[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Mark S.

Hi Måns,

"problemspammer" ... cute

Your next problem is that there is no OrListSection
inside of TableOutListTest.

When I take out the OrListSection specification, it draws a table.
However, all the cells claim the corresponding tiddler can't be found.
Probably because they are all system tiddlers. But it will find and
display non-system tiddlers.

I'm not sure I understand why you would want to put all these tiddlers
into a table ... since the first line feed will break the table
formatting.


Mark

On Nov 12, 4:07 pm, Måns  wrote:
> Hi Mark
>
> I'm sorry to be such a "problemspammer" - (don't know a good word for
> it - ) but i *did* try to remove the space - and had the exact same
> errormessages in FF and GC...
>
> Now I've saved the changes and you can see it onlinehttp://tinyurl.com/yjvhlm5
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 13 Nov., 00:41, "Mark S."  wrote:
>
> > As I posted before, this line isn't right:
>
> > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
>
> > There is a space between the right parenthesis and the period here:
>
> >    "('$1') ."
>
> > That space must go!
>
> > HTH
> > Mark
>
> > On Nov 12, 10:24 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > Hmm - now it seems like there is another parameter I haven't specified
> > > properly:
> > > Error in FF:
> > > TypeError: store.getTiddlerText("TableOutListTest##OrListSection") is
> > > undefined
> > > Error in Google Chrome:
> > > TypeError: Cannot call method 'split' of undefined
>
> > > Please have a look here:http://tinyurl.com/yjvhlm5
>
> > > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > On 12 Nov., 18:23, "Mark S."  wrote:
>
> > > > Don't know if this is "for real", or a GG line break thing, but this
> > > > line:
>
> > > >  var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will
> > > > do
>
> > > > should probably be
>
> > > > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1').split('\n');//linebreaks will do
>
> > > > HTH
> > > > Mark
>
> > > > On Nov 12, 7:55 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > > Great Tobias
> > > > > Thanks for clearing things up..
> > > > > I really want to see your script in action - as it has been a thing I
> > > > > wished to be able to do for a long time and it seems to be able to do
> > > > > more than my script does :
> > > > > You also joined the thread where I got my script from 
> > > > > Erichttp://tinyurl.com/yzj4klyInactionhttp://tinyurl.com/yjhghpl
>
> > > > > When I run your script I get "ReferenceError: items is not defined".
> > > > > I haven't changed anything in the script (except for repairing googles
> > > > > linebreaks)-
> > > > > I even called the script "out" as proposed - and made a another
> > > > > tiddler with a lineseparated list which gave me the reference error
> > > > > when run <> -
> > > > > then I changed the list to a lineseparated list with wikilinks [[]] -
> > > > > same error -
> > > > > and finally to a hr-separated list. Same error...
>
> > > > > There's no error shown in the "out" tiddler (if it *should* be blank -
> > > > > that is?) - it's only when I try to run it...
>
> > > > > I will try to deliver a MTC - in about an hour - have to set it up
> > > > > first...
>
> > > > > However - if you see that I've made an obvious mistake (I often do -
> > > > > even if I slow down...) - please reply
>
> > > > > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > > > On 12 Nov., 15:11, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi Mans,
>
> > > > > > Your scripts doesn't work (here) for a number of reasons.
>
> > > > > > 1) It doesn't output any tiddler text
> > > > > > 2) it doesn't properly close the table on any number of hr-separated
> > > > > > tiddlers that is not a multiple of 5
> > > > > > 3) if it actually was to output tiddler text, it wouldn't work,
> > > > > > because you would have to ensure that the tiddler-text wouldn't 
> > > > > > break
> > > > > > the table syntax... so you might have to put < > > > > > embedThisTidder>> into table cells
> > > > > > 4) yet, using <> to embed its content wouldn't
> > > > > > actually collate the tiddler contents as Morris was looking for
>
> > > > > > Also...
> > > > > > *you don't need hr's... simple linebreaks will do too, even a
> > > > > > bracketed list
>
> > > > > > I have been fiddling with your codebits to make something I would
> > > > > > consider a workable solution:
>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > var i,n,out='',tid,txt;
> > > > > > if('$1'=='$'+'1')return;//no list, no output
> > > > > > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will 
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > var cols=parseInt('$2');if(isNaN(cols))cols=5;//num cols as 2nd 
> > > > > > param
> > > > > > n=(parseInt(items.length/cols)+1)*cols;//num cells as multiple of 
> > > > > > num
> > > > > > cols
> > > > > > for(i=0;i > > > > >         if(i&&i%cols==0)out+="|\n";//new row
> > > > > >         ti=items[i];//title
> > > > > >         tid=store.getTiddler(ti);//tiddler
> > > > > >         out+='|'+(tid?'<>':(ti?'!@@color:red; 
> > > > > > "'+ti+'"
> > > > > > not found!@@':''))

[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

2009-11-12 Thread AlanBCohen

Tobias,
Thanks for the information on using iframes to embed one TW file in
the GUI on another.  I implemented that earlier today between several
files I use as more or less static data repositories and my work
machine homepage.

Alan
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[tw] Re: Killing TiddlyTagMindMap

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Thanks for explaining Jon

It's very nice to see images in the VGraph...
However it seems that the tooltip [["+tiddler.title+"]] doesn't work.
Instead there's an ugly "]]" in front of the titles (modified tiddlers
- not shadowed) in the VGraph..
Is it me who has broken the ImagelabelMacro syntax - or doesn't it
work?

