[tw] Re: LessBackupsPlugin
On Jan 2, 4:58 am, Daniel Baird danielba...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be possible, to rewrite the plugin, to use TiddlyFox and the core save mechanism. But I didn't have a closer look. LessBackups uses a first-backup-in-each-period method that avoids ever deleting files, and also avoids having to always save multiple copies, that first occurred to me in the last-ish paragraph here:https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ARBheDSfpog/p3qyDAz_ETEJ Hi Daniel, Nice to see, that you are still around. I'm having a closer look now ;) So you used the (now depricated) file access methodes only, to get the lastModifiedTime, to calculate the expiry variable. I'm pretty sure it could work without checking save dates (by recording the last saved period in a tiddler) so in theory it could use only the core save stuff and still work. IMO nope, if lastModified dates are stored in a tiddler you run into synchronisation / consistency problems. It will be very hard to do it right (eg: copy a file from one computer to an other one, where the tiddler is invalid). I think a backups system needs to be reliable. So for me the solution is, to convince Jeremy, to implement a LessBackup(ish) algorithm. Without the whole file stuff, it seems to be pretty simple. The only thing to do, would be a nice TiddlyFox config page to enable / disable it. @jeremy IMO A TiddlyFox config page is needed anyway ;) -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: LessBackupsPlugin
On Jan 2, 2:56 pm, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: So for me the solution is, to convince Jeremy, to implement a LessBackup(ish) algorithm. uups, backups are done be TW core. This was a bad idea :/ so more thinking is needed. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: What does TiddlySpace DO for me? What do I INTEND for it to do?
Hello Dickon ( others): Poking around, trying to decide how to organize my work, coming off the holiday break, I came across this post, and figured it was as good a place as any other to sort out the things I need to do, and things I'd like do to, in the new year. So here goes with some answers (with the familiar lament that Tiddlyspace remains hard to figure out how to do things like answer questionnaires in a social space, so rather than try to figure out the reply to tiddler thing that continues to baffle me, I decided to sketch out answers inline below): On Thursday, December 6, 2012 7:29:27 PM UTC-5, dickon wrote: This is a set of questions prompted by Chris Dent. - I am non-technical, so please don't scare me with unique features of TS coding... I am a TS user rather than a developer (see http://tiddlymanuals.tiddlyspace.com or http://dickon.tiddlyspace.com) - I am really interested in the *FUNCTIONS* of Tiddlyspace, what it CAN be used for, or how it MIGHT be used (given a bit more tweaking) - I am asking readers of this post to allow themselves to muse a little - I am struck by the fruitful diversity in the TS community, its content, and its ideas about what this is or should become... but also the risk that TS becomes a kind of 'developmental catherine wheel', sparks flying in all directions, but not going anywhere... *1. What do you think TiddlySpace DOES for you, that other corners of the webiverse haven't yet done...? * What is distinctive about TS? How are you using it? Why are you/would you use it, rather than some other web solution? For me, what is distinctive about tiddlywiki (not so much tiddlyspace), and what keeps me coming back to it year after year, is the ability to write hypertextually, using the full complement of hypertextual features including linking, tagging and transcluding. Every time I start to write something -- for a class, for a project, whatever -- in some non-tiddly platform, I find myself constantly reaching for the tagging toolkit, or wanting to create the potential for a FutureTiddler by simply using CamelCase; or wanting to reference through transclusion a bit of text I've already created. Secondly, beyond the writing, is the knowledge that by writing hypertextually I will create the opportunity for my readers (mostly, but not exclusively, my students) to read hypertextually -- so that they are not stuck with reading in a linear way that which has been written for them. Again, that requires the platform with full range of hypertextual functions. Every other web solution that I've come across is limited, mostly to just links, or a very limited implementation of tagging (such as wordpress). *2. Why are people working so hard at building this - what drives them...? * Clarify if you are a developer/programmer or a lay user. First, I'm a lay user, not a developer. That said, I'll dabble in code as necessary, usually frustrating myself because I simply don't have the background to write the code. And I am