texascavers Digest 16 Oct 2013 02:14:56 -0000 Issue 1864

Topics (messages 22874 through 22893):

>From the TCC - Mike Walsh
        22874 by: Charles Goldsmith

Government Canyon Karst Project
        22875 by: Marvin and Lisa

TCR firewood volunteers
        22876 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com
        22879 by: Nancy Weaver
        22880 by: Geary Schindel
        22884 by: Don Arburn

Re: TSA Election Results
        22877 by: Jim Kennedy
        22878 by: Julia Germany
        22882 by: ellie watson
        22885 by: Mimi Jasek
        22886 by: Ann Scott
        22887 by: Stefan Creaser
        22890 by: caverarch

Re: 65th Birthday party for Bill Steele at the Texas Caver's Reunion next Friday
        22881 by: Diana Tomchick

TSA election
        22883 by: Mixon Bill

UT Grotto Meeting October 16th
        22888 by: Andrea Croskrey

Greater Houston Grotto meeting tonight!
        22889 by: Mallory Mayeux

European version of Satellite Imagery viewer (Google Earth)
        22891 by: caverarch
        22892 by: Jesse Walker

October CBSP Project Trip Report
        22893 by: Kris Pena

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Once Last Note

As some of you may have heard, I have been experiencing a number of
personal problems for almost a year. I do not choose to involve the Texas
Caving Community with these problems.

 For that reason, I am making this announcement.

 I will be “going underground” and I will not send out any e-mails to
cavers concerning myself, Mike Walsh or the Texas Cave Conservancy.

Fake addresses are being used to create problems, please disregard them. I
will only communicate on the telephone at 512-249-2283. Please feel free to
give me a call. Thank you for your consideration.

Mike Walsh

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The November Government Canyon Karst Project will not be held on the first
weekend of the month as is usual. Instead the project date will be Sunday,
Nov. 10. This will be a Sunday only project. Camping is available for
Saturday and Sunday night. Contact me to arrange that, or with any other
project-related questions.
 
We meet at 9:00 at the Volunteer/Research Station. After entering the park
at the main gate, take the first right. Go through the closed gate (make
sure to close it again behind you) and proceed approximately 1 mile to the
VRS. We usually meet in the parking lot to the right.
 
Marvin Miller

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Just talked to Don Arburn. He just talked to the owner of P, Canyon, and he 
reports that there is plenty of dead cedar and oak, on the hillside above the 
road, that can be cut for TCR use. The owner would prefer that we burn his wood 
rather than bring in suspect oak. I am looking for volunteers to cut wood 
Thursday or Friday. Cutting after dark Friday or anytime Saturday makes too 
much noise. Having an open bed pickup would be helpful, as I would prefer to 
keep mine with me while I am working. It's a big job as we need wood for the 
hot tub, the sauna, the fire there, and a main campfire. I will have two saws 
available as soon as I get there on Thursday. Let me know if you can help. Pete 
512-897-9235

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what does anyone hear about water levels?  USGS site is down of course, tho the 
House gym is fully up and functional.

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The USGS stream gauges are up and running but they are not being calibrated. 
However, they should be pretty close unless there are issues with individual 
gauges.

We got good rains across the region ranging from 10 or more inches north 
(Austin area) and south (Crystal Springs) of San Antonio but Medina County and 
Bexar counties only received from one to 1.5 inches of rain.

Geary

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Weaver [mailto:nan...@prismnet.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:38 AM
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR firewood volunteers

what does anyone hear about water levels?  USGS site is down of course, tho the 
House gym is fully up and functional.
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They won't let any water into the lower dam area until Medina is 1/3 full. The 
riverbed is mostly dry, with a couple of ponds between the dam and the bridge 
at the ends of the park.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

> On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> The USGS stream gauges are up and running but they are not being calibrated. 
> However, they should be pretty close unless there are issues with individual 
> gauges.
> 
> We got good rains across the region ranging from 10 or more inches north 
> (Austin area) and south (Crystal Springs) of San Antonio but Medina County 
> and Bexar counties only received from one to 1.5 inches of rain.
> 
> Geary
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Weaver [mailto:nan...@prismnet.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:38 AM
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR firewood volunteers
> 
> what does anyone hear about water levels?  USGS site is down of course, tho 
> the House gym is fully up and functional.
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I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including write-ins, 
invalid votes, etc. 

