texascavers Digest 17 Jan 2014 21:35:15 -0000 Issue 1915
Topics (messages 23276 through 23286):
Re: Neversink frozen winter splendor :
23276 by: Josh Rubinstein
Re: Bomb In Hays County Cave
23277 by: Julie Jenkins
Bat size minidrone
23278 by: Lee H. Skinner
Re: Winter TSA Business Meeting minutes
23279 by: Jacqueline Thomas
Texas Memorial Museum demise
23280 by: Ron Ralph
23281 by: Diana Tomchick
23282 by: Katherine Arens
23283 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
23284 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
23285 by: R D Milhollin
23286 by: James Jasek
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It is not the first time Neversink froze. I was in Alabama the winter of
1983-84. There was a hard freeze that lasted for days. I remember walking
up on Stephen's Gap and globe of ice covered branches around the entrances.
So much ice had accumulate on the rope from the night before that we could
not haul it and to rig a hauling system to lower the rope to the lower
entrance and pull it out. I remember Buddy Lane gardening the ice off the
wall of Valhalla and then making the rope sing. That summer one two cavers
were integrated into the rock, when the roof of alcove we all used to
protects us from any rock dislodge by climbers collapsed on them. Some
time it is not the freeze but the thaw that kills. And, yes, I remember.
While writing this e-mail, I traveled to the Southeast Cave Conservancy web
page. Steve Hudson, the owner of PMI, has died. No better friend to
cavers. No better caver.
Josh
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:03 AM, scott grimes <scottgrime...@gmail.com>wrote:
> A fellow texas caver Rachel Saker, (from the aggie grotto) also dropped
> neversink during the big freeze in alabama, I'd expect her to post pictures
> to facebook sometime soon. Very cool looking!
>
> scott
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:53 PM, <jerryat...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2539778/Alabama-cave-freezes-time-explorers-discover-hundreds-glistening-ice-stalagmite.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
>>
>>
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Is anyone working on Hays Co caves? There was a neighborhood location in the
article! Just curious?!
jules
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2014, at 11:53 PM, ryan monjaras <trog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here's the best source I've found so far.
>
> http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news?fId=240379931&fPath=/news/local/&fDomain=10232
>
> "Semper Exploro"
> Ryan Monjaras
> Maverick Grotto
> Cowtown Grotto
> DFW Grotto
> UT Grotto
> Bexar Grotto
> Greater Houston Grotto
> TSA
> TCMA
> Lost Oasis Preserve Manager
> (832)754-5778
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Now if we could only get it to autonomously explore and photograph high
leads:
http://tinyurl.com/k45qabw
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I just finished reading the minutes from the Winter Meeting. Very well done,
Heather, and to all attendees: You covered a lot of ground in a short time!
Jacqui
On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Heather Tucek wrote:
> The minutes from the winter Business Meeting for the Texas Speleological
> Association from last Sunday are now available to be viewed online!
>
> http://www.cavetexas.org/PDF/TSA/Minutes-2014-01-12_Winter_TSA_Business_Meeting.pdf
>
>
>
> --
> Go find out!
> -Heather Tuček
> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
> NSS 59660
> (512) 773-1348
> trog...@cavechat.org
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Mary,
How did it go giving the petition to Dean Hicke?
Ron
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Dear Ronald, My name is Mary Newcomb, daughter of William W. Newcomb, an
anthropology professor and Director of the Texas Memorial Museum for many
years. You may have heard that the College of Natural Sciences will cut all
funding - $620,000 – to the museum beginning next year. This is a travesty that
can not be tolerated! My husband and I have started a grassroots effort called
Save the Texas Memorial Museum. Our goal is to gather many thousand signatures
on a protest petition and deliver it to Dean Hicke of the College of Natural
Sciences on Jan. 15, 2014 – the 75th anniversary of the museum’s opening. We
have a Facebook page and a group on meetup.com, where details of our first
meeting are. Please “Like” us on Facebook and RSVP on meetup.com. You can sign
the petition in person at our first gathering, the details of which are on
meetup.com. Or, we will email you the petition which you can sign and mail back
to us. Thank you in advance for your support! Kindest regards, Mary Newcomb and
Jeri Putnam
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Wouldn't it also be productive to look into a different funding source? Money
is tight in all areas of academia these days, and especially in the sciences.
Why not try going straight to the politicians there in Austin, they're the ones
that control how much money winds up at UT and the College of Natural Sciences?
Diana
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)
On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Ron Ralph wrote:
> Mary,
>
> How did it go giving the petition to Dean Hicke?
>
> Ron
>
> You are receiving this e-mail through the Texas Exes Alumni Directory. Your
> address has not been disclosed to the sender of the e-mail, but has been
> forwarded to you on their behalf. You can update your profile and allow other
> UT grads to contact you at www.texasexes.org/directory.
