texascavers Digest 22 Oct 2013 23:44:33 -0000 Issue 1868

Topics (messages 22915 through 22931):

[TCR Lost-N-Found Photos]
        22915 by: Don Arburn
        22916 by: Aubri Jenson

Mike Boon
        22917 by: Mixon Bill

Poison-ivy
        22918 by: David
        22919 by: Sheryl Rieck
        22920 by: Sheryl Rieck
        22921 by: George D. Nincehelser
        22922 by: DESSIE PIERCE
        22923 by: Charles Goldsmith
        22924 by: Mark Minton
        22925 by: Sheryl Rieck
        22926 by: George Veni
        22927 by: Don Arburn
        22928 by: Louise Power
        22929 by: caverarch
        22931 by: Tom Rogers

Poison-ivy and Karst
        22930 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net

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Spread the word, tell your friends, call the Aggies, share: there is a video of 
Lost& Found items on the Texas Cavers Reunion 2013 Facebook page.

If you don't claim it, I'll either sell it, auction it or it goes in my rag 
bin. There's even some folks who have volunteered to simply TAKE it.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

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Hey all!
I left a headlamp that I didn't see in Don's video. It's a Black Diamond
Icon, with a AA battery pack and black and silver casing. I left it on the
lawn by the rope contest. Please let me know if you think you have it!
Thank you in advance, I'll pay for shipping if needed.
Aubri Jenson (UT grotto)


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com> wrote:

> Spread the word, tell your friends, call the Aggies, share: there is a
> video of Lost& Found items on the Texas Cavers Reunion 2013 Facebook page.
>
> If you don't claim it, I'll either sell it, auction it or it goes in my
> rag bin. There's even some folks who have volunteered to simply TAKE it.
>
> Sent cellularly.
> -Don
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Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal
experience?

Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned
people are the most allergic ?

David Locklear

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I am not allergic and you don't get much whiter-skinned than I. I also have
never heard of any particular ethnic group immunity. The pink goop helps,
calamine lotion. You should avoid spreading by not scratching and then
touching other parts of your body. It mostly has to run its course unless
you go to the doctor.

Sheryl

Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant
True SEM Antics, Inc.
832-632-2387 Home
361-205-1458 Cell


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal
> experience?
>
> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
>
> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
>
> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that
> white-skinned people are the most allergic ?
>
> David Locklear
>

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Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant
True SEM Antics, Inc.
832-632-2387 Home
361-205-1458 Cell


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Sheryl Rieck <sheryl.ri...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I am not allergic and you don't get much whiter-skinned than I. I also
> have never heard of any particular ethnic group immunity. The pink goop
> helps, calamine lotion. You should avoid spreading by not scratching and
> then touching other parts of your body. It mostly has to run its course
> unless you go to the doctor.
>
> Sheryl
>
> Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant
> True SEM Antics, Inc.
> 832-632-2387 Home
> 361-205-1458 Cell
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from
>> personal experience?
>>
>> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
>>
>> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
>> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
>>
>> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that
>> white-skinned people are the most allergic ?
>>
>> David Locklear
>>
>
>

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I seem to be immune to poison ivy... so immune that I don't even know what
poison ivy really looks like.  Last year I was apparently standing in patch
with shorts and sandals.  It didn't bother me one bit.

Nettles are another matter.  Luckily a little bit of mud cures that for me.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal
> experience?
>
> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
>
> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
>
> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that
> white-skinned people are the most allergic ?
>
> David Locklear
>

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I am also totally immune. My daughter, however, has been horribly allergic to 
it since she was 8 years old (now 23). She always has to take prednisone to get 
rid of it once it starts. For her, it always causes a systemic reaction. 
Everyone in our family is immune except for her and my ex-mother-in-law.
 
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 From: George D. Nincehelser <george.nincehel...@gmail.com>
To: David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> 
Cc: CaveTex <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
 


I seem to be immune to poison ivy... so immune that I don't even know what 
poison ivy really looks like.  Last year I was apparently standing in patch 
with shorts and sandals.  It didn't bother me one bit.

Nettles are another matter.  Luckily a little bit of mud cures that for me.



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
experience?
>Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
>4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot 
>water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
>Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
>people are the most allergic ?
>
>David Locklear

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I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on
me, always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is
http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product


Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named
brand.  I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's
expensive, but worth every cent.

Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.
 There was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local
pharmacist, drop it into a pint of water and spread the resulting
concoction on me, but I swore it was just water, never seemed to help and I
don't know the name either.