Jim

Mobile email from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one 
> candidate for each office?
> 
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
> From: donarb...@mac.com
> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
> To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
> 
> Congratulations!!
> 
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don
> 
> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> TSA Members, 
> 
> TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce 
> the following winners:
> 
> Chairman- Kurt Menking
> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
> Secretary -Heather Tucek
> Treasurer- Anne Scott
> 
> Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014. 
> 
> We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email 
> addresses on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!
> 

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 I ditto that request.

Thanks!
julia

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com>
To: Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com>
Cc: Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com>; ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; 
texas cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results




I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including write-ins, 
invalid votes, etc. 


Jim

Mobile email from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:



Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one candidate 
for each office?



CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
From: donarb...@mac.com
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results


Congratulations!!

Sent cellularly.
-Don


On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:



TSA Members, 


TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce the 
following winners:


Chairman- Kurt Menking
Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
Secretary -Heather Tucek
Treasurer- Anne Scott


Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014. 


We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email addresses 
on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!



                                          




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   *President* *# Votes*  Kurt Menking 87  Don Arburn (write-in) 2  Jim
Kennedy (write-in) 1

 *Vice-President* *# Votes*  Roger Moore 89  Mark Gee (write-in) 1

 *Treasurer* *# Votes*  Anne Scott 87

 *Secretary* *# Votes*  Heather Tucek 90


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>  I ditto that request.
>
> Thanks!
> julia
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com>
> To: Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com>; ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>;
> texas cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>
>   I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including
> write-ins, invalid votes, etc.
>
>  Jim
>
> Mobile email from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one
> candidate for each office?
>
> ------------------------------
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
> From: donarb...@mac.com
> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
> To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>
> Congratulations!!
>
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don
>
> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>   TSA Members,
>
>  TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to
> announce the following winners:
>
>  Chairman- Kurt Menking
> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
> Secretary -Heather Tucek
> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>
>  Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014.
>
>  We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email
> addresses on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!
>
>

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Thank you , Ellie, for these results, and all else you did to make the election 
happen!

And a BIG congrats and thank you to those who won! You stepped up to fill 
thankless jobs in order for our group to go forward once again, and I for one 
appreciate your willingness to put forth the effort. 

TSA is good for another year.

Mimi Jasek

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:13 AM, ellie watson <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> President     # Votes
> Kurt Menking  87
> Don Arburn (write-in) 2
> Jim Kennedy (write-in)        1
> 
> 
> Vice-President        # Votes
> Roger Moore   89
> Mark Gee (write-in)   1
> 
> 
> Treasurer     # Votes
> Anne Scott    87
> 
> 
> Secretary     # Votes
> Heather Tucek 90
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I ditto that request.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> julia
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com>
>> To: Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com>; ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; 
>> texas cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>> 
>> I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including 
>> write-ins, invalid votes, etc. 
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> Mobile email from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one 
>>> candidate for each office?
>>> 
>>> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
>>> From: donarb...@mac.com
>>> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
>>> To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>>> 
>>> Congratulations!!
>>> 
>>> Sent cellularly.
>>> -Don
>>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> TSA Members, 
>>> 
>>> TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce 
>>> the following winners:
>>> 
>>> Chairman- Kurt Menking
>>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>>> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>>> 
>>> Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014. 
>>> 
>>> We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email 
>>> addresses on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!
> 

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Thank you for the 87 votes of confidence!!
I look forward to serving the TSA!!
Ann


