Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] a caver video
Thanks, David! Very interesting. Here are some other links to Nettlebed. http://www.3news.co.nz/Cavers-reveal-NZs-deepest-cave-system/tabid/1160/articleID/330632/Default.aspx http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/11512/inside-nettlebed http://cavingnews.com/20120303-new-zealand-stormy-pot-close-to-connection-with-nettlebed-cave-system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nettlebed_Cave - Pete On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:09 PM, David wrote: A caver related video was uploaded a few hours ago to YouTube. I am only posting this because it appears to be a fresh story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcQcaj4MAU I will let someone else elaborate whether it is noteworthy or not, as I am not familiar with the story, and only skimmed through the video. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] more volunteer work opportunities at TCMA Preserves
Volunteer Workday at Whirlpool Cave Preserve (Austin). Saturday, May 17th. 10 AM until done. TCMA needs 10-15 people for 2 or 3 hours to pick up litter dumped by the flood, help cull a little dead wood, and move some brush. Bring loppers, bow saws, and gloves. We can visit the cave afterwards if anyone wants. All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to sign a liability waiver. Please contact Preserve Manager Matt Turner to RSVP and get directions (matt.tur...@tcmacaves.org). If it is raining hard, the clean-up will be postponed to a later date. Volunteer Workday at Godwin Ranch Preserve (Round Rock). Saturday, May 24th. 10 AM until done. TCMA needs 5-6 people for 2 or 3 hours to pick up litter, help cull a tree that has fallen near the entrance, and move some brush. Bring loppers, bow saws, and gloves. We will look for other entrances after we're done working. All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to sign a liability waiver. Please contact Preserve Manager Matt Turner to RSVP and get directions (matt.tur...@tcmacaves.org). If it is raining hard, the clean-up will be postponed to a later date.
[Texascavers] Ezells Cave Preserve management update
Congratulations to Denise Prendergast and Ben Hutchins, who are now part of the Ezells Cave Preserve Committee, working under Preserve Manager Ron Ralph. A volunteer workday is being planned at the Preserve for this spring, and funding is being sought to help offset the cost of a new bat-friendly cave gate, something vitally necessary for the health of the cave ecosystem. Details to follow. Jim Kennedy, TCMA Preserves Chair
texascavers Digest 26 Feb 2014 12:37:23 -0000 Issue 1939
texascavers Digest 26 Feb 2014 12:37:23 - Issue 1939 Topics (messages 23502 through 23512): Mailing list manners and etiquitte 23502 by: Charles Goldsmith Re: Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report 23503 by: Bill Steele 23511 by: Mike Flannigan 23512 by: Andy Gluesenkamp Re: Land Owner Relations 23504 by: Preston Forsythe Keystone XL Pledge - Not Directly caving related 23505 by: scott grimes 23506 by: George-Paul Richmann 23507 by: jerryatkin.aol.com 23508 by: Ron Ralph Karst Interest Group: 28 April to 2 May 2014! 23509 by: George Veni a caver video 23510 by: David Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- First off, please do not reply all to this if you want to reply, send it only to me. I've stated several times that I won't moderate this list, I leave it up to the community to self regulate. However, I will say this as the list administrator and someone who pays for the hosting out of my own pocket (with a few generous donations by several cavers and groups) and also I donate my time to run this. Please STOP with all of the snide remarks and jabs in on-topic emails. It does NOTHING but cause strife. Texans as a whole are a fierce and proud lot, and while I could say something along the lines of, Don't say anything online that you wouldn't say to their face, but I know at least a few of you would say it to the persons face. Please be civil and do as your momma taught you, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say it. I respect everyone on this list, mainly cause you are a caver at heart, but the fact that you are part of our community, but it saddens me when some of you can't be an adult and keep your mouth shut. So one last plea, stop with the jabs and snide remarks, take them off list. Thanks Charles list administrator and not so much of a lurker anymore... ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Yeah, more underground-type caving! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:40 PM, caverarch cavera...@aol.com wrote: Great report, Jim. Exactly what the this list ought to be presenting. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com To: CaveTex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:23 am Subject: [Texascavers] Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report I, for one, prefer the discourse of real cavers. But removing people from the list goes against everything we stand for, unless there is a serious beach of protocol that even cavers will not tolerate. To get us back to reality (caving), I offer the following trip report. This past weekend I took eight other cavers back to the historic Marneldo Ranch in Uvalde County. We started caving out there in 1997 and were pretty active for about 6 years before quitting for some reason. In the meantime, the ranch has been broken up and now the family only has about 850 acres left. Last year one of the new landowners contacted me about checking out his caves. I didn't know of any on that parcel, so I agreed. A small reconnaissance party of me, Lee Jay Graves, Will Quast, and Kris Peña enjoyed wonderful hospitality and were shown two new caves and found two more. And earlier this year Jean Krejca and I had