[Texascavers] Invitation to go caving at Spring Creek Cave
Texas cavers, The DFW Grotto will resume its project to continue the exploration and mapping of Spring Creek Cave, about 15 miles north of Boerne, Texas, the weekend before Thanksgiving, Nov. 20 - 21. If you would like to see this easy and interesting cave, please join us. I only ask that you let me know that you are planning to come. We will be camping at the cavers' campsite at nearby Cave Without a Name both Friday and Saturday nights. Spring Creek Cave is a wetsuit cave. You will be swimming in deep water, but fins are not necessary. A trip to the waterfall shaft about 4,000 feet into the cave, is a recommended destination. There are excellent photo opportunities. Besides touring the cave, if you would like to join a mapping team, and perhaps an exploration team (we need a team to push and map a side passage), which will require dealing with mud in addition to the water, let me know and I'll tell you about it. Contact me offline. Bill Steele Irving, Texas - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] IT's BAAAACK! Longhorn Caverns State Park Project, Saturday, November 6th.
Alright, all you caving ghouls! Having gotten your bellies full of candy, sweets, orange beer (?), razor blade filled caramel corn balls and apples, and still wearing that Halloween make up, it's time to work off those calories, get those cobwebs outta your hair, and lose that sunken look to your face by helping out at Longhorn Caverns this fall! This will be occurring the first Saturday of November, December, February, March, April, and culminating in May. The staff of LCSP is very enthusiastic about having the TSA back and involved and plans several surprises for us later on. Some of the tasks we have in mind will occur above the cave, in the cave, and WAAAY back in the cave. They're listed below and, if interested, contact me offline, expressing what are you're interested in: *Ridgewalking/surveying/mapping known and unknown caves on the Park property (depends on cavers familiar with the Park layout participating). *Continuing the ongoing survey WAAY in the back of the cave, near Crownover, around the sump area (Peter Sprouse heading up, but, ease of access is contingent on a couple of unknowns: water levels and whether the Crownover Causeway has silted back in or not. Unknown at this point). May have to start this up in December, once the above conditions are know. *Trail Rebuilding in the cave. Quite a few areas of the cave, Lovers Lane, in particular, were washed out this spring and need to be rebuilt. I'll be heading this up and it WILL begin in November. Could use folks with experience in building trails. There are a plethora of other projects the park has in mind for us, but, this is just the start. (They didn't want to overwhelm us!). If you have any interest or experience in the above, please give me a scream. We will be meeting at the Visitors center at Longhorn Cavern State Park 9-ish on Saturday. Please bring your own water, food, and camping gear, as camping will be available at the LCSP Picnic area both Friday and Saturday nights. Please reply, off line, if you'll be coming or have any questions. If you don't hear back from me right away, don't fret and howl in the night and think I'm ignoring you. I will be in the Guads next week and, happily, out of reach of cellphones, Facebook, TV, and the Net. Thanks and have a good weekend! Mark Alman
[Texascavers] Maverick Grotto is no more ?
The website of the Maverick Grotto states that the grotto is inactive at the moment. Anyone out there care to comment on whether this is simply the summer doldrums or indicative of a more serious situation for the grotto. Jerry.
Re: [Texascavers] Maverick Grotto is no more ?
I don't think we've had a meeting since about this time last year, we lost our chairman and lack of interest never replaced him. We do have 2 other grotto's in the same area, DFW and Cowtown. Charles On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:57 AM, jerryat...@aol.com wrote: The website of the Maverick Grotto states that the grotto is inactive at the moment. Anyone out there care to comment on whether this is simply the summer doldrums or indicative of a more serious situation for the grotto. Jerry.
