texascavers Digest 31 Mar 2014 15:56:58 -0000 Issue 1956
texascavers Digest 31 Mar 2014 15:56:58 - Issue 1956 Topics (messages 23640 through 23644): Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Fwd: A Cavers Cookbook 23640 by: Louise Power Fw: 23641 by: Bill Stephens Cave Entrance Photography with a Drone 23642 by: Preston Forsythe 23643 by: Arburn Don 23644 by: Stefan Creaser Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- One of my early in-cave foods was Vienna sausages. If I just wanted something warmed up like sandwiches, meatloaf, lasagna or sweet rolls, I Iaid them on top of the defroster and turned the temp up. Cooking on the road was simple and by the time you got to your campsite, dinner was ready. Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:23:45 + From: dirt...@comcast.net To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com CC: s...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Fwd: A Cavers Cookbook There are Bill's Campfire Beans a la 1991. They can also be wired to the exhaust manifold of an appropriate caving vehicle. DirtDoc From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:20:06 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: A Cavers Cookbook I'm pretty much at a loss. My thing for cave-trip cookery is putting a can of chili in the edge of the campfire. But I've seen evidence of creativity in others around here. --Mixon Begin forwarded message:From: BRYANT BETSILL bryantbets...@comcast.netDate: March 28, 2014 12:08:24 PM CDTTo: bmixon@alumni.uchicago.eduSubject: A Cavers Cookbook Subject: Cavers Cookbook Dear Mr. Mixon, I have seen your name in the NSS NEWS over the decades and now I have cause to write to you. I am a bit thrilled and honored if you reply. I am A. Bryant Betsill of Fayetteville, GA member 23453, author of a few articles for the NSS NEWS back in the day, author of the Boy Scouts of America Venture Caving program circa 1991, author of five books available through Amazon.com, author of an article for the Georgia EMC magazine. Movie critic for the Bent Tree, the campus newspaper for Clayton State University, circa way back.I am interested in composing a cookbook with recipes suitable for either in cave or outside the cave, and include any amusing or instructive dialogue the contributor might have. For example, I have a recipe for Howard's Waterfall Hodag Stew and the story of the inquisition from a property owner before getting access to Mill Cave in Middle Tennessee all while I was wearing cargo shorts, flip flops and the SERA Hot Pink tee shirt. As I said, I will collect, edit, re-write where needed, absorb any publishing cost and make it available to the NSS Bookstore at wholesale cost only. I'll not make a dime on it. I need cavers to send me their stories, recipes, and any black and white drawings that might go along with the contribution. Can you send along a story? Or refer me along to someone that might submit something? Thanks Bryant Betsill Nicht durch Zorn, sondern durch Lachen tötet man. Not by wrath does one kill, but by laughter. Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra If you can't say something nice, come and sit by me. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi! News: http://olimp-club.com/egn/br-news.php Bill Stephens ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Has anyone out there used radio controlled model drones with a Go-Pro video camera to photograph big pits and/or big cave rooms? I have looked into this a little and a Quad-drone with four electric engines, around 16 inches in diameter, 12 minute flight time, costs around $450. The camera is another $400 or so. A Quad-drone with a 30 minute flight time cost about $900. In Huntsville, AL there is a RC Hobby store that is loaded with this stuff. The store is on Meridian St., 1/2 mile north of Lee High School where the NSS sessions will be during the July convention. The latest Outside magazine sparked this interest. Preston in Browder, KY---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I keep waiting for someone to ask permission to do this in Punkin On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Preston Forsythe wrote:
[Texascavers] Cave Entrance Photography with a Drone
