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texascavers Digest 23 Jun 2014 16:08:35 -0000 Issue 1998

2014-06-23 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 23 Jun 2014 16:08:35 - Issue 1998

Topics (messages 23970 through 23977):

Re: Kevlar related
23970 by: Kevin McGowan
23974 by: Don Cooper
23976 by: Mark Minton
23977 by: Espeleo Coahuila

Re: Question..
23971 by: Bill Bentley
23972 by: Geary Schindel

Internet related
23973 by: David

Amazing 3-D Tour of a Chinese Supercave
23975 by: Lee H. Skinner

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I use Kevlar for the foot loop on my frog system for years.  I worked great. 

KM 

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 On Jun 21, 2014, at 12:42 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In the news today, it was announced that the chemist credited with the
 discovery of Kevlar,
 has passed away.  Stephanie Kwolek was her name.
 
 Sometime around 1986 or 87, I was taking a materials science course at
 AM and had access to a tensile-test machine.I asked the professor
 if I could test a piece of 5mm Kevlar cord.
 
 I put a figure 8 knot in each end. and tied each end to the steel bar
 connectors.   I think I had about 15 inches between the knots.
 
 It broke in the middle of the upper knot at around 10,000 pounds.
 The professor was
 quite surprised.
 
 I used the cord in my Mitchell System, from my foot to an upper Jumar,
 several times over a 2 year period, on some pits that were under 200
 feet. At the foot attachment, I tied the Kevlar cord into a
 chicken-loop rig, described by James Jasek ( I think ) in a Texas
 Caver in the late 70's or early 80's.   So that the Kevlar cord was
 the only thing holding my foot to the Jumar.   I did not tie the cord
 to the Jumar eye-hole, but wrapped it around the handle and tied it
 off.
 
 While I would not recommend doing that now, I would say the cord is
 light enough to throw in the cave-pack for an emergency or as a
 back-up.
 
 David Locklear
 
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When commercially available kevlar first appeared on the scene, small
kevlar cords were put into use on sport parachutes.  Before even 100 uses,
some jumpers experienced line-breaks.  It was a surprise, as the very thin
kevlar lines were supposed to be over twice the strength of the polyester
lines they replaced.
In the end, I believe the failure was attributed to dirt getting into the
uncoated kevlar cord and setting up deterioration due to abrasion process
at a scale too small to visually observe.



On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com
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 I use Kevlar for the foot loop on my frog system for years.  I worked
 great.

 KM

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  On Jun 21, 2014, at 12:42 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  In the news today, it was announced that the chemist credited with the
  discovery of Kevlar,
  has passed away.  Stephanie Kwolek was her name.
 
  Sometime around 1986 or 87, I was taking a materials science course at
  AM and had access to a tensile-test machine.I asked the professor
  if I could test a piece of 5mm Kevlar cord.
 
  I put a figure 8 knot in each end. and tied each end to the steel bar
  connectors.   I think I had about 15 inches between the knots.
 
  It broke in the middle of the upper knot at around 10,000 pounds.
  The professor was
  quite surprised.
 
  I used the cord in my Mitchell System, from my foot to an upper Jumar,
  several times over a 2 year period, on some pits that were under 200
  feet. At the foot attachment, I tied the Kevlar cord into a
  chicken-loop rig, described by James Jasek ( I think ) in a Texas
  Caver in the late 70's or early 80's.   So that the Kevlar cord was
  the only thing holding my foot to the Jumar.   I did not tie the cord
  to the Jumar eye-hole, but wrapped it around the handle and tied it
  off.
 
  While I would not recommend doing that now, I would say the cord is
  light enough to throw in the cave-pack for an emergency or as a
  back-up.
 
  David Locklear
 
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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Caver's worst nightmare

2014-06-23 Thread Fofo

The Mayor's quote is great:

Tubingen�s mayor told a local newspaper that he struggled to imagine 
how the accident could have happened, �even when considering the most 
extreme adolescent fantasies. To reward such a masterly achievement with 
the use of 22 firefighters almost pains my soul.�



- Fofo



On 23/06/14 10:58, Kurt L. Menking wrote:

Looks to me like the Aggies need to make a new redesigned squeeze box.

Kurt

*From:*Frank Binney [mailto:fr...@frankbinney.com]
*Sent:* Monday, June 23, 2014 12:55 PM
*To:* Texas Cavers
*Subject:* [Texascavers] Caver's worst nightmare

Just learned of another �cave� rescue in Germany: a US student who
became stuck in a stone vagina and had to be extracted by 22 firefighters.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1410029/us-student-gets-stuck-in-vagina-sculpture-rescued-by-22-firefighters/



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