Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Thanks, Don. June and I plan to be there after having missed last month's convention. Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com 713-818-2496 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Paradise Canyon October 15, 16, 17 18. --Don On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, What are the dates and location for this years TCR? Others may also want to hear this again. Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com 713-818-2496 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Sounds good, I had planned to bring it to get aerial footage, much like I did at TSA. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, Bring it to TCR this year. There is a cavy looking lead high up in the cliff that the owner has seen coyotes coming and going. He wants us to check it out. We could do the drone first, then try to reach it from above. Kurt -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:35 PM To: Cavetex Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Thanks, Lyndon. Fritz Holt Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Oct. 15 to 18, 2015. -- Lyndon Tiu On Apr 28, 2015 12:53 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, What are the dates and location for this years TCR? Others may also want to hear this again. Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com 713-818-2496 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Sounds good, I had planned to bring it to get aerial footage, much like I did at TSA. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, Bring it to TCR this year. There is a cavy looking lead high up in the cliff that the owner has seen coyotes coming and going. He wants us to check it out. We could do the drone first, then try to reach it from above. Kurt -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:35 PM To: Cavetex Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
It's prohibited in Texas State Parks as well. -Tucek On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Not that it’s much of an issue in Texas, but remember drone photography is prohibited in National Parks. A guy in Hawaii forgot about this rule yesterday and got tasered. http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Ranger-uses-stun-gun-on-man-operating-drone-over-6229716.php#photo-7886918 -Frank Binney On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I would not recommend flying the drone into Punkin Cave. Its swallow nesting season. From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Not all Texas State Parks prohibit it, some do. Always research and ask before flying a drone in public property. Charles On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: It's prohibited in Texas State Parks as well. -Tucek On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Not that it’s much of an issue in Texas, but remember drone photography is prohibited in National Parks. A guy in Hawaii forgot about this rule yesterday and got tasered. http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Ranger-uses-stun-gun-on-man-operating-drone-over-6229716.php#photo-7886918 -Frank Binney On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I would not recommend flying the drone into Punkin Cave. Its swallow nesting season. From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Not that it¹s much of an issue in Texas, but remember drone photography is prohibited in National Parks. A guy in Hawaii forgot about this rule yesterday and got tasered. http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Ranger-uses-stun-gun-on-man-operating- drone-over-6229716.php#photo-7886918 -Frank Binney On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I would not recommend flying the drone into Punkin Cave. Its swallow nesting season. From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com http://texascavers.com/ Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
I would not recommend flying the drone into Punkin Cave. Its swallow nesting season. From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Winter would be better. --Don On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I would not recommend flying the drone into Punkin Cave. Its swallow nesting season. From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com To: Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Paradise Canyon October 15, 16, 17 18. --Don On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, What are the dates and location for this years TCR? Others may also want to hear this again. Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com 713-818-2496 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Sounds good, I had planned to bring it to get aerial footage, much like I did at TSA. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, Bring it to TCR this year. There is a cavy looking lead high up in the cliff that the owner has seen coyotes coming and going. He wants us to check it out. We could do the drone first, then try to reach it from above. Kurt -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:35 PM To: Cavetex Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Charles, What are the dates and location for this years TCR? Others may also want to hear this again. Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com 713-818-2496 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Sounds good, I had planned to bring it to get aerial footage, much like I did at TSA. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, Bring it to TCR this year. There is a cavy looking lead high up in the cliff that the owner has seen coyotes coming and going. He wants us to check it out. We could do the drone first, then try to reach it from above. Kurt -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:35 PM To: Cavetex Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Oct. 15 to 18, 2015. -- Lyndon Tiu On Apr 28, 2015 12:53 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, What are the dates and location for this years TCR? Others may also want to hear this again. Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com 713-818-2496 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Sounds good, I had planned to bring it to get aerial footage, much like I did at TSA. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, Bring it to TCR this year. There is a cavy looking lead high up in the cliff that the owner has seen coyotes coming and going. He wants us to check it out. We could do the drone first, then try to reach it from above. Kurt -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:35 PM To: Cavetex Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Say the word. --Don On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Cool, I'd love to, but this weekend is no good, will be at a customer's site all weekend. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:08 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles I'm going to punkin an deep next weekend. Taking some plant folks. Punkin is more than big enough to fly around. If u wanna come down this weekend we have room on the trip Galen Falgout On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I've never been to Punkin, is there enough room? I'll gladly bring it down and we can give it a try. Might be some good footage for the TCMA members and/or website. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: At Punkin, through trip. --Don On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Charles I'm going to punkin an deep next weekend. Taking some plant folks. Punkin is more than big enough to fly around. If u wanna come down this weekend we have room on the trip Galen Falgout On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I've never been to Punkin, is there enough room? I'll gladly bring it down and we can give it a try. Might be some good footage for the TCMA members and/or website. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: At Punkin, through trip. --Don On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Cool, I'd love to, but this weekend is no good, will be at a customer's site all weekend. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:08 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles I'm going to punkin an deep next weekend. Taking some plant folks. Punkin is more than big enough to fly around. If u wanna come down this weekend we have room on the trip Galen Falgout On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I've never been to Punkin, is there enough room? I'll gladly bring it down and we can give it a try. Might be some good footage for the TCMA members and/or website. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: At Punkin, through trip. --Don On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
At Punkin, through trip. --Don On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Out of curiosity, does your drone stabilize itself with GPS? I've been wondering how the control characteristics might change on such a drone when in a cave environment where GPS is unavailable. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
I've never been to Punkin, is there enough room? I'll gladly bring it down and we can give it a try. Might be some good footage for the TCMA members and/or website. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: At Punkin, through trip. --Don On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
George, my model is GPS stabilized. There are other models that have a 2nd camera on that will stabilize for indoor environments. Some are limited to just looking at the floor, etc. Ideally, you would have proximity sensors on it, but I haven't researched to find a model to do that, probably out of my price range. They can get VERY expensive. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:45 PM, George D. Nincehelser via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Out of curiosity, does your drone stabilize itself with GPS? I've been wondering how the control characteristics might change on such a drone when in a cave environment where GPS is unavailable. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Charles, Bring it to TCR this year. There is a cavy looking lead high up in the cliff that the owner has seen coyotes coming and going. He wants us to check it out. We could do the drone first, then try to reach it from above. Kurt -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:35 PM To: Cavetex Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves
Sounds good, I had planned to bring it to get aerial footage, much like I did at TSA. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Charles, Bring it to TCR this year. There is a cavy looking lead high up in the cliff that the owner has seen coyotes coming and going. He wants us to check it out. We could do the drone first, then try to reach it from above. Kurt -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:35 PM To: Cavetex Subject: [Texascavers] Drone flying and caves I had a couple of people approach me about drones and caving this weekend at the TSA convention. I did not get names from people, and anytime there is alcohol involved, I'm not going to remember who. If you are interested in drone flying and more specifically if you have a trip or project that can benefit from me assisting with my drone, contact me off-list. I'll gladly assist as I can for any projects. Where I can see the drone helping is with ridge walking, checking out high leads in caves (that have enough room for the drone to maneuver) and also checking out leads on cliff faces. It can potentially be used to check out pits before dropping into one, depending on the size/nature of the pit. While it does pretty good in wind, that's a factor that has to be taken into account, as well as obstacles. We'll also have to keep it away from any bats, since it's a bit noisy and we don't want to disturb them. It might be useful in scaring off other varmits to move them away from an entrance (snakes, etc). Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
