[Texascavers] Greater Houston Grotto meeting tonight!

2013-10-15 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Hello Houston cavers!

Just wanted to remind everyone that GHG does have a meeting tonight (and yes, I 
am back in town and am reassuming my duties as chairwoman so I will be leading 
the meeting, yay!) The meeting will focus on a couple of different things. The 
first thing is, we will set a caving schedule for the winter months. We 
discussed a deep/punkin trip in November and a trip to Jester Cave in Oklahoma 
in January or Feb. but have not solidified dates for those trips. We will also 
show a short educational video on White-nose syndrome, a disease affecting 
bats, and review decon procedures since GHG is starting to travel a bit more to 
go caving. And last but not least, anyone with questions about TCR should 
attend tonight and ask away! I encourage everyone to try and attend tonight's 
meeting. I look forward to seeing all of you again!

Mallory Mayeux
GHG President

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Re: [Texascavers] Greater Houston Grotto meeting tonight!

2013-10-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
It is really good to see your name pop back up on the mailing list!

I hope you are doing well.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Houston cavers!

 Just wanted to remind everyone that GHG does have a meeting tonight (and
 yes, I am back in town and am reassuming my duties as chairwoman so I will
 be leading the meeting, yay!) The meeting will focus on a couple of
 different things. The first thing is, we will set a caving schedule for the
 winter months. We discussed a deep/punkin trip in November and a trip to
 Jester Cave in Oklahoma in January or Feb. but have not solidified dates
 for those trips. We will also show a short educational video on White-nose
 syndrome, a disease affecting bats, and review decon procedures since GHG
 is starting to travel a bit more to go caving. And last but not least,
 anyone with questions about TCR should attend tonight and ask away! I
 encourage everyone to try and attend tonight's meeting. I look forward to
 seeing all of you again!

 Mallory Mayeux
 GHG President

 Sent from my iPhone



Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results

2013-10-15 Thread caverarch
So do I!


Roger Moore



-Original Message-
From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
To: Ann Scott mayaca...@mail.utexas.edu; ellie watson ellie.tho...@gmail.com
Cc: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 11:35 pm
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results


I demand a recount!

;-)

-Stefan

From: Ann Scott [mayaca...@mail.utexas.edu]
Sent: 14 October 2013 23:24
To: ellie watson
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results

Thank you for the 87 votes of confidence!!
I look forward to serving the TSA!!
Ann


On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:13 AM, ellie watson ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

 President # Votes
 Kurt Menking  87
 Don Arburn (write-in) 2
 Jim Kennedy (write-in)1


 Vice-President# Votes
 Roger Moore   89
 Mark Gee (write-in)   1


 Treasurer # Votes
 Anne Scott87


 Secretary # Votes
 Heather Tucek 90


 On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 I ditto that request.

 Thanks!
 julia

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com
 To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com
 Cc: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com; ellie.thoene ellie.tho...@gmail.com; 
texas cavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21 pm
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results

 I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including 
write-ins, invalid votes, etc.

 Jim

 Mobile email from my iPhone

 On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one 
candidate for each office?

 CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
 From: donarb...@mac.com
 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
 To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results

 Congratulations!!

 Sent cellularly.
 -Don

 On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

 TSA Members,

 TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce 
the following winners:

 Chairman- Kurt Menking
 Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
 Secretary -Heather Tucek
 Treasurer- Anne Scott

 Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014.

 We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email 
addresses on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!




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Re: [Texascavers] European version of Satellite Imagery viewer (Google Earth)

2013-10-15 Thread Jesse Walker
I found the following article after reading Roger's link:

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/Caves/Astronauts_exploring_the_depths



Jesse


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, caverarch cavera...@aol.com wrote:

 Probably most useful for international expeditions.

  http://miravi.eo.esa.int/en/

 Roger G. Moore



[Texascavers] ride needed from SA airport to TCR on Thursday

2013-10-15 Thread Jim Kennedy
San Antonio cavers, is anyone heading out to Paradise Canyon on Thursday
around 7 pm? Danger (of Highline Ropes fame) flies in to SAT at that time
and needs picked up from the airport and a ride out to TCR. Please let me
know and I will pass the word along to him. Thanks!