On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:13 AM, ellie watson <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> President     # Votes
> Kurt Menking  87
> Don Arburn (write-in) 2
> Jim Kennedy (write-in)        1
> 
> 
> Vice-President        # Votes
> Roger Moore   89
> Mark Gee (write-in)   1
> 
> 
> Treasurer     # Votes
> Anne Scott    87
> 
> 
> Secretary     # Votes
> Heather Tucek 90
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> I ditto that request.
> 
> Thanks!
> julia
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com>
> To: Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com>; ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; 
> texas cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
> 
> I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including 
> write-ins, invalid votes, etc. 
> 
> Jim
> 
> Mobile email from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one 
>> candidate for each office?
>> 
>> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
>> From: donarb...@mac.com
>> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
>> To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>> 
>> Congratulations!!
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> TSA Members, 
>> 
>> TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce 
>> the following winners:
>> 
>> Chairman- Kurt Menking
>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>> 
>> Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014. 
>> 
>> We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email 
>> addresses on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!
>> 
> 


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I demand a recount!

;-)

-Stefan
________________________________________
From: Ann Scott [mayaca...@mail.utexas.edu]
Sent: 14 October 2013 23:24
To: ellie watson
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results

Thank you for the 87 votes of confidence!!
I look forward to serving the TSA!!
Ann


On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:13 AM, ellie watson <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> President     # Votes
> Kurt Menking  87
> Don Arburn (write-in) 2
> Jim Kennedy (write-in)        1
>
>
> Vice-President        # Votes
> Roger Moore   89
> Mark Gee (write-in)   1
>
>
> Treasurer     # Votes
> Anne Scott    87
>
>
> Secretary     # Votes
> Heather Tucek 90
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I ditto that request.
>
> Thanks!
> julia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com>
> To: Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com>; ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; 
> texas cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>
> I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including 
> write-ins, invalid votes, etc.
>
> Jim
>
> Mobile email from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one 
>> candidate for each office?
>>
>> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
>> From: donarb...@mac.com
>> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
>> To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>>
>> Congratulations!!
>>
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> TSA Members,
>>
>> TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce 
>> the following winners:
>>
>> Chairman- Kurt Menking
>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>>
>> Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014.
>>
>> We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email 
>> addresses on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!
>>
>


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So do I!


Roger Moore



-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Creaser <stefan.crea...@arm.com>
To: Ann Scott <mayaca...@mail.utexas.edu>; ellie watson <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>
Cc: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 14, 2013 11:35 pm
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results


I demand a recount!

;-)

-Stefan
________________________________________
From: Ann Scott [mayaca...@mail.utexas.edu]
Sent: 14 October 2013 23:24
To: ellie watson
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results

Thank you for the 87 votes of confidence!!
I look forward to serving the TSA!!
Ann


On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:13 AM, ellie watson <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> President     # Votes
> Kurt Menking  87
> Don Arburn (write-in) 2
> Jim Kennedy (write-in)        1
>
>
> Vice-President        # Votes
> Roger Moore   89
> Mark Gee (write-in)   1
>
>
> Treasurer     # Votes
> Anne Scott    87
>
>
> Secretary     # Votes
> Heather Tucek 90
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Julia Germany <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I ditto that request.
>
> Thanks!
> julia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kennedy <cavercr...@gmail.com>
> To: Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com>; ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; 
texas cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>
> I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including 
write-ins, invalid votes, etc.
>
> Jim
>
> Mobile email from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one 
candidate for each office?
>>
>> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
>> From: donarb...@mac.com
>> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500
>> To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
>>
>> Congratulations!!
>>
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> TSA Members,
>>
>> TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce 
the following winners:
>>
>> Chairman- Kurt Menking
>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>> Treasurer- Anne Scott
>>
>> Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014.
>>
>> We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email 
addresses on file.  Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!
>>
>


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Fritz,

Feel free to bring anything additional that you will like for the Friday night 
BBQ, but we will provide buns and bratwurst and condiments.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)







On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Fritz Holt wrote:

