texascavers Digest 28 Sep 2013 00:34:29 -0000 Issue 1852
Topics (messages 22753 through 22761):
salamander paper
22753 by: Mixon Bill
22756 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
22757 by: Mark Minton
22758 by: Fofo
Caves of Missouri
22754 by: Mixon Bill
NSS Hdqtrs Volunteer Work Schedule for Oct., Nov. and Dec. at Huntsville, AL
22755 by: Preston Forsythe
New tour at Carlsbad Caverns
22759 by: George Veni
photos of Naica Cave of the Crystals
22760 by: Mixon Bill
National Cave and Karst Management Symposium: new deadline!
22761 by: George Veni
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Thanks, Andy, to the link for the salamander paper. A direct route to
the most readable version is http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2148-13-201.pdf
. Use this and you won't have to ferret it out on the publisher's web
site. I'm happy that the paper is open access, and also the unusual
feature at the end where the contributions of the various alleged
authors are briefly declared. That gives at least a chance of deciding
who really were authors and who should just have been in the
acknowledgements, in my view. (If I were editing a journal, I'd insist
that "authors" show me what part, not less than one third, of the
paper they actually wrote. It would be a very thin journal.) -- Mixon
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Thanks, Bill. All authors contributed at least 1/3!
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Andy, to the link for the salamander paper. A direct route to the
> most readable version is
> http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2148-13-201.pdf. Use this and
> you won't have to ferret it out on the publisher's web site. I'm happy that
> the paper is open access, and also the unusual feature at the end where the
> contributions of the various alleged authors are briefly declared. That gives
> at least a chance of deciding who really were authors and who should just
> have been in the acknowledgements, in my view. (If I were editing a journal,
> I'd insist that "authors" show me what part, not less than one third, of the
> paper they actually wrote. It would be a very thin journal.) -- Mixon
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> A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely
> fatal.
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An interesting conundrum, since there were 5 authors on the paper!
Mark
At 07:15 PM 9/25/2013, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote:
Thanks, Bill. All authors contributed at least 1/3!
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Andy, to the link for the salamander paper. A direct
route to the most readable version is
http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2148-13-201.pdf. Use
this and you won't have to ferret it out on the publisher's web
site. I'm happy that the paper is open access, and also the unusual
feature at the end where the contributions of the various alleged
authors are briefly declared. That gives at least a chance of
deciding who really were authors and who should just have been in
the acknowledgements, in my view. (If I were editing a journal, I'd
insist that "authors" show me what part, not less than one third,
of the paper they actually wrote. It would be a very thin journal.) -- Mixon
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That's how they roll! They always put more than 100%
- Fofo
On 25/09/2013, at 17:59, Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> wrote:
> An interesting conundrum, since there were 5 authors on the paper!
>
> Mark
>
> At 07:15 PM 9/25/2013, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote:
>> Thanks, Bill. All authors contributed at least 1/3!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks, Andy, to the link for the salamander paper. A direct route to the
>> > most readable version is
>> > http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2148-13-201.pdf. Use this
>> > and you won't have to ferret it out on the publisher's web site. I'm happy
>> > that the paper is open access, and also the unusual feature at the end
>> > where the contributions of the various alleged authors are briefly
>> > declared. That gives at least a chance of deciding who really were authors
>> > and who should just have been in the acknowledgements, in my view. (If I
>> > were editing a journal, I'd insist that "authors" show me what part, not
>> > less than one third, of the paper they actually wrote. It would be a very
>> > thin journal.) -- Mixon
>
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I see that there is a softbound 2012 reprint of Caves of Missouri.
ISBN 978-0988668508. $26.52 from Amazon, plus sales tax (alas), but
free shipping. The original 1956 hardbound seems to go for from $50 to
$180 on the web. Given the ease of searching on the web, how such a
wide range of prices can be supported is unclear to me. I suppose used-
book stores still count mostly on walk-in business. -- Mixon
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Current Schedule per Maureen Handler is:
Oct 5-6
Oct 19-20
Nov 2-3
Nov 16-17
Nov 23-24 tentative
Dec 7-8
Dec 21-22 tentative
Dec 26 - 31
Shari and I plan on working all of the dates in Nov. and early Dec.
Contact Maureen Handler for more info.
Cavingly,
Preston in outer Browder, KY
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I'm forwarding this from the National Park Service...
Sign Language Interpreters Join Park Rangers for Special Tour
CARLSBAD - American Sign Language interpreters will join park rangers in
offering a tour of beautiful King's Palace at Carlsbad Caverns National Park on
Sunday, Oct. 6, 2013 from 1 p.m. to 2:30 p.m. English and Spanish interpreters
will be available to park visitors during the tour. This is a unique
opportunity for anyone who has a hearing loss and communicates by signing.
General admission fee for the park is $10 for adults, ages 16 and older, and
children 15 and younger are free. There is an additional $8 fee for the special
King's Palace tour. Senior and Access pass holders receive a half-price
discount for the King's Palace tour. Passes may be obtained at the ticket
office inside the park.
Reservations are required. Visitors should make arrangements online at
www.recreation.gov or by phone at 1-877-444-6777 or 1-877-833-6777 (TDD). On
the day of the tour, visitors must pick up their reserved tickets by 12:30 p.m.
at the ticket counter inside the park's visitor center.
For more information about this event, contact Amanda Carrigan Grissom,
Carlsbad Caverns' accessibility coordinator at 575-785-3120 or email
amanda_carrigan-gris...@nps.gov.
For general cave information (hours, cave tours, and other activities), call
575-785-2232 or visit www.nps.gov/cave<http://www.nps.gov/cave>.
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George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
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There are a couple of PowerPoint file (.ppt) on the Cave of the
Crystals in the mine at Naica, Chihuahua, at
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/27864331/587372833/name/Naica_%2Epps
and
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/27864331/1640165493/name/NaicaCaverndeCristal%2Epps
The text is is Spanish. The photos are not particularly well
presented. -- Mixon
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Dear Friends,
It is that time in preparing for a conference where I need to announce a
deadline. Four excellent workshops and field trips are planned for the National
Cave and Karst Management Symposium (NCKMS), which will be held at NCKRI
Headquarters in Carlsbad, New Mexico, 4-8 November 2013. I believe this is best
array of workshops and trips offered to date!
For logistical and planning needs, if you want to join any of the workshops
(the field trips are included in the price of registration) please register no
later than Monday, 7 October 2013. You are certainly welcome to register after
that date, but we must finalize buses and other reservations and so there may
not be space in some workshops and trips after the 7th.
So register early, register now. Visit http://nckri.org/nckms2013!
Also, the final schedule with the 44 talks (covering eight countries!) and
other events was just made final this afternoon. It should be posted on the
website next week. I'll send you a message when it is available.
This 20th NCKMS is brought to you by the combined efforts of NCKRI, the Bureau
of Land Management, National Park Service, and the US Forest Service, with the
support of many generous sponsors.
Please share this message with anyone you think may be interested.
Thank you,
George
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George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>
www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org>
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