[Texascavers] Party in honor of Jill today (Sunday) at 4 pm at the Schindel's
Folks, Just a reminder that we're having a party in honor of Jill Orr leaving for the socialist wonderland of France in a few days. The party starts at 4 pm at the Schindel's house. This is a pot luck and we have meat for the grill along with some adult and non-adult beverages. Bring something to go along if you like. Please don't spice your dish using the new Colorado State Herb. In light of the party and by popular demand from previous party goers, we are suspending the rule regarding getting on the roof for this one special occasion. I warn you that a metal roof and pollen is a pretty slick combination so we may have a contest to see who can stay on the roof the longest (bring your first aid kits, crutches and SAM splints). In addition, there may be some Dutch Oven Dessert Debauchery this evening and Sue and Aspen have made some Creme De menthe brownies (which are always outstanding). Hope you can make it to this most outstanding Fiesta Social Event of the year. Call for directions if you need them. Geary 210.479.2151 home 210.326.1576 cell
texascavers Digest 27 Apr 2014 16:15:55 -0000 Issue 1968
texascavers Digest 27 Apr 2014 16:15:55 - Issue 1968 Topics (messages 23728 through 23735): Re: Mexican vigilantes search caves for cartel leader 23728 by: Logan McNatt Arteaga, Michoac�n 23729 by: Mixon Bill 23730 by: Fofo Party on Sunday, at Schindel's house at 4 pm 23731 by: Geary Schindel Re: for a caver in south Dallas 23732 by: Mike Flannigan TCMA auction 23733 by: Jim Kennedy 23734 by: Aimee Beveridge Party in honor of Jill today (Sunday) at 4 pm at the Schindel's 23735 by: Geary Schindel Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Jerry, Thanks for sending that. Bill, any info in the AMCS files on caves in that area? Logan ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- No, Logan, AMCS (or at least I) doesn't know anything about caves near Arteaga, Michoacán. The caves we know about in Michoacán are farther north, near the Colima border. It is now possible for anyone to search for most AMCS information on the web: maps of caves in Michoacán: http://www.mexicancaves.org/maps/Mich.html indexes to Activities Newsletters 1-15 and 16-25: http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/1-15-index.html http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/16-25-index.html paper archives http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/archives.html Et cetera. I also asked the global index of everything on my Mac. Arteaga, Coahuila, keeps popping up, but that's pretty much it. -- Mixon Work is the curse of the drinking class. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Thank you Bill. I was wondering, since I haven't heard about caves in that area either. I just checked the geologic map of Mexico and right at Artega, Michoacan, it's all granite, but there appears to be some limestone relatively close, maybe it's there that the caves are. And maybe because of the issues in the area no cavers have checked them. Or maybe it's like in other areas where a talus cave or shelter is the bottomless cave or the one where gold was hidden in the Revolution time and is still there, but whoever finds it has to take it ALL out at once, or nothing at all. - Fofo On 25/04/14 07:25, Mixon Bill wrote: No, Logan, AMCS (or at least I) doesn't know anything about caves near Arteaga, Michoac�n. The caves we know about in Michoac�n are farther north, near the Colima border. It is now possible for anyone to search for most AMCS information on the web: maps of caves in Michoac�n: http://www.mexicancaves.org/maps/Mich.html indexes to Activities Newsletters 1-15 and 16-25: http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/1-15-index.html http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/16-25-index.html paper archives http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/archives.html Et cetera. I also asked the global index of everything on my Mac. Arteaga, Coahuila, keeps popping up, but that's pretty much it. -- Mixon Work is the curse of the drinking class. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Jill Orr is leaving town for a few months and heading to Europe. We're going to throw a party in her honor at our house on Sunday around 4 pm and dinner around 5. We'll have the grill going and will be providing burgers and dogs. This will be a pot luck so if folks want to bring a dish, it would be appreciated. we'll have a cooler with some adult refreshments. Dress if formal unless you want to be comfortable, than wear whatever you want. Can someone repost this to the Bexar Grotto email list. Everyone is welcome. Address is 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio, Texas 78230. Home phone is 210.479.2151. Thanks, Geary ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- A map of that area: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=32.71593,+-96.88913+%28Coordinates%29iwloc=Ahl=en Go to satellite view (lower left). That creek has almost been obliterated by development, but that small section you pinpoint still exists. Mike On 4/22/2014 12:33 PM, texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com wrote: When I