Thanks again

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 13 Nov., 00:13, rakugo  wrote:
> No way to set width yet without resorting to css.
> try this to use the ImageLabelMacro on the graph
> < centerOn:systemConfig  excludeTags:{{[]}} ignoreLoneNodes:true
> labelMacro:ImageLabelMacro>>
>
> Images look a bit too big though so you will need to tweak the code I
> gave you above
> where it says
> "[img(100px+,75px+)["
> set that to the dimensions you would like. Alternatively just remove
> the text "(100px+,75px+)" and use css to style them
> .canvasLabel img {width:20px;} in your StyleSheet tiddler should do
> the job..
> Jon
>
> On Nov 12, 10:40 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi again Jon
>
> > I've tried to make the ImageLabelMacro - without success..
> > I've also experimented with ShowPopup and Nested Sliders - and to
> > insert one of them into the Pagetemplate...
>
> > I've made a MTC here  http://tinyurl.com/yldtqtt-with more
> > information..
>
> > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > On 12 Nov., 20:15, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
> > > with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
> > > However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
> > > Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
>
> > > Try adding a plugin like this:
> > > config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
> > > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > > wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
> > > +"]]",place)}};
>
> > > along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.
>
> > > Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
> > > image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
> > > Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
>
> > > Hope this makes sense..
> > > Jon
>
> > > On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > Images as nodeheads?
> > > > Request:
> > > > Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> > > > Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> > > > an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> > > > If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> > > > size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> > > > edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
>
> > > > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > > On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > > Thank you very much Jon!
> > > > > Also for making a working solution adding the  > > > > Great!
>
> > > > > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > >         
>
> > > > >                          > > > > tiddler='SiteTitle'> > > > > span> 
> > > > >                          > > > > tiddler='SiteSubtitle'>
>
> > > > >         
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >         
> > > > >          > > > > div>
> > > > > 
>
> > > > > (Also from Mitchke Leemans' site)
>
> > > > > Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> > > > > Width, height and startstate?
>
> > > > > YS Mårtensson
>
> > > > > On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > > > > That was great.
> > > > > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > > > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > > > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > > > > {{['tag']}}'
> > > > > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > > > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > > > > solved.
> > > > > > eg.  macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}"
> > > > > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version 
> > > > > > here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html
> > > > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
>
> > > > > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > > > > Jon
>
> > > > > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi Jon
>
> > > > > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I 
> > > > > > > could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5
> > > > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background 
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
>
> > > > > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > > > > version...
>
> > > > > > > YS Måns mårtensson
>
> >

[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Hi Mark

I'm sorry to be such a "problemspammer" - (don't know a good word for
it - ) but i *did* try to remove the space - and had the exact same
errormessages in FF and GC...

Now I've saved the changes and you can see it online http://tinyurl.com/yjvhlm5

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 13 Nov., 00:41, "Mark S."  wrote:
> As I posted before, this line isn't right:
>
> var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
>
> There is a space between the right parenthesis and the period here:
>
>    "('$1') ."
>
> That space must go!
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
> On Nov 12, 10:24 am, Måns  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hmm - now it seems like there is another parameter I haven't specified
> > properly:
> > Error in FF:
> > TypeError: store.getTiddlerText("TableOutListTest##OrListSection") is
> > undefined
> > Error in Google Chrome:
> > TypeError: Cannot call method 'split' of undefined
>
> > Please have a look here:http://tinyurl.com/yjvhlm5
>
> > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > On 12 Nov., 18:23, "Mark S."  wrote:
>
> > > Don't know if this is "for real", or a GG line break thing, but this
> > > line:
>
> > >  var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will
> > > do
>
> > > should probably be
>
> > > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1').split('\n');//linebreaks will do
>
> > > HTH
> > > Mark
>
> > > On Nov 12, 7:55 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > Great Tobias
> > > > Thanks for clearing things up..
> > > > I really want to see your script in action - as it has been a thing I
> > > > wished to be able to do for a long time and it seems to be able to do
> > > > more than my script does :
> > > > You also joined the thread where I got my script from 
> > > > Erichttp://tinyurl.com/yzj4klyInactionhttp://tinyurl.com/yjhghpl
>
> > > > When I run your script I get "ReferenceError: items is not defined".
> > > > I haven't changed anything in the script (except for repairing googles
> > > > linebreaks)-
> > > > I even called the script "out" as proposed - and made a another
> > > > tiddler with a lineseparated list which gave me the reference error
> > > > when run <> -
> > > > then I changed the list to a lineseparated list with wikilinks [[]] -
> > > > same error -
> > > > and finally to a hr-separated list. Same error...
>
> > > > There's no error shown in the "out" tiddler (if it *should* be blank -
> > > > that is?) - it's only when I try to run it...
>
> > > > I will try to deliver a MTC - in about an hour - have to set it up
> > > > first...
>
> > > > However - if you see that I've made an obvious mistake (I often do -
> > > > even if I slow down...) - please reply
>
> > > > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > > On 12 Nov., 15:11, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi Mans,
>
> > > > > Your scripts doesn't work (here) for a number of reasons.
>
> > > > > 1) It doesn't output any tiddler text
> > > > > 2) it doesn't properly close the table on any number of hr-separated
> > > > > tiddlers that is not a multiple of 5
> > > > > 3) if it actually was to output tiddler text, it wouldn't work,
> > > > > because you would have to ensure that the tiddler-text wouldn't break
> > > > > the table syntax... so you might have to put < > > > > embedThisTidder>> into table cells
> > > > > 4) yet, using <> to embed its content wouldn't
> > > > > actually collate the tiddler contents as Morris was looking for
>
> > > > > Also...
> > > > > *you don't need hr's... simple linebreaks will do too, even a
> > > > > bracketed list
>
> > > > > I have been fiddling with your codebits to make something I would
> > > > > consider a workable solution:
>
> > > > > 
> > > > > var i,n,out='',tid,txt;
> > > > > if('$1'=='$'+'1')return;//no list, no output
> > > > > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
> > > > > var cols=parseInt('$2');if(isNaN(cols))cols=5;//num cols as 2nd param
> > > > > n=(parseInt(items.length/cols)+1)*cols;//num cells as multiple of num
> > > > > cols
> > > > > for(i=0;i > > > >         if(i&&i%cols==0)out+="|\n";//new row
> > > > >         ti=items[i];//title
> > > > >         tid=store.getTiddler(ti);//tiddler
> > > > >         out+='|'+(tid?'<>':(ti?'!@@color:red; 
> > > > > "'+ti+'"
> > > > > not found!@@':''));//add item to row}
>
> > > > > out+="|\n";//end last row
> > > > > return out;
> > > > > 
>
> > > > > Assuming script-tiddler is called 'out', you can call it via
> > > > > <>
>
> > > > > Where 3 would be the number of columns.
>
> > > > > Regards, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread Amzg

> TiddlyWeb already comes with an (optional) pure-Python server, making  
> it fully 
> portable:http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#%5B%5BInstalling%20on%20Windows%5...
>
> -- F.


WOW! Does this mean free individual tiddlers, kind of instant website-
lets, possible to download and manipulate into new variants, available
anytime the USB is plugged in? Maybe even findable via SE's?