We have done a lot of drone videography for cave films. The big issue is wind and hidden obstructions. Big entrances tend to have all sorts of funky drafts and flying a drone, not matter how experienced, can be tricky in drafty environments. Also, as the drone gets more distant from the operator, it is hard to see tiny dangers (like vines). As a final note, we have had experience with a motor shutting down due to high moisture. When that happens the entire thing goes into a fatal spin. One of my goals is to light a huge room and film from above, but the landing and orientation lights are bright enough to cause some unwanted tint. If anyone wants to team up and play, I am happy to bring mine out. I have a 6 rotor unit with an optically stabilized UHD video capture system. We are also acquiring an oversized 8 channel unit for use with our RED Scarlet since shooting at 200 fps is very helpful for those epic shots. Note: big drones can slice up caves, just like they can slice up drone operators. Fly safe and soft. A camera on a stick or below a balloon is a heck of a lot safer (and cheaper) than a drone. Greg www.passmorelab.com P.S. Thanks Logan McNatt for pointing out this thread. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Cave Entrance Photography with a Drone
I keep waiting for someone to ask permission to do this in Punkin On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Preston Forsythe wrote: Has anyone out there used radio controlled model drones with a Go-Pro video camera to photograph big pits and/or big cave rooms? I have looked into this a little and a Quad-drone with four electric engines, around 16 inches in diameter, 12 minute flight time, costs around $450. The camera is another $400 or so. A Quad-drone with a 30 minute flight time cost about $900. In Huntsville, AL there is a RC Hobby store that is loaded with this stuff. The store is on Meridian St., 1/2 mile north of Lee High School where the NSS sessions will be during the July convention. The latest Outside magazine sparked this interest. Preston in Browder, KY
Re: [Texascavers] Cave Entrance Photography with a Drone
Try it. Sent cellularly. -Don On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: It is easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission ;-) From: Arburn Don [mailto:donarb...@me.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:49 AM To: TSA Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cave Entrance Photography with a Drone I keep waiting for someone to ask permission to do this in Punkin On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Preston Forsythe wrote: Has anyone out there used radio controlled model drones with a Go-Pro video camera to photograph big pits and/or big cave rooms? I have looked into this a little and a Quad-drone with four electric engines, around 16 inches in diameter, 12 minute flight time, costs around $450. The camera is another $400 or so. A Quad-drone with a 30 minute flight time cost about $900. In Huntsville, AL there is a RC Hobby store that is loaded with this stuff. The store is on Meridian St., 1/2 mile north of Lee High School where the NSS sessions will be during the July convention. The latest Outside magazine sparked this interest. Preston in Browder, KY -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782
[Texascavers] Re: Cave Entrance Photography with a Drone
Might not be legal in Texas... http://www.texasmonthly.com/daily-post/texass-drone-law-pretty-much-opposite-every-other-states-drone-law http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2013-02/privacy-and-drones -Robert - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Cave Entrance Photography with a Drone
Preston, my son Steve has looked into doing this and has at least one quadcopter with a GoPro on it that he has footage from flying topside. He is working on a visual reality version with goggles that lets you have a view from the flying copter, but so far is not happy enough with the performance (range) to trust it in a cave. You would need extra battery capability to provide LED lighting, and his current Ver. 1 GoPro doesn't have sufficient light sensitivity to do the job in a dark cave. Sure, the off-the-shelf units can work fine if line-of-sight above ground. My Ver 2 GoPro has slightly better light sensitivity, but the $400 GoPro3+ might just do the job. It is slightly lighter than the earlier versions and they claim is more sensitive. So, before you go buy a copter and a camera, look for someone that already flies a quadcopter and talk them into helping. - Pete On Mar 31, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Preston Forsythe wrote: Has anyone out there used radio controlled model drones with a Go-Pro video camera to photograph big pits and/or big cave rooms? I have looked into this a little and a Quad-drone with four electric engines, around 16 inches in diameter, 12 minute flight time, costs around $450. The camera is another $400 or so. A Quad-drone with a 30 minute flight time cost about $900. In Huntsville, AL there is a RC Hobby store that is loaded with this stuff. The store is on Meridian St., 1/2 mile north of Lee High School where the NSS sessions will be during the July convention. The latest Outside magazine sparked this interest. Preston in Browder, KY
