Re: [Texascavers] Corvette incident, etc.

2014-02-14 Thread Andy Edwards
Haha, I know in my case I would only pay to see the cars rotting in a
sinkhole! :)
On Feb 13, 2014 2:03 PM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, the Corvette museum is a very popular attraction in the cave
 country area in Kentucky. You always see brochures for it everywhere you go
 up there and the parking lot is typically full. When I worked at Mammoth, a
 guy I was dating dragged me there and there were plenty of other people
 there perusing the cars. The guy wanted to go to the Corvette museum
 because he wasn't into caves. (you can guess how long that relationship
 lasted.)

 Speaking of caves, in Kentucky, meth labs in caves are unfortunately a
 concern. If you enter a cave and smell a chemical-ish smell, or see rusted
 barrels, etc, you are advised to quickly exit and call the police. They
 could blow up. I don't know much about the Hays county situation and it
 sounds like it wasn't drug related, but it's something to be aware of,
 David, since you mused that caves likely don't have unattended
 explosives...but an underground meth lab definitely falls in that
 category. Be aware! And meth is not just a Kentucky thing. :/

 Mallory Mayeux

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:45 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Warning:  this email just contains inflated opinions and personal
 irrelevant stuff.

 I would bet more people would someday pay to see the wrecked Corvettes
 displayed as an attraction in a cave, than the museum would have ever made
 in the future, as it was probably not a profitable business, but relied
 heavily on donations and volunteers.  Make lemonade when you have lots of
 extra lemons.

 The Hays County incident does not sound like a malicious stunt.  Someone
 needs to store explosives somewhere safe, and they must have presumed wrong
 that their explosives would be found.   I seriously doubt there are random
 caves with unattended explosives.   It was probably a temporary storage for
 they were most likely to be used in the near future.   I doubt it was a
 caver, but if it was, then there would only be only a handful of
 suspects.   For example, name a caver that could even locate a cave in Hays
 County.   Hopefully it was not placed by a teen fantasizing about a
 copycat-style terrorist attack.

 And for an update on my last personal post,,

 I am searching Craigslist for a roommate now.   Unfortunatley, a few hours
 after I posted my CaveTex ad, one of the criminal associates of my evicted
 next door neighbor broke into the vacant apartment and I had to call the
 police again.   So I put a new deadbolt on the door, and only I have a key.
 I am hoping to live there in 2 weeks, and use the old apartment across the
 hallway, as my office and storage space, but will need a roommate first.

 My estranged wife wants to celebrate our 13 year marriage on Valentine's
 Day.   That item would never make it on to my to-do list.  But I will have
 to suffer through it for the kid.

 David Locklear




[Texascavers] Dillers

2014-02-14 Thread BMorgan994
“The  animal was cooked using its armor as a natural container, directly on 
the  fire
 
So it turns out that my recipe is 9000 years old and has been good ever  
since. Just yesterday I finished the last of an excellent batch of well aged  
armadillo stew over yellow rice, Superlative! 
 
Dispatching the diller must be carefully done to avoid damage to the  
shell. A 22 short to the head works well, but be appraised that the brain is 
not  
a well developed organ in either the chicken or the diller, so don't be  
surprised if it has little effect. In other words if you shoot on in the head 
in  the field it will still run away and you may have to dig it out of a 
hole. For  that reason it is best to trap rather than hunt  them.
 
Diller cooking starts with a nice warm soapy bleach bath, removal of  the 
feet, head, and tail, then the skinning which must be carefully done  without 
the loss of fingers and or other wounds which might transmit leprosy,  
chagas, etc. Start skinning as soon as possible after execution to avoid rigor  
mortis which makes it even more difficult. Be sure to cut out the anal 
glands.  The shell must remain intact, a cracked soup bowl will not  do!
 