If you can, try the above link



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal
> experience?
>
> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
>
> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
>
> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that
> white-skinned people are the most allergic ?
>
> David Locklear
>

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--- Begin Message --- A related product is Tecnu <http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu>, also commonly available at pharmacies. These products wash away the oily residue that causes the rash . They work best when used as soon as possible after exposure, but can help even the next day or two. Calamine (pink stuff), on the other hand, is simply a topical anesthetic and antiseptic. It reduces itching, but doesn't really cure the problem (treats the symptoms, not the disease). (I'm also not affected by poison ivy, but my partner Yvonne is extremely sensitive.)

Mark

At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on me, always have been. The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product

Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named brand. I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results. it's expensive, but worth every cent.

Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me. There was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local pharmacist, drop it into a pint of water and spread the resulting concoction on me, but I swore it was just water, never seemed to help and I don't know the name either.

If you can, try the above link

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal experience?

Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned people are the most allergic ?

David Locklear

Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
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Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the
other treatments.

Sheryl

Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant
True SEM Antics, Inc.
832-632-2387 Home
361-205-1458 Cell


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> wrote:

>         A related product is Tecnu <http://www.teclabsinc.com/**
> products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu<http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu>
> >**, also commonly available at pharmacies.  These products wash away the
> oily residue that causes the rash .  They work best when used as soon as
> possible after exposure, but can help even the next day or two.  Calamine
> (pink stuff), on the other hand, is simply a topical anesthetic and
> antiseptic.  It reduces itching, but doesn't really cure the problem
> (treats the symptoms, not the disease).  (I'm also not affected by poison
> ivy, but my partner Yvonne is extremely sensitive.)
>
> Mark
>
>
> At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>
>> I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump
>> on me, always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it
>> is http://www.walgreens.com/**store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-**
>> wash/ID=prod6113607-product<http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product>
>>
>> Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named
>> brand.  I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's
>> expensive, but worth every cent.
>>
>> Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.
>>  There was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local
>> pharmacist, drop it into a pint of water and spread the resulting
>> concoction on me, but I swore it was just water, never seemed to help and I
>> don't know the name either.
>>
>> If you can, try the above link
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from
>> personal experience?
>>
>> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
>>
>> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
>> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
>>
>> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that
>> white-skinned people are the most allergic ?
>>
>> David Locklear
>>
>
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Poison ivy never bothered me for many years, but I learned that immunity can 
sometimes be lost by repeated exposure. So my advice to those who are currently 
immune is to avoid it as much as possible.

George


Sent from my mobile phone

********************

George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215
USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org




-------- Original message --------
From: Sheryl Rieck <sheryl.ri...@gmail.com>
Date: 2013/10/22 16:31 (GMT-07:00)
To: Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net>
Cc: TexasCavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy


Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the other 
treatments.

Sheryl

Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant
True SEM Antics, Inc.
832-632-2387 Home
361-205-1458 Cell


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton 
<mmin...@caver.net<mailto:mmin...@caver.net>> wrote:
        A related product is Tecnu 
<http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu>, also commonly 
available at pharmacies.  These products wash away the oily residue that causes 
the rash .  They work best when used as soon as possible after exposure, but 
can help even the next day or two.  Calamine (pink stuff), on the other hand, 
is simply a topical anesthetic and antiseptic.  It reduces itching, but doesn't 
really cure the problem (treats the symptoms, not the disease).  (I'm also not 
affected by poison ivy, but my partner Yvonne is extremely sensitive.)

Mark


At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on me, 
always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is 
http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product

Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named brand.  
I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's expensive, but 
worth every cent.

Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.  There 
was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local pharmacist, drop it 
into a pint of water and spread the resulting concoction on me, but I swore it 
was just water, never seemed to help and I don't know the name either.

If you can, try the above link

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David 
<dlocklea...@gmail.com<mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
experience?

Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot water, 
and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
people are the most allergic ?

David Locklear

Please reply to mmin...@caver.net<mailto:mmin...@caver.net>
Permanent email address is 
mmin...@illinoisalumni.org<mailto:mmin...@illinoisalumni.org>

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DONT INHALE THE SMOKE OF IT.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

> On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
> experience?
> 
> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
> 
> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot 
> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
> 
> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
> people are the most allergic ?
> 
> David Locklear

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The Mayo Clinic site says: 

 

For more severe or widespread rashes — especially if it's on your face or 
genitals — your doctor may suggest taking corticosteroid pills, such as 
prednisone, for a few weeks. 
 



From: donarb...@mac.com
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:44:13 -0500
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy


DONT INHALE THE SMOKE OF IT.

Sent cellularly. 
-Don

On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:




Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
experience?

Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot water, 
and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
people are the most allergic ?


David Locklear
                                          

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I am a bit more sensitive to the vine than I was in my youth. I'm sure this is 
the result of repeated exposure from lots of field work in the eastern 
woodlands and blissfully disregarding contact back in those days.


