[Texascavers] Paradise Canyon caving trip

2013-11-12 Thread Kurt L. Menking
The Paradise Canyon trip is still on for the weekend of Nov 22-24.  The good 
news is,  I have plenty of folks signed up to help, but the bad news is I need 
to say we now have enough.  If you haven't signed up yet I can put you on a 
waiting list.  If you have said you were coming and need to cancel please let 
me know so I can notify the next person on waiting list.

I'll send those who are on the list an email soon with more details.

Kurt




[DFWgrotto] Fwd: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon caving trip

2013-11-12 Thread Diana Tomchick


From: Kurt L. Menking kmenk...@bcad.orgmailto:kmenk...@bcad.org
Subject: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon caving trip
Date: November 12, 2013 11:03:49 AM CST
To: CaveTex texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com

The Paradise Canyon trip is still on for the weekend of Nov 22-24.  The good 
news is,  I have plenty of folks signed up to help, but the bad news is I need 
to say we now have enough.  If you haven’t signed up yet I can put you on a 
waiting list.  If you have said you were coming and need to cancel please let 
me know so I can notify the next person on waiting list.

I’ll send those who are on the list an email soon with more details.

Kurt






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texascavers Digest 12 Nov 2013 22:11:17 -0000 Issue 1883

2013-11-12 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 12 Nov 2013 22:11:17 - Issue 1883

Topics (messages 23037 through 23041):

TSS Work Session
23037 by: Ron Ralph

Brief Update on Work on the New NSS Property and Office at Huntsville
23038 by: Preston Forsythe

Google+ for cavers
23039 by: David

Paradise Canyon caving trip
23040 by: Kurt L. Menking

Lost Oasis Preserve Clean-up this Sunday
23041 by: ryan monjaras

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Cavers,



Our next scheduled second Wednesday work session of the Texas Speleological 
Survey will be this Wednesday, November 13th, at the JJ Pickle Research Center. 
We will be looking through the files for various cave locations in Texas, 
inventorying the Chuck Stuehm collection and working on the museum.  Come by 
and help search the files. If you have a desire to search for your own data, 
the files and unpublished maps will be made available.  Both publication sales 
and the library will be open.



Use the front entrance on Burnet Road north of highway 183. The door will be 
open at 5:00 p.m. and stay open till we adjourn. Remember it is best to arrive 
before 6:00 pm and drinks are on me. Parking permits are only necessary during 
the day and evenings are free, so don’t worry about parking tickets.



If you have questions, please contact me at ronra...@austin.rr.com or call my 
cell. I will be happy to send you a link to the map of the Campus if you need 
directions.



Ron Ralph

Cell: 797-3817
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Good Morning Cavers in Texas and Other Places--


Work on the new NSS property at Huntsville, AL is progressing with volunteer 
work every weekend. Here is an example. The Birmingham Grotto the past two 
weekends installed a new green enviro metal roof on the outdoor pavillion. This 
pavillion will no doubt receive a lot of use at many future caving events 
including SERA and the NSS National Convention in 2014. The BG purchased all of 
the roofing material ($3,000 plus) and supplied all of the labor (around 18 
volunteers the first weekend and 14 volunteers the second weekend). 

That is an example of what your grotto could do! Hope you can participate.

This coming weekend a new self-leveling floor will be poured for the new 
library and archieves room, approx. 50 ft. x 120 ft. Very expensive filing 
cabinets, accordian style sometimes seen in medical offices, have been 
purchased at a fraction of the new cost. This filing-bookshelf system requires 
a level floor. I bet volunteers already have over 125 man hours of prep time of 
work in that new library. 

Maureen Handler is the volunteer coordinator. Please contact Maureen if you or 
your grotto want to contribute.

Handler, Maureen
tnshot...@earthlink.net

I know it is a long drive from Texas, and other places, to Huntsville, Alabama, 
but some work sessions at Huntsville are several days long making the time and 
distance a very worthwhile satisfying trip.


Cavingly,


Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY only 4 hours, one way, from Huntsville.---End Message---
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Please ignore this if you hate Google.

Google+ now lets users have a custom URL.

Mine is:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DavidLocklearofTexas/about


If a caver is managing a page for a caving organization, he or she can
now add a new type of manager.This person has the power
to help manage the post on the the page, but is not allowed to
make changes to the page.That is a good idea, and further increases
its lead over Facebook's version in functionality.

I have not had time this year to follow all the new quirks of Google+.

Google does not seem to be giving up on the idea, so there is maybe
still hope for it yet.   I am content to use both Facebook and Google+,
but I do not think most people are willing to do that.   I am clueless
about the other social things going on on the web, meaning whatever
the young people are supposedly doing.   I can't find any use for
Twitter, and haven't had time to explore the others.

My 9 year old daughter loves her Android tablet, so my guess is that
all that stuff will make sense to her in the very near future.I think I
had to create a Google account for her so that she could access all
the apps and YouTube stuff.   I have not had a chance to see if that
was such a good idea.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106745323215963190758/115224409657532359034/about

Please email me privately, if you have any sound advice on that
subject.

David Locklear
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The Paradise Canyon trip is still on for the weekend of Nov 22-24.  The good 
news is,  I have plenty of folks signed up to help, but the bad 

[SWR] Carlsbad Cavern: old lead goes to big new room in Spirit World

2013-11-12 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
  Appended below is interesting correspondence with Derek Bristol.

--Donald

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From: Derek Bristol derekbris...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:22:31 -0700
To: DONALD G. DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net
Subject: Re: Spirit World Discovery

I can't say I noticed any airflow, but the passages were large, and I'm 
not very good at detecting airflow. I'm pretty confident this is the same 
lead you talked about - Dilation Theory at work again!

It's fine to talk about it. I bumped into Jim Goodbar the day after the 
climb and gave him the story.

We'll be going back to continue the work, but unfortunately schedules have 
delayed this until February.

Derek

 On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:08 PM, DONALD G. DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net wrote:
 
 Derek Bristol derekbris...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Donald, I hope you're well. I figured you might be interested to hear 
 the news since you specifically asked me about the one remaining lead up 
 in Spirit World. I was down at Carlsbad Caverns a couple of weeks ago and 
 got permission to go up to do the climb up to the ledge that was ~150' 
 from the too tight constriction where Spirit World ends. It didn't look 
 very promising to me, but the climb didn't appear to be all that 
 difficult. Shawn Thomas belayed, and I led up the 20' wall using a rope 
 trick, one bolt, and a little free climbing at the top. Once up on the 
 ledge, we found a flowstone and popcorn floored passage leading away to 
 the SW. This flowstone is the source of the nice drapery hanging off the 
 south end of the ledge. This passage only goes about 80' where it 
 intersects a large room. We ended the survey here but took some Disto 
 readings that show the room to be roughly 100' long and wide, and 
 averaging 20' high. On the far end of the room is a flowstone cascade 
 coming out of a dome that is another good lead. The flowstone here is 
 covered in bat bones. There may be other leads out of the room, but we 
 resisted the urge to scoop. We made the climb on Halloween eve, which 
 seems appropriate for Spirit World, and have named the room Halloween 
 Hall.
 
 Derek Bristol
 
How very interesting!  I'm pretty sure that has to be the lead I 
 thought years ago was worth taking a ladder up to check.  Looks as if I 
 was right.  Did there seem to be any airflow in the passage?  Is it OK to 
 tell others about this?  I presume there are plans for continuing survey?
 
--Donald

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