Re: [Texascavers] new deep cave

2018-12-20 Thread Charles Loving
Dos Bocas in Puerto Rico is not quite a float. A group of us Texas covers
did that with some PR cavers as guides.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:43 PM David  wrote:

> A lot of non-caving people probably have no idea that there are lots of
> deep caves in the remote wildernesses.   In fact, there are several already
> mapped in far southernmost Alaska, and Idaho and the Canadian province of
> British Columbia.
>
> The deepest limestone caves and deepest vertical caves of North America
> are in that region.
>
> I can't name any of them off the top of my head, but they are on the
> various deep caves list.
>
> I would bet some Canadian cavers already had been in this cave, or at
> least ridge-walked around that specific range and probably back in the 80's.
>
> There is a deeper lava cave, but the lava tube passage is less than a few
> meters below the surface.
>
>
> Sidenote:
>
> I took Geology 101 at A in 1985 and caver Tom Byrd was my T.A.   He took
> me to "Midnght Cave" in Carta Valley.  We camped on the old Triangle with
> avout ten C.V.S.S. folks.  I had met them once at my first TCR in New
> Braunfels, or at the precious Spring Convention at Inner Space Caverns.
>
> I forgot most of that, but Jon Everage was there, and I got to know him.
>
> We all sat around the campfire in The Triangle.   I had hitchiked from
> College Station to Austin to meet Tom.But I think Gil or Bill Elliot or
> both took me back to Austin to hitch-hike home to College Station, or maybe
> that was a 2nd trip, as I think I may have "possibly" I done that twice.
>  I had done a remarkable amount of hitch-hiking by 1987, when I began my
> futile work on "The SpeleoStationwagon."  I only have a blurry picture of
> that vehicle up near Joya de Salas in the El Cielo area of The Sierra
> Madres.   Anyways, that all started rumors about me being crazy, that
> eventually got way too exaggerated around the caver-campfire.I was just
> very naive and uninformed, just like all of the hikers that recently made
> the tragic news in Peru, Morocco, and Mexico.   I was just lucky and never
> encountered trouble.
>
>
> Another sidenote:
>
> It was really great to see the C.V.S.S. pose for a group photo last year.
>  I felt I could understand at least a itsy-bitsy tiny bit some of their
> comradery and memories at least of the one reunion they had there in The
> Triangle.  That might of been early spring of 86.   Either way, I knew a
> lot of speleo-stuff for a novice caver - just enough to be over-confident
> and dangerous - lacking true experience.
>
> Now in almost 2019, I am way too out of shape and would be even more
> likely to be clumsy and accident-prone.  My next cave will involve floating
> downstream on a large inner-tube with a life-jacket in tropical stream.
> Hopefully that will be in 2020 in Puerto Rico or Cuba or southern Mexico.
>
> D.L.
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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Visit this new cave, face $1 million dollar Fine

2018-12-20 Thread John Corcoran III
Thanks Lee.

Regards,

John

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Subject: [SWR CAVERS] Visit this new cave, face $1 million dollar Fine


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-cave-bc-canadas-biggest-closed-trespass-1.4952367


https://www.vancourier.com/news/bc-parks-threatens-1-million-fine-as-it-closes-off-star-wars-cave-1.23548906


Wow!


Lee Skinner


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Re: [Texascavers] new deep cave

2018-12-20 Thread David
A lot of non-caving people probably have no idea that there are lots of
deep caves in the remote wildernesses.   In fact, there are several already
mapped in far southernmost Alaska, and Idaho and the Canadian province of
British Columbia.

The deepest limestone caves and deepest vertical caves of North America are
in that region.

I can't name any of them off the top of my head, but they are on the
various deep caves list.

I would bet some Canadian cavers already had been in this cave, or at least
ridge-walked around that specific range and probably back in the 80's.

There is a deeper lava cave, but the lava tube passage is less than a few
meters below the surface.


Sidenote:

I took Geology 101 at A in 1985 and caver Tom Byrd was my T.A.   He took
me to "Midnght Cave" in Carta Valley.  We camped on the old Triangle with
avout ten C.V.S.S. folks.  I had met them once at my first TCR in New
Braunfels, or at the precious Spring Convention at Inner Space Caverns.

I forgot most of that, but Jon Everage was there, and I got to know him.

We all sat around the campfire in The Triangle.   I had hitchiked from
College Station to Austin to meet Tom.But I think Gil or Bill Elliot or
both took me back to Austin to hitch-hike home to College Station, or maybe
that was a 2nd trip, as I think I may have "possibly" I done that twice.
 I had done a remarkable amount of hitch-hiking by 1987, when I began my
futile work on "The SpeleoStationwagon."  I only have a blurry picture of
that vehicle up near Joya de Salas in the El Cielo area of The Sierra
Madres.   Anyways, that all started rumors about me being crazy, that
eventually got way too exaggerated around the caver-campfire.I was just
very naive and uninformed, just like all of the hikers that recently made
the tragic news in Peru, Morocco, and Mexico.   I was just lucky and never
encountered trouble.


Another sidenote:

It was really great to see the C.V.S.S. pose for a group photo last year.
 I felt I could understand at least a itsy-bitsy tiny bit some of their
comradery and memories at least of the one reunion they had there in The
Triangle.  That might of been early spring of 86.   Either way, I knew a
lot of speleo-stuff for a novice caver - just enough to be over-confident
and dangerous - lacking true experience.

Now in almost 2019, I am way too out of shape and would be even more likely
to be clumsy and accident-prone.  My next cave will involve floating
downstream on a large inner-tube with a life-jacket in tropical stream.
Hopefully that will be in 2020 in Puerto Rico or Cuba or southern Mexico.

D.L.
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[Texascavers] Visit this new cave, face $1 million dollar Fine

2018-12-20 Thread Lee H. Skinner


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-cave-bc-canadas-biggest-closed-trespass-1.4952367


https://www.vancourier.com/news/bc-parks-threatens-1-million-fine-as-it-closes-off-star-wars-cave-1.23548906


Wow!


Lee Skinner


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