[tw] Re: SiteInfo and GettingStarted in TiddlySpace

2012-08-26 Thread PMario
If you use the default theme and didn't include othere spaces,
GettingStarted shouldn't be changed if you change SiteInfo tiddler.

Some spaces transclude the SiteInfo tiddler into the GettingStarted
like so tiddler SiteInfo, which is called a transclusion. This may
happen, but not with the default theme.

The Information isn't lost, it may be just hidden. ...

Can you point us to the space, so we can have a look?

-m

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[tw] Converting script to plugin

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Hi!

I made a script which outputs the result on a nested slider (1)
floating panel. I transcluded it into the toolbar, so I have a
pulldown menu. It works as it should. However, I want to include it
into a plugin I'm working on. So I removed the script tags and added
the systemConfig tag to see how it worked, but I got an error that
place was undefined.

I tracked the error to the following piece of code:
var here = story.findContainingTiddler(place);
if (here) {
var tid = store.getTiddler(here.getAttribute(tiddler));
}

Any idea what the problem is?

Also, because the script wasn't between the script tags, the tiddler
displayed the actual text of the script instead of the wikified
result. I'm using the wikify function. How do I output the wikified
result?

I posted the code on pastebin (2).

(1) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin
(2) http://pastebin.com/PZmLrQDV

w

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[tw] Re: Help with javascript new.window

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Hi!

Are you using a server-side solution for your setup (TiddlyWeb,
TiddlySpace...) or a normal TW on a net-share? I tried getting
BookmarksPlugin (1) to work with TiddlyWeb, but I couldn't quite make
it work (2).

(1) http://bookmarksplugin.tiddlyspace.com/
(2) 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/342ded74e628a5c4/3f274e1edbb1fc9b

w

On Aug 24, 9:20 pm, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am a great fan of TiddlySnip, but have difficulties in having it store my
 favoriites to an on-line TW (in principle this is possible using
 UploadPlugin recently that cant be done from a local TW to an onçine
 TW). So, I have started playing with an alternative. What I have to date is
 a bit o javascript in a bookmerklet that passes the selected url and title
 to a TW on my server.so far so good. Its working and storing my
 references on-line

 My code is siimply -
 javaascript:var%20address=location.href;var%20title=document.title;window.open('http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[['+address+']]%20txtTitle:[['+title+']]','','width=300,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes');

 The only problem is that when I hit the bookmarklet from a selected
 page. a new window opensAND the selected page goes blanck and gives
 the message [object Window].after confirming the save in the new
 windowI can backup to the original page but thats rather
 annoying. Why is this code opening a new window AND passing this message to
 the open page...and how to stop this happening?

 Thanks in advance
 Skye

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[tw] Re: Help with javascript new.window

2012-08-26 Thread skye riquelme
Hi All

Actually I finally resolved my problem.. the bookmarklet code now reads 
- 

javascript:void(window.open('http://mydomain/bookmarking/en.html#txtFonte:[['+location.href+']]%20txtTitle:[['+document.title+']]%20txtDominio:[['+window.location.hostname+']]
  
%20txtCitado:[['+window.getSelection()+']]','','width=400,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes'));
 


Note that the javascript starts with void(...)...seems that makes all 
the difference

The target of this script is a very simple TW sitting on my server. The TW 
is armed with UploadPlugin and UploadTiddlerPlugin (and therefor 
PasswordPlugin as well) from BidiXTW works greatfor me!!

Thanks
Skye

Em domingo, 26 de agosto de 2012 16h22min24s UTC-3, whatever escreveu:

 Hi! 

 Are you using a server-side solution for your setup (TiddlyWeb, 
 TiddlySpace...) or a normal TW on a net-share? I tried getting 
 BookmarksPlugin (1) to work with TiddlyWeb, but I couldn't quite make 
 it work (2). 

 (1) http://bookmarksplugin.tiddlyspace.com/ 
 (2) 
 http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/342ded74e628a5c4/3f274e1edbb1fc9b
  

 w 

 On Aug 24, 9:20 pm, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hi All, 
  
  I am a great fan of TiddlySnip, but have difficulties in having it store 
 my 
  favoriites to an on-line TW (in principle this is possible using 
  UploadPlugin recently that cant be done from a local TW to an onçine 
  TW). So, I have started playing with an alternative. What I have to date 
 is 
  a bit o javascript in a bookmerklet that passes the selected url and 
 title 
  to a TW on my server.so far so good. Its working and storing my 
  references on-line 
  
  My code is siimply - 
  
 javaascript:var%20address=location.href;var%20title=document.title;window.open('
 http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[['+address+']]%20txtTitle:[['+title+']]http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[[%27+address+%27]]%20txtTitle:[[%27+title+%27]]','','width=300,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes');
  

  
  The only problem is that when I hit the bookmarklet from a selected 
  page. a new window opensAND the selected page goes blanck and 
 gives 
  the message [object Window].after confirming the save in the new 
  windowI can backup to the original page but thats rather 
  annoying. Why is this code opening a new window AND passing this message 
 to 
  the open page...and how to stop this happening? 
  
