Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-13 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
Jerry said:
*"2.) Get the elder members of your grotto to coordinate more trips for the
members"*

Scott Cogburn is an elder member of the Houston Grotto ;-)

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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-13 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
Well firstly we have to get rid of all the lawyers…

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Scott C via Texascavers
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:30 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
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Jerry,

Thanks! I really appreciate your thoughtful response and the information. Some 
of these steps I've been pursuing, but others are good insights that I haven't. 
Sometimes, this issue just really frustrates me. It's good to know that other 
people feel this way, too. However, it's sad to learn that this has been an 
ongoing issue for such a long time. Most everybody that I have met & caved with 
in our grotto and in the Texas caving community so far have been really solid 
people who are enthusiastic about caving and open to helping those around them 
enjoy the sport. I've learned from talking with some of these people though 
that there is an undercurrent of frustration with some of the seeming cliquish 
or closed off nature of cave access sometimes which discourages pursuit of the 
sport. Since I have come to really love caving, I hate to see people get 
discouraged, because of some sort of systemic problem. Anyways...Hopefully, 
with the continued awesome work of organizations like TCMA, etc... and behind 
the scenes work of individual cavers who are talking with landowners, more of 
these Texas caves can be opened up to the Texas caving community at large via 
grotto trips, etc...

Sincerely,

Scott Cogburn
Greater Houston Grotto
Treasurer

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2016, at 4:06 AM, Jerry via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
Scott,

You are not alone; this has been an issue for decades.  To find out about Texas 
caves in general, I suggest getting the guidebook "The Caves and Karst of 
Texas" which is available for $15 to TSA and NSS members from the Texas 
Speleological Survey. Other county-specific publications on Texas caves are 
available for free download from the TSS website.

To go caving, you have several options:
1.) Participate in TSA, TCMA, and TSS projects which are advertised on the 
various Facebook pages and the TexasCavers listserve.
2.) Get the elder members of your grotto to coordinate more trips for the 
members
3.) Mingle with folks at the TSA Convention and TCR that are involved with 
caving in areas and caves that you are interested in
4.) Directly ask specific cave landowner contacts for a trip.

You probably will have to get out of your comfort zone a bit to get things 
moving, but your interest and motivation will win the hearts and minds of your 
fellow cavers.

Jerry Atkinson
Texas Speleological Survey
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Carl,

Very interesting article :) Thanks! Sounds like a cool cave I and others in our 
grotto would love to explore!

I might be wrong in this, but it seems like to me there might be a number of 
these types of cool caves. Caves that were very popular in past years, but for 
some reason or another, currently, a lot of newer cavers never here about them 
anymore or don't seem to have access. I completely understand the issue of 
landowner relations that you brought up in your article. It's just kind of sad 
to me that more grotto members don't have access or knowledge of a lot of these 
caves. I really hope that we can move to increase knowledge and access to these 
awesome caves. I'd love to explore them, and I know a lot of other newer cavers 
would as well. I mean we regularly here about and plan trips to Robber Baron, 
Whirlpool, Logan's, Airman's, now O-9 Well, and Deep & Punkin' which are 
awesome! However, the same small slate of caves kind of get stale after a 
while. But then Midnight and others are right there in Carta Valley, and the 
majority of us can't get into them. Only a small group with special access 
visits them. That also happens with Perry Water Cave, and a number of other 
caves in Texas. However, when we take our yearly grotto trip up to TAG, even 
though we're total outsiders, we can get permits and visit tons of outstanding 
caves! I just wish that here in our home state it didn't feel so restricted, 
and like some sort of back-channel type of system for individuals or grottos to 
visit all the terrific caves our state has to offer. Thanks.

Are you g

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-12 Thread Julia Germany via Texascavers
Hi Scott!

Please add your email address to your signature block. 

I would bet there are folks on this listserv who would be willing to discuss 
off-list your non-Powell's gate project fundraising concerns/comments.