Crash

512-663-2287



[Texascavers] Directions to TCR, October 17-20 @ Paradise Canyon

2013-10-15 Thread ellie watson
Texas Cavers,


TCR is upon us! Follow the signs to Paradise Canyon, 2220 County Road 2615,
Rio Medina, TX 78066


Directions:
http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TCR/images/TCR%202013_Paradise%20Canyon%20Directions_Look%20for%20Signs.jpg
.


TCR page:  http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TCR/index.html

Please dont hesitate to ask me any questions,

Ellie


[Texascavers] Need coolers for transporting food to TCR...

2013-10-15 Thread Stefan Creaser
I really need to borrow some coolers to take food to TCR. I swear I put a bunch 
of the cube ones in the cooks trailer but they seem to have gone AWOL.

Let me know, or bring large ones, to Posse tomorrow if you can please! Msg me 
first if you like.

Cheers,
Stefan

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[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting October 16th

2013-10-15 Thread Andrea Croskrey
Howdy Texas Cavers!

Join us at the UT Grotto meeting this Wednesday, October 16th, to hear
about two great caving trips. Saj Zappitello will share tales from pre-ICS
caving in Slovenia, bouncing deep pits in the karst mecca for
hydrogeologists, with contributions from Matt Zappitello; and Ellie Watson
and Galen Falgout will have photos and stories from their outing to
Arkansas. See you there!

I'd also like to remind people that the room location for the UT Grotto
meetings has changed.  We will now be in *Burdine 134*. Follow this link to
a map of where the building is located on the University of Texas campus:
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/bur.html

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials.  This area is the best place to park and meet folks
walking over to the meeting.  Then after the official meeting, we continue
with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall
tales of caving at Posse East.  www.posse-east.com

Cavingly,
Andrea Croskrey
UT Grotto Vice Chair


texascavers Digest 16 Oct 2013 02:14:56 -0000 Issue 1864

2013-10-15 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 16 Oct 2013 02:14:56 - Issue 1864

Topics (messages 22874 through 22893):

From the TCC - Mike Walsh
22874 by: Charles Goldsmith

Government Canyon Karst Project
22875 by: Marvin and Lisa

TCR firewood volunteers
22876 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com
22879 by: Nancy Weaver
22880 by: Geary Schindel
22884 by: Don Arburn

Re: TSA Election Results
22877 by: Jim Kennedy
22878 by: Julia Germany
22882 by: ellie watson
22885 by: Mimi Jasek
22886 by: Ann Scott
22887 by: Stefan Creaser
22890 by: caverarch

Re: 65th Birthday party for Bill Steele at the Texas Caver's Reunion next Friday
22881 by: Diana Tomchick

TSA election
22883 by: Mixon Bill

UT Grotto Meeting October 16th
22888 by: Andrea Croskrey

Greater Houston Grotto meeting tonight!
22889 by: Mallory Mayeux

European version of Satellite Imagery viewer (Google Earth)
22891 by: caverarch
22892 by: Jesse Walker

October CBSP Project Trip Report
22893 by: Kris Pena

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---BeginMessage---
Once Last Note

As some of you may have heard, I have been experiencing a number of
personal problems for almost a year. I do not choose to involve the Texas
Caving Community with these problems.

 For that reason, I am making this announcement.

 I will be “going underground” and I will not send out any e-mails to
cavers concerning myself, Mike Walsh or the Texas Cave Conservancy.

Fake addresses are being used to create problems, please disregard them. I
will only communicate on the telephone at 512-249-2283. Please feel free to
give me a call. Thank you for your consideration.

Mike Walsh
---End Message---
---BeginMessage---
The November Government Canyon Karst Project will not be held on the first
weekend of the month as is usual. Instead the project date will be Sunday,
Nov. 10. This will be a Sunday only project. Camping is available for
Saturday and Sunday night. Contact me to arrange that, or with any other
project-related questions.
 