[SWR] Registration deadline: International Workshop on Ice Caves
Dear Friends, Registration for the 6th International Workshop on Ice Caves (IWIC-VI) is open but the time for discount registration ends this week. Prices go up on Saturday, May 3rd! You can registration either on-line or by mail-in forms at http://www.iwic-vi.org/. Remember, IWIC registration includes the cost of all lunches and dinners to maximize the time everyone is learning, working, and playing together. If you stay at the conference hotel, your breakfast is included with your room fee. The conference will focus on all aspects of study involving caves with ice deposits and caves formed in ice, including paleoclimatology, cave microclimates, hydrology and crystallography, modern and paleo fauna, among other topics. IWIC-VI is hosted by the US National Cave and Karst Research Institute, with generous cooperation from members of the US National Speleological Society, and is a conference series of the International Union of Speleology's Commission on Glacier, Firn, and Ice Caves. If you have any questions, please let me know. Also, please share this message with anyone who may be interested. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.orgmailto:gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.orghttp://www.nckri.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
texascavers Digest 28 Apr 2014 03:58:00 -0000 Issue 1969
texascavers Digest 28 Apr 2014 03:58:00 - Issue 1969 Topics (messages 23736 through 23740): Re: TSA Speaker Schedule 23736 by: Mallory Mayeux Re: Party in honor of Jill today (Sunday) at 4 pm at the Schindel's 23737 by: caverarch TSA Spring Convention, General Agenda 23738 by: caverarch Registration deadline: International Workshop on Ice Caves 23739 by: George Veni Colorado Bend Cave Guide Training 23740 by: Kris Pena Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Good morning cavers! I hope you're getting all your weekend chores done around the house for this weekend and next, because next weekend is the TSA Spring Convention and I hope to see all of you there! The convention begins Friday evening, May 2 at Cave without a Name in Boerne and ends on Sunday, May 4. The informational talks are held INSIDE the cave on May 3. The lineup is awesome and listed below. 9 AM Bill Steele 2014 Huautla Expedition Bill spent for the month of April in Huautla, and will be presenting their discoveries and achievements. Cavers from five countries (USA, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Romania), explored the cave, carried The Explorers Club flag, and were an official project of the NSS. 9:35 AM Ernie Garza and Gill Edigar Kiwi Sink An introduction to the discovery and subsequent digging into Kiwi Sink. First, we used a loader/backhoe until it got too deep, then used hand digging to fill up barrels to be winched up. We found some real cave as a result, the cave dig continues. 10 AM Peter Sprouse The Jaguar Paw System: a new mega-maze in Quintana Roo Cavers of the Paamul Grotto cut a jungle trail through a long segment of collapsed cave passage. With over 15 km mapped so far in multiple segments, the full extent of this system won't be known for years. BREAK 10:40 AM Ron Ralph The Texas Speleological Survey: Over 50 Years 11 AM Ellie Watson, Dr. Jean Krecja, and Joe Furman See My Shovel Tank Haul Trifecta Fest A video presentation about the ongoing cave diving efforts in See My Shovel Cave (CM Cave). Cavers gathered for 3 weekends in a row to haul dive gear for divers Dr. Jean Krecja and James Brown. 11:45-1:30 GROUP PHOTO AND LUNCH BREAK 1:30 PM Jim Kennedy Recent LIDAR Mapping of Some Major Texas Bat Caves The latest accomplishment in our continued research into the large Mexican free-tailed bat roosts of central Texas has been the detailed LIDAR mapping spearheaded by Dr. Nicolay Hristov of the Center for Design Innovation at Winston-Salem State University. To date, Bracken Bat Cave, James River Bat Cave, Davis Blowout Cave, and Ney Cave are mostly completed. We’ll show samples of the scans, compare them to the old-school paper maps, and discuss the conservation and research potential of this project, including our future plans. 