[Texascavers] Party in honor of Jill today (Sunday) at 4 pm at the Schindel's

2014-04-27 Thread Geary Schindel
Folks,


Just a reminder that we're having a party in honor of Jill Orr leaving for the 
socialist wonderland of France in a few days. The party starts at 4 pm at the 
Schindel's house. This is a pot luck and we have meat for the grill along with 
some adult and non-adult beverages. Bring something to go along if you like. 
Please don't spice your dish using the new Colorado State Herb.


In light of the party and by popular demand from previous party goers, we are 
suspending the rule regarding getting on the roof for this one special 
occasion. I warn you that a metal roof and pollen is a pretty slick combination 
so we may have a contest to see who can stay on the roof the longest (bring 
your first aid kits, crutches and SAM splints).


In addition, there may be some Dutch Oven Dessert Debauchery this evening and 
Sue and Aspen have made some Creme De menthe brownies (which are always 
outstanding). Hope you can make it to this most outstanding Fiesta Social Event 
of the year.


Call for directions if you need them.


Geary

210.479.2151 home

210.326.1576 cell


texascavers Digest 27 Apr 2014 16:15:55 -0000 Issue 1968

2014-04-27 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 27 Apr 2014 16:15:55 - Issue 1968

Topics (messages 23728 through 23735):

Re: Mexican vigilantes search caves for cartel leader
23728 by: Logan McNatt

Arteaga, Michoac�n
23729 by: Mixon Bill
23730 by: Fofo

Party on Sunday, at Schindel's house at 4 pm
23731 by: Geary Schindel

Re: for a caver in south Dallas
23732 by: Mike Flannigan

TCMA auction
23733 by: Jim Kennedy
23734 by: Aimee Beveridge

Party in honor of Jill today (Sunday) at 4 pm at the Schindel's
23735 by: Geary Schindel

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Jerry,  Thanks for sending that.

Bill, any info in the AMCS files on caves in that area?

Logan


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No, Logan, AMCS (or at least I) doesn't know anything about caves near  
Arteaga, Michoacán. The caves we know about in Michoacán are farther  
north, near the Colima border. It is now possible for anyone to search  
for most AMCS information on the web:


maps of caves in Michoacán:
http://www.mexicancaves.org/maps/Mich.html

indexes to Activities Newsletters 1-15 and 16-25:
http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/1-15-index.html
http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/16-25-index.html

paper archives
http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/archives.html

Et cetera.

I also asked the global index of everything on my Mac. Arteaga,  
Coahuila, keeps popping up, but that's pretty much it. -- Mixon



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Thank you Bill.

I was wondering, since I haven't heard about caves in that area either.

I just checked the geologic map of Mexico and right at Artega, 
Michoacan, it's all granite, but there appears to be some limestone 
relatively close, maybe it's there that the caves are.


And maybe because of the issues in the area no cavers have checked them.

Or maybe it's like in other areas where a talus cave or shelter is the 
bottomless cave or the one where gold was hidden in the Revolution 
time and is still there, but whoever finds it has to take it ALL out at 
once, or nothing at all.


- Fofo



On 25/04/14 07:25, Mixon Bill wrote:

No, Logan, AMCS (or at least I) doesn't know anything about caves near
Arteaga, Michoac�n. The caves we know about in Michoac�n are farther
north, near the Colima border. It is now possible for anyone to search
for most AMCS information on the web:

maps of caves in Michoac�n:
http://www.mexicancaves.org/maps/Mich.html

indexes to Activities Newsletters 1-15 and 16-25:
http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/1-15-index.html
http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/16-25-index.html

paper archives
http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/archives.html

Et cetera.

I also asked the global index of everything on my Mac. Arteaga,
Coahuila, keeps popping up, but that's pretty much it. -- Mixon


Work is the curse of the drinking class.

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Jill Orr is leaving town for a few months and heading to Europe. We're going to 
throw a party in her honor at our house on Sunday around 4 pm and dinner around 
5. We'll have the grill going and will be providing burgers and dogs. This will 
be a pot luck so if folks want to bring a dish, it would be appreciated. we'll 
have a cooler with some adult refreshments. Dress if formal unless you want to 
be comfortable, than wear whatever you want.


Can someone repost this to the Bexar Grotto email list. Everyone is welcome.


Address is 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio, Texas 78230. Home phone is 
210.479.2151.


Thanks,


Geary
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A map of that area:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=32.71593,+-96.88913+%28Coordinates%29iwloc=Ahl=en
Go to satellite view (lower left).

That creek has almost been obliterated by development,
but that small section you pinpoint still exists.