the opportunity to revisit this guy, and also reconnected with the owners of the remaining Marneldo, who treated me like a long-lost cousin. They asked me to give a presentation on caves to their valley-wide wildlife association meeting, and I readily agreed. The meeting was held this past Saturday, at one of the ramcher's homes (a new contact for me). I spoke for about an hour to a very interested and engaged audience. I think I met four more new landowners there, and even had a great conversation with the local feed store owner, who was pretty knowledgeable about local caves and rock shelters. After the meeting, one of the new (to me) owners took us out on his place and showed us some very promising karst features. Meanwhile, I had three teams out surveying. Galen Falgout, Ellie Watson, and Lee Jay Graves surveyed Montana Cave on Jim Livergood's place, one of the new caves from last year. Galen sketched and did a fine job. Will Quast, Kris Peña, and Guin McDade surveyed Salamander Cave on the adjacent property, now owned by Bob Hixon. This is another new (to us) cave that we were shown last year, but I suspect it may be Reddell's long-lost (from the early 60s) Grape Hollow Cave. Lastly, Ben Hutchins led Yazmin Avila and Bryce Smith on a complete resurvey of Falling Animal
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[Texascavers] New Zealand connection
Thanks, David, indeed a significant news item. If you view it, YouTube also suggests a mediocre slide show and a nice 35-minute video on the struggle for the connection, although they hadn't made it by the end of that show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFFqB7xrOk --Mixon To move your oxygen, a haemoglobin molecule contains about 10,000 atoms and carries 8 atoms of oxygen. A red blood cell contains about 280 million haemoglobin molecules, and a pint of blood contains about 160 trillion red blood cells. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report
It rained like crazy as we climbed the cliff to enter Sandtleben Cave, but had quit by the time we exited the cave. That was in 1999, or perhaps 1998. Here are some pics from that trip: http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(8).jpg http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(9).jpg http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(11).jpg http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(13).jpg I'd like to go back someday too. Mike Flannigan On 2/24/2014 12:40 PM, texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report From: Julia Germany germa...@aol.com Date: 2/24/2014 10:37 AM To: cavercr...@gmail.com, texascavers@texascavers.com EXCELLENT trip report, Jim! I remember going to the Marneldo Ranch a really long time ago. Was there still water in the swimming hole? Wasn't Sandtleben where we all took refuge from a passing storm and wrote Haikus? Let me know the next time you are heading out there. So sorry to hear that they parceled the land, but not surprised. AWESOME that you met the various owners and got relationships started for more caving in the area! julia -Original Message- From: Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com To: CaveTex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:23 am Subject: [Texascavers] Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report I, for one, prefer the discourse of real cavers. But removing people from the list goes against everything we stand for, unless there is a serious beach of protocol that even cavers will not tolerate. To get us back to reality (caving), I offer the following trip report. This past weekend I took eight other cavers back to the historic Marneldo Ranch in Uvalde County. We started caving out there in 1997 and were pretty active for about 6 years before quitting for some reason. In the meantime, the ranch has been broken up and now the family only has about 850 acres left. Last year one of the new landowners contacted me about checking out his caves. I didn't know of any on that parcel, so I agreed. A small reconnaissance party of me, Lee Jay Graves, Will Quast, and Kris Peña enjoyed wonderful hospitality and were shown two new caves and found two more. And earlier this year Jean Krejca and I had the opportunity to revisit this guy, and also reconnected with the owners of the remaining Marneldo, who treated me like a long-lost cousin. They asked me to give a presentation on caves to their valley-wide wildlife association meeting, and I readily agreed. The meeting was held this past Saturday, at one of the ramcher's homes (a new contact for me). I spoke for about an hour to a very interested and engaged audience. I think I met four more new landowners there, and even had a great conversation with the local feed store owner, who was pretty knowledgeable about local caves and rock shelters. After the meeting, one of the new (to me) owners took us out on his place and showed us some very promising karst features. Meanwhile, I had three teams out surveying. Galen Falgout, Ellie Watson, and Lee Jay Graves surveyed Montana Cave on Jim Livergood's place, one of the new caves from last year. Galen sketched and did a fine job. Will Quast, Kris Peña, and Guin McDade surveyed Salamander Cave on the adjacent property, now owned by Bob Hixon. This is another new (to us) cave that we were shown last year, but I suspect it may be Reddell's long-lost (from the early 60s) Grape Hollow Cave. Lastly, Ben Hutchins led Yazmin Avila and Bryce Smith on a complete resurvey of Falling Animal Cave, which was never finished by previous surveyors. The new sketch is vastly more detailed, and a worthy record of this significant cave. In the afternoon a bunch of us worked on the new karst features before having to quit for dinner. We made a quick jaunt back to Hixon's to look at the dinosaur tracks, and then joined the Livergoods for a wonderful