Thickly crust the exposed flesh with a dry rub of  garlic salt and  cayenne 
pepper then slow roast directly over an oak fire for about four hours.  
Forget about stuffing it with veggies, etc as they will invariably be  
oevercooked. I recommend putting the diller on a roasting pan so the meat  
inside 
the shell (which is the best part!) doesn't get burned. I also recommend  a 
tin foil or roofing tin tent. Dillers are incredibly fat so the meat will be  
boiled in its own oil. Short of being burned to a crisp you can't overcook 
one.  The whole thing is yummy but the leg meat is least yummy whereas the 
almost  burned part inside the shell is a feast fit for Oztotl! 
 
Serve with beer, bud, and bullshit around the same fire on which it was  
cooked. You will never eat venison again!
 
Sleaze
 
From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com
To: texas cavers  texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:34:43  -0800
Subject: New dish for next convention


http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-arma
dillo-n24806?gt1=43001 
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Re: [Texascavers] Dillers

2014-02-14 Thread texascav...@yahoo.com
I'll take your word for it.

Me? I'll stick to Spam.

Mark, by sheer dumb luck, somehow managed to send this from his Virgin Mobile 
Android-Powered Device

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From: bmorgan...@aol.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Dillers
Date: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 9:06 AM
“The 
animal was cooked using its armor as a natural container, directly on the 
fire

So it turns out that my recipe is 9000 years old and has been good ever 
since. Just yesterday I finished the last of an excellent batch of well aged 
armadillo stew over yellow rice, Superlative! 

Dispatching the diller must be carefully done to avoid damage to the 
shell. A 22 short to the head works well, but be appraised that the brain is 
not 
a well developed organ in either the chicken or the diller, so don't be 
surprised if it has little effect. In other words if you shoot on in the head 
in 
the field it will still run away and you may have to dig it out of a hole. For 
that reason it is best to trap rather than hunt 
them.

Diller cooking starts with a nice warm soapy bleach bath, removal of 
the feet, head, and tail, then the skinning which must be carefully done 
without the loss of fingers and or other wounds which might transmit leprosy, 
chagas, etc. Start skinning as soon as possible after execution to avoid rigor 
mortis which makes it even more difficult. Be sure to cut out the anal glands. 
The shell must remain intact, a cracked soup bowl will not 
do!

Thickly crust the exposed flesh with a dry rub of  garlic salt and 
cayenne pepper then slow roast directly over an oak fire for about four hours. 
Forget about stuffing it with veggies, etc as they will invariably be 
oevercooked. I recommend putting the diller on a roasting pan so the meat 
inside the shell (which is the best part!) doesn't get burned. I also recommend 
a tin foil or roofing tin tent. Dillers are incredibly fat so the meat will be 
boiled in its own oil. Short of being burned to a crisp you can't overcook one. 
The whole thing is yummy but the leg meat is least yummy whereas the almost 
burned part inside the shell is a feast fit for Oztotl! 

Serve with beer, bud, and bullshit around the same fire on which it was 
cooked. You will never eat venison again!

Sleaze

From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comTo: texas cavers 
texascavers@texascavers.comDate: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:34:43 
-0800Subject: New dish for next convention


http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-armadillo-n24806?gt1=43001
 
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texascavers Digest 15 Feb 2014 04:50:24 -0000 Issue 1931

2014-02-14 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 15 Feb 2014 04:50:24 - Issue 1931

Topics (messages 23412 through 23423):

Re: Corvette incident, etc.
23412 by: Justin Leigh Shaw
23413 by: Andy Edwards

Dillers
23414 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
23417 by: texascav...@yahoo.com
23423 by: Gill Edigar

Re: explosives
23415 by: Gill Edigar

Want to work in Oregon?
23416 by: Louise Power

Ice Caves Article
23418 by: Mark Minton
23419 by: Louise Power

glacier caves
23420 by: Mixon Bill
23421 by: Diana Tomchick

Corvette Caverns ?
23422 by: David

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Sometime last year I came upon the remains of a discarded meth lab in the
Karst of Southwestern Travis County. The authorities were notified and
carted the toxic trash away. I am aware of one other incident within the
last couple of years where a caver discovered a meth lab disposed of in the
Karst of Southwestern Travis County.

