texascavers Digest 4 Dec 2013 16:11:18 -0000 Issue 1892

2013-12-04 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 4 Dec 2013 16:11:18 - Issue 1892

Topics (messages 23114 through 23118):

Jill, do you received my email,
23114 by: Espeleo Coahuila

Environmental Action: Digging and Looting
23115 by: R D Milhollin

UT Grotto Meeting December 4th
23116 by: Andrea Croskrey

Bat and basketball
23117 by: caverarch

histo after 1994 NSS convention in Texas
23118 by: Mixon Bill

Administrivia:

To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com

To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com

To post to the list, e-mail:
texascavers@texascavers.com


--
---BeginMessage---
LCC. MÓNICA GRISSEL PONCE GONZÁLEZ

Coordinadora de la Comisión Internacional de Técnicas y Materiales de la UIS

Instructor Nacional Certificado de Espeleología por la FMAS

Directora de MP- Mex Caving

Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología, A.C. (Fundadora)

Asociación Italiana Geográfica La Venta (Socia)

Centro de Estudios Kársticos La Venta (Socia)

Grupo Espeleológico Vaxakmen, A.C. (Socia)

Grupo Espeleológico EspeleoZots en Chetumal (Asesora)

Grupo Pionero de Espeleología en Sonora  (Asesora)

Association for Mexican Cave Studies (Colaboradora)

Texas Speleological Association (Socia)

Unión Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleológicas (Socia)
---End Message---
---BeginMessage---


Texas Cavers, this message was posted for New Mexico caver Lynda Sanchez and 
regards the commercial glorification of digging in culturally sensitive areas 
by amateurs without professional guidance or supervision; obvious implications 
for caves in nature preserves and parks.

Good morning all..hype and shame on NGS (read below).   For those of you 
who are concerned by this new trend on the NGS Channel go to the following link 
and sign the petition to ask NGS Channel to stop their hype and pull programs 
such as Diggers!  That program alone has created more unintended consequences 
(called looting and digging on federal and state lands) of our heritage than 
just about any others.  The National Conference of State Historic Preservation 
Officers and the World Congress of Archaeology have signed on as have dozens of 
other organizations and concerned folks.
 
Several Cavers have already signed, but in view of this email trail perhaps 
some of the rest of you will sign as well. Check out the details and if you 
have additional questions let me know.  Thanks.
Lynda
 
 
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-national-geographic-channel-the-travel-channel-spike-tv-stop-airing-their-digger-programs-3?utm_source=guidesutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=petition_created---End Message---
---BeginMessage---
Howdy Texas Cavers!

Many Texas cavers ended up in Texas because of the easy access to amazing
caves in Mexico. At this week's grotto meeting we have UT Grotto member
Oscar Berrones sharing his most recent caving adventure to caves in the
mountains near his hometown of San Luis Potosi, Mexico.  As a bonus, Oscar
takes great pictures so this should be a presentation not to miss!

We will now be meeting at 7:45pm in *Burdine 134*. Follow this link to a
map of where the building is located on the University of Texas campus:
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/bur.html

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials. Attendance by cavers varies but this area is the best
place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting.  Then after the
official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene
for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East.
www.posse-east.com

Cavingly,
Andrea Croskrey
UT Grotto Vice Chair
---End Message---
---BeginMessage---
I got the following note from a non-caver Vandy fan friend in the South on 
watching a game this weekend:


I'm watching the Texas vs. Vanderbilt basketball game and a bat is loose in 
the stadium in Austin and keeps circling the heads of the players each time 
they set up for free throws!


The announcers, to their credit, knew all about the Austin bat population and 
the Congress Avenue Bridge and have been educating sports fans around the world 
on the bats of Austin!


Roger Moore













---End Message---
---BeginMessage---

http://www.ajtmh.org/content/60/6/899.full.pdf

The paper identifies the caves as Cave A and Cave B. Obviously  
Cave A is Emerald Sink near Langtry. Anybody know what Cave B is? --  
Mixon


Work is the curse of the drinking class.


You may reply to the address this message
came from, but for long-term use, save:
Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org

---End Message---


[SWR] SWR Winter Tech auction

2013-12-04 Thread Rich Wolfert
Hi, All -

A reminder to bring items for the silent auction when you come to the SWR 
Winter Tech in Carlsbad.  This donation auction is a fund raiser, with all 
auction proceeds going to the Southwestern Region of the NSS.  Bid 
generously!

We also need donation of items for door prizes.  See you in Carlsbad this 
weekend!


Rich Wolfert


___
SWR mailing list
s...@caver.net
http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr
___
 This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET


Re: [SWR] SWR Winter Tech auction

2013-12-04 Thread Kathy Peerman


Sent from my iPad

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Rich Wolfert r...@innerrealmbooks.com wrote:

 Hi, All -
 
 A reminder to bring items for the silent auction when you come to the SWR 
 Winter Tech in Carlsbad.  This donation auction is a fund raiser, with all 
 auction proceeds going to the Southwestern Region of the NSS.  Bid 
 generously!
 
 We also need donation of items for door prizes.  See you in Carlsbad this 
 weekend!
 
 
 Rich Wolfert
 
 
 ___
 SWR mailing list
 s...@caver.net
 http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr
 ___
 This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
___
SWR mailing list
s...@caver.net
http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr
___
 This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET


[Texascavers] Cave B ?

2013-12-04 Thread David
Hard to believe that was nearly 20 years ago.

Was there not a pre-convention trip to Grutas de Carrizal ?

On the subject of Emerald Sink, it is possible that cavers could visit the
first level of the cave without worry, as I think 7 cavers went past the
Junction Room in 94 to look down the drop in Emerald Sink and none of them
reported being sick.  They were probably underground less than 2 hours and
would not have been doing anything too strenuous to be taking deep breaths.

The pit is the kind of rappel you would only want to do, if you did not
have access to any other 140 foot, or just wanted to bop it once so you
would know what is down there.  Meaning it is boring compared to other 140
foot pits.

The question I have, is what would it take to pump the bat urine out of the
sump and haul out the dirt and rocks and guano.  That would make the cave
at least a few deeper.   There is probably several thousand years of guano
in the sump, from a colony of 500 bats, very near the sump.

Is there a good map of the sump ?   Diving in bat urine sounds sporting,
but I do not recall the diver mentioning anything about guano.

While I am ranting about guano, does anyone know any aquarium hobbyist
using a pinch of guano under the roots of their aquarium plants ?

David Locklear


[Texascavers] histo after 1994 NSS convention in Texas

2013-12-04 Thread Mixon Bill

http://www.ajtmh.org/content/60/6/899.full.pdf

The paper identifies the caves as Cave A and Cave B. Obviously  
Cave A is Emerald Sink near Langtry. Anybody know what Cave B is? --  
Mixon


Work is the curse of the drinking class.


You may reply to the address this message
came from, but for long-term use, save:
Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org


-
Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com
For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com