(Now if I only knew even how to spell Piton.. Pytun... Py... point
being that I understand zipf of the TiddlyWeb documentation or how to
set up a server  ;-)
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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

2009-11-12 Thread Eric Shulman

> Interesting. I've read the plugin descriptions but if I understand it
> correctly it does not quite solve the suggested push idea outlined in
> the first post. I'm guessing that "merging" at best adds stuff to a
> already existing tiddler (as opposed to e.g freely replacing the
> contents)

That is not correct.  ExportTiddlersPlugin and SaveAsPlugin merge
*documents*, not tiddlers.  If an existing document contains 5
tiddlers: A,B,C,D, and E, and then you export or saveas tiddlers named
C,E,X,Y and Z, then the resulting document would contain tiddlers
A,B,C,D,E,X,Y and Z, where the previous C and E tiddlers have been
replaced by new ones and X,Y, and Z have been added.

> it seems some work in specifying exactly which tiddlers
> to 'push' that cannot be automated.

Using SaveAsPlugin, you can select tiddlers by tag value.  When
loading tiddlers from another document (using LoadTiddlerPlugin), you
could add a unique tag so they can then be selected later on when
using <> to update the other document.

-e

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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

> Bidix's UploadTiddlerPlugin;
> 1) does it let you upload both updated tiddlers and *brand new*
> tiddlers?

Yes (one problem I've discovered though is that you can't really
delete a tiddler completely - You can replace it with a modified
tiddler - but not delete, unless you make a total upload of the whole
TW document. )

> 2) does it allow choosing between multiple external TWs to upload to?
Yes, but one at a time - use the box UploadTiddlerStoreUrl : <>

> 3) would those check boxes be possible to place in the tiddler
> template? (but of course only uploading the name+tags+contents)
The checkboxes I use - simply add fieldvalues or tags to tiddlers -
it's the script which runs an "update" of the tiddlers tagged with a
specified tag that does the actual "saveselectedtiddlers2web" action.

...but, thinking of it, just maybe it *would* work in combo with
> Abegos IncludePlugin (IP). IP would let you use tags and the iFrame
> would let you edit the source tiddler. Now if only the iFrame could be
> connected with the IP-tiddler somehow...
You would need to rerun the "IP" everytime (Page reload) you needed
the masterTW to reflect your changes - so it's not very usable - yet..

> TiddlyChatter looks interesting, but I think I understand the 'hair
> aspect' you refer to. (BTW, slick color scheme for TiddlyChatter!)
Here's a discussion started by Paolo Soares addressing some of the
limitations of the plugin: http://tinyurl.com/yf6ye69

> Maybe that TiddlyWeb project will solve all this? Too advanced for me
> though.http://www.tiddlyweb.com/
I hope so - there is a very interesting thread about a possible
portable solution: http://tinyurl.com/yj6235g
> Thank you!
You are absolutely welcome.

regards Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Mark S.

As I posted before, this line isn't right:

var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do

There is a space between the right parenthesis and the period here:

   "('$1') ."

That space must go!

HTH
Mark

On Nov 12, 10:24 am, Måns  wrote:
> Hmm - now it seems like there is another parameter I haven't specified
> properly:
> Error in FF:
> TypeError: store.getTiddlerText("TableOutListTest##OrListSection") is
> undefined
> Error in Google Chrome:
> TypeError: Cannot call method 'split' of undefined
>
> Please have a look here:http://tinyurl.com/yjvhlm5
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 12 Nov., 18:23, "Mark S."  wrote:
>
> > Don't know if this is "for real", or a GG line break thing, but this
> > line:
>
> >  var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will
> > do
>
> > should probably be
>
> > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1').split('\n');//linebreaks will do
>
> > HTH
> > Mark
>
> > On Nov 12, 7:55 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > Great Tobias
> > > Thanks for clearing things up..
> > > I really want to see your script in action - as it has been a thing I
> > > wished to be able to do for a long time and it seems to be able to do
> > > more than my script does :
> > > You also joined the thread where I got my script from 
> > > Erichttp://tinyurl.com/yzj4klyInactionhttp://tinyurl.com/yjhghpl
>
> > > When I run your script I get "ReferenceError: items is not defined".
> > > I haven't changed anything in the script (except for repairing googles
> > > linebreaks)-
> > > I even called the script "out" as proposed - and made a another
> > > tiddler with a lineseparated list which gave me the reference error
> > > when run <> -
> > > then I changed the list to a lineseparated list with wikilinks [[]] -
> > > same error -
> > > and finally to a hr-separated list. Same error...
>
> > > There's no error shown in the "out" tiddler (if it *should* be blank -
> > > that is?) - it's only when I try to run it...
>
> > > I will try to deliver a MTC - in about an hour - have to set it up
> > > first...
>
> > > However - if you see that I've made an obvious mistake (I often do -
> > > even if I slow down...) - please reply
>
> > > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > On 12 Nov., 15:11, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Mans,
>
> > > > Your scripts doesn't work (here) for a number of reasons.
>
> > > > 1) It doesn't output any tiddler text
> > > > 2) it doesn't properly close the table on any number of hr-separated
> > > > tiddlers that is not a multiple of 5
> > > > 3) if it actually was to output tiddler text, it wouldn't work,
> > > > because you would have to ensure that the tiddler-text wouldn't break
> > > > the table syntax... so you might have to put < > > > embedThisTidder>> into table cells
> > > > 4) yet, using <> to embed its content wouldn't
> > > > actually collate the tiddler contents as Morris was looking for
>
> > > > Also...
> > > > *you don't need hr's... simple linebreaks will do too, even a
> > > > bracketed list
>
> > > > I have been fiddling with your codebits to make something I would
> > > > consider a workable solution:
>
> > > > 
> > > > var i,n,out='',tid,txt;
> > > > if('$1'=='$'+'1')return;//no list, no output
> > > > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
> > > > var cols=parseInt('$2');if(isNaN(cols))cols=5;//num cols as 2nd param
> > > > n=(parseInt(items.length/cols)+1)*cols;//num cells as multiple of num
> > > > cols
> > > > for(i=0;i > > >         if(i&&i%cols==0)out+="|\n";//new row
> > > >         ti=items[i];//title
> > > >         tid=store.getTiddler(ti);//tiddler
> > > >         out+='|'+(tid?'<>':(ti?'!@@color:red; 
> > > > "'+ti+'"
> > > > not found!@@':''));//add item to row}
>
> > > > out+="|\n";//end last row
> > > > return out;
> > > > 
>
> > > > Assuming script-tiddler is called 'out', you can call it via
> > > > <>
>
> > > > Where 3 would be the number of columns.
>
> > > > Regards, Tobias.
>
>
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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

I agree

I've used Mowes with good results http://www.chsoftware.net/en/useware/mowes/
mowes.htm
http://tinyurl.com/yjrqffd
I tried to setup TiddlyWeb as well - but I didn't succeed
http://tinyurl.com/yz5kzou
I'd love if someone made a preinstalled package in the *.paf
format ...