Roger G. Moore



-----Original Message-----
From: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org>
To: Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy



Poison ivy never bothered me for many years, but I learned that immunity can 
sometimes be lost by repeated exposure. So my advice to those who are currently 
immune is to avoid it as much as possible. 


George




Sent from my mobile phone


********************


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215
USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org





-------- Original message --------
From: Sheryl Rieck <sheryl.ri...@gmail.com> 
Date: 2013/10/22 16:31 (GMT-07:00) 
To: Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> 
Cc: TexasCavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy 




Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the other 
treatments.


Sheryl




Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant

True SEM Antics, Inc.

832-632-2387 Home

361-205-1458 Cell





On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> wrote:

        A related product is Tecnu 
<http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu>, also commonly 
available at pharmacies.  These products wash away the oily residue that causes 
the rash .  They work best when used as soon as possible after exposure, but 
can help even the next day or two.  Calamine (pink stuff), on the other hand, 
is simply a topical anesthetic and antiseptic.  It reduces itching, but doesn't 
really cure the problem (treats the symptoms, not the disease).  (I'm also not 
affected by poison ivy, but my partner Yvonne is extremely sensitive.)

Mark


At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on me, 
always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it 
ishttp://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product

Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named brand.  
I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's expensive, but 
worth every cent.

Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.  There 
was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local pharmacist, drop it 
into a pint of water and spread the resulting concoction on me, but I swore it 
was just water, never seemed to help and I don't know the name either.

If you can, try the above link

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
experience?

Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot water, 
and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
people are the most allergic ?

David Locklear



Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org 

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I have had it many times. I have now from TCR. The best stuff to use is mineral 
spirits. The main ingredient in tecnu. Any alcohol based liquid will work. Rub 
it on immediately. Rinse with water after about ten minutes. There will still 
be a rash but it will stop it from spreading. Rub down tools with alcohol also 
to remove poison ivy oil. I suspect my repeated exposures has built immunity.
 Tom

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From: "caverarch" <cavera...@aol.com>
Sent: October 22, 2013 6:12 PM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

I am a bit more sensitive to the vine than I was in my youth. I'm sure this is 
the result of repeated exposure from lots of field work in the eastern 
woodlands and blissfully disregarding contact back in those days.


Roger G. Moore



-----Original Message-----
From: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org>
To: Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy



Poison ivy never bothered me for many years, but I learned that immunity can 
sometimes be lost by repeated exposure. So my advice to those who are currently 
immune is to avoid it as much as possible.


George




Sent from my mobile phone


********************


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215
USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org





-------- Original message --------
From: Sheryl Rieck <sheryl.ri...@gmail.com>
Date: 2013/10/22 16:31 (GMT-07:00)
To: Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net>
Cc: TexasCavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy




Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the other 
treatments.


Sheryl




Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant

True SEM Antics, Inc.

832-632-2387 Home

361-205-1458 Cell





On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> wrote:

        A related product is Tecnu 
<http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu>, also commonly 
available at pharmacies.  These products wash away the oily residue that causes 
the rash .  They work best when used as soon as possible after exposure, but 
can help even the next day or two.  Calamine (pink stuff), on the other hand, 
is simply a topical anesthetic and antiseptic.  It reduces itching, but doesn't 
really cure the problem (treats the symptoms, not the disease).  (I'm also not 
affected by poison ivy, but my partner Yvonne is extremely sensitive.)

Mark


At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on me, 
always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it 
ishttp://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product

Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named brand.  
I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's expensive, but 
worth every cent.

Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.  There 
was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local pharmacist, drop it 
into a pint of water and spread the resulting concoction on me, but I swore it 
was just water, never seemed to help and I don't know the name either.

If you can, try the above link

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
experience?

Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot water, 
and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
people are the most allergic ?

David Locklear



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Poison-ivy and Karst 

How cave related can you get?? (I'll do everything I can to get this site back 
on track) 

I grew up in New York and was terribly allergic to poison ivy as a youngster. 
Like, someone burned some brush with the vines in the pile, a half-mile away. 
Good Lord, was I ever in an awful itchy situation after the smoke passed over 
me ------ . Fortunately my lungs did not react. 

When I started to do karst and geological things in upstate NY, I discovered 
two things: 

1. To see the bedrock I had to crawl on my belly like a snake up stream beds. 

2. I could map the limestone without ever seeing it, just by mapping where the 
lush poison ivy grew. (THAT is the Karst tie-in) 

After I came West, I could more easily see Rocks and I gradually lost my 
extreme reaction. But I learned what George cautioned: Immunity is lost by 
repeated exposure. 

Then I moved to Texas and discovered Poison Oak. It makes TREES going up the 
cliffs with trunks as big around as Bob Oakley's thighs around springs in the 
Big Bend. ESPECIALLY in what is now Big Bend Ranch State Park. 






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