> Ellie,
> I will bring lots of fresh bread/buns for the Q for those who prefer a 
> sandwich, unless it is already taken care of. Please advise.
> Fritz
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:21 PM, ellie watson <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Cavers!
>>
>> Party time is upon us and here's another excuse to party!
>>
>> Diana Tomchick is hosting (with the assistance of Stefan Creaser) a 65th 
>> birthday party for Bill Steele on the evening of Friday Oct. 18th, the 
>> location will be near the cook's area for the Saturday night dinner. The 
>> party will start around 6 PM and we'll have a couple of BBQ grills going 
>> with bratwurst and the fixin's, plus Shiner beer (the Beer of Texas Cavers). 
>> There will be no charge for the food and beer, but we would like to ask you 
>> to bring a dish to share if you can. There will also be a birthday cake and 
>> I understand there will be entertainment (Bill can fill you in on the 
>> details about that). Please drop by and wish Bill a happy 65th birthday!
>>
>> The 2013 Texas Cavers' Reunion is October 17-20, and detailed info about the 
>> event can be found at the following web site:
>>
>> http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TCR/
>>


________________________________

UT Southwestern Medical Center
The future of medicine, today.


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Howdy Texas Cavers!

Join us at the UT Grotto meeting this Wednesday, October 16th, to hear
about two great caving trips. Saj Zappitello will share tales from pre-ICS
caving in Slovenia, bouncing deep pits in the karst mecca for
hydrogeologists, with contributions from Matt Zappitello; and Ellie Watson
and Galen Falgout will have photos and stories from their outing to
Arkansas. See you there!

I'd also like to remind people that the room location for the UT Grotto
meetings has changed.  We will now be in *Burdine 134*. Follow this link to
a map of where the building is located on the University of Texas campus:
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/bur.html

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials.  This area is the best place to park and meet folks
walking over to the meeting.  Then after the official meeting, we continue
with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall
tales of caving at Posse East.  www.posse-east.com

Cavingly,
Andrea Croskrey
UT Grotto Vice Chair

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Hello Houston cavers!

Just wanted to remind everyone that GHG does have a meeting tonight (and yes, I 
am back in town and am reassuming my duties as chairwoman so I will be leading 
the meeting, yay!) The meeting will focus on a couple of different things. The 
first thing is, we will set a caving schedule for the winter months. We 
discussed a deep/punkin trip in November and a trip to Jester Cave in Oklahoma 
in January or Feb. but have not solidified dates for those trips. We will also 
show a short educational video on White-nose syndrome, a disease affecting 
bats, and review decon procedures since GHG is starting to travel a bit more to 
go caving. And last but not least, anyone with questions about TCR should 
attend tonight and ask away! I encourage everyone to try and attend tonight's 
meeting. I look forward to seeing all of you again!

Mallory Mayeux
GHG President

Sent from my iPhone

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Probably most useful for international expeditions.


http://miravi.eo.esa.int/en/


Roger G. Moore

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I found the following article after reading Roger's link:

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/Caves/Astronauts_exploring_the_depths



Jesse


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, caverarch <cavera...@aol.com> wrote:

> Probably most useful for international expeditions.
>
>  http://miravi.eo.esa.int/en/
>
> Roger G. Moore
>

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Project Date: October 11-13, 2013


VOLUNTEERS: Lori Karker, William Quast, Anthony Garot, Yazmin Avila, Jim
Kennedy, Gerry Geletzke, Vivian Loftin, Lydia Hernandez, Aubri Jenson,
Nicole Goodman,  Justin Shaw, Galen Falgout, Ellie Watson, Davey Siddors,
Heather Tucek, David Moore, Diana Tomchick, Jason Cook, Jessica Smith,
Kasey Irons, Jessica Aguilar, Neil Buckman

HOURS: 102 hours drive + 121 volunteer hours

SUMMARY:

Jessica, Neil and Gerry surveyed SAB 314 (Spider Web Cave) and reported
that a VERY small, experienced caver should return and attempt to push the
lead. They also visited SAB 272 (Hard Wedge Cave), SAB 797 (LIVC01 Karst
Feature) which could use some additional digging, and SAB 798.  They were
unable to locate SAB 350.

Lydia, David, and Kasey’s team and Jessica, Vivian, and Nicole’s team
crossed the river in search of unknown features.  Together they found
several promising features that could use some digging and two caves were
tentatively named (Rack Cave) and (Minor Mishap Cave).