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 12 Nov., 23:41, Amzg  wrote:
> Now taken care of.http://portableapps.com/node/21453
>
> (BTW I notice a portable server(!) there. I only have a vague idea of
> what TiddlyWeb is, but the thought of a personal USB stick as a server
> loaded with single tiddlers that can be shared around the globe...
> whoaa!)http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp
>
> On Nov 12, 2:43 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hmmm I've not been able to find out how one nominates an app for
> > inclusion. I agree that TiddlyWiki's maturity makes it a reasonable
> > candidate for inclusion.
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Jerm
>
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AlanBCohen  wrote:
>
> > > And quite a few of us who already use both.  I find my TW files work
> > > quite well with the portable version of Firefox on the PortableApps
> > > site.
> > > Alan
>
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[tw] Re: Killing TiddlyTagMindMap

2009-11-12 Thread rakugo

No way to set width yet without resorting to css.
try this to use the ImageLabelMacro on the graph
<>

Images look a bit too big though so you will need to tweak the code I
gave you above
where it says
"[img(100px+,75px+)["
set that to the dimensions you would like. Alternatively just remove
the text "(100px+,75px+)" and use css to style them
.canvasLabel img {width:20px;} in your StyleSheet tiddler should do
the job..
Jon

On Nov 12, 10:40 pm, Måns  wrote:
> Hi again Jon
>
> I've tried to make the ImageLabelMacro - without success..
> I've also experimented with ShowPopup and Nested Sliders - and to
> insert one of them into the Pagetemplate...
>
> I've made a MTC here  http://tinyurl.com/yldtqtt- with more
> information..
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 12 Nov., 20:15, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
> > with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
> > However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
> > Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
>
> > Try adding a plugin like this:
> > config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
> > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
> > +"]]",place)}};
>
> > along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.
>
> > Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
> > image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
> > Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
>
> > Hope this makes sense..
> > Jon
>
> > On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > Images as nodeheads?
> > > Request:
> > > Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> > > Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> > > an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> > > If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> > > size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> > > edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
>
> > > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > Thank you very much Jon!
> > > > Also for making a working solution adding the  > > > Great!
>
> > > > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > > > 
> > > >         
>
> > > >                          > > > tiddler='SiteTitle'> > > > span> 
> > > >                          > > > tiddler='SiteSubtitle'>
>
> > > >         
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >         
> > > >          > > > div>
> > > > 
>
> > > > (Also from Mitchke Leemans' site)
>
> > > > Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> > > > Width, height and startstate?
>
> > > > YS Mårtensson
>
> > > > On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > > > That was great.
> > > > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > > > -
> > > > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > > > {{['tag']}}'
> > > > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > > > solved.
> > > > > eg.  macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}"
> > > > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version 
> > > > > here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html
> > > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
>
> > > > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > > > Jon
>
> > > > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi Jon
>
> > > > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I 
> > > > > > could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5
> > > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
>
> > > > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > > > version...
>
> > > > > > YS Måns mårtensson
>
> > > > > > On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge 
> > > > > > > cases to
> > > > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler 
> > > > > > > relationships
> > > > > > > are causing the recursion  it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet 
> > > > > > > though) -
> > > > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
>
> > > > > > > Jon
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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Thanks Amzg, that's very efficient, and very helpful. It would indeed
be good to get TiddlyWeb packaged appropriately so that it can be
listed, too.

Cheers

Jeremy

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Amzg  wrote:
>
> Now taken care of.
> http://portableapps.com/node/21453
>
>
> (BTW I notice a portable server(!) there. I only have a vague idea of
> what TiddlyWeb is, but the thought of a personal USB stick as a server
> loaded with single tiddlers that can be shared around the globe...
> whoaa!)
> http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2:43 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>> Hmmm I've not been able to find out how one nominates an app for
>> inclusion. I agree that TiddlyWiki's maturity makes it a reasonable
>> candidate for inclusion.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jerm
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AlanBCohen  wrote:
>>
>> > And quite a few of us who already use both.  I find my TW files work
>> > quite well with the portable version of Firefox on the PortableApps
>> > site.
>> > Alan
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> mailto:jer...@osmosoft.comhttp://www.tiddlywiki.com
> >
>



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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread FND

> I notice a portable server(!) there. I only have a vague idea of
> what TiddlyWeb is, but the thought of a personal USB stick as a server
> loaded with single tiddlers that can be shared around the globe...
> whoaa!

TiddlyWeb already comes with an (optional) pure-Python server, making  
it fully portable:
http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#%5B%5BInstalling%20on%20Windows%5D%5D


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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread Amzg

Now taken care of.
http://portableapps.com/node/21453


(BTW I notice a portable server(!) there. I only have a vague idea of
what TiddlyWeb is, but the thought of a personal USB stick as a server
loaded with single tiddlers that can be shared around the globe...
whoaa!)
http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp


On Nov 12, 2:43 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> Hmmm I've not been able to find out how one nominates an app for
> inclusion. I agree that TiddlyWiki's maturity makes it a reasonable
> candidate for inclusion.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jerm
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AlanBCohen  wrote:
>
> > And quite a few of us who already use both.  I find my TW files work
> > quite well with the portable version of Firefox on the PortableApps
> > site.
> > Alan
>
> --
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[tw] Re: Killing TiddlyTagMindMap

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Hi again Jon

I've tried to make the ImageLabelMacro - without success..
I've also experimented with ShowPopup and Nested Sliders - and to
insert one of them into the Pagetemplate...

I've made a MTC here  http://tinyurl.com/yldtqtt - with more
information..

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 12 Nov., 20:15, rakugo  wrote:
> It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
> with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
> However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
> Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
>
> Try adding a plugin like this:
> config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
> (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
> +"]]",place)}};
>
> along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.
>
> Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
> image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
> Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
>
> Hope this makes sense..
> Jon
>
> On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Images as nodeheads?
> > Request:
> > Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> > Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> > an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> > If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> > size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> > edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
>
> > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > Thank you very much Jon!
> > > Also for making a working solution adding the  > > Great!
>
> > > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > > 
> > >         
>
> > >                          > > tiddler='SiteTitle'> > > span> 
> > >                          > > tiddler='SiteSubtitle'>
>
> > >         
> > > 
> > > 
> > >         
> > >          > > div>
> > > 
>
> > > (Also from Mitchke Leemans' site)
>
> > > Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> > > Width, height and startstate?
>
> > > YS Mårtensson
>
> > > On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > > That was great.
> > > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > > -
> > > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > > {{['tag']}}'
> > > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > > solved.
> > > > eg.  macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}"
> > > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version 
> > > > here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html
> > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
>
> > > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > > Jon
>
> > > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi Jon
>
> > > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I 
> > > > > could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5
> > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
>
> > > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > > version...
>
> > > > > YS Måns mårtensson
>
> > > > > On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler 
> > > > > > relationships
> > > > > > are causing the recursion  it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
>
> > > > > > Jon
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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

2009-11-12 Thread Amzg

On Nov 11, 12:41 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> Both ExportTiddlersPlugin (interactive) and SaveAsPlugin (macro) can
> be used to *merge* selected tiddlers into an existing TW document.