>
> Dear Ronald, My name is Mary Newcomb, daughter of William W. Newcomb, an
> anthropology professor and Director of the Texas Memorial Museum for many
> years. You may have heard that the College of Natural Sciences will cut all
> funding - $620,000 – to the museum beginning next year. This is a travesty
> that can not be tolerated! My husband and I have started a grassroots effort
> called Save the Texas Memorial Museum. Our goal is to gather many thousand
> signatures on a protest petition and deliver it to Dean Hicke of the College
> of Natural Sciences on Jan. 15, 2014 – the 75th anniversary of the museum’s
> opening. We have a Facebook page and a group on meetup.com, where details of
> our first meeting are. Please “Like” us on Facebook and RSVP on meetup.com.
> You can sign the petition in person at our first gathering, the details of
> which are on meetup.com. Or, we will email you the petition which you can
> sign and mail back to us. Thank you in advance for your support! Kindest
> regards, Mary Newcomb and Jeri Putnam
________________________________
UT Southwestern Medical Center
The future of medicine, today.
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Amen to that. To those of you who are mad you can no longer park free anywhere
at UT, this is another innovation of the current regime: our facilities are
"underutilized" and need to be charged "at current rates." So the little guys
get nickled and dimed to death, and the state of Texas loses important
resources and resource stewardship. Real Americans pay for their parking, you
see . . .(how's the parking at A&M?)
k
On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
Wouldn't it also be productive to look into a different funding source? Money
is tight in all areas of academia these days, and especially in the sciences.
Why not try going straight to the politicians there in Austin, they're the ones
that control how much money winds up at UT and the College of Natural Sciences?
Diana
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email:
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)
On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Ron Ralph wrote:
Mary,
How did it go giving the petition to Dean Hicke?
Ron
You are receiving this e-mail through the Texas Exes Alumni Directory. Your
address has not been disclosed to the sender of the e-mail, but has been
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UT grads to contact you at
www.texasexes.org/directory<http://www.texasexes.org/directory>.
Dear Ronald, My name is Mary Newcomb, daughter of William W. Newcomb, an
anthropology professor and Director of the Texas Memorial Museum for many
years. You may have heard that the College of Natural Sciences will cut all
funding - $620,000 – to the museum beginning next year. This is a travesty that
can not be tolerated! My husband and I have started a grassroots effort called
Save the Texas Memorial Museum. Our goal is to gather many thousand signatures
on a protest petition and deliver it to Dean Hicke of the College of Natural
Sciences on Jan. 15, 2014 – the 75th anniversary of the museum’s opening. We
have a Facebook page and a group on meetup.com<http://meetup.com>, where
details of our first meeting are. Please “Like” us on Facebook and RSVP on
meetup.com<http://meetup.com>. You can sign the petition in person at our first
gathering, the details of which are on meetup.com<http://meetup.com>. Or, we
will email you the petition which you can sign and mail back to us. Thank you
in advance for your support! Kindest regards, Mary Newcomb and Jeri Putnam
________________________________
UT Southwestern Medical Center
The future of medicine, today.
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Word is that the property the museum sits on is slated to become another
parking lot. That's a goo money maker (so close to the stadium). Who says
athletics doesn't rob from academics?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
> Amen to that. To those of you who are mad you can no longer park free
> anywhere at UT, this is another innovation of the current regime: our
> facilities are "underutilized" and need to be charged "at current rates." So
> the little guys get nickled and dimed to death, and the state of Texas loses
> important resources and resource stewardship. Real Americans pay for their
> parking, you see . . .(how's the parking at A&M?)
> k
>
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't it also be productive to look into a different funding source?
>> Money is tight in all areas of academia these days, and especially in the
>> sciences. Why not try going straight to the politicians there in Austin,
>> they're the ones that control how much money winds up at UT and the College
>> of Natural Sciences?
>>
>> Diana
>>
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> Diana R. Tomchick
>> Professor
>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>> Department of Biophysics
>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>> Rm. ND10.214A
>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Ron Ralph wrote:
>>
>>> Mary,
>>>
>>> How did it go giving the petition to Dean Hicke?
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> You are receiving this e-mail through the Texas Exes Alumni Directory. Your
>>> address has not been disclosed to the sender of the e-mail, but has been
>>> forwarded to you on their behalf. You can update your profile and allow
>>> other UT grads to contact you at www.texasexes.org/directory.
>>>
>>> Dear Ronald, My name is Mary Newcomb, daughter of William W. Newcomb, an
>>> anthropology professor and Director of the Texas Memorial Museum for many
>>> years. You may have heard that the College of Natural Sciences will cut all
>>> funding - $620,000 – to the museum beginning next year. This is a travesty
>>> that can not be tolerated! My husband and I have started a grassroots
>>> effort called Save the Texas Memorial Museum. Our goal is to gather many
>>> thousand signatures on a protest petition and deliver it to Dean Hicke of
>>> the College of Natural Sciences on Jan. 15, 2014 – the 75th anniversary of
>>> the museum’s opening. We have a Facebook page and a group on meetup.com,
>>> where details of our first meeting are. Please “Like” us on Facebook and
>>> RSVP on meetup.com. You can sign the petition in person at our first
>>> gathering, the details of which are on meetup.com. Or, we will email you
>>> the petition which you can sign and mail back to us. Thank you in advance
>>> for your support! Kindest regards, Mary Newcomb and Jeri Putnam
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> UT Southwestern Medical Center
>> The future of medicine, today.