Justin, Galen, Ellie and Diana set out to continue the dig on SAB 199
(Don’t Fit Pit) and SAB 718 (Two Burnt Ropes Cave).  They were unable to
locate (Don’t Fit Pit). They did find and begin digging on (Two Burnt Ropes
Cave), only to find that the cave continues as a tiny crack that would
require endless digging.

Will, Laura, Aubri, and Lori completed a survey of SAB 599 (Cody’s Well)
and explored SAB 769 (Deep Dream Cave). A subsequent trip is required to
complete that survey.

Heather and David explored an area labeled “new karst area” and confirmed
that it requires a larger karst walking team. They successfully located SAB
338 and tentatively named it (Fred’s  Cave), but they were unable to survey
it as it requires additional digging. They were also able to locate and
describe (French Press Karst Feature) and to survey SAB 245 (Slumps Below
Cave).

Caver Camp was full of gnats, making sitting and eating difficult.
 Saturday night had thunderstorms on the way.  The combination of these
factors led some to leave Saturday night while others embraced them and had
a great night watching the lightning roll in.

FULL TRIP REPORTS:

Team 1:

Jessica, Neil, Gerry

Time: 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. total hours: 18

Data: Pouch #4

Objectives: to survey caves and describe karst features. (SAB 314, SAB272,
SAB273, SAB797, SAB798, SAB350)

Report: SAB 314 (Spiderweb Cave): survey (see pack number 4). A more
experienced and very small experienced caver should retry. If you head
toward the fence in the cave you have to travel on your side on the ground.
A helmet barely fits through. Ahead you can see a tiny room with a column
and stalactite formations. Beyond that, another tight crawl space exists.
This one is horizontally formed. It looks to be 10 feet long and beyond
that is unknown.

SAB 272 (Hard Wedge Cave): the tight fissure entrance dropped about 12 feet
to the first ledge. The entire drop is about 20 feet. This cave is
extremely narrow. Could not see beyond.

SAB 797 (LIVC01 karst feature): the entrance was covered in overgrown
shrubbery. Could not get around it or see inside.

SAB 273 (coon scat cave): description given from 7/8/95 is correct except
the entrance dropped about 10 feet down.

SAB 798 (karst feature): 4 feet deep and very narrow. No way to fit beyond.

SAB 350 (SABK001): could not locate.

Next tasks: send screening, experienced cavers to investigate the type
passage of spiderweb cave.

Team 2:

Lydia, David, Kasey

Time 10:00 - 18:00. Total hours 24.

Data: GPS Garman Ellie Watson

Objectives: Ridge walk across the east side of the river and look for karst.

Report: we ran across the river after walking down the trail to Gorman from
the conference center. We hiked along the East Park boundary fence and
fanned out looking for karst. We finally found something at the end of the
hike 3.6 km from our start point (048). Karst feature was blowing air,
needs modification (HEB). Then we swam in the river we cross and helped a
scout leader back to her camp and went on a trip to Spicewood Springs. Then
back to camp for food and fun.

Team 3:

Jessica, Vivian, Nicole

Time 10:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Total hours 21.

Data: GPS number #1

Objectives: search for new caves.

Report: This was my first time out. We crossed the river followed the fence
boundary until the turn and split into two groups. We came across one hole
that looked promising then found a cave that we named "rack cave". I had
found a deer antler, so we wanted to name it something along those lines.
We were able to climb in and saw a couple of passage ways. But they were
too tight to continue too far.

We found another promising sinkhole near here. Continued walking the rim,
then decided to meet our other group. Then we ran out of water, so decided
to head back. I got a little lost! Then we came across another large cave
Vivian called this porcupine Cave because she thought one lived in it. We
were getting tired at this point so continued back, removed our clothing
and took a nice dip in the river. This made us feel so much better! After
this, or other group came back and we check out the springs on the other
side of the park. I learned a lot of new things on this trip, which was my
objective. So overall a good trip.

Next project: possibly dig the potential caves we found today. Learn how to
survey.

Addendum: As there are several Porcupine Caves in the park, Vivian would
like to instead name the cave Minor Mishap Cave.

Team 4:

Justin, Galen, Ellie, Diana

Time 10:00 – 15:30. Total hours 22.

