Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

There are more ranches out here. I don't know much about them. There are
caves and one of Bill Koock's friends wants to buy a huge ranch to do
hydrophobic agriculture. We have been walking a lot of these hills and
looking at a lot of ranches. The dry fork of the Nueches is one place we
have looked, there are wet creeks there with good water, now. The other
fork of the Nueches is very low despite a few rains and looks pitiful.
There are ranches near Vance and on the highway to Rock Springs. I looked
there a few years ago for Austin Energy to put in a solar farm on about 200
acres. The transmission lines were a problem since there aren't any. There
are a bunch of places and they all have large houses. One ranch belongs to
the Special Forces and is a 5,000 acer training facility with jet
accessible runway and such. Very nice and visible on Goggle Earth.
The major problem is size and cost. these folks love their land and want a
pretty penny for it.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers <
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> Thanks, Charles.
> Fritz
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> On Sep 3, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> It is 6, acres and a about 30 miles from my house which is like in the
> middle of nowhere. 45 Miles from Uvalde and 50 from Rock Springs. Not an
> easy fit and down a gravel road 15 miles. Good for maybe goats and there is
> a herd of Zebras on it.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves
>> & a spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can
>> dream...)
>>
>> Chris Vreeland,
>> some guy in Austin
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Bob Oakley via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars
>>
>> bob oakley
>> Uvalde county
>> a452...@outlook.com
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>>
>> Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a
>> great project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Bob Oakley via Texascavers]

the ranch sold last week for 6 million I was told

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Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves & a 
spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can dream...)




Chris Vreeland, 

some guy in Austin


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I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars




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Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a great 
project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .

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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Butch Fralia (CAVEDBA) via Texascavers]

Surely there's some benevolent power ball winner out there who would like to 
donate the land for a permanent TCR!

 

 

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It is 6, acres and a about 30 miles from my house which is like in the 
middle of nowhere. 45 Miles from Uvalde and 50 from Rock Springs. Not an easy 
fit and down a gravel road 15 miles. Good for maybe goats and there is a herd 
of Zebras on it.

 

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Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves & a 
spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can dream...)

 

Chris Vreeland, 

some guy in Austin


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I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars

 

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Uvalde county

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Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a great 
project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .

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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Logan McNatt via Texascavers]

6, acres? How many is that?

On 9/3/2014 11:21 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers wrote:

Thanks, Charles.
Fritz

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On Sep 3, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:

It is 6, acres and a about 30 miles from my house which is like in the middle of nowhere. 45 Miles from Uvalde and 50 from Rock Springs. 
Not an easy fit and down a gravel road 15 miles. Good for maybe goats and there is a herd of Zebras on it.



On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers 
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Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves & 
a spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple!
(I can dream...)

Chris Vreeland,
some guy in Austin

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I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars

bob oakley
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Fritz Holt via Texascavers]

Thanks, Charles. 
Fritz

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> On Sep 3, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is 6, acres and a about 30 miles from my house which is like in the 
> middle of nowhere. 45 Miles from Uvalde and 50 from Rock Springs. Not an easy 
> fit and down a gravel road 15 miles. Good for maybe goats and there is a herd 
> of Zebras on it.
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves & a 
>> spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can dream...)
>> 
>> Chris Vreeland, 
>> some guy in Austin
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Bob Oakley via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars
>>> 
>>> bob oakley
>>> Uvalde county
>>> a452...@outlook.com
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>>> project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Linda Palit via Texascavers]

Do not have that big a credit stream. If you know somebody that does, let
me know.

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
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> It is 6, acres and a about 30 miles from my house which is like in the
> middle of nowhere. 45 Miles from Uvalde and 50 from Rock Springs. Not an
> easy fit and down a gravel road 15 miles. Good for maybe goats and there is
> a herd of Zebras on it.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves
>> & a spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can
>> dream...)
>>
>> Chris Vreeland,
>> some guy in Austin
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Bob Oakley via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars
>>
>> bob oakley
>> Uvalde county
>> a452...@outlook.com 
>>
>> Sent from Windows Mail
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>>
>>
>> Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a
>> great project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

It is 6, acres and a about 30 miles from my house which is like in the
middle of nowhere. 45 Miles from Uvalde and 50 from Rock Springs. Not an
easy fit and down a gravel road 15 miles. Good for maybe goats and there is
a herd of Zebras on it.


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> Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves &
> a spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can
> dream...)
>
> Chris Vreeland,
> some guy in Austin
>
> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Bob Oakley via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars
>
> bob oakley
> Uvalde county
> a452...@outlook.com
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
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> Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a great
> project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

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Buy it all, then subdivide & sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves & a 
spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can dream...)

