texascavers Digest 4 Feb 2014 16:31:21 -0000 Issue 1924

Topics (messages 23358 through 23364):

Re: Aggie Anniversary Party
        23358 by: David

UT Grotto Meeting February 5th
        23359 by: Andrea Croskrey

Cool canyoneering video "Down the Line"
        23360 by: Frank Binney
        23361 by: Preston Forsythe

TC material
        23362 by: Mimi Jasek

Virus ?
        23363 by: David

AMCS blurb
        23364 by: Mixon Bill

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I contacted about 20 old Ass'rs, or at least as many as my fuzzy
repressed memories could dig up.  I found most of them on various
social sites and sent them a message.

Here are some names of people I have lost contact with:

Chris Sobin
Tim Jones ( maybe in Austin )
Steve Tonneson ( maybe in Austin )
Pete Baron
Travis Kitchen   ( I think he stays in touch with other cavers )
Patricia Wise ( was on Facebook last year )
Cesar Koppel ( maybe Austin )
Audrey Wright ( Sulpher Springs in the late 80's )

The comments below are my personal observations of the A.S.S. from 1984 to 1993.


Many of the former Ass'rs I sent a message have probably not been in a
cave in 25
years.

Back in the mid 80's, each fall semester there would be a handful of
students that would
get super enthusiastic about caving, and "want to" go every other
weekend for about 2 months, but they usually backed out of the trip to
study, so most of the gatherings were
social gatherings at a food establishment near campus.   But after
those few months, they would just drop off the face of the earth.
There was never anybody to keep track
of who they all were.   Some where in my storage building I might have
some old members
list, but I think I contacted everybody that was active in the club
from 84 to 87.

I doubt any of them show up, but one of them is still a hiker at
least, and lives in
the vicinity of the party location.

I do not know any Ass'rs after 1993, or at least not that I know of.

There were lots of girls in the A.S.S., in the mid-80's and many of them were
very enthusiastic about the club, but the actual physical part of caving was
something that they were only briefly interested in.    Some of them were dating
one of the guys in the club and appeared to be tagging along.   For
example, I can't help but remember in 1986 on a trip to Langtry Lead
Cave, everybody had to wait at the
entrance for Susan Shupak to get her make-up on.    She got mad when
her boyfriend
abandoned her in the twilight zone, but I was able to guide her all the way down
to the beginning of the crawl to the Hall of Unicorns, before she
became claustrophobic.   She and I were close friends till 1989, and
then she married and disappeared.
Another example, is Audrey Wright.   She took the National Rescue Cave Class
in New Mexico around 1987, and never went caving again, at least, as
far as I know.
There was one exception though.    I won't mention her name, but she
won numerous
vertical contest at TCR, and had dedicated her life to the outdoors.

Also, each semester there would be a grad student who was an experienced caver
that would come to the meetings and a local non-student adult, but they were too
busy to go on caving trips, and just attended meetings.    They would
often offer
insight and suggestions, but the only one I remember has passed away.

Also, a lot of the members in the club were just the roommates of
someone who liked
caving or considered themselves a caver.    That roommate or friend,
would attend
meetings and help out, and might have gone to Enchanted Rock Cave or something
like that, but by the end of the fall semester they had dissappeared.

The spring semesters were really hard to get new members and to
encourage members to go caving and by late April,
it was almost hopeless.    Each fall, the club started over from
scratch, with almost
zero input from any experienced caver, and equipment and stuff from
the previous
generation of cavers disappeared.

And like any caving club, there would be people that attend who have
no desire to
go caving, but just want to be part of something.    So the A.S.S.
would sometimes have
75 members by the 2nd fall meeting, and the last spring meeting there
would be about 4
people.

So in a nutshell, I am almost no help.

David Locklear
1987 A.S.S Vice-President
( Disclaimer:    Appointed V.P. by outgoing 1986 president
because there were only 2 people in the club )

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Howdy Texas Cavers!

I hope you all are ready for another UT Grotto Meeting this week!  This
Wednesday we're having a double feature.  Maya Liu will share photos from
caves she got to visit while on vacation in Puerto Rico and James Brown
will show a cave diving video from West Virginia. Hope to see you there!

