texascavers Digest 17 Nov 2013 15:30:46 -0000 Issue 1885
texascavers Digest 17 Nov 2013 15:30:46 - Issue 1885 Topics (messages 23051 through 23055): A cave photo 23051 by: David Backwoods Outdoor Store in Austin and Dallas 23052 by: Preston Forsythe September Texas Caver 23053 by: Jill Orr internet related 23054 by: David Re: Never go to Mexico- Kurt Caselli killed in Baja 1000 23055 by: Jon Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I do not know anything about Instagram, but here is a new photo posted there taken by a well known cave photographer. http://instagram.com/p/gn3p8-RbaK/ ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- A note on this Backwoods gear store. While in Boulder, Colorado in August I made my first stop at Neptune Mountaineering. My opinion is that Neptune is the best outdoor gear store in the country. Formerly owned by Gary Neptune, who has climbed Everest and more. Top of the line gear! I was surprised to see that this company, Backwoods, had purchased Neptune. Backwoods has maintained Neptune almost the same as it was including the museum items on the walls from famous climbs around the world. Gary still owns those items. I had never heard of Backwoods, showing how little time I have been in Texas in recent years. But, Backwoods is a big outfit, 8 stores in TX, OK, Neb. and KS. Other than a grocery store, a gear store is about the only store I like to shop in my limited world. So how does the Austin Backwoods compare to say the REI? This is just a general gear question and really not meant to favor one vendor over the other as I shop and buy something from almost all of them, but, hey, Neptune is the top of the heap, and Backwoods kept the name Neptune Mountaineering on their new Boulder store. Cavingly, Preston in Outer Browder, KY a place not known for it's gear stores other than my basement. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Texas Cavers: The Caver is extremely late this issue due to many circumstances that came up, both personal and printer related. The printer shorted us about 25 issues that should have been labeled, and getting the replacements took a couple of weeks. An attempt to pass the labeled issues at the TCR didn't happen, and I'm working on sorting the labeling mess I'm left with. Thank you for your understanding and patience. In the mean time - the December issue needs articles. Jill ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- If you watch the video in the link below, you will see a caver trying to make a living putting caves on the internet so that anyone in the world can take a virtual tour of that cave from the comfort of their home. http://www.boston.com/business/2013/11/13/bringing-caving-the-masses/OmHRp3pkmmfGhXm2S5g1YO/story.html ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- FYI ... http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/Off-road/2013/November/nov1613-kurt-caselli KTM rider Kurt Caselli has lost his life while competing in the famous Baja 1000 race through Mexico's Baja California peninsula, after sustaining serious injuries while leading the 883 mile long race. Early and unconfirmed reports indicate that the thirty year old hit a manmade booby trap at the 796-mile marker of the course. Sabotage to the rugged and remote off road course is common by spectators, who dig jumps and obstacles to provide more exciting viewing. The widely liked American made his debut in the Dakar Rally last year, impressing from the off by winning two stages of the tough SouthAmerican race in his rookie year to finish 31st overall. Caselli had said in the press conference after qualifying that winning the Baja was one of his big remaining goals. Baja has always been on my list. A win (by KTM) is something that's not just myself but a lot of other people have wanted to see it for a long time, and I will be very happy if I can be a part of that. I'm not trying to take any glory. I just want to be able to say that I was part of a winning team. Motorcycle News sends our deepest condolences to Kurt's family and friends. He will be sorely missed. ---End Message---
[SWR] Bringing caving to the masses
I saw this link in the Texas Cavers mailing list by David Locklear: http://tinyurl.com/o552nnz I wonder what hardware and software he uses...but searching online, I found these 4 articles: http://tinyurl.com/pqcxf2k http://tinyurl.com/p366b4d http://tinyurl.com/oav9ges http://tinyurl.com/oj7j9z4 Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Bringing caving to the masses
Caver Quest is still better (and cheaper)! On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: I saw this link in the Texas Cavers mailing list by David Locklear: http://tinyurl.com/o552nnz I wonder what hardware and software he uses...but searching online, I found these 4 articles: http://tinyurl.com/pqcxf2k http://tinyurl.com/p366b4d http://tinyurl.com/oav9ges http://tinyurl.com/oj7j9z4 Lee Skinner Steve Peerman Project Director, Fort Stanton Cave Study Project fscsp.direc...@gmail.com ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Bringing caving to the masses