1:50 PM Bill Steele Golondrinas climbing video A 10 minute video done by Italian cavers about a direct aid climb out of Sotano de las Golondrinas, up the wall, from the floor to the entrance and out—an amazing feat. This will be the first showing of this video in the US! 2:05 PM Matt Turner My First Year of Cave Diving A talk about what it's like to go from caving to cave diving and things Matt has learned along the way. 2:30 K. Lindsay Eaves Caving Contributions to the 'Cradle of Humankind.' A brief overview and discussion of the contributions of caving to the discovery of early hominid fossils within the Rising Star Cave System within South Africa's Cradle of Humankind. This is part of an ongoing excavation deep within the system that began in November 2013 through the joint auspices of the University of the Witwatersrand and National Geographic Society. BREAK 3:00 PM Chuck Noe Goodenough - Exploring the Depths of a Prolific Texas Spring Hear a brief history of this underwater tributary of the Rio Grande, and experience the tale of its record-setting deep exploration by the GSEP (Goodenough Springs Exploration Project). Learn about the GSEP's ongoing research project to identify the origin of Goodenough's water source. Dive team members will be available after the presentation to answer questions and provide further information. 3:30 PM Monica Ponce Bustamante cave exploration ACEAC2014 A talk about the results of exploration in Bustamante cave. With 9 trips in one year, exploration of the cave is slow but very detail oriented. The cavers have discovered many small entrance pits under the floor of the paso de la muerte area. They are close to finishing planned exploration but need help to do the survey, since the Tourism Secretary of Nuevo Leon has new projects to do inside of this cave. Again, this
[Texascavers] Fwd: TSA Speaker Schedule
Good morning cavers! I hope you're getting all your weekend chores done around the house for this weekend and next, because next weekend is the TSA Spring Convention and I hope to see all of you there! The convention begins Friday evening, May 2 at Cave without a Name in Boerne and ends on Sunday, May 4. The informational talks are held INSIDE the cave on May 3. The lineup is awesome and listed below. 9 AM Bill Steele 2014 Huautla Expedition Bill spent for the month of April in Huautla, and will be presenting their discoveries and achievements. Cavers from five countries (USA, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Romania), explored the cave, carried The Explorers Club flag, and were an official project of the NSS. 9:35 AM Ernie Garza and Gill Edigar Kiwi Sink An introduction to the discovery and subsequent digging into Kiwi Sink. First, we used a loader/backhoe until it got too deep, then used hand digging to fill up barrels to be winched up. We found some real cave as a result, the cave dig continues. 10 AM Peter Sprouse The Jaguar Paw System: a new mega-maze in Quintana Roo Cavers of the Paamul Grotto cut a jungle trail through a long segment of collapsed cave passage. With over 15 km mapped so far in multiple segments, the full extent of this system won't be known for years. BREAK 10:40 AM Ron Ralph The Texas Speleological Survey: Over 50 Years 11 AM Ellie Watson, Dr. Jean Krecja, and Joe Furman See My Shovel Tank Haul Trifecta Fest A video presentation about the ongoing cave diving efforts in See My Shovel Cave (CM Cave). Cavers gathered for 3 weekends in a row to haul dive gear for divers Dr. Jean Krecja and James Brown. 11:45-1:30 GROUP PHOTO AND LUNCH BREAK 1:30 PM Jim Kennedy Recent LIDAR Mapping of Some Major Texas Bat Caves The latest accomplishment in our continued research into the large Mexican free-tailed bat roosts of central Texas has been the detailed LIDAR mapping spearheaded by Dr. Nicolay Hristov of the Center for Design Innovation at Winston-Salem State University. To date, Bracken Bat Cave, James River Bat Cave, Davis Blowout Cave, and Ney Cave are mostly completed. We’ll show samples of the scans, compare them to the old-school paper maps, and discuss the conservation and research potential of this project, including our future plans. 1:50 PM Bill Steele Golondrinas climbing video A 10 minute video done by Italian cavers about a direct aid climb out of Sotano de las Golondrinas, up the wall, from the floor to the entrance and out—an amazing feat. This will be the first showing of this video in the US! 2:05 PM Matt Turner My First Year of Cave Diving A talk about what it's like to go from caving to cave diving and things Matt has learned along the way. 2:30 K. Lindsay Eaves Caving Contributions to the 'Cradle of Humankind.' A brief overview and discussion of the contributions of caving to the discovery of early hominid fossils within the Rising Star Cave System within South Africa's Cradle of Humankind. This is part of an ongoing excavation deep within the system that began in November 2013 through the joint auspices of the University of the Witwatersrand and National Geographic Society. BREAK 3:00 PM Chuck Noe Goodenough - Exploring the Depths of a Prolific Texas Spring Hear a brief history of this underwater tributary of the Rio Grande, and experience the tale of its record-setting deep exploration by the GSEP (Goodenough Springs Exploration Project). Learn about the GSEP's ongoing research project to identify the origin of Goodenough's water source. Dive team members will be available after the presentation to answer questions and provide further information. 