We meet at 9:00 at the Volunteer/Research Station. After entering the park
at the main gate, take the first right. Go through the closed gate (make
sure to close it again behind you) and proceed approximately 1 mile to the
VRS. We usually meet in the parking lot to the right.
 
Marvin Miller
---End Message---
---BeginMessage---
Just talked to Don Arburn. He just talked to the owner of P, Canyon, and he 
reports that there is plenty of dead cedar and oak, on the hillside above the 
road, that can be cut for TCR use. The owner would prefer that we burn his wood 
rather than bring in suspect oak. I am looking for volunteers to cut wood 
Thursday or Friday. Cutting after dark Friday or anytime Saturday makes too 
much noise. Having an open bed pickup would be helpful, as I would prefer to 
keep mine with me while I am working. It's a big job as we need wood for the 
hot tub, the sauna, the fire there, and a main campfire. I will have two saws 
available as soon as I get there on Thursday. Let me know if you can help. Pete 
512-897-9235
---End Message---
---BeginMessage---
what does anyone hear about water levels?  USGS site is down of course, tho the 
House gym is fully up and functional.---End Message---
---BeginMessage---
The USGS stream gauges are up and running but they are not being calibrated. 
However, they should be pretty close unless there are issues with individual 
gauges.

We got good rains across the region ranging from 10 or more inches north 
(Austin area) and south (Crystal Springs) of San Antonio but Medina County and 
Bexar counties only received from one to 1.5 inches of rain.

Geary

 
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From: Nancy Weaver [mailto:nan...@prismnet.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:38 AM
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR firewood volunteers

what does anyone hear about water levels?  USGS site is down of course, tho the 
House gym is fully up and functional.
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They won't let any water into the lower dam area until Medina is 1/3 full. The 
riverbed is mostly dry, with a couple of ponds between the dam and the bridge 
at the ends of the park.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

 On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org 
 wrote:
 
 The USGS stream gauges are up and running but 

[Texascavers] October CBSP Project Trip Report

2013-10-15 Thread Kris Pena
Project Date: October 11-13, 2013


VOLUNTEERS: Lori Karker, William Quast, Anthony Garot, Yazmin Avila, Jim
Kennedy, Gerry Geletzke, Vivian Loftin, Lydia Hernandez, Aubri Jenson,
Nicole Goodman,  Justin Shaw, Galen Falgout, Ellie Watson, Davey Siddors,
Heather Tucek, David Moore, Diana Tomchick, Jason Cook, Jessica Smith,
Kasey Irons, Jessica Aguilar, Neil Buckman

HOURS: 102 hours drive + 121 volunteer hours

SUMMARY:

Jessica, Neil and Gerry surveyed SAB 314 (Spider Web Cave) and reported
that a VERY small, experienced caver should return and attempt to push the
lead. They also visited SAB 272 (Hard Wedge Cave), SAB 797 (LIVC01 Karst
Feature) which could use some additional digging, and SAB 798.  They were
unable to locate SAB 350.

Lydia, David, and Kasey’s team and Jessica, Vivian, and Nicole’s team
crossed the river in search of unknown features.  Together they found
several promising features that could use some digging and two caves were
tentatively named (Rack Cave) and (Minor Mishap Cave).

Justin, Galen, Ellie and Diana set out to continue the dig on SAB 199
(Don’t Fit Pit) and SAB 718 (Two Burnt Ropes Cave).  They were unable to
locate (Don’t Fit Pit). They did find and begin digging on (Two Burnt Ropes
Cave), only to find that the cave continues as a tiny crack that would
require endless digging.

Will, Laura, Aubri, and Lori completed a survey of SAB 599 (Cody’s Well)
and explored SAB 769 (Deep Dream Cave). A subsequent trip is required to
complete that survey.

Heather and David explored an area labeled “new karst area” and confirmed
that it requires a larger karst walking team. They successfully located SAB
338 and tentatively named it (Fred’s  Cave), but they were unable to survey
it as it requires additional digging. They were also able to locate and
describe (French Press Karst Feature) and to survey SAB 245 (Slumps Below
Cave).

