Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

[Logan McNatt via Texascavers]

  
  
Very interesting study, thanks Jerry.  

Cavers spend a lot of time in the wild and encounter lots of
wildlife--both fauna and flora. For the interested, I highly
recommend the book Texas Natural History: A Century of Change,
by David J. Schmidly, Texas Tech University Press, 2002.  The first
half of the book is an introduction to and reprint of the long
out-of-print Biological Survey of Texas, 1889-1905,
by Vernon Bailey--an amazing quest. In the second half, Schmidly
documents the changes that have occurred to the landscapes/flora and
mammalian fauna during the 20th Century, with photos and
distribution maps comparing then and now.  

In the 1889-1905 Biological Survey, porcupines were recorded only in
the NW panhandle (Tascosa County) and the Trans-Pecos Davis Mtns
area. The current range (as of ca. 2000) is all but the eastern 1/3
of the state, and deep south Texas.

There are even photos of a jaguar killed in 1903 near Goldthwaite
(Mills County)--that's 100 miles NW of Austin!--and another one
killed near San Benito (Cameron County) in 1946.  Also in Cameron
County...an ocelot killed 1924, and a jaguarundi road kill in 1986.

A porcupine showed up in my next-door neighbor's yard in early Sept
2012, one block south of a busy highway (Ben White Blvd) in south
central Austin.  I called a licensed wildlife trapper named Rio
Tenango who easily netted it and released it on a distant ranch that
accepts such urban rescues. Small world-- Rio recognized my house
because he had been here for a UT Grotto vertical training in my
back yard years before.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com 

On 8/25/2016 8:15 PM, Marvin and Lisa
  via Texascavers wrote:


  And I can say they have been common in Government Canyon caves for years. However, just in the last couple of years have I seen increased amounts of road-killed porcupines around Spring Branch.

Marvin Miller

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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

They're quite common (hence the Porcupine Grotto) in the western Edwards Plateau caves.

Jerry Atkinson.

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On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers  wrote:

A couple live in Deep.


--Don



  On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers  wrote:

http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-f
inds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cf
be577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html

Jerry Atkinson.

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Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves

[Mark Minton via Texascavers]

  I've seen porcupines in Texas caves as far back as the '80s. I also
remember a couple of times that there were unusually large numbers of
dead porcupines on the highways in central and west Texas. It was like
they were involved in mass migrations and got caught in the crossfire.
(I've similarly seen large numbers of migrating tarantulas, with lots
smashed on the roads in Texas.)

  Interestingly, we also found a couple of porcupine carcasses very near
the Last Bash entrance to J2 in Oaxaca, Mexico. That particular entrance
is _way_ out in the boonies, so whatever the porcupines were doing
there, it was unlikely to be related to human activity. Maybe they just
like caves. :-)

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On Thu, August 25, 2016 9:15 pm, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers wrote:
> And I can say they have been common in Government Canyon caves for
> years. However, just in the last couple of years have I seen increased
> amounts of road-killed porcupines around Spring Branch.
>
> Marvin Miller
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf
> Of Jerryatkin via Texascavers
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:01 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in
> many south-central Texas caves
>
> They're quite common (hence the Porcupine Grotto) in the western Edwards
> Plateau caves.
>
> Jerry Atkinson.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers
>>  wrote:
>>
>> A couple live in Deep.
>>
>> --Don
>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-f
>>> inds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cf
>>> be577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html
>>>
>>> Jerry Atkinson.

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Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

[Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers]

And I can say they have been common in Government Canyon caves for years. 
However, just in the last couple of years have I seen increased amounts of 
road-killed porcupines around Spring Branch.

Marvin Miller

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Jerryatkin via Texascavers
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:01 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many 
south-central Texas caves :

They're quite common (hence the Porcupine Grotto) in the western Edwards 
Plateau caves.

Jerry Atkinson.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> A couple live in Deep.
> 
> 
> --Don
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-f
>> inds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cf
>> be577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html
>> 
>> Jerry Atkinson.
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

[Jerryatkin via Texascavers]

They're quite common (hence the Porcupine Grotto) in the western Edwards 
Plateau caves.

Jerry Atkinson.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> A couple live in Deep.
> 
> 
> --Don
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-finds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cfbe577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

[Don Arburn via Texascavers]

A couple live in Deep.


--Don

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-finds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cfbe577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html
> 
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[Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

[Jerryatkin via Texascavers]

http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-finds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cfbe577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html

Jerry Atkinson.

