting just for the view of the tunnel and raised  trails.

Maybe some of the video folks I've seen hanging around from 
Austin  could put a good promo together for them.


Joe

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On Dec 24, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Mixon Bill 
mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.combmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:


Boy, once they really decided to develop the entrance room, 
they  went hog-wild. I've seen more artistic lighting


That video is terrible. And more than half of it is a slide 
show,  and the slides weren't even culled to remove the hopeless 
ones. They  need a decent promo video. -- Mixon

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[Texascavers] A bunch of Grutas videos

2008-12-24 Thread Gill Ediger

At 11:09 AM 12/24/2008, jran...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gMzjf460qw


Actually, there are a whole bunch (20 or so) of videos in Mexican 
caves associated (up and down the You-Tube menu) including more 
Bustamante, Cacahualmilpa, and float trips down the Rio San Jeronimo, 
cenotes in Yucatan, some water falls in and out of caves, volcanoes, 
and a few pretty girls in bikinis nearby. But you don't have to look 
at that part.


--Ediger


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[Texascavers] MARK YOUR CALENDARS! - TSA and TCMA Winter Meetings at CBSP, Sunday, January 11th

2008-12-24 Thread Mark . Alman
 

All,

 

 

Before everyone heads out for Christmas and other Holiday events and
before most of us damage a few million brain cells on New Years' Eve,

I just wanted y'all to mark your calendars while you're still conscious
and in an upright position:

 

 

TSA and TCMA Winter Business Meetings Will Be at Colorado Bend SP
Conference Center, Sunday, January 11th!

 

   

 

Here's your chance to meet the new TSA officers and hobnob with TCMA
officers and fellow cavers!

 

Come on down the second weekend of January for the always excellent CBSP
Caving Project on Saturday and stick around for the meetings Sunday, at
9 for the TSA, 10-ish for the TCMA.

 

 

Good times will occur, plenty of opportunities for caving, and great
accommodations are available at the Conference Center, or you may rough
it at the Cavers Camp.  

 

 

If you have any issues you'd liked discussed, TSA wise, please email
them to me for inclusion in the meeting agenda.

 

 

All of us in the TSA would like to see a HUGE response to this weekend,
especially from all of the new and younger caver crowd I've had the
pleasure working with this past year.

 

 

 

Hope to see you and come lend us your thoughts and ideas to the
direction of caving in Texas in 2009 and beyond!

 

 

 

Thanks and may your holidays be safe and 2009 be the best year ever for
you, your family, and the caving community here in Texas!

 

 

 

Mark Alman

 

Editor - The TEXAS CAVER

TSA Secretary - 2008

TSA Chairman - 2009

 

 

 

 



[Texascavers] Want to go to Brinco?

2008-12-24 Thread Gill Ediger
We could use a couple of riders to Brinco. Leaving Friday and will 
return a day or two after New Years. This is primarily a work trip 
for me but there will be ample time for caving. I'm buying the fuel this time.


Respond here or call me at:

410-303-1177

to discuss details.

--Ediger


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[Texascavers] A video of Grutas Bustamante

2008-12-24 Thread jranzau

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gMzjf460qw

It shows the tunnel and new trail system.


[Texascavers] video of G. del Palmito

2008-12-24 Thread Mixon Bill
Boy, once they really decided to develop the entrance room, they went  
hog-wild. I've seen more artistic lighting


That video is terrible. And more than half of it is a slide show, and  
the slides weren't even culled to remove the hopeless ones. They need  
a decent promo video. -- Mixon

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Re: [Texascavers] video of G. del Palmito

2008-12-24 Thread Joe Ranzau
I found it interesting just for the view of the tunnel and raised  
trails.


Maybe some of the video folks I've seen hanging around from Austin  
could put a good promo together for them.


Joe

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On Dec 24, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Boy, once they really decided to develop the entrance room, they  
went hog-wild. I've seen more artistic lighting


That video is terrible. And more than half of it is a slide show,  
and the slides weren't even culled to remove the hopeless ones. They  
need a decent promo video. -- Mixon

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Re: [Texascavers] video of G. del Palmito

2008-12-24 Thread Preston Forsythe
Someone needs to bring in one or more of those 1200 watt electronic strobes, 
take a lot of pictures one section or wall at a time then add some 
creativity and do some stitching and splicing and crank out some world class 
2 ft x 3 ft prints for a world class cave.


Preston
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I found it interesting just for the view of the tunnel and raised  trails.

Maybe some of the video folks I've seen hanging around from Austin  could 
put a good promo together for them.


Joe

j...@oztotl.com

Sent while mobile

On Dec 24, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Boy, once they really decided to develop the entrance room, they  went 
hog-wild. I've seen more artistic lighting


That video is terrible. And more than half of it is a slide show,  and 
the slides weren't even culled to remove the hopeless ones. They  need a 
decent promo video. -- Mixon

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Re: [Texascavers] video of G. del Palmito

2008-12-24 Thread Nico Escamilla
Here's a link http://nsscavers.ning.com/video/1981829:Video:28444 to yours
truly and a friend's first try at shooting cave video it was in Bustamante,
we had access while the cave was closed to get footage for the ICS promo,
the tunnel as y'all saw it on both the youtube video (which was shot by my
aunt's brother btw) and my video was still not finished. I like the new
walkway, it made the cave pretty much universally accesible.
NSS Online Cavers might ask you to sign up to watch the video.

Nico

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Someone needs to bring in one or more of those 1200 watt electronic
 strobes, take a lot of pictures one section or wall at a time then add some
 creativity and do some stitching and splicing and crank out some world class
 2 ft x 3 ft prints for a world class cave.

 Preston
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] video of G. del Palmito


  I found it interesting just for the view of the tunnel and raised  trails.

 Maybe some of the video folks I've seen hanging around from Austin  could
 put a good promo together for them.

 Joe

 j...@oztotl.com

 Sent while mobile

 On Dec 24, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:

  Boy, once they really decided to develop the entrance room, they  went
 hog-wild. I've seen more artistic lighting

 That video is terrible. And more than half of it is a slide show,  and
 the slides weren't even culled to remove the hopeless ones. They  need a
 decent promo video. -- Mixon
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[ot_caving] FW: Santa Claus Bailout Hearings

2008-12-24 Thread Fritz Holt



From: Jacquetta Breedlove [mailto:bl...@vownet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:03 AM
To: ;
Subject: Santa Claus Bailout Hearings


This is great!  Even if Santa looks like he should be on the sex offenders 
list. [cid:2A9360965C8946B7AA576AFA8CDD9540@JacquettePC] 
http://www.schmaili.com/

Jackie


I really like the comparison between a wish list from Mexican kids vs. the list 
from the son of one of the Reps, which includes a 52 plasma TV!  Too funny!

This was Santa's reply to the corporate jet issue:

I take a sled to work every single day of every year; and, that thing couldn't 
be greener if it ran on soybeans and baby farts.

click:  YouTube - Santa Claus Bailout 
Hearingshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxBl9BXLom4eurl=http://laughlines.blogs.nytimes.com/

or go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxBl9BXLom4eurl=http://laughlines.blogs.nytimes.com/