way far from a developer. So I'm a lay user, with enough programming ability to waste a lot of my time not getting too far :) What drives me is an increasing belief that we have relatively little understanding of what is necessary to read and write hypertextually for maximum effectiveness. From a reading perspective, I don't understand how individuals navigate an increasingly complex terrain involving links, tags and transclusions. From a writing perspective, I don't understand how to construct texts so that readers can navigate this complex terrain. And when those activities (reading writing) happen in the same space at the same time (as in taking notes, annotating, etc.) I know even less. So this lack of understanding becomes interesting, and in my experience, tiddlyspace provides one of the best platforms for exploring and analyzing questions in this vein. So what drives me is the opportunity to use tiddlyspace as a way of increasing my understanding of reading and writing hypertextually. *3. If the community of users and developers of TiddlySpace could be said to share a vision about WHAT IS BEING CREATED here, could you summarise this?* Alongside your answer, can you please rate (0 - 5) how actively involved are you in the technical development of TiddlySpace. I couldn't begin to answer this question. To be honest, my uses of tiddlyspace has usually been reduced to an instrumental situation: set a goal of using tiddlyspace to accomplish a task, and then focus on that task, without opportunity for reflection on what tiddlyspace is or what is being created. I am grateful for the community and its ability and willingness to help solve problems, but have not been actively involved at all in the development of tiddlyspace. Perhaps I make some small contributions by trying to do different things and
Re: [tw] Re: LessBackupsPlugin in Firefox 17
m, okay, thanks for the info! -Andy On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 5:52 AM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andy, All browser vendors did strengthen there security restrictions. LessBackupsPlugin used a method, that was removed with FF17+ which causes the behaviour you noticed. There is no fix atm. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Richard Niolon wrote: TWMobile in the app store will run a tiddlywiki just fine, and let you save it to dropbox. The current release (2.2) has a problem but the author has a temporary fix while apple reviews 2.3... Thanks, Richard. Do you have any idea whether I could load my configuration onto it? -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Cannot edit or delete a few tiddlers
I am still using MGSD, and never did figure out how to delete the ghost tiddlers. Everything else is working OK, so I'm just muddling through. But I would welcome help on deleting ghost tiddlers. Rafael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/gKH3e5Xh8_cJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
What's your configuration? I've run several tiddlywikis with it - one I used for my course website with my notes and all for each week, one that hold all my tasks and projects, and one I use to take notes about my advisees with. I used to back it up to tiddlyspot without a problem, but like dropbox now. The only plugin I've had a problem with is EasyEdit, but I think that could be an ipad issue. Reminder plugins, calendar ones, foreachtiddler, Udo's search plugin... even Eric's plugin that lets you embed pictures (of my advisees) in the tiddlywiki all work fine in twmobile. Rich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/FazpGGL119oJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] TW on iPad
Rich, Eric, Just picking up on the dialog here. Thanks Rich. TWEdit and TWMobile are at version 2.2.3 - and the referenced 2.2.2 problem was fixed with that release. I recommend TWEdit over TWMobile as TWEdit runs on both iPad and iPhone (the original iPad only app was called TWMobile but someone snagged that name in App Store before I got the iPhone version out - and so I had to create TWEdit as the app for both platforms - they run the same code base and I keep TWMobile going really only for those folks who bought it ahead of TWEdit). Version 2.3 is in test with a new file manager and full file system sync to dropbox, plus one or two other bits and pieces. Will get that out the door soon - or as soon as I feel 100% comfortable with it. Hope this helps - Chris. On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 8:54:59 PM UTC-7, Richard Niolon wrote: What's your configuration? I've run several tiddlywikis with it - one I used for my course website with my notes and all for each week, one that hold all my tasks and projects, and one I use to take notes about my advisees with. I used to back it up to tiddlyspot without a problem, but like dropbox now. The only plugin I've had