We don't want to lose good cavers and grotto leaders like you!

julia

 

 

Julia G Germany
germa...@aol.com 

 

 

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Jerry,


Thanks! I really appreciate your thoughtful response and the information. Some 
of these steps I've been pursuing, but others are good insights that I haven't. 
Sometimes, this issue just really frustrates me. It's good to know that other 
people feel this way, too. However, it's sad to learn that this has been an 
ongoing issue for such a long time. Most everybody that I have met & caved with 
in our grotto and in the Texas caving community so far have been really solid 
people who are enthusiastic about caving and open to helping those around them 
enjoy the sport. I've learned from talking with some of these people though 
that there is an undercurrent of frustration with some of the seeming cliquish 
or closed off nature of cave access sometimes which discourages pursuit of the 
sport. Since I have come to really love caving, I hate to see people get 
discouraged, because of some sort of systemic problem. Anyways...Hopefully, 
with the continued awesome work of organizations like TCMA, etc... and behind 
the scenes work of individual cavers who are talking with landowners, more of 
these Texas caves can be opened up to the Texas caving community at large via 
grotto trips, etc...


Sincerely,


Scott Cogburn
Greater Houston Grotto
Treasurer 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2016, at 4:06 AM, Jerry via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:



Scott,

You are not alone; this has been an issue for decades.  To find out about Texas 
caves in general, I suggest getting the guidebook "The Caves and Karst of 
Texas" which is available for $15to TSA and NSS members from the Texas 
Speleological Survey. Other county-specific publications on Texas caves are 
available for free download from the TSS website.

To go caving, you have several options:
1.) Participate in TSA, TCMA, and TSS projects which are advertised on the 
various Facebook pages and the TexasCavers listserve.
2.) Get the elder members of your grotto to coordinate more trips for the 
members
3.) Mingle with folks at the TSA Convention and TCR that are involved with 
caving in areas and caves that you are interested in
4.) Directly ask specific cave landowner contacts for a trip.

You probably will have to get out of your comfort zone a bit to get things 
moving, but your interest and motivation will win the hearts and minds of your 
fellow cavers.

Jerry Atkinson
Texas Speleological Survey


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From: Scott C via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :



Carl,


Very interesting article :) Thanks! Sounds like a cool cave I and others in our 
grotto would love to explore! 


I might be wrong in this, but it seems like to me there might be a number of 
these types of cool caves. Caves that were very popular in past years, but for 
some reason or another, currently, a lot of newer cavers never here about them 
anymore or don't seem to have access. I completely understand the issue of 
landowner relations that you brought up in your article. It's just kind of sad 
to me that more grotto members don't have access or knowledge of a lot of these 
caves. I really hope that we can move to increase knowledge and access to these 
awesome caves. I'd love to explore them, and I know a lot of other newer cavers 
would as well. I mean we regularly here about and plan trips to Robber Baron, 
Whirlpool, Logan's, Airman's, now O-9 Well, and Deep & Punkin' which are 
awesome! However, the same small slate of caves kind of get stale after a 
while. But then Midnight and others are right there in Carta Valley, and the 
majority of us can't get into them. Only a small group with special access 
visits them. That also happens with Perry Water Cave, and a number of other 
caves in Texas. However, when we take our yearly grotto trip up to TAG, even 
though we're total outsiders, we can get permits and visit tons of outstanding 
caves! I just wish that here in our home state it didn't feel so restricted, 
and like some sort of back-channel type of system for individuals or grottos to 
visit all the terrific caves our state has to offer. Thanks.


Are you going to be at NSS this year? I'd like to check out your book. 


Sincerely,


Scott Cogburn
Greater 

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-12 Thread Scott C via Texascavers
Jerry,

Thanks! I really appreciate your thoughtful response and the information. Some 
of these steps I've been pursuing, but others are good insights that I haven't. 
Sometimes, this issue just really frustrates me. It's good to know that other 
people feel this way, too. However, it's sad to learn that this has been an 
ongoing issue for such a long time. Most everybody that I have met & caved with 
in our grotto and in the Texas caving community so far have been really solid 
people who are enthusiastic about caving and open to helping those around them 
enjoy the sport. I've learned from talking with some of these people though 
that there is an undercurrent of frustration with some of the seeming cliquish 
or closed off nature of cave access sometimes which discourages pursuit of the 
sport. Since I have come to really love caving, I hate to see people get 
discouraged, because of some sort of systemic problem. Anyways...Hopefully, 
with the continued awesome work of organizations like TCMA, etc... and behind 
the scenes work of individual cavers who are talking with landowners, more of 
these Texas caves can be opened up to the Texas caving community at large via 
grotto trips, etc...

