[Texascavers] Not Dead Yet Party Nov 1 at Dave's

2014-09-28 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Peter and his band will play. BYO pot luck. BBQ furnished.
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[Texascavers] Not Dead Yet PArty Nov 1

2014-09-28 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Band and food. Come one come all.

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Re: [Texascavers] Not Dead Yet Party Nov 1 at Dave's

2014-09-28 Thread Ron Ralph via Texascavers
Who is Peter and where is the party?
Ron

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Subject: [Texascavers] Not Dead Yet Party Nov 1 at Dave's


Peter and his band will play. BYO pot luck. BBQ furnished.
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[Texascavers] Apusini Mountains, Romania Part 2

2014-09-28 Thread DirtDoc via Texascavers
24 September 2014

Another post to the group

The Ghejar Karst Plateau is another part of the Western Apusini Mountains of 
central Romania. Underlain by slightly metamorphosed limestone and complexity 
faulted, it is topographically relatively high. Summits over 1,800 meters and 
close to tree line.   To get there we climbed over Vartop pass and discovered a 
mini-Ruidoso(NM).  Two ski lifts and a bunch of winter sports chalets. 

In the town of Garda de Sus we made contact with Ciubo,  the local G. P. at the 
clinic. A life-long caver and photographer, he had made arrangements for us to 
stay at the Pensiunea next to the ice cave, 500 meters above the town. 

Scarisoara Ice Cave contains a thick accumulation of ice that has been cored 
and recently dated beyond 10,500 BP.  The cave is situated in the middle of 
spectacular karstland with multiple sinking streams and a confusing 
subterranean drainage.  Bogan Onac has played an important role in figuring it 
out before coming to the USA. 

Ciubo is a joyful great bear of a man who enthusiasticly explained it all 
---

The next day we left the karst and went to Turda, where a visit to the salt 
mine is a must. The salt has been intruded and is a salt dome,so the exposed 
walls are scenic and interesting. Other than that,   It's a bit hard to 
describe.   Google it. Mined for 2000 years, it finally became noncommercial 
and is now a fascinating underground mine tour crossed with Disney land.  They 
held a big wedding there last weekend. 

On to Sighisoara, Brasov (and the Real Dracula's Castle), Sibiu, and more 
eastern European history. I can report seeing NO Vlad-cicles. (Rhymes with 
popsicles). If that doesn't make sense,  read up on Vlad The Impailer.

Onward---

Dirt Doc



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[Texascavers] China's “Supercave” Takes Title as World's Most Enormous Cavern

2014-09-28 Thread Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers
From National Geographic, a new record for world's biggest cave 
chamber.  And it's in China:


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/09/140927-largest-cave-china-exploration-science/

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Re: [Texascavers] Not Dead Yet Party Nov 1 at Dave's

2014-09-28 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
The band that played last time. Joe Ben played with them. Good band. Party
is at Dave Moriarty's on the Colorado or Red Bluff at the end of Springdale
Road, the house with the old caddy .

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ron Ralph via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

   Who is Peter and where is the party?
 Ron

  *From:* Charles Loving via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

2014-09-28 Thread Carl Kunath via Texascavers
I think we have everything.  Nearly all was included in 50 YEARS.
===Carl (still in Moab)

From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:59 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
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Thanks, Carl. Does TSA have a collection of Helmer's art work?
Fritz

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On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers 
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  Yes, I have been in contact with Bill for many years.
  He does live in Boerne.

  ===Carl (from Moab, Utah)

  From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:27 PM
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

  In the late 1950's when I first became interested in caving, I enjoyed seeing 
Helmer's clever Texas Caver covers and other art work. I don't have them now 
but they were priceless. Hey Carl, do you think he could really be living in 
Boerne?
  Fritz Holt
  fritz...@gmail.com


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  On Sep 21, 2014, at 10:04 PM, David via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:


Joe Pearce mentioned Bill Helmer.That is a name I haven't heard spoke 
of in

caving circles in a while.When I was a newbie, sitting around the 
campfire in
Carta Valley, or somewhere out west, cavers spoke of him like a legend.

The 2 links below are related and mention someone with the same
name.Is this him ?

http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id59.htm


http://www.angelfire.com/mo/crimeinc/page3.html


If so, the article says he lives in Bourne, Texas ( where ever that is )



Somebody could write a nice article for the Texas Caver about
Bill Helmer.   Right ?

David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

2014-09-28 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
Thanks, Carl. I will check it out. 
Fritz

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 On Sep 28, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I think we have everything.  Nearly all was included in 50 YEARS.
 ===Carl (still in Moab)
  
 From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:59 PM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer
  
 Thanks, Carl. Does TSA have a collection of Helmer's art work?
 Fritz
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I have been in contact with Bill for many years.
 He does live in Boerne.
  
 ===Carl (from Moab, Utah)
  
 From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers
 Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:27 PM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer
  
 In the late 1950's when I first became interested in caving, I enjoyed 
 seeing Helmer's clever Texas Caver covers and other art work. I don't have 
 them now but they were priceless. Hey Carl, do you think he could really be 
 living in Boerne?
 Fritz Holt
 fritz...@gmail.com
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 21, 2014, at 10:04 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Joe Pearce mentioned Bill Helmer.That is a name I haven't heard spoke 
 of in
 caving circles in a while.When I was a newbie, sitting around the 
 campfire in
 Carta Valley, or somewhere out west, cavers spoke of him like a legend.
  
 The 2 links below are related and mention someone with the same
 name.Is this him ?
  
 http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id59.htm
  
 http://www.angelfire.com/mo/crimeinc/page3.html
  
 If so, the article says he lives in Bourne, Texas ( where ever that is )
  
  
  
 Somebody could write a nice article for the Texas Caver about
 Bill Helmer.   Right ?
  
 David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

2014-09-28 Thread Kim Maloy via Texascavers
You really need to check out Bill’s web site about outlaws and gangsters. Lots 
of information about crooks and some about
his life outside of Texas. Even mentions caves on one of the pages. 
Entertaining as always.

http://www.gangstersandoutlaws.com

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