[tw] Re: Flurry of TW5 Questions

2013-02-26 Thread cdent


On Feb 26, 7:50 am, Helge h3l93.ph1l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seconded. I like MD, especially MultiMarkDown, which adds support for
 tables and footnotes.

Just for reference, and not entirely germane but maybe interesting,
TiddlySpace just got support for footnotes in the markdown that it
supports: http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/20130224

Note that markdown support in TiddlySpace works in the single-tiddler
HTML representation (what you see in that link) not in the TiddlyWiki
classic representation[1]. One the main goals or features of
TiddlySpace is to get the tiddler concept out on to the web as first
class citizens. In a sense a tiddler becomes just another web page,
but it is an augmented and compose-able web page.

[1] It ought to be possible to make a plugin for tiddlywiki that would
handle Markdown as well, presumably using the showdown javascript tool.

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[tw] Re: Tabs tutorial - Basics and more advanced usage...

2013-02-26 Thread Yakov
Hi Mans,

воскресенье, 24 февраля 2013 г., 23:42:16 UTC+4 пользователь Måns написал:

 H Yakov 

 I find it somewhat excessively narrowed in some aspects. 

 Thanks - I appreciate you guidance very much. 

 I made some changes following your advice. 

 I will need some(much) more time (and practice I guess) if I should 
 make references and comments to the javascript code - as I haven't got 
 a clue of what I'm doing ;-) 

 Everything in my writeup are tidbits of information, collected from 
 different threads on this group - or from TiddlyWiki.com. 

 What I also meant is linking some text about options and paramifiers in 
general, but I'v searched tiddlywiki.org (where Tobias has done some 
marvellous work recently, check it out) and tiddlywiki.com and found all 
the articles not suitable for linking.. I'll see what I can do, probably 
the [1] article should be extended so that it will be suitable for 
reference in your article as well.

When I write it down like this, it's because it helps me embrace all 
 needed information for being able to create links (ULs or wikilinks) 
 which point to an open tab in a tiddler - and it allows me to follow a 
 line of thought which leads to solutions - and more effective/ 
 practical use of what's available atm.., not having to search 
 through many more or less related topics on these threads each time I 
 want to do this... 

 If someone else can use it for their own bag of tricks - that would 
 be fine. 

 I'm very aware that what I've written is *not* a tutorial in 
 javascript - however I would love so see one, which covered same 
 topic, in a language that made someone like me, understand what's 
 going on. 

 Well, what can I add here..

story.displayTiddler is a function used to display tiddler (it is defined 
in the story.js [2] which is used to manipulate DOM inside tiddlerDisplay 
area as well as to switch themes and templates). It has many arguments 
among which the first defines the place where to display the tiddler (for 
instance, if you put this in your script, the button will open the 
tiddler after the one containing the button; if you put the 'top' or the 
'bottom' line there, the tiddler will be opened on the top or in the bottom 
of the tiddlerDisplay area).

The second argument is the tiddler title, that's clear. The third is the 
tiddler template. If you want to open a tiddler in the edit mode, you may 
use

story.displayTiddler(this,title,story.chooseTemplateForTiddler(title,DEFAULT_EDIT_TEMPLATE));

which I do with some of my translusions on a mobile device. I guess, what 
story.chooseTemplateForTiddler does is clear. There are many more 
parameters in story.displayTiddler and also story.displayTiddlers function 
in story.js.

I'm not sure why jQuery('#tiddlerDisplay').show(); is in your script, it 
works without it (and is not used in the next one).

I'll explain the next one in comments

htmla href='javascript:;' onclick='
  config.options.txtTabID=TabTitle;// set an option to use 
the desirable tab 
  story.displayTiddler(story.findContainingTiddler(this),TiddlerTitle);   
 // open the tiddler
  story.refreshTiddler(TiddlerTitle,null,true);// refresh the tiddler 
-- this is for the case the tiddler was opened before the link was clicked, 
to change the tab I guess
'LinkText/a/html

I'd also recommend to add a link to [3] when you talk about transclusions 
which is more important then suppressing formatting here :)

Best regards,
Yakov. 

[1] http://tiddlywiki.org/#Options 
[2] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/Story.js
[3] http://tiddlywiki.org/#Transclusion

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[tw] Not TW but really cool layout

2013-02-26 Thread Mat
Not TW, but some food for thought (food for theme?).  I thought this design 
was really cool and intuitive and imagine it would work in TW (particularly 
after seeing Mr.Rustons (his?) layout features for TW5). 

http://daniel-libeskind.com/

A filter in the top field/menu and, below it, a prominent horisontal scroll 
displaying miniatures of the resulting 'tiddlers' under(!) a top field or 
menu. Clicking a 'tiddler' expands it in the center. Obviously, text based 
tiddlers would not be as pretty as pictures but still interesting me thinks.

:-)

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[tw] Re: Tabs tutorial - Basics and more advanced usage...

2013-02-26 Thread Måns
Hi Yakov

I appreciate you explanations very much!! :-D

I've added Yakov's comments to the document.