Mike


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When I 

[SWR] Registration deadline: International Workshop on Ice Caves

2014-04-27 Thread George Veni
Dear Friends,

Registration for the 6th International Workshop on Ice Caves (IWIC-VI) is open 
but the time for discount registration ends this week. Prices go up on 
Saturday, May 3rd! You can registration either on-line or by mail-in forms at 
http://www.iwic-vi.org/.

Remember, IWIC registration includes the cost of all lunches and dinners to 
maximize the time everyone is learning, working, and playing together. If you 
stay at the conference hotel, your breakfast is included with your room fee.

The conference will focus on all aspects of study involving caves with ice 
deposits and caves formed in ice, including paleoclimatology, cave 
microclimates, hydrology and crystallography, modern and paleo fauna, among 
other topics.

IWIC-VI is hosted by the US National Cave and Karst Research Institute, with 
generous cooperation from members of the US National Speleological Society, and 
is a conference series of the International Union of Speleology's Commission on 
Glacier, Firn, and Ice Caves.

If you have any questions, please let me know. Also, please share this message 
with anyone who may be interested.

George

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texascavers Digest 28 Apr 2014 03:58:00 -0000 Issue 1969

2014-04-27 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 28 Apr 2014 03:58:00 - Issue 1969

Topics (messages 23736 through 23740):

Re: TSA Speaker Schedule
23736 by: Mallory Mayeux

Re: Party in honor of Jill today (Sunday) at 4 pm at the Schindel's
23737 by: caverarch

TSA Spring Convention, General Agenda
23738 by: caverarch

Registration deadline: International Workshop on Ice Caves
23739 by: George Veni

Colorado Bend Cave Guide Training
23740 by: Kris Pena

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Good morning cavers!

 I hope you're getting all your weekend chores done around the house for
this weekend and next, because next weekend is the TSA Spring Convention
and I hope to see all of you there!

The convention begins Friday evening, May 2 at Cave without a Name in
Boerne and ends on Sunday, May 4. The informational talks are held INSIDE
the cave on May 3. The lineup is awesome and listed below.


9 AM
Bill Steele
2014 Huautla Expedition

Bill spent for the month of April in Huautla, and will be presenting their
discoveries and achievements. Cavers from five countries (USA, Canada,
Mexico, Australia, Romania), explored the cave, carried The Explorers Club
flag, and were an official project of the NSS.


9:35 AM
Ernie Garza and Gill Edigar
Kiwi Sink

An introduction to the discovery and subsequent digging into Kiwi Sink.
First, we used a loader/backhoe until it got too deep, then used hand
digging to fill up barrels to be winched up. We found some real cave as a
result, the cave dig continues.



10 AM
Peter Sprouse
The Jaguar Paw System: a new mega-maze in Quintana Roo

Cavers of the Paamul Grotto cut a jungle trail through a long segment of
collapsed cave passage. With over 15 km mapped so far in multiple segments,
the full extent of this system won't be known for years.

BREAK


10:40 AM
Ron Ralph
The Texas Speleological Survey: Over 50 Years


11 AM
Ellie Watson, Dr. Jean Krecja, and Joe Furman
See My Shovel Tank Haul Trifecta Fest

A video presentation about the ongoing cave diving efforts in See My Shovel
Cave (CM Cave). Cavers gathered for 3 weekends in a row to haul dive gear
for divers Dr. Jean Krecja and James Brown.



11:45-1:30 GROUP PHOTO AND LUNCH BREAK


1:30 PM

Jim Kennedy
Recent LIDAR Mapping of Some Major Texas Bat Caves

The latest accomplishment in our continued research into the large Mexican
free-tailed bat roosts of central Texas has been the detailed LIDAR mapping
spearheaded by Dr. Nicolay Hristov of the Center for Design Innovation at
Winston-Salem State University.  To date, Bracken Bat Cave, James River Bat
Cave, Davis Blowout Cave, and Ney Cave are mostly completed.  We’ll show
samples of the scans, compare them to the old-school paper maps, and
discuss the conservation and research potential of this project, including
our future plans.


1:50 PM
Bill Steele
Golondrinas climbing video

A 10 minute video done by Italian cavers about a direct aid climb out of
Sotano de las Golondrinas, up the wall, from the floor to the entrance and
out—an amazing feat. This will be the first showing of this video in the US!


2:05 PM
Matt Turner
My First Year of Cave Diving
A talk about what it's like to go from caving to cave diving and things
Matt has learned along the way.


2:30
K. Lindsay Eaves
Caving Contributions to the 'Cradle of Humankind.'
A brief overview and discussion of the contributions of caving to the
discovery of early hominid fossils within the Rising Star Cave System
within South Africa's Cradle of Humankind. This is part of an ongoing
excavation deep within the system that began in November 2013 through the
joint auspices of the University of the Witwatersrand and National
Geographic Society.