>>
>>
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> ar...@austin.utexas.edu
> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123
> Dept. of Germanic Studies
> FAX (512) 471-4025
> 2505 University Ave, C3300
> Bldg.Location: Burdine 336
> University of Texas at Austin
> Office: Burdine 320
> Austin, TX 78712-1802
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Ron:
Jerks. Perhaps "College of Unnatural Sciences"??
Send me the petition to sign, if it will still do any good. Your E-mail said
January 15, which was two days ago.
Send it via e-mail, we are not at the moment in Terlingua. We are on our way to
the karst of Cuba - back in Feb.
Dwight
Dwight Deal
dirt...@comcast.net
PO Box 10
Terlingua, TX 79852
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From: "Ron Ralph" <ronra...@austin.rr.com>
To: jputnam1...@att.net
Cc: "Texas Cavers" <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:56:39 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Memorial Museum demise
Mary,
How did it go giving the petition to Dean Hicke?
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If you want to see some fast back-pedaling find a way to offer A & M the option
to take the Texas Memorial Museum to College Station. The governor would love
it but the legislature would probably not allow it to happen.
On Friday, January 17, 2014 3:03 PM, "dirt...@comcast.net"
<dirt...@comcast.net> wrote:
Ron:
Jerks. Perhaps "College of Unnatural Sciences"??
Send me the petition to sign, if it will still do any good. Your E-mail said
January 15, which was two days ago.
Send it via e-mail, we are not at the moment in Terlingua. We are on our way
to the karst of Cuba - back in Feb.
Dwight
Dwight Deal
dirt...@comcast.net
PO Box 10
Terlingua, TX 79852
________________________________
From: "Ron Ralph" <ronra...@austin.rr.com>
To: jputnam1...@att.net
Cc: "Texas Cavers" <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:56:39 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Memorial Museum demise
Mary,
How did it go giving the petition to Dean
Hicke?
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If this is true there is no way to stop the project. I hope the museum contents
will be preserved
Jim
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp <andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Word is that the property the museum sits on is slated to become another
> parking lot. That's a goo money maker (so close to the stadium). Who says
> athletics doesn't rob from academics?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Katherine Arens <ar...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Amen to that. To those of you who are mad you can no longer park free
>> anywhere at UT, this is another innovation of the current regime: our
>> facilities are "underutilized" and need to be charged "at current rates."
>> So the little guys get nickled and dimed to death, and the state of Texas
>> loses important resources and resource stewardship. Real Americans pay for
>> their parking, you see . . .(how's the parking at A&M?)
>> k
>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it also be productive to look into a different funding source?
>>> Money is tight in all areas of academia these days, and especially in the
>>> sciences. Why not try going straight to the politicians there in Austin,
>>> they're the ones that control how much money winds up at UT and the College
>>> of Natural Sciences?
>>>
>>> Diana
>>>
>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> Diana R. Tomchick
>>> Professor
>>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>>> Department of Biophysics
>>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>>> Rm. ND10.214A
>>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Ron Ralph wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mary,
>>>> How did it go giving the petition to Dean Hicke?
>>>> Ron
>>>> You are receiving this e-mail through the Texas Exes Alumni Directory.
>>>> Your address has not been disclosed to the sender of the e-mail, but has
>>>> been forwarded to you on their behalf. You can update your profile and
>>>> allow other UT grads to contact you at www.texasexes.org/directory.
>>>> Dear Ronald, My name is Mary Newcomb, daughter of William W. Newcomb, an
>>>> anthropology professor and Director of the Texas Memorial Museum for many
>>>> years. You may have heard that the College of Natural Sciences will cut
>>>> all funding - $620,000 – to the museum beginning next year. This is a
>>>> travesty that can not be tolerated! My husband and I have started a
>>>> grassroots effort called Save the Texas Memorial Museum. Our goal is to
>>>> gather many thousand signatures on a protest petition and deliver it to
>>>> Dean Hicke of the College of Natural Sciences on Jan. 15, 2014 – the 75th
>>>> anniversary of the museum’s opening. We have a Facebook page and a group
>>>> on meetup.com, where details of our first meeting are. Please “Like” us on
>>>> Facebook and RSVP on meetup.com. You can sign the petition in person at
>>>> our first gathering, the details of which are on meetup.com. Or, we will
>>>> email you the petition which you can sign and mail back to us. Thank you
>>>> in advance for your support! Kindest regards, Mary Newcomb and Jeri Putnam
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> UT Southwestern Medical Center
>>> The future of medicine, today.
>>>
>>>
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>> ************************
>> Katherine Arens Office Phone: (512) 232-6363
>> ar...@austin.utexas.edu
>> Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123
>> Dept. of Germanic Studies
>> FAX (512) 471-4025
>> 2505 University Ave, C3300
>> Bldg.Location: Burdine 336
>> University of Texas at Austin
>> Office: Burdine 320
>> Austin, TX 78712-1802
>>
>> -. .-
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