[Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

2014-02-13 Thread John Kerr
FWIW.

*http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/*


RE: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

2014-02-13 Thread Geary Schindel
When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your policy for 
sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.

When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile from the 
museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were large sinkholes 
right in the trailer park.

It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building and/or the 
cars.

Geary

From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
To: jck...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

Thanks!  I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that property 
(offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by insurance if damaged 
by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion specifically for sinkholes.  Granted, I 
live on the Gulf Coast, and the only sinkholes are on streets from underground 
leaking pipes. I got the impression from the article that this exclusion is 
national, not just in cave areas.

julia



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Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
FWIW.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/


Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

2014-02-13 Thread Phil Winkler
I was surprised to see it is located directly alongside the I-65 interstate 
hwy. One would think the highway engineers would have known of the presence of  
cave system there. You can see it easily on Google-Earth.


On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

 When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your policy for 
 sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.
  
 When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile from the 
 museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were large sinkholes 
 right in the trailer park.
  
 It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building and/or the 
 cars.
  
 Geary
  
 From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
 To: jck...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
  
 Thanks!  I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that property 
 (offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by insurance if damaged 
 by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion specifically for sinkholes.  Granted, I 
 live on the Gulf Coast, and the only sinkholes are on streets from 
 underground leaking pipes. I got the impression from the article that this 
 exclusion is national, not just in cave areas.
 
 julia
  
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: John Kerr jck...@gmail.com
 To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 11:32 am
 Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
 
 FWIW.
 http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/



Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

2014-02-13 Thread Julia Germany
Interesting, Geary!

I just Googled for more info.  This article is most interesting.  It also 
states that the museum does have insurance coverage for the cars and building.  
The article I read yesterday may have been a generic comment about insurance 
and sinkholesso perhaps the museum also had a rider

Note there are two pages to this article:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sinkhole-collapses-corvette-museum-kentucky-22477750

julia

 

 

 

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When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your policy for 
sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.
 
When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile from the 
museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were large sinkholes 
right in the trailer park.
 
It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building and/or the 
cars.
 
Geary
 
From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
To: jck...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
 
Thanks!  I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that property 
(offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by insurance if damaged 
by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion specifically for sinkholes.  Granted, I 
live on the Gulf Coast, and the only sinkholes are on streets from underground 
leaking pipes. I got the impression from the article that this exclusion is 
national, not just in cave areas.

julia

 

 

 

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From: John Kerr jck...@gmail.com
To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 11:32 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes


FWIW.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/






Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

2014-02-13 Thread Julie Jenkins
Duh, you'd think!

 On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Phil Winkler pw...@dca.net wrote:
 
 I was surprised to see it is located directly alongside the I-65 interstate 
 hwy. One would think the highway engineers would have known of the presence 
 of  cave system there. You can see it easily on Google-Earth.
 
 
 On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
 
 When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your policy for 
 sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.
  
 When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile from the 
 museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were large sinkholes 
 right in the trailer park.
  
 It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building and/or 
 the cars.
  
 Geary
  
 From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
 To: jck...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
  
 Thanks!  I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that property 
 (offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by insurance if 
 damaged by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion specifically for sinkholes.  
 Granted, I live on the Gulf Coast, and the only sinkholes are on streets 
 from underground leaking pipes. I got the impression from the article that 
 this exclusion is national, not just in cave areas.
 
 julia
  
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: John Kerr jck...@gmail.com
 To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 11:32 am
 Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
 
 FWIW.
 http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/
 


Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

2014-02-13 Thread Bill Walden

Julie, Phil, Geary and all,

As for Kentucky:

In the past highway engineers didn't seem to care. Today the Kentucky 
Speleological Survey is getting weekly requests for karst information 
from construction companies, consulting companies and from the state.


Bill Walden



On 2/13/2014 1:35 PM, Julie Jenkins wrote:

Duh, you'd think!

On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Phil Winkler pw...@dca.net 
mailto:pw...@dca.net wrote:


I was surprised to see it is located directly alongside the I-65 
interstate hwy. One would think the highway engineers would have 
known of the presence of  cave system there. You can see it easily on 
Google-Earth.



On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your 
policy for sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.
When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile 
from the museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were 
large sinkholes right in the trailer park.
It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building 
and/or the cars.

Geary
*From:*Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
*Sent:*Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
*To:*jck...@gmail.com 
mailto:jck...@gmail.com;texascavers@texascavers.com 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com

*Subject:*Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
Thanks!  I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that 
property (offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by 
insurance if damaged by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion 
specifically for sinkholes.  Granted, I live on the Gulf Coast, and 
the only sinkholes are on streets from underground leaking pipes. I 
got the impression from the article that this exclusion is national, 
not just in cave areas.


julia

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Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

FWIW.
_http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/_



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Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes: Inner Space Cavern in Texas

2014-02-13 Thread Logan McNatt

The Texas Highway Department became aware in 1963 during the construction of 
Interstate 35 through Georgetown, north of Austin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvZYOtgsCrw


On 2/13/2014 5:49 PM, Bill Walden wrote:

Julie, Phil, Geary and all,

As for Kentucky:

In the past highway engineers didn't seem to care. Today the Kentucky Speleological Survey is getting weekly requests for karst information 
from construction companies, consulting companies and from the state.


Bill Walden



On 2/13/2014 1:35 PM, Julie Jenkins wrote:

Duh, you'd think!

On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Phil Winkler pw...@dca.net 
mailto:pw...@dca.net wrote:

I was surprised to see it is located directly alongside the I-65 interstate hwy. One would think the highway engineers would have known of 
the presence of  cave system there. You can see it easily on Google-Earth.



On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


When I lived up that way, you could get a specific rider on your policy for 
sinkholes and geotechnical foundation issues.
When I was in graduate school, I lived in a trailer about a mile from the museum and maybe a mile from the corvette plant. There were large 
sinkholes right in the trailer park.

It would be interesting to see if their policy covers the building and/or the 
cars.
Geary
*From:*Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
*Sent:*Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:51 AM
*To:*jck...@gmail.com mailto:jck...@gmail.com;texascavers@texascavers.com 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com
*Subject:*Re: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes
Thanks!  I read this yesterday, and was surprised to learn that property (offices, homes), including vehicles, are NOT covered by insurance 
if damaged by a sinkhole. There is an exclusion specifically for sinkholes. Granted, I live on the Gulf Coast, and the only sinkholes are 
on streets from underground leaking pipes. I got the impression from the article that this exclusion is national, not just in cave areas.


julia

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Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 11:32 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole in KY claims Corvettes

FWIW.
_http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/02/12/moment-sinkhole-opens-under-corvette-museum-caught-on-camera/_



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