Sincerely,

Scott Cogburn
Greater Houston Grotto
Treasurer 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2016, at 4:06 AM, Jerry via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> You are not alone; this has been an issue for decades.  To find out about 
> Texas caves in general, I suggest getting the guidebook "The Caves and Karst 
> of Texas" which is available for $15 to TSA and NSS members from the Texas 
> Speleological Survey. Other county-specific publications on Texas caves are 
> available for free download from the TSS website.
> 
> To go caving, you have several options:
> 1.) Participate in TSA, TCMA, and TSS projects which are advertised on the 
> various Facebook pages and the TexasCavers listserve.
> 2.) Get the elder members of your grotto to coordinate more trips for the 
> members
> 3.) Mingle with folks at the TSA Convention and TCR that are involved with 
> caving in areas and caves that you are interested in
> 4.) Directly ask specific cave landowner contacts for a trip.
> 
> You probably will have to get out of your comfort zone a bit to get things 
> moving, but your interest and motivation will win the hearts and minds of 
> your fellow cavers.
> 
> Jerry Atkinson
> Texas Speleological Survey
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott C via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 12:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :
> 
> Carl,
> 
> Very interesting article :) Thanks! Sounds like a cool cave I and others in 
> our grotto would love to explore!
> 
> I might be wrong in this, but it seems like to me there might be a number of 
> these types of cool caves. Caves that were very popular in past years, but 
> for some reason or another, currently, a lot of newer cavers never here about 
> them anymore or don't seem to have access. I completely understand the issue 
> of landowner relations that you brought up in your article. It's just kind of 
> sad to me that more grotto members don't have access or knowledge of a lot of 
> these caves. I really hope that we can move to increase knowledge and access 
> to these awesome caves. I'd love to explore them, and I know a lot of other 
> newer cavers would as well. I mean we regularly here about and plan trips to 
> Robber Baron, Whirlpool, Logan's, Airman's, now O-9 Well, and Deep & Punkin' 
> which are awesome! However, the same small slate of caves kind of get stale 
> after a while. But then Midnight and others are right there in Carta Valley, 
> and the majority of us can't get into them. Only a small group with special 
> access visits them. That also happens with Perry Water Cave, and a number of 
> other caves in Texas. However, when we take our yearly grotto trip up to TAG, 
> even though we're total outsiders, we can get permits and visit tons of 
> outstanding caves! I just wish that here in our home state it didn't feel so 
> restricted, and like some sort of back-channel type of system for individuals 
> or grottos to visit all the terrific caves our state has to offer. Thanks.
> 
> Are you going to be at NSS this year? I'd like to check out your book.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Scott Cogburn
> Greater Houston Grotto
> Treasurer
> 
> 
> On Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:44 PM, Scott C via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Carl,
> 
> Thanks so much for the link! I'll check it out :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Scott Cog

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-12 Thread Jerry via Texascavers
Scott,

You are not alone; this has been an issue for decades.  To find out about Texas 
caves in general, I suggest getting the guidebook "The Caves and Karst of 
Texas" which is available for $15to TSA and NSS members from the Texas 
Speleological Survey. Other county-specific publications on Texas caves are 
available for free download from the TSS website.

To go caving, you have several options:
1.) Participate in TSA, TCMA, and TSS projects which are advertised on the 
various Facebook pages and the TexasCavers listserve.
2.) Get the elder members of your grotto to coordinate more trips for the 
members
3.) Mingle with folks at the TSA Convention and TCR that are involved with 
caving in areas and caves that you are interested in
4.) Directly ask specific cave landowner contacts for a trip.

You probably will have to get out of your comfort zone a bit to get things 
moving, but your interest and motivation will win the hearts and minds of your 
fellow cavers.

Jerry Atkinson
Texas Speleological Survey


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From: Scott C via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :



Carl,


Very interesting article :) Thanks! Sounds like a cool cave I and others in our 
grotto would love to explore! 


