Re: [Texascavers] Corvette incident, etc.
Haha, I know in my case I would only pay to see the cars rotting in a sinkhole! :) On Feb 13, 2014 2:03 PM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, the Corvette museum is a very popular attraction in the cave country area in Kentucky. You always see brochures for it everywhere you go up there and the parking lot is typically full. When I worked at Mammoth, a guy I was dating dragged me there and there were plenty of other people there perusing the cars. The guy wanted to go to the Corvette museum because he wasn't into caves. (you can guess how long that relationship lasted.) Speaking of caves, in Kentucky, meth labs in caves are unfortunately a concern. If you enter a cave and smell a chemical-ish smell, or see rusted barrels, etc, you are advised to quickly exit and call the police. They could blow up. I don't know much about the Hays county situation and it sounds like it wasn't drug related, but it's something to be aware of, David, since you mused that caves likely don't have unattended explosives...but an underground meth lab definitely falls in that category. Be aware! And meth is not just a Kentucky thing. :/ Mallory Mayeux Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:45 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Warning: this email just contains inflated opinions and personal irrelevant stuff. I would bet more people would someday pay to see the wrecked Corvettes displayed as an attraction in a cave, than the museum would have ever made in the future, as it was probably not a profitable business, but relied heavily on donations and volunteers. Make lemonade when you have lots of extra lemons. The Hays County incident does not sound like a malicious stunt. Someone needs to store explosives somewhere safe, and they must have presumed wrong that their explosives would be found. I seriously doubt there are random caves with unattended explosives. It was probably a temporary storage for they were most likely to be used in the near future. I doubt it was a caver, but if it was, then there would only be only a handful of suspects. For example, name a caver that could even locate a cave in Hays County. Hopefully it was not placed by a teen fantasizing about a copycat-style terrorist attack. And for an update on my last personal post,, I am searching Craigslist for a roommate now. Unfortunatley, a few hours after I posted my CaveTex ad, one of the criminal associates of my evicted next door neighbor broke into the vacant apartment and I had to call the police again. So I put a new deadbolt on the door, and only I have a key. I am hoping to live there in 2 weeks, and use the old apartment across the hallway, as my office and storage space, but will need a roommate first. My estranged wife wants to celebrate our 13 year marriage on Valentine's Day. That item would never make it on to my to-do list. But I will have to suffer through it for the kid. David Locklear
[Texascavers] Dillers
“The animal was cooked using its armor as a natural container, directly on the fire So it turns out that my recipe is 9000 years old and has been good ever since. Just yesterday I finished the last of an excellent batch of well aged armadillo stew over yellow rice, Superlative! Dispatching the diller must be carefully done to avoid damage to the shell. A 22 short to the head works well, but be appraised that the brain is not a well developed organ in either the chicken or the diller, so don't be surprised if it has little effect. In other words if you shoot on in the head in the field it will still run away and you may have to dig it out of a hole. For that reason it is best to trap rather than hunt them. Diller cooking starts with a nice warm soapy bleach bath, removal of the feet, head, and tail, then the skinning which must be carefully done without the loss of fingers and or other wounds which might transmit leprosy, chagas, etc. Start skinning as soon as possible after execution to avoid rigor mortis which makes it even more difficult. Be sure to cut out the anal glands. The shell must remain intact, a cracked soup bowl will not do! Thickly crust the exposed flesh with a dry rub of garlic salt and cayenne pepper then slow roast directly over an oak fire for about four hours. Forget about stuffing it with veggies, etc as they will invariably be oevercooked. I recommend putting the diller on a roasting pan so the meat inside the shell (which is the best part!) doesn't get burned. I also recommend a tin foil or roofing tin tent. Dillers are incredibly fat so the meat will be boiled in its own oil. Short of being burned to a crisp you can't overcook one. The whole thing is yummy but the leg meat is least yummy whereas the almost burned part inside the shell is a feast fit for Oztotl! Serve with beer, bud, and bullshit around the same fire on which it was cooked. You will never eat venison again! Sleaze From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com To: texas cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:34:43 -0800 Subject: New dish for next convention http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-arma dillo-n24806?gt1=43001 =
Re: [Texascavers] Dillers
I'll take your word for it. Me? I'll stick to Spam. Mark, by sheer dumb luck, somehow managed to send this from his Virgin Mobile Android-Powered Device - Reply message - From: bmorgan...@aol.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Dillers Date: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 9:06 AM “The animal was cooked using its armor as a natural container, directly on the fire So it turns out that my recipe is 9000 years old and has been good ever since. Just yesterday I finished the last of an excellent batch of well aged armadillo stew over yellow rice, Superlative! Dispatching the diller must be carefully done to avoid damage to the shell. A 22 short to the head works well, but be appraised that the brain is not a well developed organ in either the chicken or the diller, so don't be surprised if it has little effect. In other words if you shoot on in the head in the field it will still run away and you may have to dig it out of a hole. For that reason it is best to trap rather than hunt them. Diller cooking starts with a nice warm soapy bleach bath, removal of the feet, head, and tail, then the skinning which must be carefully done without the loss of fingers and or other wounds which might transmit leprosy, chagas, etc. Start skinning as soon as possible after execution to avoid rigor mortis which makes it even more difficult. Be