Interesting. I've read the plugin descriptions but if I understand it
correctly it does not quite solve the suggested push idea outlined in
the first post. I'm guessing that "mering" at best adds stuff to a
already existing tiddler (as opposed to e.g freely replacing the
contents) and it seems some work in specifying exactly which tiddlers
to 'push' that cannot be automated.

Interesting plugins though!

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[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki

2009-11-12 Thread Lyall

Of course, the lines don't wrap like shown in the news post.

On Nov 13, 7:46 am, Lyall  wrote:
> ToolbarCommands, not toolbarCommands.
>
> Here is what mine contains...
>
> |~ViewToolbar|collapseTiddler collapseOthers closeTiddler closeOthers
> decryptThis +editTiddler intelliTagsEdit > fields syncing permalink
> references jump|
> |~EditToolbar|+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler|
>
> ...Lyall
>
> On Nov 13, 4:38 am, Alex  wrote:
>
> > I have tired adding the decruptThis button to my toolbarCommands, but
> > it still will not show up.
>
> > On Nov 10, 4:55 pm, "Mark S."  wrote:
>
> > > With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have
> > > to add the decryptThis button manually to the "ToolbarCommands"
> > > tiddler, like:
>
> > > |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler
> > > deleteTiddler > fields syncing permalink references jump|
>
> > > Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use
> > > discretion.
>
> > > On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex  wrote:
>
> > > > Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have
> > > > tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the
> > > > TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to
> > > > somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on
> > > > the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one "prompt" at a
> > > > time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system
> > > > with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want.
> > > > I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but
> > > > I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple
> > > > passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of
> > > > these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific
> > > > difficulties I'm having. Thanks
>
> > > > ~Alex
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[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki

2009-11-12 Thread Lyall

ToolbarCommands, not toolbarCommands.

Here is what mine contains...

|~ViewToolbar|collapseTiddler collapseOthers closeTiddler closeOthers
decryptThis +editTiddler intelliTagsEdit > fields syncing permalink
references jump|
|~EditToolbar|+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler|

...Lyall

On Nov 13, 4:38 am, Alex  wrote:
> I have tired adding the decruptThis button to my toolbarCommands, but
> it still will not show up.
>
> On Nov 10, 4:55 pm, "Mark S."  wrote:
>
> > With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have
> > to add the decryptThis button manually to the "ToolbarCommands"
> > tiddler, like:
>
> > |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler
> > deleteTiddler > fields syncing permalink references jump|
>
> > Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use
> > discretion.
>
> > On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex  wrote:
>
> > > Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have
> > > tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the
> > > TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to
> > > somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on
> > > the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one "prompt" at a
> > > time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system
> > > with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want.
> > > I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but
> > > I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple
> > > passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of
> > > these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific
> > > difficulties I'm having. Thanks
>
> > > ~Alex
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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

2009-11-12 Thread Amzg

Thank you all.

Måns,

Bidix's UploadTiddlerPlugin;
1) does it let you upload both updated tiddlers and *brand new*
tiddlers?
2) does it allow choosing between multiple external TWs to upload to?
3) would those check boxes be possible to place in the tiddler
template? (but of course only uploading the name+tags+contents)

iFrame;
I've used it too, but the major drawback is of course lack of
integration with the central TW. I.e it does not make sense to, for
instance, tag central tiddlers with names of external tiddlers.
...but, thinking of it, just maybe it *would* work in combo with
Abegos IncludePlugin (IP). IP would let you use tags and the iFrame
would let you edit the source tiddler. Now if only the iFrame could be
connected with the IP-tiddler somehow...

TiddlyChatter looks interesting, but I think I understand the 'hair
aspect' you refer to. (BTW, slick color scheme for TiddlyChatter!)


Maybe that TiddlyWeb project will solve all this? Too advanced for me
though.
http://www.tiddlyweb.com/

Thank you!
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[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki

2009-11-12 Thread Alex

Mike, in the Encrypted Vault Plugin, you said set the password in the
plugin, how would i do that?

On Nov 10, 4:57 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I have tried both, I am currently using TiddlerEncryption vs
> EncryptedVault (had some problems with thevault, and random
> characters appearing inside my tiddlers in TW 2.4.2)
>
> http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/EncryptedVaultPlugin.html(last
> update 12/07)
> set the password in theplugin(one password protects entire 
> document)http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.ht...
> (last update 10/08)
> set the password for a tag or group of tiddlers (one password per
> group)
> If encryption is not required you could 
> try:http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TiddlerPasswordPlugin
> password via template & user level controls
>
> Mike
>
> On Nov 10, 2:15 pm, Alex  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have
> > tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the
> > TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to
> > somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on
> > the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one "prompt" at a
> > time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system
> > with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want.
> > I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but
> > I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple
> > passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of
> > these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific
> > difficulties I'm having. Thanks
>
> > ~Alex
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[tw] Re: Killing TiddlyTagMindMap

2009-11-12 Thread rakugo

It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?

Try adding a plugin like this:
config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
(place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
+"]]",place)
}};
along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.

Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)

Hope this makes sense..
Jon


On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns  wrote:
> Images as nodeheads?
> Request:
> Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns  wrote:
>
> > Thank you very much Jon!
> > Also for making a working solution adding the  > Great!
>
> > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > 
> > 
> > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > 
> >         
>
> >                          > tiddler='SiteTitle'> > span> 
> >                          > tiddler='SiteSubtitle'>
>
> >         
> > 
> > 
> >         
> >          > div>
> > 
>
> > (Also from Mitchke Leemans' site)
>
> > Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> > Width, height and startstate?
>
> > YS Mårtensson
>
> > On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > That was great.
> > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > -
> > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > {{['tag']}}'
> > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > solved.
> > > eg.  macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}"
> > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version 
> > > here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html
> > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
>
> > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > Jon
>
> > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Jon
>
> > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5
> > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
>
> > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > version...
>
> > > > YS Måns mårtensson
>
> > > > On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > > are causing the recursion  it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
>
> > > > > Jon
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[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki

2009-11-12 Thread Alex

I have tired adding the decruptThis button to my toolbarCommands, but
it still will not show up.