Caver Camp was full of gnats, making sitting and eating difficult.
 Saturday night had thunderstorms on the way.  The combination of these
factors led some to leave Saturday night while others embraced them and had
a great night watching the lightning roll in.

FULL TRIP REPORTS:

Team 1:

Jessica, Neil, Gerry

Time: 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. total hours: 18

Data: Pouch #4

Objectives: to survey caves and describe karst features. (SAB 314, SAB272,
SAB273, SAB797, SAB798, SAB350)

Report: SAB 314 (Spiderweb Cave): survey (see pack number 4). A more
experienced and very small experienced caver should retry. If you head
toward the fence in the cave you have to travel on your side on the ground.
A helmet barely fits through. Ahead you can see a tiny room with a column
and stalactite formations. Beyond that, another tight crawl space exists.
This one is horizontally formed. It looks to be 10 feet long and beyond
that is unknown.

SAB 272 (Hard Wedge Cave): the tight fissure entrance dropped about 12 feet
to the first ledge. The entire drop is about 20 feet. This cave is
extremely narrow. Could not see beyond.

SAB 797 (LIVC01 karst feature): the entrance was covered in overgrown
shrubbery. Could not get around it or see inside.

SAB 273 (coon scat cave): description given from 7/8/95 is correct except
the entrance dropped about 10 feet down.

SAB 798 (karst feature): 4 feet deep and very narrow. No way to fit beyond.

SAB 350 (SABK001): could not locate.

Next tasks: send screening, experienced cavers to investigate the type
passage of spiderweb cave.

Team 2:

Lydia, David, Kasey

Time 10:00 - 18:00. Total hours 24.

Data: GPS Garman Ellie Watson

Objectives: Ridge walk across the east side of the river and look for karst.

Report: we ran across the river after walking down the trail to Gorman from
the conference center. We hiked along the East Park boundary fence and
fanned out looking for karst. We finally found something at the end of the
hike 3.6 km from our start point (048). Karst feature was blowing air,
needs modification (HEB). Then we swam in the river we cross and helped a
scout leader back to her camp and went on a trip to Spicewood Springs. Then
back to camp for food and fun.

Team 3:

Jessica, Vivian, Nicole

Time 10:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Total hours 21.

Data: GPS number #1

Objectives: search for new caves.

Report: This was my first time out. We crossed the river followed the fence
boundary until the turn and split into two groups. We came across one hole
that looked promising then found a cave that we named rack cave. I had
found a deer antler, so we wanted to name it something along those lines.
We were able to climb in and saw a couple of passage ways. But they were
too tight to continue too far.

We found another promising sinkhole near here. Continued walking the rim,
then decided to meet our other group. Then we ran out of water, so decided
to head back. I got a little lost! Then we came across another large cave
Vivian called this porcupine Cave because she thought one lived in it. We
were getting tired at this point so continued back, removed 

Re: [Texascavers] October CBSP Project Trip Report

2013-10-15 Thread Aimee Beveridge
Great report, Kris! 

 On Oct 15, 2013, at 21:14, Kris Pena kapkanga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Project Date: October 11-13, 2013
 
 VOLUNTEERS: Lori Karker, William Quast, Anthony Garot, Yazmin Avila, Jim 
 Kennedy, Gerry Geletzke, Vivian Loftin, Lydia Hernandez, Aubri Jenson, Nicole 
 Goodman,  Justin Shaw, Galen Falgout, Ellie Watson, Davey Siddors, Heather 
 Tucek, David Moore, Diana Tomchick, Jason Cook, Jessica Smith, Kasey Irons, 
 Jessica Aguilar, Neil Buckman
 
 HOURS: 102 hours drive + 121 volunteer hours
 
 SUMMARY:
 Jessica, Neil and Gerry surveyed SAB 314 (Spider Web Cave) and reported that 
 a VERY small, experienced caver should return and attempt to push the lead. 
 They also visited SAB 272 (Hard Wedge Cave), SAB 797 (LIVC01 Karst Feature) 
 which could use some additional digging, and SAB 798.  They were unable to 
 locate SAB 350.
 