I might be wrong in this, but it seems like to me there might be a number of 
these types of cool caves. Caves that were very popular in past years, but for 
some reason or another, currently, a lot of newer cavers never here about them 
anymore or don't seem to have access. I completely understand the issue of 
landowner relations that you brought up in your article. It's just kind of sad 
to me that more grotto members don't have access or knowledge of a lot of these 
caves. I really hope that we can move to increase knowledge and access to these 
awesome caves. I'd love to explore them, and I know a lot of other newer cavers 
would as well. I mean we regularly here about and plan trips to Robber Baron, 
Whirlpool, Logan's, Airman's, now O-9 Well, and Deep & Punkin' which are 
awesome! However, the same small slate of caves kind of get stale after a 
while. But then Midnight and others are right there in Carta Valley, and the 
majority of us can't get into them. Only a small group with special access 
visits them. That also happens with Perry Water Cave, and a number of other 
caves in Texas. However, when we take our yearly grotto trip up to TAG, even 
though we're total outsiders, we can get permits and visit tons of outstanding 
caves! I just wish that here in our home state it didn't feel so restricted, 
and like some sort of back-channel type of system for individuals or grottos to 
visit all the terrific caves our state has to offer. Thanks.


Are you going to be at NSS this year? I'd like to check out your book. 


Sincerely,


Scott Cogburn
Greater Houston Grotto
Treasurer
 



 
 
 
 On Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:44 PM, Scott C via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

  

 


Carl,


Thanks so much for the link! I'll check it out :)


Cheers,


Scott Cogburn
Greater Houston Grotto
Treasurer
 



 
 
 
 On Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:08 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

  

 


Jerry,
  
I plan to make a motion at tommorrow’s grotto meeting to help fund this.
  
Marvin
  


From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerryatkin via Texascavers
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:29 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

  

Just a reminder that the gate still needs funding.

  

Jerry.

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From: Jerry <jerryat...@aol.com>
Date: June 9, 2016 at 3:21:56 AM MDT
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :


Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help

 Powell’s Cave is the second longest cave in Texas, with 26.1 km of surveyed 
passage. Treasure hunters dug the historic entrance open in the early 1900s and 
it is now stabilized with a concrete culvert installed by volunteer cavers in 
the late 1990s. The cave is used as a roost by a large colony of Cave Myotis 
(Myotis velifer). Recently, during a scheduled visit to the cave, it was 
discovered that trespassers had entered the cave and vandalized it, leaving 
cans, bottles, and other miscellaneous trash in the cave. Unfortunately, this 
also included spray-painting graffiti on the cave walls in the Crevice Passage 
(see attached photos). 

 

Concerns about protecting the integrity of the cave as well as the vulnerable 
bat colony (estimated at about 10,000 individuals) have led to the decision to 
install an above ground, bat-friendly, cupola-style gate, similar to the one 
recently built for Ezell’s

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-12 Thread Jerry via Texascavers
Thanks, Marvin !  I appreciate the grotto's involvement.

Jerry.
 

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To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :



Jerry,
 
I plan to make a motion at tommorrow’s grotto meeting to help fund this.
 
Marvin
 

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerryatkin via Texascavers
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:29 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

 

Just a reminder that the gate still needs funding.

 

Jerry.

Sent from my iPad


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From: Jerry <jerryat...@aol.com>
Date: June 9, 2016 at 3:21:56 AM MDT
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :


Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help

 Powell’s Cave is the second longest cave in Texas, with 26.1 km of surveyed 
passage. Treasure hunters dug the historic entrance open in the early 1900s and 
it is now stabilized with a concrete culvert installed by volunteer cavers in 
the late 1990s. The cave is used as a roost by a large colony of Cave Myotis 
(Myotis velifer). Recently, during a scheduled visit to the cave, it was 
discovered that trespassers had entered the cave and vandalized it, leaving 
cans, bottles, and other miscellaneous trash in the cave. Unfortunately, this 
also included spray-painting graffiti on the cave walls in the Crevice Passage 
(see attached photos). 

 

Concerns about protecting the integrity of the cave as well as the vulnerable 
bat colony (estimated at about 10,000 individuals) have led to the decision to 
install an above ground, bat-friendly, cupola-style gate, similar to the one 
recently built for Ezell’s Cave in Hays County. Jim Kennedy of Kennedy 
Above/Under Ground LLC has been contracted to build the gate and it is hoped 
that it will be completed sometime in the next month or so.

 

As part of the agreement with the landowner, cavers will be paying for the 
labor and ancillary costs of the gate construction, while the landowner will 
pay for the materials. This was done to support continuing landowner relations 
and demonstrate our commitment to the protection and stewardship of the cave. 
We need to raise approximately $3300 to cover our end of the deal. 