On Nov 10, 4:55 pm, "Mark S."  wrote:
> With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have
> to add the decryptThis button manually to the "ToolbarCommands"
> tiddler, like:
>
> |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler
> deleteTiddler > fields syncing permalink references jump|
>
> Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use
> discretion.
>
> On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have
> > tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the
> > TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to
> > somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on
> > the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one "prompt" at a
> > time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system
> > with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want.
> > I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but
> > I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple
> > passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of
> > these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific
> > difficulties I'm having. Thanks
>
> > ~Alex
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[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Hmm - now it seems like there is another parameter I haven't specified
properly:
Error in FF:
TypeError: store.getTiddlerText("TableOutListTest##OrListSection") is
undefined
Error in Google Chrome:
TypeError: Cannot call method 'split' of undefined

Please have a look here: http://tinyurl.com/yjvhlm5

YS Måns Mårtensson


On 12 Nov., 18:23, "Mark S."  wrote:
> Don't know if this is "for real", or a GG line break thing, but this
> line:
>
>  var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will
> do
>
> should probably be
>
> var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1').split('\n');//linebreaks will do
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
> On Nov 12, 7:55 am, Måns  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Great Tobias
> > Thanks for clearing things up..
> > I really want to see your script in action - as it has been a thing I
> > wished to be able to do for a long time and it seems to be able to do
> > more than my script does :
> > You also joined the thread where I got my script from 
> > Erichttp://tinyurl.com/yzj4klyInactionhttp://tinyurl.com/yjhghpl
>
> > When I run your script I get "ReferenceError: items is not defined".
> > I haven't changed anything in the script (except for repairing googles
> > linebreaks)-
> > I even called the script "out" as proposed - and made a another
> > tiddler with a lineseparated list which gave me the reference error
> > when run <> -
> > then I changed the list to a lineseparated list with wikilinks [[]] -
> > same error -
> > and finally to a hr-separated list. Same error...
>
> > There's no error shown in the "out" tiddler (if it *should* be blank -
> > that is?) - it's only when I try to run it...
>
> > I will try to deliver a MTC - in about an hour - have to set it up
> > first...
>
> > However - if you see that I've made an obvious mistake (I often do -
> > even if I slow down...) - please reply
>
> > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > On 12 Nov., 15:11, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Mans,
>
> > > Your scripts doesn't work (here) for a number of reasons.
>
> > > 1) It doesn't output any tiddler text
> > > 2) it doesn't properly close the table on any number of hr-separated
> > > tiddlers that is not a multiple of 5
> > > 3) if it actually was to output tiddler text, it wouldn't work,
> > > because you would have to ensure that the tiddler-text wouldn't break
> > > the table syntax... so you might have to put < > > embedThisTidder>> into table cells
> > > 4) yet, using <> to embed its content wouldn't
> > > actually collate the tiddler contents as Morris was looking for
>
> > > Also...
> > > *you don't need hr's... simple linebreaks will do too, even a
> > > bracketed list
>
> > > I have been fiddling with your codebits to make something I would
> > > consider a workable solution:
>
> > > 
> > > var i,n,out='',tid,txt;
> > > if('$1'=='$'+'1')return;//no list, no output
> > > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
> > > var cols=parseInt('$2');if(isNaN(cols))cols=5;//num cols as 2nd param
> > > n=(parseInt(items.length/cols)+1)*cols;//num cells as multiple of num
> > > cols
> > > for(i=0;i > >         if(i&&i%cols==0)out+="|\n";//new row
> > >         ti=items[i];//title
> > >         tid=store.getTiddler(ti);//tiddler
> > >         out+='|'+(tid?'<>':(ti?'!@@color:red; "'+ti+'"
> > > not found!@@':''));//add item to row}
>
> > > out+="|\n";//end last row
> > > return out;
> > > 
>
> > > Assuming script-tiddler is called 'out', you can call it via
> > > <>
>
> > > Where 3 would be the number of columns.
>
> > > Regards, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Killing TiddlyTagMindMap

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Images as nodeheads?
Request:
Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
edit all images to fit in the VGraph...

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns  wrote:
> Thank you very much Jon!
> Also for making a working solution adding the  Great!
>
> My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> 
> 
> and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> 
>         
>
>                          tiddler='SiteTitle'> span> 
>                          tiddler='SiteSubtitle'>
>
>         
> 
> 
>         
>          div>
> 
>
> (Also from Mitchke Leemans' site)
>
> Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> Width, height and startstate?
>
> YS Mårtensson
>
> On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo  wrote:
>
>
>
> > That was great.
> > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > -
> > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > {{['tag']}}'
> > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > solved.
> > eg.  macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}"
> > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version 
> > here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html
> > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
>
> > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > Jon
>
> > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Jon
>
> > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5
> > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
>
> > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > version...
>
> > > YS Måns mårtensson
>
> > > On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > are causing the recursion  it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
>
> > > > Jon
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[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Mark S.

Don't know if this is "for real", or a GG line break thing, but this
line:

 var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will
do

should probably be

var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1').split('\n');//linebreaks will do