BREAK


3:00 PM
Chuck Noe
Goodenough - Exploring the Depths of a Prolific Texas Spring
Hear a brief history of this underwater tributary of the Rio Grande, and
experience the tale of its record-setting deep exploration by the GSEP
(Goodenough Springs Exploration Project). Learn about the GSEP's ongoing
research project to identify the origin of Goodenough's water source. Dive
team members will be available after the presentation to answer questions
and provide further information.



3:30 PM
Monica Ponce
Bustamante cave exploration ACEAC2014
A talk about the results of exploration in Bustamante cave. With 9 trips in
one year, exploration of the cave is slow but very detail oriented. The
cavers have discovered many small entrance pits under the floor of the
paso de la muerte area. They are close to finishing planned exploration
but need help to do the survey, since the Tourism Secretary of Nuevo Leon
has new projects to do inside of this cave.


Again, this 

[Texascavers] Fwd: TSA Speaker Schedule

2014-04-27 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Good morning cavers!

 I hope you're getting all your weekend chores done around the house for
this weekend and next, because next weekend is the TSA Spring Convention
and I hope to see all of you there!

The convention begins Friday evening, May 2 at Cave without a Name in
Boerne and ends on Sunday, May 4. The informational talks are held INSIDE
the cave on May 3. The lineup is awesome and listed below.


9 AM
Bill Steele
2014 Huautla Expedition

Bill spent for the month of April in Huautla, and will be presenting their
discoveries and achievements. Cavers from five countries (USA, Canada,
Mexico, Australia, Romania), explored the cave, carried The Explorers Club
flag, and were an official project of the NSS.


9:35 AM
Ernie Garza and Gill Edigar
Kiwi Sink

An introduction to the discovery and subsequent digging into Kiwi Sink.
First, we used a loader/backhoe until it got too deep, then used hand
digging to fill up barrels to be winched up. We found some real cave as a
result, the cave dig continues.



10 AM
Peter Sprouse
The Jaguar Paw System: a new mega-maze in Quintana Roo

Cavers of the Paamul Grotto cut a jungle trail through a long segment of
collapsed cave passage. With over 15 km mapped so far in multiple segments,
the full extent of this system won't be known for years.

BREAK


10:40 AM
Ron Ralph
The Texas Speleological Survey: Over 50 Years


11 AM
Ellie Watson, Dr. Jean Krecja, and Joe Furman
See My Shovel Tank Haul Trifecta Fest

A video presentation about the ongoing cave diving efforts in See My Shovel
Cave (CM Cave). Cavers gathered for 3 weekends in a row to haul dive gear
for divers Dr. Jean Krecja and James Brown.



11:45-1:30 GROUP PHOTO AND LUNCH BREAK


1:30 PM

Jim Kennedy
Recent LIDAR Mapping of Some Major Texas Bat Caves

The latest accomplishment in our continued research into the large Mexican
free-tailed bat roosts of central Texas has been the detailed LIDAR mapping
spearheaded by Dr. Nicolay Hristov of the Center for Design Innovation at
Winston-Salem State University.  To date, Bracken Bat Cave, James River Bat
Cave, Davis Blowout Cave, and Ney Cave are mostly completed.  We’ll show
samples of the scans, compare them to the old-school paper maps, and
discuss the conservation and research potential of this project, including
our future plans.


1:50 PM
Bill Steele
Golondrinas climbing video

A 10 minute video done by Italian cavers about a direct aid climb out of
Sotano de las Golondrinas, up the wall, from the floor to the entrance and
out—an amazing feat. This will be the first showing of this video in the US!


2:05 PM
Matt Turner
My First Year of Cave Diving
A talk about what it's like to go from caving to cave diving and things
Matt has learned along the way.


2:30
K. Lindsay Eaves
Caving Contributions to the 'Cradle of Humankind.'
A brief overview and discussion of the contributions of caving to the
discovery of early hominid fossils within the Rising Star Cave System
within South Africa's Cradle of Humankind. This is part of an ongoing
excavation deep within the system that began in November 2013 through the
joint auspices of the University of the Witwatersrand and National
Geographic Society.


BREAK


3:00 PM
Chuck Noe
Goodenough - Exploring the Depths of a Prolific Texas Spring
Hear a brief history of this underwater tributary of the Rio Grande, and
experience the tale of its record-setting deep exploration by the GSEP
(Goodenough Springs Exploration Project). Learn about the GSEP's ongoing
research project to identify the origin of Goodenough's water source. Dive
team members will be available after the presentation to answer questions
and provide further information.



