[Texascavers] various topics barely semi-related

2016-06-24 Thread David via Texascavers
Please bare with me here, as I am going completely stir-crazy from
work problems ( I was on unexpected furlough for the past 5 days ),
Just delete post please, if you don't want to hear my long-winded rants.

The video below shows some Canadian cavers in a wet cave
( presumably cold ).I have only skimmed thru it, but it looks
interesting.   The story was in the news last month:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSou4WbfXbk


In the video clip below there is a very interesting animation
of a cave-diver in video game.

Please skip to 14:55 in video and watch to 15:59, and please mute the sound.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1w4QZCQI


The Ob*ma's recently got a private tour of Carlsbad Caverns, and I can
not find one
decent photo of them in the cave, but here are 2 that they released to
the public:

 
http://img2-2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160627/carlsbad-caverns-800.jpg

 
http://www.heraldnet.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=DH&Date=20160618&Category=NEWS02&ArtNo=160619187&Ref=AR&MaxW=800&MaxH=600&q=100


I am not sure what this story is below, or if it is a new news story,
but it is about a cave in Missouri that
has a pizza restaurant on top of it:

  
http://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/cave-gang-pizza-opens-atop-legendary-carthage-cavern/article_c32264ad-3471-52e6-b99c-bded91fbdff5.html


Meramec Caverns has allegedly reopened after a few months of closure
for environmental reasons:

 http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/meramec-caverns-reopens/239230378


Watch the video below from 2:16 to 4:22 about a sea cave with a scenic skylight:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEFsQVMlRBI


It is just 20 days away until official activities start at NSS Convention:

 http://nss2016.caves.org/trips/pre_alpine.php

There are probably numerous similar things on the web that are interesting, but
that was all I found from a brief search.


Nothing cave related below, just rants:

There seems to be a lot of gloom and doom in the news recently, more
so than usual.We seem to have a
toxic political climate worldwide.   The cost of living and high rate
of crime seems to be problems here that
no candidate is willing to talk about. There is some good news
going on not being covered well by the media.The plane, "Solar
Impulse 2," is about to conclude a fascinating journey.
Smartphones will be in intense competition this fall to produce the
next upgrade of phones.  Will it be the iPhone 7 or the HTC 10, or
something else ?   As I mentioned in a previous post, I am excited
about the upcoming release of Linux Mint, maybe later this summer.   I
am excited about any future improvements in caver headlamps, and look
forward to getting one. There are other positive things
going on to, like achievements by SpaceX:   https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacex


Some people think we can somehow go back to a time to when things were
better. All I can think of to do
is purchase better locks for the doors on my house, and avoid going to
places where I might get mugged.


Will the U.K. leaving the E.U. have any negative effect on the food
quality at the 2017 TSA Convention ?


I turn 52 this weekend.   I celebrated my birthday at L'auberge Casino
in Lake Charles.It was the first
time I have ever seriously gambled, and left with nothing but a coupon
for a free birthday cupcake, but I did have
fun for 10 minutes.   They seem to purposely let you win when you
first walk in the door to get your adrenaline
flowing, and then they meticulously take it all back, and more.I
do not know a lot of cavers that are 52.   They
seem to be either 60ish or 40ish or 30ish.I do not consider myself
a baby-boomer, because my parents
were baby-boomers.   I was born in south Dallas, and my parents were
teenagers.   My parents, and my grandparents were born in Texas, 2 or
3 of my great-grandparents were born in Texas, the rest near Texas, so
I tend to lean towards the mindset of typical native Texans.If any
of you are into genealogy, surnames in my immediate family are
Hutto, Daugherty, Maroney, Baumgardner, Wynn, Kilpatrick, Spurlock and
Locklear ( not BockBeer ).I feel most
of us are all distantly related somehow if you go back far enough.


I need to sell a 1998 Toyota Camry.The motor and transmission will
get you where you need to go, but the
rest of the car has fallen apart.   Has 296,000 miles.  The only
way that I could drive to Ely on July 15th would be to
drive this Camry.But that seems so unrealistic at the moment.I
drove it to the Howdy Party last year.


My daughter, who I nicknamed, CavePearl, is starting middle school
this fall.Time just seems to be moving
to fast when it comes to that topic.

David Locklear
dlocklea...@gmail.com
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Re: [Texascavers] West Virginia related

2016-06-24 Thread Gary Moss via Texascavers
David see Bill Balfour's FB Page.  Culverson Creek lake waiting to 
drain through the cave. Lake is probably 50 feet deep and maybe more. 
It is backed up 2 miles and is 10 feet over the Ft Donally bridge.


Gary Moss


At 07:13 PM 6/24/2016, you wrote:

I know many of the caves in West Virginia should not be entered if 
there is any chance of a thunderstorm.


I can only guess that during a historic flood like the one going on 
today that all caves there are off limits and deadly.


My curiosity wonders which of the major caves would be totally 
sumped with fast moving currents thru them.


I seem to recall a map of a cave with a passage called "Canadian 
River" and was told cavers should never ever go there without doing 
detailed research on the weather.


I assume right now today nobody is caving in Kentucky or Virginia, 
or North Carolina either ?


David Locklear
dlocklea...@gmail.com
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[Texascavers] West Virginia related

2016-06-24 Thread David via Texascavers
I know many of the caves in West Virginia should not be entered if there is
any chance of a thunderstorm.

I can only guess that during a historic flood like the one going on today
that all caves there are off limits and deadly.

My curiosity wonders which of the major caves would be totally sumped with
fast moving currents thru them.

