Re: [Therion] How to calculate the volume of a cave

2019-08-14 Thread Olly Betts
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 04:38:20PM -0500, Bill Gee wrote:
> Update:  After poking around a bit, I discovered that Compass will
> calculate cave volume based on centerline and LRUD data.  Doing that
> means I have to run a Windows computer (ugh!) and type in the survey
> data twice (double ugh!)  Fortunately the cave for which I need this
> is small.
> 
> Can this feature be added as a suggestion for future versions of Survex?

There's a ticket open already:

https://trac.survex.com/ticket/80

Julian sketched out what needs doing there, but didn't actually provide
a patch (or else I'd have applied it by now).

But Therion could do a better job here as it has the drawn passage walls
to work from.

Cheers,
Olly
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Re: [Therion] How to calculate the volume of a cave

2019-08-14 Thread Bill Gee
Update:  After poking around a bit, I discovered that Compass will calculate 
cave volume based on centerline and LRUD data.  Doing that means I have to run 
a Windows computer (ugh!) and type in the survey data twice (double ugh!)  
Fortunately the cave for which I need this is small.

Can this feature be added as a suggestion for future versions of Survex?

Compass does quite a few other calculations.  For example, it will calculate 
the volume of the bounding box.  A sample report is attached.  It is nice that 
the report is in both meters and feet.

-- 
Bill Gee



On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:49:32 AM CDT chris pennos wrote:
> Hi, I am also interested on volume calculation!
> 
> Please keep me updated it!
> 
> > On 11 Aug 2019, at 22:22, Benedikt Hallinger  wrote:
> > 
> > It would be awesome if the compiler could derive this fron the loch model 
> > and write it to the statistics block (the one where also loop closure info 
> > and total west/east and north/south dimwnsions are returned) when compiling 
> > this, as the neccessary data should be already present?
> > 
> >> Am 09.08.2019 um 14:58 schrieb Bill Gee :
> >> 
> >> Hello everyone - 
> >> 
> >> What tools can be used to calculate the volume of a cave based on center 
> >> line and LRUD data?
> >> 
> >> I found an email from Martin Sluka from about 4 years ago describing how 
> >> to use Loch to export a .lox file in other formats, then run that file 
> >> through CloudCompare or ParaView.  The process looks very complex to me, 
> >> and besides - Loch does not run on my computers, so there is no way for me 
> >> to generate an export.
> >> 
> >> As far as I can tell, Survex does not have a way to calculate volume.
> >> 
> >> Could it be done with a KML file and Google Earth?
> >> 
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Re: [Therion] How to calculate the volume of a cave

2019-08-14 Thread chris pennos
Hi, I am also interested on volume calculation!

Please keep me updated it!

> On 11 Aug 2019, at 22:22, Benedikt Hallinger  wrote:
> 
> It would be awesome if the compiler could derive this fron the loch model and 
> write it to the statistics block (the one where also loop closure info and 
> total west/east and north/south dimwnsions are returned) when compiling this, 
> as the neccessary data should be already present?
> 
>> Am 09.08.2019 um 14:58 schrieb Bill Gee :
>> 
>> Hello everyone - 
>> 
>> What tools can be used to calculate the volume of a cave based on center 
>> line and LRUD data?
>> 
>> I found an email from Martin Sluka from about 4 years ago describing how to 
>> use Loch to export a .lox file in other formats, then run that file through 
>> CloudCompare or ParaView.  The process looks very complex to me, and besides 
>> - Loch does not run on my computers, so there is no way for me to generate 
>> an export.
>> 
>> As far as I can tell, Survex does not have a way to calculate volume.
>> 
>> Could it be done with a KML file and Google Earth?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bill Gee
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Therion] How to calculate the volume of a cave

2019-08-11 Thread Benedikt Hallinger
It would be awesome if the compiler could derive this fron the loch model and 
write it to the statistics block (the one where also loop closure info and 
total west/east and north/south dimwnsions are returned) when compiling this, 
as the neccessary data should be already present?

> Am 09.08.2019 um 14:58 schrieb Bill Gee :
> 
> Hello everyone - 
> 
> What tools can be used to calculate the volume of a cave based on center line 
> and LRUD data?
> 
> I found an email from Martin Sluka from about 4 years ago describing how to 
> use Loch to export a .lox file in other formats, then run that file through 
> CloudCompare or ParaView.  The process looks very complex to me, and besides 
> - Loch does not run on my computers, so there is no way for me to generate an 
> export.
> 
> As far as I can tell, Survex does not have a way to calculate volume.
> 
> Could it be done with a KML file and Google Earth?
> 
> -- 
> Bill Gee
> 
> 
> 
> 
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