I can answer a lot about this as I know Luke Farrer personally and worked with him earlier this year. Almost exactly a year ago, I got a phone call from him as he had been given my name as someone doing cave photography by a mutual acquaintance. I was going to be at Emily Davis's house (Schoharie, NY) in early December for the weekend and we agreed to meet there and go over to Howe Caverns, a commercial cave, to view it in terms of his idea to do LiDAR mapping with a photo overlay. I had had some experience with this a couple of years ago at Carlsbad Caverns NP. We agreed to meet back up again for a two day shoot in Howe in early January which we accomplished. The technical issues of overlaying the photo images onto the laser generated point cloud were difficult, but he has achieved that remarkably well. He invested a considerable amount of personal funds into buying his own laser mapping device since our shoot. At this time, his biggest project is mapping Claustral Canyon in Australia, for which he decided to raise funds through Kickstarter, an online website that you can make pledge donations to if the financial goals are reached (they were). Some of you may have received a letter from me about that. In any case, what he's doing is pretty incredible. Caver Quest may we be better and cheaper, but Luke's success at what he's doing is pretty spectacular as well. If he pursues this project in caves, they are far more likely to be done in commercialized caves than in any wild caves. When working with him, I thoroughly vetted his intentions and views on conservation, particularly on cave conservation. His head is certainly in the right place for what he's doing, so will be no threat to cave conservation. He's a very nice guy and will do the right thing. I don't know if I will work with him in future cave endeavors, but if I do, I will certainly keep a hawk's eye on the intent and finished product to be sure there are no potentially bad outcomes. Now as to calling himself The Mad Spelunker, I have no idea how or why he chose that. He knows we're cavers, not spelunkers, so I think it may just be a tongue in cheek name for himself as he is not a caver at this time. Along that line, Mike and Emily had their annual Mexican/Chocolate party while Luke and I were there and he met with a lot of the local cavers, some with national recognition such as Art and Peg Palmer, Bob Addis, Mike and Emily, etc. I must say, I am amazed that he reached the goal of funding his project within the time frame. I know cavers are notoriously cheap, but a few of them actually kicked in a few bucks towards the project. Hope that answers some questions that people may have. Peter Jones On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Steve Peerman wrote: Caver Quest is still better (and cheaper)! On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: I saw this link in the Texas Cavers mailing list by David Locklear: http://tinyurl.com/o552nnz I wonder what hardware and software he uses...but searching online, I found these 4 articles: http://tinyurl.com/pqcxf2k http://tinyurl.com/p366b4d http://tinyurl.com/oav9ges http://tinyurl.com/oj7j9z4 Lee Skinner Steve Peerman Project Director, Fort Stanton Cave Study Project fscsp.direc...@gmail.com ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
RE: [Texascavers] Fw: Never go to Mexico- Kurt Caselli killed in Baja 1000
Tragic and sad, but not really a reason to stop going to Mexico. -- Jim From: Jon [mailto:cavefa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:31 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Fw: Never go to Mexico- Kurt Caselli killed in Baja 1000 FYI ... http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/Off-road/2013/November/ nov1613-kurt-caselli KTM rider Kurt Caselli has lost his life while competing in the famous Baja 1000 race through Mexico's Baja California peninsula, after sustaining serious injuries while leading the 883 mile long race. Early and unconfirmed reports indicate that the thirty year old hit a manmade booby trap at the 796-mile marker of the course. Sabotage to the rugged and remote off road course is common by spectators, who dig jumps and obstacles to provide more exciting viewing. The widely liked American made his debut in the Dakar Rally last year, impressing from the off by winning two stages of the tough SouthAmerican race in his rookie year to finish 31st overall. Caselli had said in the press conference after qualifying that winning the Baja was one of his big remaining goals. Baja has always been on my list. A win (by KTM) is something that's not just myself but a lot of other people have wanted to see it for a long time, and I will be very happy if I can be a part of that. I'm not trying to take any glory. I just want to be able to say that I was part of a winning team. Motorcycle News sends our deepest condolences to Kurt's family and friends. He will be sorely missed.
Re: [Texascavers] Fw: Never go to Mexico- Kurt Caselli killed in Baja 1000
I agree it is no reason to never go to Mexico. Things like this happen even here. It is horrible. Sheryl
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