Chris Vreeland, 
some guy in Austin

> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Bob Oakley via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars
> 
> bob oakley
> Uvalde county
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> 
> Sent from Windows Mail
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> Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a great 
> project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

Mike Wharton knows a lot about the area. The falling Waters ranch is
accessible. If someone wants to make a trip I might be able to talk to the
new owners. There are a lot of cave rich riches around here. Wharton is
making his bigger.


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>
> Charles,
> I am familiar with your area, Camp Wood and north. Approximately where is
> FW Ranch? I assume it
> has creek frontage but not Nueces River frontage.
> Fritz Holt
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> On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> Was on Falling Water ranch a few weeks ago. It indeed has two caves and it
> is 6,000 acre as with a beautiful house and cabins and running water. I
> walked it with the foreman and went onto the bigger cave, and have a photo
> someplace. It is gated and easy to get around in. There is a running creek
> in it that is four or five feet deep.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> For those that are in the market for some ranch land with two caves - AND
>> you don't want to check it out thru Facebook, here's the link:
>>
>> Falling Waters Ranch
>> 
>>
>>
>> Scott D. Boyd
>> scottd...@gmail.com
>>
>> GPS Technician - TX, LA, AR
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Fritz Holt via Texascavers]

Charles,
I am familiar with your area, Camp Wood and north. Approximately where is FW 
Ranch? I assume it
has creek frontage but not Nueces River frontage. 
Fritz Holt
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> On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Was on Falling Water ranch a few weeks ago. It indeed has two caves and it is 
> 6,000 acre as with a beautiful house and cabins and running water. I walked 
> it with the foreman and went onto the bigger cave, and have a photo 
> someplace. It is gated and easy to get around in. There is a running creek in 
> it that is four or five feet deep.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> For those that are in the market for some ranch land with two caves - AND 
>> you don't want to check it out thru Facebook, here's the link:
>> 
>> Falling Waters Ranch
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Joe Ranzau via Texascavers]

Christi Burrell held the contact for the past decade or so until the long
time owners sold about a year ago.  I'd ask that folks give her time to try
to reestablish contact (maybe through Igor) before they try to arrange
their own.

She was always very good about taking other groups out there.

Cheers!

Joe


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers <
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> It sold for $6,000,000 last week. The guy that owned it is from Wisconsin
> but hangs out in San Antonio.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Charles Loving 
> wrote:
>
>> Was on Falling Water ranch a few weeks ago. It indeed has two caves and
>> it is 6,000 acre as with a beautiful house and cabins and running water. I
>> walked it with the foreman and went onto the bigger cave, and have a photo
>> someplace. It is gated and easy to get around in. There is a running creek
>> in it that is four or five feet deep.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For those that are in the market for some ranch land with two caves -
>>> AND you don't want to check it out thru Facebook, here's the link:
>>>
>>> Falling Waters Ranch
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott D. Boyd
>>> scottd...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> GPS Technician - TX, LA, AR
>>> *Professional Transportation, Inc.*
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

It sold for $6,000,000 last week. The guy that owned it is from Wisconsin
but hangs out in San Antonio.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Charles Loving  wrote:

> Was on Falling Water ranch a few weeks ago. It indeed has two caves and it
> is 6,000 acre as with a beautiful house and cabins and running water. I
> walked it with the foreman and went onto the bigger cave, and have a photo
> someplace. It is gated and easy to get around in. There is a running creek
> in it that is four or five feet deep.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> For those that are in the market for some ranch land with two caves - AND
>> you don't want to check it out thru Facebook, here's the link:
>>
>> Falling Waters Ranch
>> 
>>
>>
>> Scott D. Boyd
>> scottd...@gmail.com
>>
>> GPS Technician - TX, LA, AR
>> *Professional Transportation, Inc.*
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

Was on Falling Water ranch a few weeks ago. It indeed has two caves and it
is 6,000 acre as with a beautiful house and cabins and running water. I
walked it with the foreman and went onto the bigger cave, and have a photo
someplace. It is gated and easy to get around in. There is a running creek
in it that is four or five feet deep.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> For those that are in the market for some ranch land with two caves - AND
> you don't want to check it out thru Facebook, here's the link:
>
> Falling Waters Ranch
> 
>
>
> Scott D. Boyd
> scottd...@gmail.com
>
> GPS Technician - TX, LA, AR
> *Professional Transportation, Inc.*
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Bob Oakley via Texascavers]

I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars


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Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a great 
project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .

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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Nancy Weaver via Texascavers]

Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a great 
project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .

Nancy
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[Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Scott Boyd via Texascavers]

For those that are in the market for some ranch land with two caves - AND
you don't want to check it out thru Facebook, here's the link:

Falling Waters Ranch



Scott D. Boyd
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