texascavers Digest 22 Oct 2010 16:14:26 -0000 Issue 1175
texascavers Digest 22 Oct 2010 16:14:26 - Issue 1175 Topics (messages 16385 through 16400): Re: Texas Cavers Reunion 16385 by: caverarch.aol.com Re: UIS Anthem Competition 16386 by: Ed Goff Art work needed 16387 by: Geary Schindel Re: Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010 16388 by: Jay Jorden 16390 by: ellie.thoene.gmail.com 16391 by: Dale Barnard Fall TCMA Passages online 16389 by: Joe Evelynn Mitchell 16392 by: germanyj.aol.com Maverick Grotto is no more ? 16393 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 16399 by: Charles Goldsmith Texas Cavers Reunion 2010 16394 by: Denise P 16397 by: Don Cooper 16398 by: Fritz Holt Invitation to go caving at Spring Creek Cave 16395 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com IT's BCK! Longhorn Caverns State Park Project, Saturday, November 6th. 16396 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com New Project! Inner Space Caverns 16400 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- David set out to go but fate or something like that intervened and it was not to be. But he was able to visit a vineyard en route (that was supposed to say). -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com To: Cave Tex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 10:37 am Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Texas Cavers Reunion I didn't see him either, I don't think he made it. We normally see him arrive super-late at the 'kitchen'. Stefan -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] I missed seeing David Locklear show up for the event--I expected to see him right before/after Saturday night's dinner, but I don't know if he ever made it. Diana -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi George, Too bad it can't be based on existing music. The Internationale is in the public domain and you'd only need to change a few words: Debout, les damnés de la terre Debout, chatières des cavernes La raison tonne en son cratère C'est l'éruption de la fin Du passé faisons table rase Spéléologues, debout, debout Le monde va changer de base Nous ne sommes rien, soyons tout C'est la lutte finale Groupons-nous, et demain L'Internationale de Spéléologie Sera le genre humain! Ed On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:25 AM, George Veni wrote: Dear Friends, If you were at the International Congress of Speleology last year, you may remember that it began by the first raising of the UIS’ (International Union of Speleology) flag. Everyone was pleased to see the flag, but something was missing. It was very quiet. When a flag is raised, it is usually raised with music. Below is information from Ian Chandler who is organizing a competition to create an anthem for the UIS. I am sending this message to a couple of caver e-mail lists, plus several cavers around the world who are musically talented or who may know musically talented people. Please feel free to distribute this message to other people you think may be interested in writing an anthem for the UIS. Please send any questions and entries to Ian Chandler (see below). George - UIS Anthem Conditions of competition Entries to be between 60 to 90 seconds in length All entries must be provided digitally to the UIS Bureau through the UIS Arts and Letters Commission (Ian Ellis Chandler). Entries to be received by Arts and Letters Commission by end January, 2012. They will be considered by the Bureau summer meeting 2012. The Bureau retains the option not to select any entry as suitable. The digital entry will not include lyrics. Lyrics can be attached, and a digital audio version can be presented. Lyrics can be in any of the following languages of the UIS: English, French, German, Italian, Russian or Spanish. Entries must be original and not based on any existing music. Entries should be universal and not in a style generally associated with any country. The style should capable of appealing for many years and not
[Texascavers] Fwd: Calcite Rafts - Compiling information on sites and pictures
Forwarded by Mixon: Begin forwarded message: From: Patricia A. Beddows patri...@earth.northwestern.edu List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: October 21, 2010 6:51:31 PM CDT Subject: Calcite Rafts - Compiling information on sites and pictures Reply-To: Gregory Lehn lehng1...@gmail.com, Patricia Beddows patri...@earth.northwestern.edu Hello to all of you ! I hope you are all doing very well. Life is advancing well here at Northwestern University. My position is hectic since I am wearing the hat of the Assistant Chair, but so far every month has included very rewarding events and accomplishments. Ed and I bought a house this summer so we are certainly settling in more seriously now in the city of Evanston, just north of Chicago. I am sending out a big group email with the goal of picking your collective brains for information on calcite rafts. The reason for this interest is in support of Greg Lehn who is a PhD student I am working with. In our graduate program, the students must develop two research proposals, and for his second project he is examining the formation of calcite rafts, environmental conditions reflected in the physical and chemical characteristics of the material, and the ability to generate high resolution records of environmental change from them. As you know me, you can guess that the test-location is the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico. Would you be able to share: - where (region or specific cave) you have ever seen calcite rafts forming, and if they accumulating in significant quantities. Please describe. - where in your caving and research experience there are NO calcite rafts; - any pictures of calcite rafts you might have! Any scale of picture is welcome from SEM to a cave chamber; - any literature on calcite rafts - particularly older and non- indexed literature that might be hard to find. Greg will be codifying this information onto a map, and your observations on calcite rafts in general will be very helpful. Thank you very much for your time, Trish _ Dr. Patricia A. Beddows Assistant Chair and Lecturer Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences Northwestern University 1850 Campus Drive, Locy Hall – 312 Evanston, IL, 60208-2150 Tel: 847-491-7460 Fax: 847-491-8060 www.earth.northwestern.edu A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
[Texascavers] Jill Orr Party and Earth's Birthday Party Reminder
This is a reminder that we are having a party tonight in honor of Jill Orr who will soon be the dearly departed Jill Orr (she is moving to San Diego). The party is at the Schindel's house at 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio. Phone is 210-479-2151. This is a pot luck affair and all cavers are welcome. We'll have the grill going. In addition, it is Earth's Birthday (the night before October 23, 4004 BC) so dress accordingly. Geary and Sue.