  Thanks in advance 
  Skye 


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[tw] Re: SiteInfo and GettingStarted in TiddlySpace

2012-08-26 Thread Handoko Suwono
Still can't find the missing content. My space is astroiseur @tiddlyspace 
and I did include tiddlyace. Am still exploring how it will affect my space.

Handoko -

On Sunday, August 26, 2012 4:43:45 PM UTC+7, PMario wrote:

 If you use the default theme and didn't include othere spaces, 
 GettingStarted shouldn't be changed if you change SiteInfo tiddler. 

 Some spaces transclude the SiteInfo tiddler into the GettingStarted 
 like so tiddler SiteInfo, which is called a transclusion. This may 
 happen, but not with the default theme. 

 The Information isn't lost, it may be just hidden. ... 

 Can you point us to the space, so we can have a look? 

 -m 



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Re: [tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-08-26 Thread Vincent Yeh


On Friday, August 24, 2012 7:06:46 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:

   Hmmm...I thought a cell starting with an equal sign (=) still gets 
 auto-updated if there are cell references in its expression. Is it not 
 working that way? Or you are talking about some other cases?

 Thought exactly the same, but a equal sign with a letter only shows 'Err: 
 ReferenceError: A is not defined', with a letter it does show the number 
 after the equal sign but doesn't change with row changes. 

 If you start a cell with an equal sign =, then TableCalculator assumes an 
expression in that cell and extracts cell contents if cell references are 
included, then evaluates it through user-defined functions or Javascript. 
If the case you mentioned, a cell containing =A, that letter A is not 
immediately followed by a number, so its not considered as a cell 
reference, and the A is not a user-defined function, so the TableCalculator 
passes it to Javascript for evaluation. But this A is most likely not 
defined in your (or any other's) Javascript session, therefore the 'A is 
not defined' error message is returned.

I am guessing your =A means 'copy the whole column A to this column', but 
this syntax is not supported in the current TableCalculator. It seems 
possible to support such a syntax though...I am not sure yet...
 


 In the same vain I would actually remove the 'S'ave button, since it 
 anyway only replicates the saveChanges button accessible with every 
 editable TW. On the other hand  I already added the 'done' button to the 
 tiddler view toolbar, because this way it is possible to use TableEditor 
 together with Eric's UndoPlugin.

 That is great! I have been wondering how to work with the UndoPlugin! 
 Can you tell me how to do it? 


 At the moment UndoPlugin doesn't recognizes a change to a table cell if 
 TableEditor's auto save isn't enabled. It only recognizes once the 'done' 
 (e.g. the button used in edit mode for saving changes to a tiddler and 
 immediately switching to view mode) is used. This button can by copied from 
 the editbar to the viewbar slice in the ToolbarCommands shadowed tiddler, 
 so that this 'done' button appears in the toolbar of a tiddler in view mode 
 too. And therefore can be used to save a tiddler after a couple cells 
 changed - which now is recognized by UndoPlugin and enabled to revert the 
 table tiddler to its state before the 'done' button was used. 

 Since with each 'done' the tiddler refreshes and, with large tables. jumps 
 to the top of the tiddler (in my case  where I display tiddler's content 
 with a scrollbar and so keep the tiddler header always visible and 
 accessible at the top), I use it only after a couple of cells changed, 
 because of the disruption of the jump caused by saving a tiddler.
  

I've figured a way to work with the UndoPlugin without adding the 'done' 
button to the toolbar in view mode. 


 I also think there are too many buttons around the table and should figure 
 a way to rearrange them. It sounds like a good idea to replace the delete 
 button with a cut button, but I don't quite understand what upon a cut 
 would be changed into a paste means. What I am thinking is something that 
 is invisible most of the time and visible when the mouse is over a certain 
 place (the corner of a table, for example), just like the pull-down menus 
 that we already see in a lot of pages.

 I thought of changing the 'x' of the delete button to a 'c' with the 
 addition of the 'cutting' ability to this button, - And which upon an 
 actual cutting of a column would change the 'c' into a 'p' for pasting in 
 this button available below every column. Which would bring the limitation 
 that actually only one column could be deleted/cutted at a time (since all 
 'c' button change to 'p' after having it used for a cut). Therefore agree 
 that popup menus visible upon hovering would be really a better way.


