Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread via Texascavers 
That said, it is often the case that the relative value of an article is 
inversely proportional to the number of authors cited. Given the current frenzy 
to publish and be recognized for Pd work, it would not be surprising if the 
number of authors exceeded the length of the article.

Jerry Atkinson.

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On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
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> Diana,
> 
> Very well said, I was thinking of replying also but you hit the nail on the 
> head. Most research these days are a collaboration between many scientists 
> and laboratories. I think the best example I've seen is some of the Super 
> Collider work that might have 150 authors for a paper. 
> 
> Geary Schindel
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> Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
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> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article
> 
> Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article.
> 
> It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In 
> fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing 
> much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals.
> 
> It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or more 
> of the following:
> 
> Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the experiment 
> Collecting data Analyzing data Presenting data (in graphical, written or 
> other forms such as videos, etc.) Supervising the people that collect, 
> analyze and present the data Drawing important conclusions from the data and 
> testing new hypotheses that result from this all-important step Writing the 
> text of the final document
> 
> You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors—as they are the 
> ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published work. If there 
> are any questions about what is presented in the work, everyone knows who is 
> responsible.
> 
> We call this transparency, which unfortunately is lacking in other important 
> human endeavors.
> 
> Diana
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>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
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>> Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. 
>> How many of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., 
>> writers? How many of them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
Diana,

Very well said, I was thinking of replying also but you hit the nail on the 
head. Most research these days are a collaboration between many scientists and 
laboratories. I think the best example I've seen is some of the Super Collider 
work that might have 150 authors for a paper. 

Geary Schindel
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org  

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Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:16 PM
To: Cave Tex <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article.

It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In 
fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing 
much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals.

It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or more of 
the following:

Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the experiment 
Collecting data Analyzing data Presenting data (in graphical, written or other 
forms such as videos, etc.) Supervising the people that collect, analyze and 
present the data Drawing important conclusions from the data and testing new 
hypotheses that result from this all-important step Writing the text of the 
final document

You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors—as they are the 
ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published work. If there 
are any questions about what is presented in the work, everyone knows who is 
responsible.

We call this transparency, which unfortunately is lacking in other important 
human endeavors.

Diana

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Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry University of Texas Southwestern 
Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. 
> How many of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., 
> writers? How many of them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon
> 
> Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged.
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Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article.

It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In 
fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing 
much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals.

It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or more of 
the following:

Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the experiment
Collecting data
Analyzing data
Presenting data (in graphical, written or other forms such as videos, etc.)
Supervising the people that collect, analyze and present the data
Drawing important conclusions from the data and testing new hypotheses that 
result from this all-important step
Writing the text of the final document

You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors—as they are the 
ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published work. If there 
are any questions about what is presented in the work, everyone knows who is 
responsible.

We call this transparency, which unfortunately is lacking in other important 
human endeavors.

Diana

**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Cavers Texas  
> wrote:
>
> Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. How many 
> of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., writers? How many of 
> them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon
> 
> Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged.
> 
> You may "reply" to the address this message
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Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. How many of 
those people do you think were really authors, i.e., writers? How many of them 
were just bottle washers? -- Mixon

Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged.

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[Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article

2016-08-31 Thread Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
In the latest issue of mSphere, the American Society for Microbiology open 
access journal.

Anyone should have the ability to access and download this article.


First Detection of Bat White-Nose Syndrome in Western North America
Jeffrey M. Lorch, Jonathan M. Palmer, Daniel L. Lindner, Anne E.
Ballmann, Kyle G. George, Kathryn Griffin, Susan Knowles, John R.
Huckabee, Katherine H. Haman, Christopher D. Anderson, Penny A. Becker,
Joseph B. Buchanan, Jeffrey T. Foster, and David S. Blehert
mSphere July/August 2016 1:e00148-16; doi:10.1128/mSphere.00148-16

White-nose syndrome (WNS) represents one of the most consequential wildlife
diseases of modern times. Since it was first documented in New York in
2006, the disease has killed millions of bats and threatens several
formerly abundant species with extirpation or extinction. The spread of WNS
in eastern North America has been relatively gradual, inducing optimism
that disease mitigation strategies could be established in time to conserve
bats susceptible to WNS in western North America. The recent detection of
the fungus that causes WNS in the Pacific Northwest, far from its previous
known distribution, increases the urgency for understanding the long-term
impacts of this disease and for developing strategies to conserve imperiled
bat species.

http://msphere.asm.org/content/1/4/e00148-16.abstract?etoc

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