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[Texascavers] Cave and karst news from NCKRI

[George Veni via Texascavers]

Dear Friends,

Here are three announcements that may interest you, your students, or 
colleagues:


1)List of upcoming cave and karst events.

2)Undergraduate karst research scholarship.

3)Meeting of the Geological Society of America Karst Division.

The details are below. Please feel free to share this information with anyone 
who may be interested. Contact the sources below for more information.

George

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List of upcoming cave and karst meetings:


1)EuroKarst 2016, 5-7 September 2016 (Neuchâtel, Switzerland), 
http://www.eurokarst.org/



2)  43rd International Association of Hydrogeologists, 25-29 September 
2016 (Montpellier, France), http://www.60iah2016.org/en/



3)  Geological Society of America Convention, 25-28 September 2016 
(Denver, Colorado, USA), http://community.geosociety.org/gsa2016/home



4)  American Geophysical Union, 12-16 December 2016, (San Francisco, 
California, USA), 3 August abstract deadline, http://fallmeeting.agu.org/2016/



5)Hypogea 2017: International Congress of Speleology in Artificial 
Cavities, 6-10 March 2017 (Cappadocia, Turkey), 
www.hypogea2017.com



6)  US Geological Survey Karst Interest Group Meeting, 16-18 May 2017 
(San Antonio, Texas, USA).



7)  Climate Record: The Karst Record VIII, 21-24 May 2017, (Austin, 
Texas, USA), http://sites.uci.edu/kr8conference/



8)  National Speleological Society Convention, 19-23 June 2017 (Rio 
Rancho, New Mexico, USA), http://nss2017.caves.org/



9)  National Association of Mining History Organisations Conference 
2017, 23-26 June 2017 (Godstone, Surrey, UK), http://namho2017.info/



10) 17th International Congress of Speleology, 23-30 July 2017 (Sydney, 
New South Wales, Australia), http://speleo2017.com/



11) National Cave and Karst Management Symposium, 16-20 October 2017 
(Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA), http://nckms.org/



12)   The Sinkhole Conference, joint with the 3rd Appalachian Karst 
Symposium, 2-6 April 2018 (Shepherdstown, West Virginia, USA), 
http://www.sinkholeconference.com/

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The Albert and Ethel Ogden Undergraduate Research Scholarship
in Geology and Geography

This scholarship has been established to encourage small scale karst research 
by geology and geography undergraduate students.  Two annual awards of $500 are 
available.  The applicant must be an NSS member.  Example projects include dye 
tracing, spatial analysis of karst landforms, water quality of springs and cave 
waters, cave sediment analyses, etc.  Applications describing the proposed 
research are limited to two pages of text.  Send or email your application to 
John Hoffelt, 208 Cheatham Ave., Smyrna, Tennessee 37167-4766; 
mossy...@comcast.net.  A letter of recommendation 
by the professor overseeing the research should be included in the proposal.  
Application deadline is December 15th, 2016 with awards being announced the 
first week of January.

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Geological Society of America (GSA) Karst Division

GSA Karst Division Social
Monday 9/26 from 5:30pm-7:30pm
Colorado Convention Center Room 504
Cash bar available on site (beer/soda)

GSA Karst Division Business Meeting
Monday 9/26 from 12-1:30pm
Colorado Convention Center Room 505
Open to all (no drinks or snacks though)

For more information on the GSA Convention, visit 
http://community.geosociety.org/gsa2016/home


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

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Re: [Texascavers] LaChance Sinkhole Dig on Sunday, August 28 at 9 am

[Geary Schindel via Texascavers]

Daniel,

I think we can fit you in. Let me know on Friday if you can go our not and I’ll 
send out directions.

THANKS,

Geary

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Caver via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:13 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] LaChance Sinkhole Dig on Sunday, August 28 at 9 am

I guess Wednesday, today, is the last day to let you know. I won't know until 
Friday. Maybe a next time.

Daniel Ramirez
dramire...@ymail.com

On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
Folks,

We have a few more spaces left.

Geary

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:50 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] LaChance Sinkhole Dig on Sunday, August 28 at 9 am

Geary

If there is room I'd like to go

Kurt

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 23, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
Folks,

The Bexar Grotto has a monthly dig project at the LaChance Sinkhole on Sunday, 
August 28 at 9 am. Location is near New Braunfels off of Rt 306, west. There is 
a limit to the number of folks the property and sinkholes can handle so I need 
a head county. We’re going to limit the number of folks attending to about 20. 
I need to have a head count on who is going since the grotto has donated some 
funds to cover a lunch/picnic after the dig. The LaChance’s want to know so 
they can also plan. There will be digging and some socializing going on. (Yes, 
some of my caver friends need to be socialized).