sure to cut out the anal glands. The shell must remain intact, a cracked soup bowl will not do! Thickly crust the exposed flesh with a dry rub of garlic salt and cayenne pepper then slow roast directly over an oak fire for about four hours. Forget about stuffing it with veggies, etc as they will invariably be oevercooked. I recommend putting the diller on a roasting pan so the meat inside the shell (which is the best part!) doesn't get burned. I also recommend a tin foil or roofing tin tent. Dillers are incredibly fat so the meat will be boiled in its own oil. Short of being burned to a crisp you can't overcook one. The whole thing is yummy but the leg meat is least yummy whereas the almost burned part inside the shell is a feast fit for Oztotl! Serve with beer, bud, and bullshit around the same fire on which it was cooked. You will never eat venison again! Sleaze From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comTo: texas cavers texascavers@texascavers.comDate: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:34:43 -0800Subject: New dish for next convention http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/9-000-year-old-recipe-roast-armadillo-n24806?gt1=43001 =
texascavers Digest 15 Feb 2014 04:50:24 -0000 Issue 1931
texascavers Digest 15 Feb 2014 04:50:24 - Issue 1931 Topics (messages 23412 through 23423): Re: Corvette incident, etc. 23412 by: Justin Leigh Shaw 23413 by: Andy Edwards Dillers 23414 by: BMorgan994.aol.com 23417 by: texascav...@yahoo.com 23423 by: Gill Edigar Re: explosives 23415 by: Gill Edigar Want to work in Oregon? 23416 by: Louise Power Ice Caves Article 23418 by: Mark Minton 23419 by: Louise Power glacier caves 23420 by: Mixon Bill 23421 by: Diana Tomchick Corvette Caverns ? 23422 by: David Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Sometime last year I came upon the remains of a discarded meth lab in the Karst of Southwestern Travis County. The authorities were notified and carted the toxic trash away. I am aware of one other incident within the last couple of years where a caver discovered a meth lab disposed of in the Karst of Southwestern Travis County. I've gathered that the alert I sent out yesterday is related to the incident last month, however something is making someone think the person who stored explosives in the one cave has also stored explosives in other caves. The whole story seems dubious, but I'd sure of felt bad if I scoffed at that warning and then someone got into a nasty situation. Always remember, the organized caving community is only aware of about half of the regular visitors to the caves of a given area. Not everyone who go's into caves has the same intention as us. Cave Safe, Justin On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, the Corvette museum is a very popular attraction in the cave country area in Kentucky. You always see brochures for it everywhere you go up there and the parking lot is typically full. When I worked at Mammoth, a guy I was dating dragged me there and there were plenty of other people there perusing the cars. The guy wanted to go to the Corvette museum because he wasn't into caves. (you can guess how long that relationship lasted.) Speaking of caves, in Kentucky, meth labs in caves are unfortunately a concern. If you enter a cave and smell a chemical-ish smell, or see rusted barrels, etc, you are advised to quickly exit and call the police. They could blow up. I don't know much about the Hays county situation and it sounds like it wasn't drug related, but it's something to be aware of, David, since you mused that caves likely don't have unattended explosives...but an underground meth lab definitely falls in that category. Be aware! And meth is not just a Kentucky thing. :/ Mallory Mayeux Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:45 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Warning: this email just contains inflated opinions and personal irrelevant stuff. I would bet more people would someday pay to see the wrecked Corvettes displayed as an attraction in a cave, than the museum would have ever made in the future, as it was probably not a profitable business, but relied heavily on donations and volunteers. Make lemonade when you have lots of extra lemons. The Hays County incident does not sound like a malicious stunt. Someone needs to store explosives somewhere safe, and they must have presumed wrong that their explosives would be found. I seriously doubt there are random caves with unattended explosives. It was probably a temporary storage for they were most likely to be used in the near future. I doubt it was a caver, but if it was, then there would only be only a handful of suspects. For example, name a caver that could even locate a cave in Hays County. Hopefully it was not placed by a teen fantasizing about a copycat-style terrorist attack. And for an update on my last personal post,, I am searching Craigslist for a roommate now. Unfortunatley, a few hours after I posted my CaveTex ad, one of the criminal associates of my evicted next door neighbor broke into the vacant apartment and I had to call the police again. So I put a new deadbolt on the door, and only I have a key. I am hoping to live there in 2 weeks, and use the old apartment across the hallway, as my office and storage space, but will need a roommate first. My estranged wife wants to celebrate our 13 year marriage on Valentine's Day. That item would never make it on to my to-do list. But I will have to suffer through it for the kid. David Locklear -- Justin Leigh Shaw jus...@oztotl.net 512-797-4734 Box 40056 Austin, TX 78704 we need to start using our collective intelligence in a creative, clear and coherent manor - John
[Texascavers] glacier caves
There is a long article on the same project of surveying glacier caves on Mt. Hood in the February 2013 NSS News. Following the NSS convention in White Salmon, Washington, in 1972, there was scheduled a trip to Paradise Ice Caves in Mt. Rainier National Park. These were true glacier caves; they have since, I think, melted away. But the trip actually visited a cave in firn, compressed snow, instead. Even though it wasn't in true glacier ice, the passage was impressive, and the blue-green glow of sunlight filtering through the roof was beautiful. -- Mixon To move your oxygen, a haemoglobin molecule contains about 10,000 atoms and carries 8 atoms of oxygen. A red blood cell contains about 280 million haemoglobin molecules, and a pint of blood contains about 160 trillion red blood cells. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com