3:30 PM Monica Ponce Bustamante cave exploration ACEAC2014 A talk about the results of exploration in Bustamante cave. With 9 trips in one year, exploration of the cave is slow but very detail oriented. The cavers have discovered many small entrance pits under the floor of the paso de la muerte area. They are close to finishing planned exploration but need help to do the survey, since the Tourism Secretary of Nuevo Leon has new projects to do inside of this cave. Again, this should be a great convention. Roger Moore, with the support of cave owner Tom Summers, has arranged for great parties (a band on Saturday, a musical party on Friday night) and we will have all the usual fun stuff (the big feed, kegs of Shiner, the TCMA auction, vertical troubleshooting courtesy of GGG and David Ochel, etc). I can't wait to see you all next weekend! Mallory Mayeux TSA Convention Speaker Coordinator
[Texascavers] Colorado Bend Cave Guide Training
For those of you interested in helping lead the Wild Cave Tours at Colorado Bend, the park is holding some guide training sessions in the next few weeks. They're also particularly interested in finding guides to help lead Wild Cave Tours for National Trails Day on June 7. Will and I have both done the training and have already led a tour in the park. We're also signed up to help with National Trails Day. Contact Jason Hairston (details below) at Colorado Bend if you're interested. Kris *From:* Jason Hairston *Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 12:25 PM *To:* 'ace1...@hotmail.com'; 'annebe...@yahoo.com'; 'amomen...@live.com'; ' denisebyr...@att.net'; 'wtcoll...@netzero.com'; 'alaskatruckg...@gmail.com' *Cc:* alvisd...@aol.com; Carolyn O'Connor; Tyler Cook ( cook.ty...@sbcglobal.net) *Subject:* cave tour guides You recently expressed interest in upcoming opportunities at Colorado Bend State Park focused on leading Wild Cave Tours. We are excited about the potential to partner with you. To jump start this process, we would like to have you come out in the near future. During your visit, we will discuss expectations of volunteers, the TPWD mission, the cave tour activity, and many more topics that are important for leading visitors on a cave tour. In addition, we will do some caving in our tour caves to give you an idea of what to expect. We are expecting a busy spring and have multiple opportunities for you to experience a Wild Cave Tour. Please choose one or more of the following dates and let me know when you want to visit. You will shadow a public tours to start at these times – plan to arrive early to go over other orientation items. *Saturday, April 26 at 10:00 am* *Saturday, May 3 at 2:00 pm* *Saturday, May 17 at 10:00 am* You can reference our event calendar to view schedule - http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/state-parks/colorado-bend/park_events Right now, I would like to determine if you are still interested in being a part of our team. If so, let me know if you would be able to make it to the park for an orientation day. Also, I would appreciate it if you could take a few minutes to provide answers to the following questions: · What days of the week you will typically be available? · How many days per month (or per year)? · Brief description of your caving experience. · Why are you interested in this opportunity? · Have you visited Colorado Bend before? For your reference the posted job description found online is included below: *Title: * 2014 - Cave Tour Guidehttps://ec.volunteernow.com/recruiter/index.php?recruiterID=1353class=OppDetailsoppGuid=%7b06230AFC-CCFA-420C-BB5E-79D6FEC04FAD%7d *Location: * P O Box 118, Bend,TX *Program: * Colorado Bend State Park *Contact:* Jason Hairston (325) 628-3240 *Description: * Are you ready for an underground adventure? We are looking for motivated individuals to assist the park in giving Wild Cave Tours to visitors. No caving experience necessary. We will train you in caving techniques and safety. You will be provided interpretive materials related to geology, history, caving exploration, and other essential knowledge to fully prepare you to give a memorable cave tour. You will have an opportunity to shadow an experienced guide until you are ready to lead a tour. An official cave tour handbook will be provided to help you prepare a program. But you will be given the freedom to make the cave tour your own. Some caves require you to work in confined spaces. Whether you can come out once a year, or once a month, we would love to have you on our team. Cave tours are primarily on weekends. Please contact the park with any questions or concerns about this rewarding opportunity. Criminal background check required. I look forward to your response. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Regards, *Jason Hairston* Park Ranger *Interpretation / Resource Management / Volunteers* Colorado Bend State Park PO Box 118 Bend, TX 76824 (325) 628-3240 jason.hairs...@tpwd.texas.gov [image: Description: cid:image001.gif@01CC329B.2299B480]