HTH
Mark

On Nov 12, 7:55 am, Måns  wrote:
> Great Tobias
> Thanks for clearing things up..
> I really want to see your script in action - as it has been a thing I
> wished to be able to do for a long time and it seems to be able to do
> more than my script does :
> You also joined the thread where I got my script from 
> Erichttp://tinyurl.com/yzj4klyIn actionhttp://tinyurl.com/yjhghpl
>
> When I run your script I get "ReferenceError: items is not defined".
> I haven't changed anything in the script (except for repairing googles
> linebreaks)-
> I even called the script "out" as proposed - and made a another
> tiddler with a lineseparated list which gave me the reference error
> when run <> -
> then I changed the list to a lineseparated list with wikilinks [[]] -
> same error -
> and finally to a hr-separated list. Same error...
>
> There's no error shown in the "out" tiddler (if it *should* be blank -
> that is?) - it's only when I try to run it...
>
> I will try to deliver a MTC - in about an hour - have to set it up
> first...
>
> However - if you see that I've made an obvious mistake (I often do -
> even if I slow down...) - please reply
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 12 Nov., 15:11, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
> > Hi Mans,
>
> > Your scripts doesn't work (here) for a number of reasons.
>
> > 1) It doesn't output any tiddler text
> > 2) it doesn't properly close the table on any number of hr-separated
> > tiddlers that is not a multiple of 5
> > 3) if it actually was to output tiddler text, it wouldn't work,
> > because you would have to ensure that the tiddler-text wouldn't break
> > the table syntax... so you might have to put < > embedThisTidder>> into table cells
> > 4) yet, using <> to embed its content wouldn't
> > actually collate the tiddler contents as Morris was looking for
>
> > Also...
> > *you don't need hr's... simple linebreaks will do too, even a
> > bracketed list
>
> > I have been fiddling with your codebits to make something I would
> > consider a workable solution:
>
> > 
> > var i,n,out='',tid,txt;
> > if('$1'=='$'+'1')return;//no list, no output
> > var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
> > var cols=parseInt('$2');if(isNaN(cols))cols=5;//num cols as 2nd param
> > n=(parseInt(items.length/cols)+1)*cols;//num cells as multiple of num
> > cols
> > for(i=0;i >         if(i&&i%cols==0)out+="|\n";//new row
> >         ti=items[i];//title
> >         tid=store.getTiddler(ti);//tiddler
> >         out+='|'+(tid?'<>':(ti?'!@@color:red; "'+ti+'"
> > not found!@@':''));//add item to row}
>
> > out+="|\n";//end last row
> > return out;
> > 
>
> > Assuming script-tiddler is called 'out', you can call it via
> > <>
>
> > Where 3 would be the number of columns.
>
> > Regards, Tobias.
>
>
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[tw] Re: Killing TiddlyTagMindMap

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Thank you very much Jon!
Also for making a working solution adding the http://doordouwe.nl/)


and make it work with moveable panels like this:



 









(Also from Mitchke Leemans' site)

Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
Width, height and startstate?


YS Mårtensson

On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo  wrote:
> That was great.
> There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> -
> you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> {{['tag']}}'
> and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> solved.
> eg.  macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}"
> Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version 
> here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html
> That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
>
> Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> Jon
>
> On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Jon
>
> > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5
> > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
>
> > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > version...
>
> > YS Måns mårtensson
>
> > On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > are causing the recursion  it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > hopefully this is the same thing.
>
> > > Jon
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[tw] Re: Mediawiki import not working

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Budden

You can specify the username and password in the MediaWikiAdaptorPlugin tiddler.

Are you using a publically accessible mediawiki? If so, what is it?

Martin

2009/11/12 Raghu :
>
> Hello,
>
> I got a tiddlyspot wiki based on MPTW.
>
> I have a few mediawiki pages that I wanted to import, so I installed
> Martins "MediaWikiFormatterPlugin" and "MediaWikiAdaptorPlugin" and
> tried importing a page. But I get the following error :
>
> Error in importTiddlers.onGetWorkspaceList: Error parsing result from
> server: SyntaxError: syntax error
>
> One possibility this might be occurring is because the mediawiki needs
> authentication to view the pages. Anyway I can specify this in the
> plugin?
>
> Also, I tried the plug-in with a locally saved mediawiki file, but it
> still doesn't work. This is what I get :
>
> Error in importTiddlers.onGetWorkspaceList: Not Found
>
> Thanks
>
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>
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[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Great Tobias
Thanks for clearing things up..
I really want to see your script in action - as it has been a thing I
wished to be able to do for a long time and it seems to be able to do
more than my script does :
You also joined the thread where I got my script from Eric
http://tinyurl.com/yzj4kly In action http://tinyurl.com/yjhghpl

When I run your script I get "ReferenceError: items is not defined".
I haven't changed anything in the script (except for repairing googles
linebreaks)-
I even called the script "out" as proposed - and made a another
tiddler with a lineseparated list which gave me the reference error
when run <> -
then I changed the list to a lineseparated list with wikilinks [[]] -
same error -
and finally to a hr-separated list. Same error...

There's no error shown in the "out" tiddler (if it *should* be blank -
that is?) - it's only when I try to run it...

I will try to deliver a MTC - in about an hour - have to set it up
first...

However - if you see that I've made an obvious mistake (I often do -
even if I slow down...) - please reply

YS Måns Mårtensson



On 12 Nov., 15:11, Tobias Beer  wrote:
> Hi Mans,
>
> Your scripts doesn't work (here) for a number of reasons.
>
> 1) It doesn't output any tiddler text
> 2) it doesn't properly close the table on any number of hr-separated
> tiddlers that is not a multiple of 5
> 3) if it actually was to output tiddler text, it wouldn't work,
> because you would have to ensure that the tiddler-text wouldn't break
> the table syntax... so you might have to put < embedThisTidder>> into table cells
> 4) yet, using <> to embed its content wouldn't
> actually collate the tiddler contents as Morris was looking for
>
> Also...
> *you don't need hr's... simple linebreaks will do too, even a
> bracketed list
>
> I have been fiddling with your codebits to make something I would
> consider a workable solution:
>
> 
> var i,n,out='',tid,txt;
> if('$1'=='$'+'1')return;//no list, no output
> var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
> var cols=parseInt('$2');if(isNaN(cols))cols=5;//num cols as 2nd param
> n=(parseInt(items.length/cols)+1)*cols;//num cells as multiple of num
> cols
> for(i=0;i         if(i&&i%cols==0)out+="|\n";//new row
>         ti=items[i];//title
>         tid=store.getTiddler(ti);//tiddler
>         out+='|'+(tid?'<>':(ti?'!@@color:red; "'+ti+'"
> not found!@@':''));//add item to row}
>
> out+="|\n";//end last row
> return out;
> 
>
> Assuming script-tiddler is called 'out', you can call it via
> <>
>
> Where 3 would be the number of columns.
>
> Regards, Tobias.
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[tw] Pretty links to sections

2009-11-12 Thread Morris Gray

I thought for sure I saw something here about how to stop pretty
section links from being seen as external links.

[[PrettyLink|Section##Header]] = External link

Does anyone remember... the world;s greatest search engine can't find
anything ;-)

Morris

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[tw] Re: Killing TiddlyTagMindMap

2009-11-12 Thread rakugo

That was great.
There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
-
you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
{{['tag']}}'
and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
solved.
eg.  macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}"
Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:
http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html
That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!

Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
Jon

On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns  wrote:
> Hi Jon
>
> I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5
> In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
>
> My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> version...
>
> YS Måns mårtensson
>
> On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo  wrote:
>
> > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > are causing the recursion  it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > hopefully this is the same thing.
>
> > Jon
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[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Tobias Beer

Hi Morris & Mark,

If you also want the titles as headings in the output,
simply replace {{{append+=...}}} with this in the inner loop...

append+="!tids[t].title"+"\n"+store.getTiddlerText(tids[t].title)
+"\n";


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[tw] Re: Consolidate Tiddlers script needed

2009-11-12 Thread Tobias Beer

Hi Mans,

Your scripts doesn't work (here) for a number of reasons.

1) It doesn't output any tiddler text
2) it doesn't properly close the table on any number of hr-separated
tiddlers that is not a multiple of 5
3) if it actually was to output tiddler text, it wouldn't work,
because you would have to ensure that the tiddler-text wouldn't break
the table syntax... so you might have to put <> into table cells
4) yet, using <> to embed its content wouldn't
actually collate the tiddler contents as Morris was looking for

Also...
*you don't need hr's... simple linebreaks will do too, even a
bracketed list



I have been fiddling with your codebits to make something I would
consider a workable solution:


var i,n,out='',tid,txt;
if('$1'=='$'+'1')return;//no list, no output
var items=store.getTiddlerText('$1') .split('\n');//linebreaks will do
var cols=parseInt('$2');if(isNaN(cols))cols=5;//num cols as 2nd param
n=(parseInt(items.length/cols)+1)*cols;//num cells as multiple of num
cols
for(i=0;i>':(ti?'!@@color:red; "'+ti+'"
not found!@@':''));//add item to row
}
out+="|\n";//end last row
return out;



Assuming script-tiddler is called 'out', you can call it via
<>

Where 3 would be the number of columns.

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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hmmm I've not been able to find out how one nominates an app for
inclusion. I agree that TiddlyWiki's maturity makes it a reasonable
candidate for inclusion.

Cheers

Jerm

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AlanBCohen  wrote:
>
> And quite a few of us who already use both.  I find my TW files work
> quite well with the portable version of Firefox on the PortableApps
> site.
> Alan
>
> >
>



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[tw] Re: tiddlyspot/link ??

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

If you try to upload it with tiddlyspot controls you'll get an error
telling that status is unindentified
And a messagebox saying:
About to upload TiddlyWiki to http://link.tiddlyspot.com/index.html

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 12 Nov., 14:34, Måns  wrote:
> Hi TwWizards
>
> What is thishttp://tiddlyspot.com/link/index.html??
> You'll get an outdated (almost empty) TW if you add /link to any of
> your tiddlyspot sites..
> iehttp://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/link/
>
> Does it serve a purpose?
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] tiddlyspot/link ??

2009-11-12 Thread Måns

Hi TwWizards

What is this http://tiddlyspot.com/link/index.html ??
You'll get an outdated (almost empty) TW if you add /link to any of
your tiddlyspot sites..
ie http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/link/

Does it serve a purpose?

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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread AlanBCohen

And quite a few of us who already use both.  I find my TW files work
quite well with the portable version of Firefox on the PortableApps
site.
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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread Amzg

Hm, I don't see it listed in the "Applications list" there.
 http://portableapps.com/apps

Using their search feature I find an old request by someone to add it
to their suite, and a few references to it in their forum. The request
is a few years old and it says nothing about how "established" TW is
by now.

I'd contact them myself but I don't quite know that the GNU says on
this matter and I don't quite know what to say about the muscle power
behind TW. I imagine that they're a lot more interested if they know
something is backed up by X many programmers and that it has been
around for X years etc. And most of all, I'm not qute sure regarding
your or Osmosoft/BT's view on the matter.

To me it is obvious TW belongs in their suite.

Best


On Nov 12, 12:55 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> > TiddlyWiki would possibly do well by being included here;
>
> >http://portableapps.com/
>
> There's quite a few matches for TiddlyWiki on the site already, do we
> need to do something new to improve it's exposure?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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[tw] Re: Portableapps (att: Ruston)

2009-11-12 Thread Jeremy Ruston

> TiddlyWiki would possibly do well by being included here;
>
> http://portableapps.com/

There's quite a few matches for TiddlyWiki on the site already, do we
need to do something new to improve it's exposure?

Best wishes

Jeremy



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[tw] Re: Best solution for connecting TWs

2009-11-12 Thread Tobias Beer

I am not in the business of providing a working solution right now...
but here's what has been going through my mind every now and then...

I know that...
- frames can address each other via javascript
- you can embed complete tw's into one another via iframes

Provided that you are the 'admin' or 'author' of either and that both
documents sit on the same domain... shouldn't it be 'fairly simple'
to...
- access the contents across frames
- trigger js functions in the tw of the other frame
- like querying for search results and retrieving (!) results
- read AND write content from AND to the other tiddlywiki
- switch the embedded tiddlywiki into 'fullscreen' mode... pseudo-
hiding the outer one

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[tw] Re: Timeline/History with UserName?

2009-11-12 Thread Gibson

Great :)

Thanks everyone!

On Nov 10, 4:46 am, Morris Gray  wrote:
> You might like to try:
>
> out.push('*[['+t.title+']] '+t.modified.formatString('.0MM.0DD -
> DDD 0hh:0mm:0ss')+'');
>
> This will make it a bit more tidy.
>
>  Morris
>
> On Nov 9, 11:51 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Gibson
>
> > try:
> > out.push('*[['+t.title+']]'+t.modified+'');
>
> > regards Måns Mårtensson
>
> > On 9 Nov., 10:05, Gibson  wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > Thanks for that - it's great for getting the "who" part :)
>
> > > Can you tell me how I'd add the date at the side of the output line
> > > out.push('*[['+t.title+']]');  ?
>
> > > Thanks again,
> > > -G-
>
> > > On Nov 6, 8:27 pm, Måns  wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Gibson
>
> > > > Try
>
> > > > 
> > > >         var out=[]; var who='';
> > > >         var tids=store.getTiddlers('modifier');
> > > >         for (i=0; i > > >                 if (who!=t.modifier) {
> > > >                         who=t.modifier;
> > > >                         out.push('by '+who+':');
> > > >                 }
> > > >                 out.push('*[['+t.title+']]');
> > > >         }
> > > >         return out.join('\n');
> > > > 
>
> > > > Regards Måns Mårtensson
>
> > > > On 6 Nov., 16:13, Gibson  wrote:- Hide 
> > > > quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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