We’re looking for strong back - weak mind types but I also have some positions 
open for folks that would like to try their hand at management – maybe Rob and 
Jess will bring their Cat O Nine Tails as a motivator.

We’ll also have swimming in the Guadalupe River nearby after the event..

Here is what you need to know. – Please read carefully.

There are four sinkholes on the property. Two digs are in caves and two are 
surface digs.

This is a good opportunity to help them with improving the drainage of their 
property as the sinkholes now back up and flood their house during heavy rains. 
These are some of the larger sinkholes in the area and drain more than a square 
mile. There is lots of potential there.

Depth to groundwater is approximately 250 feet so we have a ways to go to reach 
the water table. The location most likely drains to San Marcos Springs so there 
is a lot of potential.  The sinkholes were taking water this Sunday so they may 
be a bit muddy.

We’ll start digging around 9 am and knock off around 1 pm for a picnic. The 
grotto has donated some funds for burger and sausage. Please consider bringing 
a dish.

After eating, we’ll head over to the river to clean up some and go swimming. 
They have access to a private beach along the river.

Bring helmet, light, boots, gloves, drinks, short shovel, spud bar, 5 gallon 
buckets, rock shaving equipment, etc. if you have it.

I need to know on Wednesday whether you want to go. There is also a limit to 
the size of the group. When you let me know if you’re going, I’ll send you the 
address.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
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Re: [Texascavers] LaChance Sinkhole Dig on Sunday, August 28 at 9 am

[Geary Schindel via Texascavers]

Great

See you then

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE


 Original message 
From: "Hill, Leia L. via Texascavers"
Date:08/24/2016 11:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] LaChance Sinkhole Dig on Sunday, August 28 at 9 am

Hi, Geary, I told you on Monday night that I was going, but I'm confirming yes 
for Sunday! Count me in, sir!

Thank you,

Leia

Leia L. Hill
(830) 660-5884
llh...@student.uiwtx.edu

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:

Folks,

We have a few more spaces left.

Geary

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:50 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] LaChance Sinkhole Dig on Sunday, August 28 at 9 am

Geary

If there is room I'd like to go

Kurt

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 23, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
Folks,

The Bexar Grotto has a monthly dig project at the LaChance Sinkhole on Sunday, 
August 28 at 9 am. Location is near New Braunfels off of Rt 306, west. There is 
a limit to the number of folks the property and sinkholes can handle so I need 
a head county. We’re going to limit the number of folks attending to about 20. 
I need to have a head count on who is going since the grotto has donated some 
funds to cover a lunch/picnic after the dig. The LaChance’s want to know so 
they can also plan. There will be digging and some socializing going on. (Yes, 
some of my caver friends need to be socialized).

We’re looking for strong back - weak mind types but I also have some positions 
open for folks that would like to try their hand at management – maybe Rob and 
Jess will bring their Cat O Nine Tails as a motivator.

We’ll also have swimming in the Guadalupe River nearby after the event..

Here is what you need to know. – Please read carefully.

There are four sinkholes on the property. Two digs are in caves and two are 
surface digs.

This is a good opportunity to help them with improving the drainage of their 
property as the sinkholes now back up and flood their house during heavy rains. 
These are some of the larger sinkholes in the area and drain more than a square 
mile. There is lots of potential there.

Depth to groundwater is approximately 250 feet so we have a ways to go to reach 
the water table. The location most likely drains to San Marcos Springs so there 
is a lot of potential.  The sinkholes were taking water this Sunday so they may 
be a bit muddy.

We’ll start digging around 9 am and knock off around 1 pm for a picnic. The 
grotto has donated some funds for burger and sausage. Please consider bringing 
a dish.

After eating, we’ll head over to the river to clean up some and go swimming. 
They have access to a private beach along the river.

Bring helmet, light, boots, gloves, drinks, short shovel, spud bar, 5 gallon 
buckets, rock shaving equipment, etc. if you have it.

I need to know on Wednesday whether you want to go. There is also a limit to 
the size of the group. When you let me know if you’re going, I’ll send you the 
address.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
210.326.1576
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