venison roast, supplemented by a crock pot pork roast with vegetables from Ellie and Galen. Afterwards we drove back to Marneldo for drinks with owners Todd and Beth Figg. Another neighboring rancher, John McNair and his wife, were having dinner with the Figgs, so we had lots more great conversations about caves. Sunday morning we treated the Livergoods to a huge bacon and egg breakfast. Afterwards, I took everyone to Sandtleben Cave on the Figg's place. It's about 1500 feet of pleasant walking passage, with fascinating geology and biology. But before that cave, we had one more treat. A feral donkey had died a couple of days previously, and Guin wanted the skull. Livergood accompanied us while Guin decapitated the ex-burro. The head was quadruple-bagged, dice were rolled for who was transporting the package back to Austin, tools were cleaned, and all had a great fun cave trip, even seeing a ringtail. We packed up, thoroughly cleaned the bunkhouse, and got together one last time for a late barbecue lunch in Hondo. All-in-all, a superb
Re: [Texascavers] Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report
1998. Rained like a sumbich. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:25 AM, Mike Flannigan mikef...@att.net wrote: It rained like crazy as we climbed the cliff to enter Sandtleben Cave, but had quit by the time we exited the cave. That was in 1999, or perhaps 1998. Here are some pics from that trip: http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(8).jpg http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(9).jpg http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(11).jpg http://www.mflan.com/temp/1999_marneldo_ranch_(13).jpg I'd like to go back someday too. Mike Flannigan On 2/24/2014 12:40 PM, texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report From: Julia Germany germa...@aol.com Date: 2/24/2014 10:37 AM To: cavercr...@gmail.com, texascavers@texascavers.com EXCELLENT trip report, Jim! I remember going to the Marneldo Ranch a really long time ago. Was there still water in the swimming hole? Wasn't Sandtleben where we all took refuge from a passing storm and wrote Haikus? Let me know the next time you are heading out there. So sorry to hear that they parceled the land, but not surprised. AWESOME that you met the various owners and got relationships started for more caving in the area! julia -Original Message- From: Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com To: CaveTex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2014 10:23 am Subject: [Texascavers] Bullies, and a (wait for it!) Trip Report I, for one, prefer the discourse of real cavers. But removing people from the list goes against everything we stand for, unless there is a serious beach of protocol that even cavers will not tolerate. To get us back to reality (caving), I offer the following trip report. This past weekend I took eight other cavers back to the historic Marneldo Ranch in Uvalde County. We started caving out there in 1997 and were pretty active for about 6 years before quitting for some reason. In the meantime, the ranch has been broken up and now the family only has about 850 acres left. Last year one of the new landowners contacted me about checking out his caves. I didn't know of any on that parcel, so I agreed. A small reconnaissance party of me, Lee Jay Graves, Will Quast, and Kris Peña enjoyed wonderful hospitality and were shown two new caves and found two more. And earlier this year Jean Krejca and I had the opportunity to revisit this guy, and also reconnected with the owners of the remaining Marneldo, who treated me like a long-lost cousin. They asked me to give a presentation on caves to their valley-wide wildlife association meeting, and I readily agreed. The meeting was held this past Saturday, at one of the ramcher's homes (a new contact for me). I spoke for about an hour to a very interested and engaged audience. I think I met four more new landowners there, and even had a great conversation with the local feed store owner, who was pretty knowledgeable about local caves and rock shelters. After the meeting, one of the new (to me) owners took us out on his place and showed us some very promising karst features. Meanwhile, I had three teams out surveying. Galen Falgout, Ellie Watson, and Lee Jay Graves surveyed Montana Cave on Jim Livergood's place, one of the new caves from last year. Galen sketched and did a fine job. Will Quast, Kris Peña, and Guin McDade surveyed Salamander Cave on the adjacent property, now owned by Bob Hixon. This is another new (to us) cave that we were shown last year, but I suspect it may be Reddell's long-lost (from the early 60s) Grape Hollow Cave. Lastly, Ben Hutchins led Yazmin Avila and Bryce Smith on a complete resurvey of Falling Animal Cave, which was never finished by previous surveyors. The new sketch is vastly more detailed, and a worthy record of this significant cave. In the afternoon a bunch of us worked on the new karst features before having to quit for dinner. We made a quick jaunt back to Hixon's to look at the dinosaur tracks, and then joined the Livergoods for a wonderful venison roast, supplemented by a crock pot pork roast with vegetables from Ellie and Galen. Afterwards we drove back to Marneldo for drinks with owners Todd and Beth Figg. Another neighboring rancher, John McNair and his wife, were having dinner with the Figgs, so we had lots more great conversations about caves. Sunday morning we treated the Livergoods to a huge bacon and egg breakfast. Afterwards, I took everyone to Sandtleben Cave on the Figg's place. It's about 1500 feet of pleasant walking passage, with fascinating geology and biology. But before that cave, we had one more treat. A feral donkey had died a couple of days previously, and Guin wanted the skull. Livergood accompanied us while Guin decapitated the ex-burro.