  Regards.


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Re: [tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-08-26 Thread Vincent Yeh

wolfgang,

On Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:25:50 AM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:


 I also think there are too many buttons around the table and should figure 
 a way to rearrange them. It sounds like a good idea to replace the delete 
 button with a cut button, but I don't quite understand what upon a cut 
 would be changed into a paste means. What I am thinking is something that 
 is invisible most of the time and visible when the mouse is over a certain 
 place (the corner of a table, for example), just like the pull-down menus 
 that we already see in a lot of pages.

 I thought of changing the 'x' of the delete button to a 'c' with the 
 addition of the 'cutting' ability to this button, - And which upon an 
 actual cutting of a column would change the 'c' into a 'p' for pasting in 
 this button available below every column. Which would bring the limitation 
 that actually only one column could be deleted/cutted at a time (since all 
 'c' button change to 'p' after having it used for a cut). Therefore agree 
 that popup menus visible upon hovering would be really a better way.

 After working a bid more with TableEdtor I actually don't think the 
 ability to cut and paste columns that much of a priority anymore. Though 
 this really is one of the hardest things to do with TW table syntax, With 
 TableEditor its actually not such a feast to accomplish anymore..-  If the 
 need arises - then the cell contents can always be cut and pasted 
 individually fairly easily and quickly too now. Also concerning how rare 
 such a need really is.. ..and for not to bloat TableEditor unnecessarily 
 with abilities not that often needed.

 Sounds reasonable. Will think about it. Thanks a lot.
 

 But what still is disrupting the workflow are the 'jump-ups' with a 
 refresh of long table tiddlers after each row/column added/deleted. Though 
 gladly this doesn't happen with every cell edited, but for example whenever 
 cells are joined too (ie: after entering a '~' in a cell).

 Upon insertion/deletion of rows/columns, or joining cells by '~' and '', 
the TableEditor calls the story.refreshTiddler() to let the formatters do 
their jobs. The 'jump-ups' is probably caused somewhere in that function. 
Unfortunately this does not happen in all the browsers I tested here (with 
your large table and Eric's UndoPlugin 0.2.1): Chrome/Ubuntu 12.04, FF 
14.0.1/Ubuntu 12.04, FF14.0.1/Win7, Chrome/win7, IE9/Win7, Safari/Win7. I 
guess the TableEditor is interfering with some of the plugins you are using 
and I am not. If you can find it then I can try to fix it.
 

 Regards.


Cheers,

Vincent 

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Re: [tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-08-26 Thread Vincent Yeh

TableEditor 1.2.10 http://qmowcy2.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor

   - Works with UndoPlugin 0.2.1 by Eric Shulman.
  - Changes made to each cell are now undoable through UndoPlugin.
  - But this can generate a long undo history after changing many 
  cells. Not sure if it's going to cause any trouble...
  - Added visual feedback on the 'S'/'U' button while in manual 
   save/upload mode.
  - The 'S'/'U' button is active only when save/upload is needed.
  
Vincent

On Friday, August 24, 2012 7:06:46 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:

   Hmmm...I thought a cell starting with an equal sign (=) still gets 
 auto-updated if there are cell references in its expression. Is it not 
 working that way? Or you are talking about some other cases?

 Thought exactly the same, but a equal sign with a letter only shows 'Err: 
 ReferenceError: A is not defined', with a letter it does show the number 
 after the equal sign but doesn't change with row changes. 


 In the same vain I would actually remove the 'S'ave button, since it 
 anyway only replicates the saveChanges button accessible with every 
 editable TW. On the other hand  I already added the 'done' button to the 
 tiddler view toolbar, because this way it is possible to use TableEditor 
 together with Eric's UndoPlugin.

 That is great! I have been wondering how to work with the UndoPlugin! 
 Can you tell me how to do it? 


 At the moment UndoPlugin doesn't recognizes a change to a table cell if 
 TableEditor's auto save isn't enabled. It only recognizes once the 'done' 
 (e.g. the button used in edit mode for saving changes to a tiddler and 
 immediately switching to view mode) is used. This button can by copied from 
 the editbar to the viewbar slice in the ToolbarCommands shadowed tiddler, 
 so that this 'done' button appears in the toolbar of a tiddler in view mode 
 too. And therefore can be used to save a tiddler after a couple cells 
 changed - which now is recognized by UndoPlugin and enabled to revert the 
 table tiddler to its state before the 'done' button was used. 