[Texascavers] RE: Jill Orr Party and Earth's Birthday Party Reminder
Geary, Was clothing worn in 4004 BC? Cavers should have no trouble adapting. F From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 2:57 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Jill Orr Party and Earth's Birthday Party Reminder This is a reminder that we are having a party tonight in honor of Jill Orr who will soon be the dearly departed Jill Orr (she is moving to San Diego). The party is at the Schindel's house at 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio. Phone is 210-479-2151. This is a pot luck affair and all cavers are welcome. We'll have the grill going. In addition, it is Earth's Birthday (the night before October 23, 4004 BC) so dress accordingly. Geary and Sue.
[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010
And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread... Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot! Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year? Cheers, Denise
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010
PIRATES of the Caribbean! Strictly rated: ARR! -WaV On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Denise P pepabe...@hotmail.com wrote: And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread... Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot! Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year? Cheers, Denise
RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010
I took quite a few pictures of this spectacle which I hope to post next Monday. It was great and took a lot of work (costumes) to produce. Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:50 AM To: Denise P Cc: TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010 PIRATES of the Caribbean! Strictly rated: ARR! -WaV On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Denise P pepabe...@hotmail.commailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com wrote: And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread... Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot! Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year? Cheers, Denise
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010
It would be great if other Grottos or demented groups would make floats, etc and participate in the DooDah Parade next year. --Ediger On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: I took quite a few pictures of this spectacle which I hope to post next Monday. It was great and took a lot of work (costumes) to produce. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] New Project! Inner Space Caverns
Let it never be said that there aren't enough opportunities to go caving in Texas! Between all of our existing TSA projects (CBSP, Gov't Canyon, Longhorn), the new Devils River Project, TSS' Lake Amistad Project, the DFWG's Spring Creek Cave project, and a load of other less publicized projects out there, just pick a weekend and there will be something to do and somewhere to go. As long as they're announced here and entered into the wonderful TSA Calendar. Which leads us to our next new Project! I began discussions over a month ago, during a sojourn to Longhorn, and after having given a cave talk to a large group of Boy Scout leaders near Salado. The general manager and landowner were very interested in beginning volunteer activities with the TSA at this spectacular cave and, IMHO, one of the best show caves in the Southwest. Here's what they initially would like for us to do: Power Washing the trails - After hours (they close at 5:30) and using their equipment. Rubber boots or tennis shoes recommended. Algae cleanup from formations - Ditto, but if you have resto equipment, you're welcome to bring it. I'm thinking this would be a Friday night and/or a Saturday night project, for as long as it takes or folks are interested, and they also have graciously volunteered to take volunteers on a wild cave tour, either Saturday day or Sunday AM. No dates have been set, as I'm just trying to gauge the interest level. This would be an excellent project for college cavers, due to it's proximity to Austin (and DFW, for that matter). Please contact me offline and I'll put you down. Thanks again and hope to hear from YOU! Mark
Re: [Texascavers] New Project! Inner Space Caverns
Mark, I'm interested, depending on the dates. Innerspace is probably the quickest cave we can get to from DFW. Thanks Charles On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:14 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Let it never be said that there aren't enough opportunities to go caving in Texas! Between all of our existing TSA projects (CBSP, Gov't Canyon, Longhorn), the new Devils River Project, TSS' Lake Amistad Project, the DFWG's Spring Creek Cave project, and a load of other less publicized projects out there, just pick a weekend and there will be something to do and somewhere to go. As long as they're announced here and entered into the wonderful TSA Calendar. Which leads us to our next new Project! I began discussions over a month ago, during a sojourn to Longhorn, and after having given a cave talk to a large group of Boy Scout leaders near Salado. The general manager and landowner were very interested in beginning volunteer activities with the TSA at this spectacular cave and, IMHO, one of the best show caves in the Southwest. Here's what they initially would like for us to do: Power Washing the trails - After hours (they close at 5:30) and using their equipment. Rubber boots or tennis shoes recommended. Algae cleanup from formations - Ditto, but if you have resto equipment, you're welcome to bring it. I'm thinking this would be a Friday night and/or a Saturday night project, for as long as it takes or folks are interested, and they also have graciously volunteered to take volunteers on a wild cave tour, either Saturday day or Sunday AM. No dates have been set, as I'm just trying to gauge the interest level. This would be an excellent project for college cavers, due to it's proximity to Austin (and DFW, for that matter). Please contact me offline and I'll put you down. Thanks again and hope to hear from YOU! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] New Project! Inner Space Caverns