I've gathered that the alert I sent out yesterday is related to the
incident last month, however something is making someone think the person
who stored explosives in the one cave has also stored explosives in other
caves. The whole story seems dubious, but I'd sure of felt bad if I scoffed
at that warning and then someone got into a nasty situation.

Always remember, the organized caving community is only aware of about half
of the regular visitors to the caves of a given area. Not everyone who go's
into caves has the same intention as us.

Cave Safe,
   Justin


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, the Corvette museum is a very popular attraction in the cave
 country area in Kentucky. You always see brochures for it everywhere you go
 up there and the parking lot is typically full. When I worked at Mammoth, a
 guy I was dating dragged me there and there were plenty of other people
 there perusing the cars. The guy wanted to go to the Corvette museum
 because he wasn't into caves. (you can guess how long that relationship
 lasted.)

 Speaking of caves, in Kentucky, meth labs in caves are unfortunately a
 concern. If you enter a cave and smell a chemical-ish smell, or see rusted
 barrels, etc, you are advised to quickly exit and call the police. They
 could blow up. I don't know much about the Hays county situation and it
 sounds like it wasn't drug related, but it's something to be aware of,
 David, since you mused that caves likely don't have unattended
 explosives...but an underground meth lab definitely falls in that
 category. Be aware! And meth is not just a Kentucky thing. :/

 Mallory Mayeux

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:45 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Warning:  this email just contains inflated opinions and personal
 irrelevant stuff.

 I would bet more people would someday pay to see the wrecked Corvettes
 displayed as an attraction in a cave, than the museum would have ever made
 in the future, as it was probably not a profitable business, but relied
 heavily on donations and volunteers.  Make lemonade when you have lots of
 extra lemons.

 The Hays County incident does not sound like a malicious stunt.  Someone
 needs to store explosives somewhere safe, and they must have presumed wrong
 that their explosives would be found.   I seriously doubt there are random
 caves with unattended explosives.   It was probably a temporary storage for
 they were most likely to be used in the near future.   I doubt it was a
 caver, but if it was, then there would only be only a handful of
 suspects.   For example, name a caver that could even locate a cave in Hays
 County.   Hopefully it was not placed by a teen fantasizing about a
 copycat-style terrorist attack.

 And for an update on my last personal post,,

 I am searching Craigslist for a roommate now.   Unfortunatley, a few hours
 after I posted my CaveTex ad, one of the criminal associates of my evicted
 next door neighbor broke into the vacant apartment and I had to call the
 police again.   So I put a new deadbolt on the door, and only I have a key.
 I am hoping to live there in 2 weeks, and use the old apartment across the
 hallway, as my office and storage space, but will need a roommate first.

 My estranged wife wants to celebrate our 13 year marriage on Valentine's
 Day.   That item would never make it on to my to-do list.  But I will have
 to suffer through it for the kid.

 David Locklear




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jus...@oztotl.net

512-797-4734

Box 40056
Austin, TX
78704


we need to start using our collective intelligence in a creative, clear
and coherent manor
  - John 

[Texascavers] glacier caves

2014-02-14 Thread Mixon Bill
There is a long article on the same project of surveying glacier caves  
on Mt. Hood in the February 2013 NSS News.


Following the NSS convention in White Salmon, Washington, in 1972,  
there was scheduled a trip to Paradise Ice Caves in Mt. Rainier  
National Park. These were true glacier caves; they have since, I  
think, melted away. But the trip actually visited a cave in firn,  
compressed snow, instead. Even though it wasn't in true glacier ice,  
the passage was impressive, and the blue-green glow of sunlight  
filtering through the roof was beautiful. -- Mixon


To move your oxygen, a haemoglobin molecule contains about 10,000  
atoms and carries 8 atoms of oxygen. A red blood cell contains about  
280 million haemoglobin molecules, and a pint of blood contains about  
160 trillion red blood cells.


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