 

If you are interested in helping the project, please consider a cash pledge to 
help in alleviating the costs. Powell’s Cave has been an important part of 
Texas caving for more than 50 years, and hopefully will be open to recreational 
caving and research for many years to come. If all goes well, there will be 
clean up and restoration trips in the future that folks can volunteer for. Any 
and all donations of time and money are greatly appreciated.

 

Pledges can be sent to:

 

Gerald Atkinson – Powell’s Cave Liaison

jerryat...@aol.com

 

If you have any questions, please email me. Thanks !

 

Photos courtesy of Arron Wertheim (May 2016)









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2016-06-11 Thread Scott C via Texascavers
Carl,
Very interesting article :) Thanks! Sounds like a cool cave I and others in our 
grotto would love to explore! 
I might be wrong in this, but it seems like to me there might be a number of 
these types of cool caves. Caves that were very popular in past years, but for 
some reason or another, currently, a lot of newer cavers never here about them 
anymore or don't seem to have access. I completely understand the issue of 
landowner relations that you brought up in your article. It's just kind of sad 
to me that more grotto members don't have access or knowledge of a lot of these 
caves. I really hope that we can move to increase knowledge and access to these 
awesome caves. I'd love to explore them, and I know a lot of other newer cavers 
would as well. I mean we regularly here about and plan trips to Robber Baron, 
Whirlpool, Logan's, Airman's, now O-9 Well, and Deep & Punkin' which are 
awesome! However, the same small slate of caves kind of get stale after a 
while. But then Midnight and others are right there in Carta Valley, and the 
majority of us can't get into them. Only a small group with special access 
visits them. That also happens with Perry Water Cave, and a number of other 
caves in Texas. However, when we take our yearly grotto trip up to TAG, even 
though we're total outsiders, we can get permits and visit tons of outstanding 
caves! I just wish that here in our home state it didn't feel so restricted, 
and like some sort of back-channel type of system for individuals or grottos to 
visit all the terrific caves our state has to offer. Thanks.
Are you going to be at NSS this year? I'd like to check out your book. 
Sincerely,
Scott CogburnGreater Houston GrottoTreasurer 

On Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:44 PM, Scott C via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
 

 Carl,
Thanks so much for the link! I'll check it out :)
Cheers,
Scott CogburnGreater Houston GrottoTreasurer 

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a reminder that the gate still needs funding.  Jerry.

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From: Jerry <jerryat...@aol.com>
Date: June 9, 2016 at 3:21:56 AM MDT
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :


Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help
 Powell’s Cave is the second longest cave in Texas, with 26.1 km of surveyed 
passage. Treasure hunters dug the historic entrance open in the early 1900s and 
it is now stabilized with a concrete culvert installed by volunteer cavers in 
the late 1990s. The cave is used as a roost by a large colony of Cave Myotis 
(Myotis velifer). Recently, during a scheduled visit to the cave, it was 
discovered that trespassers had entered the cave and vandalized it, leaving 
cans, bottles, and other miscellaneous trash in the cave. Unfortunately, this 
also included spray-painting graffiti on the cave walls in the Crevice Passage 
(see attached photos).  Concerns about protecting the integrity of the cave as 
well as the vulnerable bat colony (estimated at about 10,000 individuals) have 
led to the decision to install an above ground, bat-friendly, cupola-style 
gate, similar to the one recently built for Ezell’s Cave in Hays County. Jim 
Kennedy of Kennedy Above/Under Ground LLC has been contracted to build the gate 
and it is hoped that it will be completed sometime in the next month or so. As 
part of the agreement with the landowner, cavers will be paying for the labor 
and ancillary costs of the gate construction, while the landowner will pay for 
the materials. This was done to support continuing landowner relations and 
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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-11 Thread Scott C via Texascavers
Carl,
Thanks so much for the link! I'll check it out :)
Cheers,
Scott CogburnGreater Houston GrottoTreasurer 

On Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:08 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
 

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to help fund this.  Marvin  From: Texascavers 
[mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Jerryatkin via 
Texascavers
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:29 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :  Just 
a reminder that the gate still needs funding.  Jerry.