3:30 PM
Monica Ponce
Bustamante cave exploration ACEAC2014
A talk about the results of exploration in Bustamante cave. With 9 trips in
one year, exploration of the cave is slow but very detail oriented. The
cavers have discovered many small entrance pits under the floor of the
paso de la muerte area. They are close to finishing planned exploration
but need help to do the survey, since the Tourism Secretary of Nuevo Leon
has new projects to do inside of this cave.


Again, this should be a great convention. Roger Moore, with the support of
cave owner Tom Summers, has arranged for great parties (a band on Saturday,
a musical party on Friday night) and we will have all the usual fun stuff
(the big feed, kegs of Shiner, the TCMA auction, vertical troubleshooting
courtesy of GGG and David Ochel, etc).


I can't wait to see you all next weekend!


Mallory Mayeux

TSA Convention Speaker Coordinator


[Texascavers] Colorado Bend Cave Guide Training

2014-04-27 Thread Kris Pena
For those of you interested in helping lead the Wild Cave Tours at Colorado
Bend, the park is holding some guide training sessions in the next few
weeks.  They're also particularly interested in finding guides to help lead
Wild Cave Tours for National Trails Day on June 7.  Will and I have both
done the training and have already led a tour in the park. We're also
signed up to help with National Trails Day. Contact Jason Hairston (details
below) at Colorado Bend if you're interested.

Kris



*From:* Jason Hairston
*Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 12:25 PM
*To:* 'ace1...@hotmail.com'; 'annebe...@yahoo.com'; 'amomen...@live.com'; '
denisebyr...@att.net'; 'wtcoll...@netzero.com'; 'alaskatruckg...@gmail.com'
*Cc:* alvisd...@aol.com; Carolyn O'Connor; Tyler Cook (
cook.ty...@sbcglobal.net)
*Subject:* cave tour guides



You recently expressed interest in upcoming opportunities at Colorado Bend
State Park focused on leading Wild Cave Tours.

We are excited about the potential to partner with you.



To jump start this process, we would like to have you come out in the near
future.  During your visit, we will discuss expectations of volunteers, the
TPWD mission, the cave tour activity, and many more topics that are
important for leading visitors on a cave tour.  In addition, we will do
some caving in our tour caves to give you an idea of what to expect.  We
are expecting a busy spring and have multiple opportunities for you to
experience a Wild Cave Tour.



Please choose one or more of the following dates and let me know when you
want to visit.

You will shadow a public tours to start at these times – plan to arrive
early to go over other orientation items.



*Saturday, April 26 at 10:00 am*

*Saturday, May 3 at 2:00 pm*

*Saturday, May 17 at 10:00 am*



You can reference our event calendar to view schedule -
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/state-parks/colorado-bend/park_events





Right now, I would like to determine if you are still interested in being a
part of our team.  If so, let me know if you would be able to make it to
the park for an orientation day.

Also, I would appreciate it if you could take a few minutes to provide
answers to the following questions:



· What days of the week you will typically be available?

· How many days per month (or per year)?

· Brief description of your caving experience.

· Why are you interested in this opportunity?

· Have you visited Colorado Bend before?





For your reference the posted job description found online is included
below:



*Title: *

2014 - Cave Tour
Guidehttps://ec.volunteernow.com/recruiter/index.php?recruiterID=1353class=OppDetailsoppGuid=%7b06230AFC-CCFA-420C-BB5E-79D6FEC04FAD%7d

*Location: *

P O Box 118, Bend,TX

*Program: *

Colorado Bend State Park

*Contact:*

Jason Hairston (325) 628-3240

*Description: *

Are you ready for an underground adventure?

We are looking for motivated individuals to assist the park in giving Wild
Cave Tours to visitors.

No caving experience necessary.
We will train you in caving techniques and safety. You will be provided
interpretive materials related to geology, history, caving exploration, and
other essential knowledge to fully prepare you to give a memorable cave
tour.

You will have an opportunity to shadow an experienced guide until you are
ready to lead a tour. An official cave tour handbook will be provided to
help you prepare a program. But you will be given the freedom to make the
cave tour your own.

Some caves require you to work in confined spaces.

Whether you can come out once a year, or once a month, we would love to
have you on our team. Cave tours are primarily on weekends.

Please contact the park with any questions or concerns about this rewarding
opportunity.

Criminal background check required.





I look forward to your response.  Please let me know if you have any
questions or concerns.



Regards,



*Jason Hairston*

Park Ranger

*Interpretation / Resource Management / Volunteers*



Colorado Bend State Park

PO Box 118

Bend, TX 76824

(325) 628-3240

jason.hairs...@tpwd.texas.gov



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