I seem to recall a map of a cave with a passage called "Canadian River" and
was told cavers should never ever go there without doing detailed research
on the weather.

I assume right now today nobody is caving in Kentucky or Virginia, or North
Carolina either ?

David Locklear
dlocklea...@gmail.com
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Re: [Texascavers] caver music related

2016-06-24 Thread Bob Oakley via Texascavers
bockbeer,
Sounds to me like you volunteered
 
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:18:07 -0500
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] caver music related
From: texascavers@texascavers.com

At many large caver gatherings, there is often a live performance of musicians.
Arranging this performance is often an expensive logistical headache, and the 
end result is never perfect, and there is always a critic or two afterwards 
saying what an awful waste of time and money that was. 
I have seen a much better way to do this.
Last night, I was at a music performance where each musician in the band 
appeared individually on separate 4K monitors performing separately from the 
band.
The individual videos were "synced" together using some video software that 
appeared to be running in Apple OS X.
The show was pre-recorded and looped, but it was an awesome experience.
All the 65" monitors were set up vertically on a stage near each other, and 
each musician performed near-life-size ( maybe feet not showing on the taller 
members )
The sound was perfect.   And each musician was seen at their best.
Watching a caver-rock band do such a performance would be awe-inspiring and 
very entertaining.
This would allow more attendees to see the performance and see it in pieces at 
their leisure.
This concept would allow the band time to arrange a fascinating performance.   
And the band would get to enjoy the caver gathering instead of working at it.
I hereby propose on June 24, 2016, that someone seriously look into do this at 
2017 caver gatherings and beyond.
David Locklear

NSS #27639

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[Texascavers] caver music related

2016-06-24 Thread David via Texascavers
At many large caver gatherings, there is often a live performance of
musicians.

Arranging this performance is often an expensive logistical headache, and
the end result is never perfect, and there is always a critic or two
afterwards saying what an awful waste of time and money that was.

I have seen a much better way to do this.

Last night, I was at a music performance where each musician in the band
appeared individually on separate 4K monitors performing separately from
the band.

The individual videos were "synced" together using some video software that
appeared to be running in Apple OS X.

The show was pre-recorded and looped, but it was an awesome experience.

All the 65" monitors were set up vertically on a stage near each other, and
each musician performed near-life-size ( maybe feet not showing on the
taller members )

The sound was perfect.   And each musician was seen at their best.

Watching a caver-rock band do such a performance would be awe-inspiring and
very entertaining.

This would allow more attendees to see the performance and see it in pieces
at their leisure.

This concept would allow the band time to arrange a fascinating
performance.   And the band would get to enjoy the caver gathering instead
of working at it.

I hereby propose on June 24, 2016, that someone seriously look into do this
at 2017 caver gatherings and beyond.

David Locklear
NSS #27639
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Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update

2016-06-24 Thread Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers
You can call it whatever you want - 'detractors', 'perpetrators' - or you can 
learn from it. It's about leadership and vision.
Congrats on getting Powell's Cave gated, I'm glad a beautiful cave got gated, I 
hope more Texas cavers can enjoy it.

RK

To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:40:24 -0500
Subject: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update
From: texascavers@texascavers.com





Well said, Jerry!
Ignore the detractors and keep up the good work!
 
===Carl Kunath


 

From: Jerry via Texascavers 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:52 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update 
:
 


Our 
"poorly organized" effort got the gate constructed in a period of less than a 
month from first finding the vandalism, has 
reached its financial goal (thanks to all that contributed !), did it 
without needing to make formal overtures to the 
"54 SP500 companies that are 
headquartered in Texas", did so without creating a massive headache by making 
sure that there was a 501(C)3 organization receiving the funds for shuttling to 
a third party, and did so by using a poor-boy version of crowd-sourcing from 
within the caving community. No excuses for dinner 
tonight.
 
Jerry.






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[Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update

2016-06-24 Thread Carl Kunath via Texascavers
Well said, Jerry!
Ignore the detractors and keep up the good work!

===Carl Kunath

From: Jerry via Texascavers
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:52 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update :



Our "poorly organized" effort got the gate constructed in a period of less than 
a month from first finding the vandalism, has reached its financial goal 
(thanks to all that contributed !), did it without needing to make formal 
overtures to the "54 SP500 companies that are headquartered in Texas", did so 
without creating a massive headache by making sure that there was a 501(C)3 
organization receiving the funds for shuttling to a third party, and did so by 
using a poor-boy version of crowd-sourcing from within the caving community. No 
excuses for dinner tonight.

Jerry.



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Re: [Texascavers] James Reddell receives 2016 KWI Karst Award :

2016-06-24 Thread Logan McNatt via Texascavers

James,
Congratulations!  The award is well-deserved for your lifetime of work 
in biospeleology, and places you in a very special group.

Thanks to KWI for honoring James and all the previous recipients.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com

On 6/24/2016 1:00 AM, Jerry via Texascavers wrote:
James emailed me the other day and mentioned that had received the 
*2016 Karst Award from the Karst Waters Institute*. There will be an 
award dinner sometime in March 2017 in Austin.


The KWI Karst Award is given annually to an outstanding member of the 
cave and karst field.Previous recipients have included Art Palmer, 
Nicholas Crawford, Norm Pace, Ron Kerbo, Jim Goodbar, John R. 
Holsinger, Will White, Derek Ford, Patty Jo Watson, Tom Kunz, and 
David Culver, among others.


Please extend a well earned congratulations to James the next time you 
see him !


Jerry.


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