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Begin forwarded message:
From: Jerry <jerryat...@aol.com>
Date: June 9, 2016 at 3:21:56 AM MDT
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :


Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help
 Powell’s Cave is the second longest cave in Texas, with 26.1 km of surveyed 
passage. Treasure hunters dug the historic entrance open in the early 1900s and 
it is now stabilized with a concrete culvert installed by volunteer cavers in 
the late 1990s. The cave is used as a roost by a large colony of Cave Myotis 
(Myotis velifer). Recently, during a scheduled visit to the cave, it was 
discovered that trespassers had entered the cave and vandalized it, leaving 
cans, bottles, and other miscellaneous trash in the cave. Unfortunately, this 
also included spray-painting graffiti on the cave walls in the Crevice Passage 
(see attached photos).  Concerns about protecting the integrity of the cave as 
well as the vulnerable bat colony (estimated at about 10,000 individuals) have 
led to the decision to install an above ground, bat-friendly, cupola-style 
gate, similar to the one recently built for Ezell’s Cave in Hays County. Jim 
Kennedy of Kennedy Above/Under Ground LLC has been contracted to build the gate 
and it is hoped that it will be completed sometime in the next month or so. As 
part of the agreement with the landowner, cavers will be paying for the labor 
and ancillary costs of the gate construction, while the landowner will pay for 
the materials. This was done to support continuing landowner relations and 
demonstrate our commitment to the protection and stewardship of the cave. We 
need to raise approximately $3300 to cover our end of the deal.  If you are 
interested in helping the project, please consider a cash pledge to help in 
alleviating the costs. Powell’s Cave has been an important part of Texas caving 
for more than 50 years, and hopefully will be open to recreational caving and 
research for many years to come. If all goes well, there will be clean up and 
restoration trips in the future that folks can volunteer for. Any and all 
donations of time and money are greatly appreciated. Pledges can be sent to: 
Gerald Atkinson – Powell’s Cave liaisonjerryat...@aol.com If you have any 
questions, please email me. Thanks ! Photos courtesy of Arron Wertheim (May 
2016)





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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

2016-06-11 Thread Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers
Jerry,

 

I plan to make a motion at tommorrow’s grotto meeting to help fund this.

 

Marvin

 

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerryatkin via Texascavers
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:29 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :

 

Just a reminder that the gate still needs funding.

 

Jerry.

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From: Jerry <jerryat...@aol.com <mailto:jerryat...@aol.com> >
Date: June 9, 2016 at 3:21:56 AM MDT
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> 
Subject: Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help :


Powell’s Cave Gate Project Needs Your Help


 Powell’s Cave is the second longest cave in Texas, with 26.1 km of surveyed 
passage. Treasure hunters dug the historic entrance open in the early 1900s and 
it is now stabilized with a concrete culvert installed by volunteer cavers in 
the late 1990s. The cave is used as a roost by a large colony of Cave Myotis 
(Myotis velifer). Recently, during a scheduled visit to the cave, it was 
discovered that trespassers had entered the cave and vandalized it, leaving 
cans, bottles, and other miscellaneous trash in the cave. Unfortunately, this 
also included spray-painting graffiti on the cave walls in the Crevice Passage 
(see attached photos). 

 

Concerns about protecting the integrity of the cave as well as the vulnerable 
bat colony (estimated at about 10,000 individuals) have led to the decision to 
install an above ground, bat-friendly, cupola-style gate, similar to the one 
recently built for Ezell’s Cave in Hays County. Jim Kennedy of Kennedy 
Above/Under Ground LLC has been contracted to build the gate and it is hoped 
that it will be completed sometime in the next month or so.

 

As part of the agreement with the landowner, cavers will be paying for the 
labor and ancillary costs of the gate construction, while the landowner will 
pay for the materials. This was done to support continuing landowner relations 
and demonstrate our commitment to the protection and stewardship of the cave. 
We need to raise approximately $3300 to cover our end of the deal. 

 

If you are interested in helping the project, please consider a cash pledge to 
help in alleviating the costs. Powell’s Cave has been an important part of 
Texas caving for more than 50 years, and hopefully will be open to recreational 
caving and research for many years to come. If all goes well, there will be 
clean up and restoration trips in the future that folks can volunteer for. Any 
and all donations of time and money are greatly appreciated.

 

Pledges can be sent to:

 

Gerald Atkinson – Powell’s Cave Liaison

jerryat...@aol.com <mailto:jerryat...@aol.com> 

 

If you have any questions, please email me. Thanks !

 

Photos courtesy of Arron Wertheim (May 2016)





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