Data: Justin has fieldnotes.

Objectives: Enlarge constriction at end of Don't Fit Pit and explore and
survey. Enlarge entrance of Two Burnt Ropes Cave and explore and survey.

Report: We departed caver camp at 10:00 and headed out to find SAB 199
(don't fit pit) with the goal of enlarging a constriction that is the
current and of the cave. Unfortunately we didn't have the SAB number, and
our GPS only had the numbers, no names, so we were hoping to find it by
memory. Gorman Creek Crevice was along the way, so we popped into the
entrance for about 15 minutes. Oxygen level was measured at 20.9% at 10:30
– 10:45 AM. Searching through lively pasture we thought SAB 198 might be
it, and Galen went in to discover it was not. Around 11:30 we found
ourselves at Radish Run Rift and observed that the shrubbery we had cut out
of the entrance has regrown and is obstructing the entrance. More caves
were found and checked SAB 197, SAB 724 were not what we were looking for.
Just after noon we decided to go find Crash and see if his GPS had cave
names and numbers. We couldn't find Don’t Fit Pit in his GPS but did find
Two Burnt Ropes Cave SAB 718. At 13:00 we arrived at SAB 718, a fissure
that you could see down into and appeared to have passage going off in one
direction. We dug the fissure until I could squeeze in to see that the
crack was tiny forever and would require endless digging to further
penetrate.

Team 5:

Will, Laura, Aubri, Lori

Time: 10:30 – 4:15. Total hours 24.

Data: Aubri's field book

Objectives: to resurvey SAB 599 (Cody's Well) and SAB 769 (Dream Deep Cave)
as well as collect data on whoop ASS cave.

SAB 599 – We hiked for 30 minutes and we had some difficulty finding Cody's
well with the current GPS coordinates but we found it eventually. The
initial description of the karst feature was a 10 foot drop and we dropped
more than 40 feet (no vertical needed). We found a small passage at the and
and it leads to be tighter passage and unable to make it further. We
completed the survey with 10 points and unable to go further than that. At
the other end, we found a drop point where the initial report had described
and used it to climb out.

SAB 769 (dream deep cave). We found it without issue, dropped down with
vertical (vertical is a must) for approximately 60 feet. We noted there are
two more exit points at the top to check out. We found an ancient beer can
from 1976 (Schultz) inside the cave after we slid down between two walls.
Our time ran out and we were not able to survey Dream Deep so that remains
an objective for the next trip. Other objectives remain to be completed. P.
S. On the way back to the car I think will was trying to be lost on purpose
as we hiked back for what seemed to be ages.

Next project: complete the survey for SAB 769, collect data on Whoop ASS
Cave.

Addendum: SAB 769 is actually named (Deep Dream Cave).

Team 6:

Heather, David

Time 10 AM – 4 PM. Total hours 12.

Data: loose leaf

Objectives: check out "New Karst Area". Get data on SAB 338, resurvey SAB
245, write description for "French Press Karst Feature", locate Lone Bat 1
& 2 Caves.

Report: We started out looking for a new karst area, that we had GPS
coordinates for, but nothing else. We located a current feature but nothing
else. The area could use a full day with lots of people karst walking. We
attempted to locate SAB 807 on the way back to the car, but was not where
it was supposed to be. We then went to Lemon's Ranch area, and found SAB
338. We had no data other than the GPS coordinates. We named it "Persimmon
Cave", since there were three old Texas persimmon trees right at the
entrance. We wrote a description for it and took preliminary measurements,
but it will still need to be dug out before it can be surveyed. We located
and wrote a description for "French press karst feature". We located and
surveyed SAB 245, or "Slumps Below". It was a 3' x 1' pit, full of
crickets. There is a voice connection to another pit but it is too small to
fit. We could not locate either “Lone bat caves”.

Next project: Full karst walk of "new karst area", dig and stabilize
persimmon cave for serving. Find lone bat one and two.

Addendum: “Persimmon Cave” will tentatively be named “Fred’s Cave” as the
use of persimmon may be confusing with existing caves.

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