 Since with each 'done' the tiddler refreshes and, with large tables. jumps 
 to the top of the tiddler (in my case  where I display tiddler's content 
 with a scrollbar and so keep the tiddler header always visible and 
 accessible at the top), I use it only after a couple of cells changed, 
 because of the disruption of the jump caused by saving a tiddler.
  

 I also think there are too many buttons around the table and should figure 
 a way to rearrange them. It sounds like a good idea to replace the delete 
 button with a cut button, but I don't quite understand what upon a cut 
 would be changed into a paste means. What I am thinking is something that 
 is invisible most of the time and visible when the mouse is over a certain 
 place (the corner of a table, for example), just like the pull-down menus 
 that we already see in a lot of pages.

 I thought of changing the 'x' of the delete button to a 'c' with the 
 addition of the 'cutting' ability to this button, - And which upon an 
 actual cutting of a column would change the 'c' into a 'p' for pasting in 
 this button available below every column. Which would bring the limitation 
 that actually only one column could be deleted/cutted at a time (since all 
 'c' button change to 'p' after having it used for a cut). Therefore agree 
 that popup menus visible upon hovering would be really a better way.


  Regards.


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[tw] Re: Help with javascript new.window

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Can you describe your solution in more detail? Perhaps share the
setup? I think this will be interesting to many people.

w

On Aug 26, 10:43 pm, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All

 Actually I finally resolved my problem.. the bookmarklet code now reads
 -

 javascript:void(window.open('http://mydomain/bookmarking/en.html#txtFonte:[['+location.href+']]%20txtTitle:[['+document.title+']]%20txtDominio:[['+window.location.hostname+']]
 %20txtCitado:[['+window.getSelection()+']]','','width=400,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes'));

 Note that the javascript starts with void(...)...seems that makes all
 the difference

 The target of this script is a very simple TW sitting on my server. The TW
 is armed with UploadPlugin and UploadTiddlerPlugin (and therefor
 PasswordPlugin as well) from BidiXTW works greatfor me!!

 Thanks
 Skye

 Em domingo, 26 de agosto de 2012 16h22min24s UTC-3, whatever escreveu:









  Hi!

  Are you using a server-side solution for your setup (TiddlyWeb,
  TiddlySpace...) or a normal TW on a net-share? I tried getting
  BookmarksPlugin (1) to work with TiddlyWeb, but I couldn't quite make
  it work (2).

  (1)http://bookmarksplugin.tiddlyspace.com/
  (2)
 http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/342ded...

  w

  On Aug 24, 9:20 pm, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi All,

   I am a great fan of TiddlySnip, but have difficulties in having it store
  my
   favoriites to an on-line TW (in principle this is possible using
   UploadPlugin recently that cant be done from a local TW to an onçine
   TW). So, I have started playing with an alternative. What I have to date
  is
   a bit o javascript in a bookmerklet that passes the selected url and
  title
   to a TW on my server.so far so good. Its working and storing my
   references on-line

   My code is siimply -

  javaascript:var%20address=location.href;var%20title=document.title;window.open('
 http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[['+address+']]%20txtTitle:[['+title+']]http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[[%27+address+%27]]%20txtTitle:[[%27+title+%27]]','','width=300,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes');

   The only problem is that when I hit the bookmarklet from a selected
   page. a new window opensAND the selected page goes blanck and
  gives
   the message [object Window].after confirming the save in the new
   windowI can backup to the original page but thats rather
   annoying. Why is this code opening a new window AND passing this message
  to
   the open page...and how to stop this happening?

   Thanks in advance
   Skye

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[tw] Re: Converting script to plugin

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Hi!
I figured out the solution to the second problem and it solved the
first problem as well. Seems all I had to do was put the code inside a
macro.

I am curious though, why did the story.findContainingTiddler(place);
throw an error? Also, I noticed that sometimes, it is used as
story.findContainingTiddler(this);. Can someone explain the reason?

w

On Aug 26, 7:13 pm, whatever kbrezov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 I made a script which outputs the result on a nested slider (1)
 floating panel. I transcluded it into the toolbar, so I have a
 pulldown menu. It works as it should. However, I want to include it
 into a plugin I'm working on. So I removed the script tags and added
 the systemConfig tag to see how it worked, but I got an error that
 place was undefined.

 I tracked the error to the following piece of code:
 var here = story.findContainingTiddler(place);
 if (here) {
 var tid = store.getTiddler(here.getAttribute(tiddler));

 }

 Any idea what the problem is?

 Also, because the script wasn't between the script tags, the tiddler
 displayed the actual text of the script instead of the wikified
 result. I'm using the wikify function. How do I output the wikified
 result?

 I posted the code on pastebin (2).

 (1)http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin
 (2)http://pastebin.com/PZmLrQDV

 w

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