texascavers Digest 17 May 2014 19:18:01 -0000 Issue 1980
Topics (messages 23838 through 23849):
Sunken body clue to American origins
23838 by: Stefan Creaser
Cavers helping cavers
23839 by: David
Developing Yucatan Underwater Cave News
23840 by: Preston Forsythe
New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan
23841 by: Preston Forsythe
23842 by: Fofo
23843 by: Fofo
23846 by: Pete Lindsley
Hoyo Negro girl
23844 by: Mixon Bill
23845 by: Mixon Bill
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan
23847 by: Diana Tomchick
Bat "infestation" in an interesting place....
23848 by: Julia Germany
Another new LED headlamp
23849 by: David
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Even far from The Center of the Caving Universe, cavers sometimes help each
other.
I spent 8 hours today working my tail off in the Texas sun, helping a
caver, and another 2 hours driving.
He is supposed to pay me though, so my efforts do not count towards
anything noteworthy, but I would not be doing it, if he was not a caver.
I could also say that they helped me too, as I am now certified by OSHA to
be a safe entry level construction worker.
David Locklear
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Announced in the NYT today, a full skeleton of a pre-historic young girl has
been found in an underwater eastern Yucatan cave. This provides fossil evidence
of the Bering Strait land bridge link.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/20/science/prehistoric-skeleton-in-mexico-is-said-to-link-modern-native-americans-to-siberians.html?hp&_r=0
Preston in KY
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Video and story from today's WSJ.
Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
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Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird
(blue drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey
(the _other_ Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico
(and other places, but because of their research they've been diving a
lot in Mexico recently).
They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area
Underwater Explorers in Monterey.
Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.
- Fofo
On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
Video and story from today's WSJ.
Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
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Oh, here's another link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2629505/Was-Naia-American-Teenage-girls-skeleton-dating-ice-age-13-000-years-ago-oldest-Americas.html
- Fofo
On 16/05/14 07:28, Fofo wrote:
Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird
(blue drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey
(the _other_ Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico
(and other places, but because of their research they've been diving a
lot in Mexico recently).
They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area
Underwater Explorers in Monterey.
Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.
- Fofo
On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
Video and story from today's WSJ.
Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
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(Sorry again. Just rebooted my mail program which was grabbing the wrong caver
e-mail address. It worked on a test case, so I expect it to work this time.)
On May 16, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:
Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional
information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr.
Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a
local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link
[http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's picture in the article's photo
collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with Victor
and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, YES, we do
know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting project. Great job
guys!
- Pete
On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:
Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue
drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the _other_
Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and other places,
but because of their research they've been diving a lot in Mexico recently).
They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area Underwater
Explorers in Monterey.
Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.
- Fofo
On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
> Video and story from today's WSJ.
> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
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It is interesting that just a few three ago, when there was a lecture
given in San Marcos about Hoyo Negro and the paleotology there, the
speakers couldn't tell us the age of the girl's skeleton because the
data were still under embargo by the sponsor of the research. So
close.... -- Mixon
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The abstract to the actual report in Science magazine can be found at
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/344/6185/750 -- Mixon
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materials from Science magazine can contact me off-list. The total size of both
documents is about 12.5 Mb, so if you have problems receiving an email message
that size, let me know and I will tell you how to download the files outside of
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On May 16, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:
> Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional
> information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr.
> Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a
> local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link
> [http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
> also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's picture in the article's photo
> collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with Victor
> and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, YES, we
> do know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting project. Great
> job guys!
>
> - Pete
>
> On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:
>
> Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue
> drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the
> _other_ Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and other
> places, but because of their research they've been diving a lot in Mexico
> recently).
>
> They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area
> Underwater Explorers in Monterey.
>
> Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.
>
> - Fofo
>
>
> On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
>> Video and story from today's WSJ.
>> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
>> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
>>
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Never thought about bats roosting under these tiles. Very healthy colony. Too
bad they were disturbed in the middle of the day.
http://twentytwowords.com/discovering-a-bat-infestation-under-a-tile-roof/
julia
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Academy Stores has a headlamp called the INOVA STS, by Nite-ize.
I can not review it right now, but the specs look interesting. It cost $
35 plus tax.
It is black in color, but the lens ring comes in a choice of either, blue
grey or orange.
I would presume that this headlamp should be acceptable as a primary source
of light in any Texas cave, and as a back-up to keep in the cavepack for
expedition trips to the big caves, because INOVA has a reputation for
durability.
David Locklear
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