a problem with is EasyEdit, but I think that could be an ipad issue. Reminder plugins, calendar ones, foreachtiddler, Udo's search plugin... even Eric's plugin that lets you embed pictures (of my advisees) in the tiddlywiki all work fine in twmobile. Rich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/tRo_aRwbqDgJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Dear All, It's been a while since last update. I had been, and still will be, busy on a big event here at the end of this month. Yet I managed to find time over the long weekend to do some works on the plugins. The alpha-3 file is available at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release-1.5.0-alpha-3%2B0.7.7.html. Comments/Suggestions/Bug reports are always welcome! I plan to release 1.5.0 on Feb 08, one day before the Chinese New Year's Eve. In this coming version most of the block elements -- tables, lists, headers, foldable contents (with FoldHeadingsPlugin), preformats, blockquotes, and blockexamples -- shall be editable. The name of the TWtable plugin shall be changed to TWtid (TW tiddler) in accordance with the feature expansion. TWted retains its name with a different meaning -- *tiddler editor* instead of table editor. Main changes in alpha-3 are 1. Move list items with Ctrl-up/down keys. 1. Still primitive, please find bugs and tell me about them. 2. Moving elements is complicated with the current code structure. I plan to rewrite some parts of the codes to make it simpler. 2. Added option chkTWtedInViewMode (default to true) to toggle editing manner. - If set to true (the default), one can edit those editable elements in TW's view mode while keeping the default edit box in edit mode the same old way. - Otherwise the view mode remains just for viewing, and TW's default edit box is replaced with a WYSIWYG-like editor. - In this manner one can still bring back the default edit box by one of the following ways, - disable TWtable or TWted (re-enable to enter the WYSIWYG-like mode again), - double-click in a no-element area (click away/Ctrl-Enter/Esc to go back to WYSIWYG-like mode). 3. Bug fixes for partial transclusion synchronization. 4. Bug fixes for locating a missing cell. Have fun! Vincent On Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:17:49 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote: Thanks for the feedback, Ton and Yakov, I will take them into consideration for sure. I'll be busy and won't be doing much on these plugins for several weeks, we'll talk later. Vincent On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:32:46 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I played around with your latest prelease and can see future possibilities. On the other hand it would be nice to just have a no frills table editor. Table editing was always very difficult in TW and is now a pleasure with your plugin(s). I'am using the (stable) version 1.4.6 daily and there I only miss the keyboard navigation you already implemented in prereleases. A (stable) 1.4.x release with added keyboard navigation would be much appreciated. I second Yakov's remarks about the Edit mode in the prerelease: do not combine general editing with table/headings/list editing. As Yakov already stated: there is no fallback anymore (at the moment you cannot even edit body text). Cheers, Ton On Dec 11, 12:21 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello :) Good timing! Indeed! Well, during development I noticed that clicking a link can trigger two actions: opening the link and the edit box, due to event bubbling. But I didn't like it that way so I introduced the option to restrict it to one action, either opening the link or opening the edit box. Now I know that two actions can be expected in some cases, I will figure a way to put it back. No-no-no, two actions were expected but they are not desired, so everything is fine. I just want to be sure that there wouldn't be two actions in some untested situations, that's what I was talking about. But as I understand, you basically stop bubbling the onclick event, so that shouldn't happen anyway, right? The new alpha looks good, but I have one important question: why did you move inline editing into the edit mode? On the one hand, inline editing has this nice feature that one doesn't need to scroll up to the menu -- well, double-click now makes editor open right in place, but to close edit mode one has to scroll up and click done/cancel; on the other hand, with usual edit mode, one has a usual fallback to edit what is unsupported for now. I think * the ordinary edit mode shouldn't be hijacked, but rather two options should remain * there should be an option to be permanently in the inline edit mode, like it was implemented before Best regards, Yakov. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/CK-hs3Gjf0sJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
