texascavers Digest 13 Apr 2014 17:10:14 -0000 Issue 1962
Topics (messages 23676 through 23681):
Re: [NSSwest] Participate in a cave conservation research study
23676 by: Matt Bowers
Texas Caver
23677 by: Jill Orr
23678 by: Julia Germany
My late night thoughts during insomnia
23679 by: Lee H. Skinner
Big Room
23680 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
Re: [SWR] My late night thoughts during insomnia
23681 by: Lee H. Skinner
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Cavers -
Speleo-climatology is a growing area of scientific research. Sarah Truebe is
working to establish a set of best practices for future research projects.
If you have a chance, please consider sharing your opinions on the subject.
Thanks!
Please feel free to share this with your grottos.
Matt
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From: nssw...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nssw...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sarah Truebe
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:15 PM
To: nssw...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NSSwest] Participate in a cave conservation research study! Win a
$100 gift card! [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) <> from Sarah Truebe included below]
Hello Western Region!
I am a new transplant to California (moved from AZ in Jan), but I'm hoping
all of my new neighbors will do me the honor of taking this survey as a part
of my PhD research. I am working on my PhD in geosciences, and one of my
studies is to evaluate the sampling of speleothems for past climate
(paleoclimate) research. I am asking cavers, cave owners, cave managers,
cave scientists, and anyone else that enjoys, explores, or studies caves to
take the survey for my research (more details below the dotted line).
Please take this survey and forward it widely amongst your caving contacts!
Taking the survey allows you to enter into a drawing for one of seven $100
gift cards to Amazon or a cave gear website of your choice.
The link is here:
https://uarizona.co1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6llZGoHoNyBTCsJ
The survey will remain open until April 30, 2014.
More details are below. Many thanks in advance for your time!
Sincerely,
Sarah
NSS # 61563
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Speleothem Sampling Methods Survey
https://uarizona.co1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6llZGoHoNyBTCsJ
Who should take this survey?
This survey is for cavers, cave owners, cave managers, and cave scientists
other than paleoclimate scientists to gather a variety of opinions about
paleoclimate research and how it impacts caves. Paleoclimate scientists were
surveyed earlier to produce a list of current research practices, which was
used to build this survey.
What is this survey about?
Paleoclimate--or past climate--research uses the chemistry and mineralogy of
speleothems to reconstruct past climate, temperature, rainfall, etc.
Stalagmites are one of the best sources of this information, especially
where other sources (like lakes, trees, ice cores, and ocean sediments)
don't exist.
Sampling stalagmites for this type of research requires looking along the
growth axis, down the center of the speleothem. Generally, this means the
stalagmite must be sliced open and measured down the middle. Many scientists
are trying to minimize their impact on caves while doing this sampling, but
as a community of cave stakeholders, we can do better.
Taking this survey is the first step to initiating a community-wide
discussion between paleoclimate scientists and other cave stakeholders,
including recreational cavers, cave managers, cave owners, and other cave
scientists. The goal of this discussion is to emerge with a set of current
"best practice" guidelines for scientists and managers to be able to pursue
valuable past climate information while conserving valuable cave resources.
Your participation in this survey is voluntary. You may stop at any time.
This survey is anonymous.
There are no risks to participating in this survey.
The survey will take from 30-60 minutes.
At the end, you will be asked if you would like to enter your contact
information for a drawing for one of seven $100 gift cards to a vendor of
your choice. Your contact information is stored separately from your survey
responses.
For ease of use, please take the survey on a computer or tablet rather than
a mobile phone.
Thank you for your participation in this survey. If you have any questions
during the survey, or have any problems taking the survey, please feel free
to contact researcher Sarah Truebe (stru...@arizona.edu).
Take the survey here:
https://uarizona.co1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6llZGoHoNyBTCsJ
Thank you for your time and participation!
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Sarah A Truebe
PhD Candidate
Dept of Geosciences, University of Arizona
office: Gould-Simpson Bldg, Rm. 350
phone: 650-804-5413
http://u.arizona.edu/~struebe <http://u.arizona.edu/%7Estruebe>
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The December Texas Caver was sheepishly mailed this week. The printer even
called to ask if there was a typo
on the date. :- /. Good printer, that. Very embarrassed. Have heard of
other persons being such a procrastinator but I was never one like this
before. Sorry y'all. Butch has been sent copy for website - watch for your
electronic versions.
Please send articles ASAP for next issue so I can catch up...! Thanks for
your understanding and patience.
Jill
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Got mine in the mail Friday. Looks great!
julia
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From: Jill Orr <jill...@swbell.net>
To: Texascavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 11:47 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
The December Texas Caver was sheepishly mailed this week. The printer even
called to ask if there was a typo
on the date. :- /. Good printer, that. Very embarrassed. Have heard of other
persons being such a procrastinator but I was never one like this before. Sorry
y'all. Butch has been sent copy for website - watch for your electronic
versions.
Please send articles ASAP for next issue so I can catch up...! Thanks for your
understanding and patience.
Jill
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An observation about Karstbad Cavern: "The cave swallows cave swallows."
If blow holes are barometric, why aren't half of them called suck holes?
If "The Big Room" is a common name for a passage in caves, why isn't
"The Little Room"?
Do walking passages ever run or even stop walking?
Ever try to thread a gypsum needle?
Why aren't there more helicmites? Or cattooth spar? or calcite yachts?
Are fried egg stalagmites usually found with bacon?
Does any cave have a Gnu Section? Where is Sinkhole de Mayo?
Is a filled in sinkhole called a sinkwhole?
Group names: herd, flock, pride, school, swarm, covey, murder, bevy,
etc. But what would you call a group of cavers? I would suggest:
column as cavers generally go single file, and it makes one think of a
type of speleothem as well.
Lee Skinner
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Big Room
Well, Lee, you DO know that in a number of caves I have found pretty little
rooms. In fact, I think you followed my instructions into one in the past, and
grunting your way out (having given up trying to turn around in it), did agree
that yes, it WAS pretty little.
This small reminder from the one who also brought you the admonishment in the
60s that "No True Cavers Wear Kneepads!"
(We will leave "suck holes" alone ---------)
DirtDoc
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From: "Lee H. Skinner" <skin...@thuntek.net>
To: "SWR Mailing List" <s...@caver.net>, "texascavers list"
<texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 1:59:01 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] My late night thoughts during insomnia
An observation about Karstbad Cavern: "The cave swallows cave swallows."
If blow holes are barometric, why aren't half of them called suck holes?
If "The Big Room" is a common name for a passage in caves, why isn't "The
Little Room"?
Do walking passages ever run or even stop walking?
Ever try to thread a gypsum needle?
Why aren't there more helicmites? Or cattooth spar? or calcite yachts?
Are fried egg stalagmites usually found with bacon?
Does any cave have a Gnu Section? Where is Sinkhole de Mayo?
Is a filled in sinkhole called a sinkwhole?
Group names: herd, flock, pride, school, swarm, covey, murder, bevy, etc. But
what would you call a group of cavers? I would suggest: column as cavers
generally go single file, and it makes one think of a type of speleothem as
well.
Lee Skinner
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An observation about Karstbad Cavern: "The cave swallows cave swallows."
Sorry for the misspelling. It should be Karstbat Cavern.
Do walking passages ever run or even stop walking?
Is there a walking passage containing a running stream in Sitting Bull
Falls Cave?
For seeking all this speleowisdom, am I stark Raven mad? Tell me I implore!
Lee
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