 Lydia, David, and Kasey’s team and Jessica, Vivian, and Nicole’s team crossed 
 the river in search of unknown features.  Together they found several 
 promising features that could use some digging and two caves were tentatively 
 named (Rack Cave) and (Minor Mishap Cave).
 
 Justin, Galen, Ellie and Diana set out to continue the dig on SAB 199 (Don’t 
 Fit Pit) and SAB 718 (Two Burnt Ropes Cave).  They were unable to locate 
 (Don’t Fit Pit). They did find and begin digging on (Two Burnt Ropes Cave), 
 only to find that the cave continues as a tiny crack that would require 
 endless digging.
 
 Will, Laura, Aubri, and Lori completed a survey of SAB 599 (Cody’s Well) and 
 explored SAB 769 (Deep Dream Cave). A subsequent trip is required to complete 
 that survey.
 
 Heather and David explored an area labeled “new karst area” and confirmed 
 that it requires a larger karst walking team. They successfully located SAB 
 338 and tentatively named it (Fred’s  Cave), but they were unable to survey 
 it as it requires additional digging. They were also able to locate and 
 describe (French Press Karst Feature) and to survey SAB 245 (Slumps Below 
 Cave).
 
 Caver Camp was full of gnats, making sitting and eating difficult.  Saturday 
 night had thunderstorms on the way.  The combination of these factors led 
 some to leave Saturday night while others embraced them and had a great night 
 watching the lightning roll in.
 
 FULL TRIP REPORTS:
 
 Team 1:
 Jessica, Neil, Gerry
 Time: 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. total hours: 18
 Data: Pouch #4
 Objectives: to survey caves and describe karst features. (SAB 314, SAB272, 
 SAB273, SAB797, SAB798, SAB350)
 Report: SAB 314 (Spiderweb Cave): survey (see pack number 4). A more 
 experienced and very small experienced caver should retry. If you head toward 
 the fence in the cave you have to travel on your side on the ground. A helmet 
 barely fits through. Ahead you can see a tiny room with a column and 
 stalactite formations. Beyond that, another tight crawl space exists. This 
 one is horizontally formed. It looks to be 10 feet long and beyond that is 
 unknown.
 SAB 272 (Hard Wedge Cave): the tight fissure entrance dropped about 12 feet 
 to the first ledge. The entire drop is about 20 feet. This cave is extremely 
 narrow. Could not see beyond.
 SAB 797 (LIVC01 karst feature): the entrance was covered in overgrown 
 shrubbery. Could not get around it or see inside.
 SAB 273 (coon scat cave): description given from 7/8/95 is correct except the 
 entrance dropped about 10 feet down.
 SAB 798 (karst feature): 4 feet deep and very narrow. No way to fit beyond.
 SAB 350 (SABK001): could not locate.
 Next tasks: send screening, experienced cavers to investigate the type 
 passage of spiderweb cave.
 
 Team 2:
 Lydia, David, Kasey
 Time 10:00 - 18:00. Total hours 24.
 Data: GPS Garman Ellie Watson 
 Objectives: Ridge walk across the east side of the river and look for karst.
 Report: we ran across the river after walking down the trail to Gorman from 
 the conference center. We hiked along the East Park boundary fence and fanned 
 out looking for karst. We finally found something at the end of the hike 3.6 
 km from our start point (048). Karst feature was blowing air, needs 
 modification (HEB). Then we swam in the river we cross and helped a scout 
 leader back to her camp and went on a trip to Spicewood Springs. Then back to 
 camp for food and fun.
 
 Team 3:
 Jessica, Vivian, Nicole
 Time 10:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Total hours 21.
 Data: GPS number #1
 Objectives: search for new caves. 
 Report: This was my first time out. We crossed the river followed the fence 
 boundary until the turn and split into two groups. We came across one hole 
 that looked promising then found a cave that we named rack cave. I had 
 found a deer antler, so we wanted to name it something along those lines. We 
 were able to climb in and saw a couple of passage ways. But they were too 
 tight to continue too far.
 We found another promising sinkhole near here. Continued walking the rim, 
 then decided to meet our other group. Then we ran out of water, so