Re: [Texascavers] A question about the rights of cavers

[Bill Steele via Texascavers]

Start with this case:

https://www.quimbee.com/cases/marengo-cave-co-v-ross

Bill Steele 

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have probably all been in this situation: A landowner invites you explore 
> a cave on his land. You do a few trips with your caving buds. You survey the 
> cave. After surveying it becomes obvious that the cave crosses under the 
> property line of the neighboring landowner. Are you trespassing if you 
> continue to visit the cave and pass under the neighboring property? Were you 
> trespassing before you were aware that the cave crossed the property line? Is 
> it only trespassing when the neighbor becomes aware of the cave and asks you 
> not to traverse his part of the cave anymore?
>  
> A related question: Does the survey data you collected of the neighbor’s 
> portion of the cave and do the pictures you took of that area belong to you, 
> or would the neighboring landowner have standing to sue in court for the 
> rights to that data?
>  
> Marvin Miller
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[Texascavers] A question about the rights of cavers

[Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers]

We have probably all been in this situation: A landowner invites you explore
a cave on his land. You do a few trips with your caving buds. You survey the
cave. After surveying it becomes obvious that the cave crosses under the
property line of the neighboring landowner. Are you trespassing if you
continue to visit the cave and pass under the neighboring property? Were you
trespassing before you were aware that the cave crossed the property line?
Is it only trespassing when the neighbor becomes aware of the cave and asks
you not to traverse his part of the cave anymore? 

 

A related question: Does the survey data you collected of the neighbor's
portion of the cave and do the pictures you took of that area belong to you,
or would the neighboring landowner have standing to sue in court for the
rights to that data?

 

Marvin Miller

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Re: [Texascavers] Folks, Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Ext...

[Sleazeweazel via Texascavers]

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So the bacteria emerged before the archaea???
 
Sleazel
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2017 4:15:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
texascavers@texascavers.com writes:



Thanks, Geary -- I caved some with Norm Pace c. 1968, when  he was a grad 
student at the Univ. of Illinois. I saw him only rarely after he  moved to 
Colorado. The attached diagram shows where the modern data from  genetic 
analysis leaves animals in the overall scheme of things. -- Mixon  

 

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Re: [Texascavers] Folks, Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Extraordinaire and microbiologist.

[Julia Germany via Texascavers]

Excellent article.

My favorite line:
"Since his seminal work, Pace has studied the microbes of many other 
inhospitable environments, including caves, hydrothermal vents at the bottom of 
the ocean, and the New York subway."

Julia G Germany
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Geary Schindel via Texascavers
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Subject: [Texascavers] Folks, Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver 
Extraordinaire and microbiologist.

Folks,

Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Extraordinaire and 
microbiologist.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/07/the-man-who-blew-the-door-off-the-microbial-world/534246/

Geary Schindel
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Re: [Texascavers] Folks, Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Extraordinaire and microbiologist.

[Bill Stephens via Texascavers]

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As a caver, I'm not insulted with being stuck between the Slime Molds and the 
Fungi. I've been called a hell of a lot worse.
B. Stephens

On Friday, July 21, 2017, 2:15:15 PM MDT, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
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Thanks, Geary -- I caved some with Norm Pace c. 1968, when he was a grad 
student at the Univ. of Illinois. I saw him only rarely after he moved to 
Colorado. The attached diagram shows where the modern data from genetic 
analysis leaves animals in the overall scheme of things. -- 
Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] Folks, Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Extraordinaire and microbiologist.

[Mixon Bill via Texascavers]

Thanks, Geary -- I caved some with Norm Pace c. 1968, when he was a grad 
student at the Univ. of Illinois. I saw him only rarely after he moved to 
Colorado. The attached diagram shows where the modern data from genetic 
analysis leaves animals in the overall scheme of things. -- Mixon


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Re: [Texascavers] Folks, Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Extraordinaire and microbiologist.

[Nancy Weaver via Texascavers]

thanks Geary.  that really is a good read.  fascinating man.
Nancy
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[Texascavers] Folks, Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Extraordinaire and microbiologist.

[Geary Schindel via Texascavers]

Folks,

Here is an excellent article on Norm Pace, Caver Extraordinaire and 
microbiologist.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/07/the-man-who-blew-the-door-off-the-microbial-world/534246/

Geary Schindel
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