We will now be meeting at 7:45pm in *Burdine 136*. Follow this link to a
map of where the building is located on the University of Texas campus:
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/bur.html

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials. Attendance by cavers varies but this area is the best
place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting.  Then after the
official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene
for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East.
www.posse-east.com

Cavingly,
Andrea Croskrey
UT Grotto Vice Chair

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This year¹s Banff Moutain Film Festival World Tour features an impressive
canyoneering video titled ³Down the Line². It¹s not exactly caving, but
pretty darn close.
You can view the trailer via this link:
http://vimeo.com/64671839

Frank Binney
Frank Binney & Associates
Interpretive Planning and Media Development
P.O. Box 258
Woodacre, CA 94973
415.488.1200 Voice
415.488.1500 Fax
415.999.0556 Mobile
fr...@frankbinney.com




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Pretty darn close, indeed!

Preston back in KY and 25 deg. after being in FL and 80 deg two days ago.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frank Binney 
  To: Texas Cavers 
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:39 PM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Cool canyoneering video "Down the Line"


  This year's Banff Moutain Film Festival World Tour features an impressive 
canyoneering video titled "Down the Line". It's not exactly caving, but pretty 
darn close.
  You can view the trailer via this link:
  http://vimeo.com/64671839


  Frank Binney
  Frank Binney & Associates
  Interpretive Planning and Media Development
  P.O. Box 258
  Woodacre, CA 94973
  415.488.1200 Voice
  415.488.1500 Fax
  415.999.0556 Mobile
  fr...@frankbinney.com 


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Ok, Texas cavers. It has come to my attention that Jill still does not have 
enough material for the December 2013 issue, let alone anything for the March 
2014 one!

Another TC editor from long ago told me how he caught all kinds of flack by 
putting some random science article in an issue due to lack of material. 
Although ragged on for this, general caver populace got the message - and 
admitted - that it was their lack of help in sending in material that elicited 
such sacrilege!

So, get out if those muddy clothes - or stay in them - and send something cave 
related to Jill for OUR award winning state caving magazine! I know you can do 
it! 

Please!:)

Mimi Jasek
TC Proofreader

Sent from my iPhone

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I just got a message appearing to be from Google, that someone was using an
address linked to my account suspiciously.

The address was icscavers @ gmail and from Virginia.

I followed the instructions to un-link it, but was concerned about opening
the message and clicking on things.

Does that sound legitimate ?

David Locklear

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--- Begin Message --- Below is the blurb about the Association for Mexican Cave Studies that I've sent to the NSS for this year's members manual. The AMCS is a project of the NSS. -- Mixon

Association for Mexican Cave Studies
The AMCS has existed, mostly informally, since 1963, and is dedicated to the exploration, study, and conservation of the caves of Mexico, chiefly through a program of publications. There is no formal membership list. Anyone who shares the goals of the AMCS and pursues them with proper respect for the caves and people of Mexico may consider himself or herself a member. Since the year 2000, the AMCS has published 13 Activities Newsletters totaling 1831 pages, 15 AMCS Bulletins, 2191 pages, and 11 AMCS reprints, 2254 pages. Many older publications have been scanned to produce 3729 pages of PDF files for our web site. Catalog and links are at amcs-pubs.org. During 2013, the AMCS published Activities Newsletter 36 and Bulletin 22, Sulfidic Karst Springs and Speleogenesis in the Sierra de Chiapas. Considerable recent effort has gone into putting over 3000 maps of Mexican caves on its web site (amcs-pubs.org/maps/) and cataloging its library and archives (amcs-pubs.org/library/), which contain 405 disks, about 160 books, 460 periodical titles, and over 5000 items in the paper files. Chairman: Bill Mixon, NSS 5728 OS AL. Advisory Board: Peter Sprouse, NSS 14445 LB; William Russell, NSS 4357 HM CM; and James Reddell, NSS 4697 SC CM. Contacts: AMCS, PO Box 7672, Austin, Texas 78713, www.amcs-pubs.org , edi...@amcs-pubs.org, sa...@amcs-pubs.org.
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