My feelings exactly, Charles! Gotcha down. Thanks, Mark From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:20 AM To: Alman, Mark @ EOS Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New Project! Inner Space Caverns Mark, I'm interested, depending on the dates. Innerspace is probably the quickest cave we can get to from DFW. Thanks Charles On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:14 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Let it never be said that there aren't enough opportunities to go caving in Texas! Between all of our existing TSA projects (CBSP, Gov't Canyon, Longhorn), the new Devils River Project, TSS' Lake Amistad Project, the DFWG's Spring Creek Cave project, and a load of other less publicized projects out there, just pick a weekend and there will be something to do and somewhere to go. As long as they're announced here and entered into the wonderful TSA Calendar. Which leads us to our next new Project! I began discussions over a month ago, during a sojourn to Longhorn, and after having given a cave talk to a large group of Boy Scout leaders near Salado. The general manager and landowner were very interested in beginning volunteer activities with the TSA at this spectacular cave and, IMHO, one of the best show caves in the Southwest. Here's what they initially would like for us to do: Power Washing the trails - After hours (they close at 5:30) and using their equipment. Rubber boots or tennis shoes recommended. Algae cleanup from formations - Ditto, but if you have resto equipment, you're welcome to bring it. I'm thinking this would be a Friday night and/or a Saturday night project, for as long as it takes or folks are interested, and they also have graciously volunteered to take volunteers on a wild cave tour, either Saturday day or Sunday AM. No dates have been set, as I'm just trying to gauge the interest level. This would be an excellent project for college cavers, due to it's proximity to Austin (and DFW, for that matter). Please contact me offline and I'll put you down. Thanks again and hope to hear from YOU! Mark
Re: [Texascavers] Parks Ranch Cave Map Wanted
Charles, Thanks--and I appreciate the detailed how to find it as every time I've been there somebody else has driven. Glad you're going to make it--and as many as you can round up. We might have someone from Bexar, maybe even more than one. Should be able to make a good dent. Jacqui - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith To: J. LaRue Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Parks Ranch Cave Map Wanted Map is attached. I plan to be there on the 13th, hopefully with a few people from the DFW area. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:23 AM, J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net wrote: Charles, I would very much like to have a map of Parks Ranch Cave. When it's convenient. Also, Will you be able to dig with us this time (Nov 13)? After catching me up on Johnny's condition (he's still in Fort Worth I do not know which hospital) Jeryl told me they still want us to come, whether they are back or not. (I wasn't going to ask because it didn't seem like the appropriate time). She gave me a person to contact if we need help getting the bobcat. We will probably not have a winch. I hope this is the trip where we find real cave. I will be there Friday evening probably through Sunday morning. Saturday night is Sonora's Game Dinner and folks may want to go to town in the evening and eat large. Anyway, the map... Jacqui - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith To: mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Parks Ranch Cave Map Wanted Sent off list due to the attachment, if anyone else is interested, let me know offlist please. Charles On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: If someone has a map of Parks Ranch Cave (near CaCa, NM), could you please send it my way or point me to it. If one does indeed exist. Thanks! Mark
Re: [Texascavers] Parks Ranch Cave Map Wanted
Jacqui, I didn't write those, that came from BLM. BTW, the coords for it is +32° 6' 37.74, -104° 24' 23.92 if you wanna plug those into a GPS. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:25 AM, J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.netwrote: Charles, Thanks--and I appreciate the detailed how to find it as every time I've been there somebody else has driven. Glad you're going to make it--and as many as you can round up. We might have someone from Bexar, maybe even more than one. Should be able to make a good dent. Jacqui - Original Message - *From:* Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org *To:* J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:53 AM *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Parks Ranch Cave Map Wanted Map is attached. I plan to be there on the 13th, hopefully with a few people from the DFW area. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:23 AM, J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.netwrote: Charles, I would very much like to have a map of Parks Ranch Cave. When it's convenient. Also, Will you be able to dig with us this time (Nov 13)? After catching me up on Johnny's condition (he's still in Fort Worth I do not know which hospital) Jeryl told me they still want us to come, whether they are back or not. (I wasn't going to ask because it didn't seem like the appropriate time). She gave me a person to contact if we need help getting the bobcat. We will probably not have a winch. I hope this is the trip where we find real cave. I will be there Friday evening probably through Sunday morning. Saturday night is Sonora's Game Dinner and folks may want to go to town in the evening and eat large. Anyway, the map... Jacqui - Original Message - *From:* Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org *To:* mark.al...@l-3com.com *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 1:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Parks Ranch Cave Map Wanted Sent off list due to the attachment, if anyone else is interested, let me know offlist please. Charles On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: If someone has a map of Parks Ranch Cave (near CaCa, NM), could you please send it my way or point me to it. If one does indeed exist. Thanks! Mark