I guess it would be very good practice ALWAYS to comment and explain
scripts and codes in one's documents to be able to learn more.

I've NEVER been very structured - however fiddling with TiddlyWiki,
learning a little css, using macro calls and a few scripts (here, and
there) - and creating lots, and lots of TiddlyWIki documents for all
kinds of purposes .. has shown me that stuff I considered to be WAY
over my head, just a couple of years ago, is almost within reach now!
It makes more and more sense when reading the source of available
plugins - and one's respect for those who create(d) this magic (the
TwWizards) grows with the insight...

Nice to be here ;-)


Thanks again !!

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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Re: [tw] Not TW but really cool layout

2013-02-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Mat, that's a good bit of inspiration.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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On 26 Feb 2013, at 17:49, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

Not TW, but some food for thought (food for theme?).  I thought this design
was really cool and intuitive and imagine it would work in TW (particularly
after seeing Mr.Rustons (his?) layout features for TW5).

http://daniel-libeskind.com/

A filter in the top field/menu and, below it, a prominent horisontal scroll
displaying miniatures of the resulting 'tiddlers' under(!) a top field or
menu. Clicking a 'tiddler' expands it in the center. Obviously, text based
tiddlers would not be as pretty as pictures but still interesting me thinks.

:-)

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Re: [tw] IE10 and Code View

2013-02-26 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias

Good catch, thank you very much for that. I'll explore a proper fix as soon
as I can,

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Sunday, 24 February 2013, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Ho again Scott,

 The problematic code seems to be this...

 enclosedTextHelper: function(w) {
 this.lookaheadRegExp.lastIndex = w.matchStart;
 var lookaheadMatch = this.lookaheadRegExp.exec(w.source);
 if(lookaheadMatch  lookaheadMatch.index == w.matchStart) {
 var text = lookaheadMatch[1];
 * if(config.browser.isIE)*
 * text = text.replace(/\n/g,\r);*
 createTiddlyElement(w.output,this.element,null,null,text);
 w.nextMatch = lookaheadMatch.index + lookaheadMatch[0].length;
 }
 }

 If you remove conditional above in bold, all works well in IE10. So it
 seems no longer be valid for IE10+ and should have a version conditional
 arround it with respect to config.browser.ieVersion being = 10... assuming
 it had been assessed correctly to begin with.

 Cheers, Tobias.



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[tw] Re: INTRO: TiddlyWeb at Home

2013-02-26 Thread Måns
Hi Mario

GREAT STUFF :-D

Have to digg this soon as possible :-)

Thanks for sharing your work!

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Ps: If you think you're crazy - don't think that you're the only
one ;-)


On 26 Feb., 22:37, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 There have been a lot of discussions about saving TiddlyWiki lately
 [1]. It seems browser vendors shut down our beloved file TWs.

 One work around is, to use old, insecure, unsupported browsers. I
 personally hate this workaround. I want to use the latest and greates
 browsers.

 An other way would be to create native programms which need to support
 different operating systems and may end up, as writing your own
 browser :/

 * I want to store my stuff in files.
 * I want to use a trusted system!
 * I want to have it all!
 * I want to use it now!

 That's why I created the TiddlyWeb at Home project [3].

 As the name says, everyone should be able to use it at home. It should
 store my ideas in files. It needs to be reliable. It needs to be easy
 to backup. It needs to work out of the box ...

 but ...

 It should scale. It should be like TiddlySpace [7][8], if it needs to
 be. It's based on TiddlyWeb [10].

 ---

 The main part of the project are Step-by-Step HowTo's plus working
 proof of concepts. Learn more about the story at tweb-at-home [3]

 Everything started, with a menu driven installation script (beta) for
 Raspberry Pi owners. If you don't own one, no problem __read on__!

 The setup should be the same or similar with many systems. I did
 _test_ the workflow / HowTo's with the following systems:

 _Bootable LiveCD_
   that runs a TiddlyWeb instance out of the box and lets you install a
 working environment. see the videos [11] I'm really proud about this
 possibility:)

 _Raspberry Pi_
   with raspbian OS [5], which is a Debian based Linux distribution
 running on a low cost, low power computer. see the review about the
 menu driven configuration. [2]

 VirtualBox image (LiveCD)
   tested with Windows7
   tested with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with

 SliTaz OS [6]
   in VBox, which is a tiny Linux distro. I'll be able to host
 VirtualBox images, that should just run out of the box. (TODO)

 Modified TurnKey Linux [7]
   in VBox, which will create the possibility to move the stuff to your
 own servers or to the cloud.

 Windows native
   with python2.7 .. \o/  using virtualenv and virtualenvwrapper (for
 the powershell)

 With MacOS and Linux, the system runs without a VirtualBox.
   I used virtualenv and virtualenvwrapper, to create clean
 environments, to test the workflow. I don't have the   possibility to
 test with MacOS but cdent uses MacOS for development :)

 ---

 * Tested but I won't use them
 PuppyLinux [9]
   works but it is not the system for me.
 TinyCore Linux
   which works, but I couldn't make the content permanent.

 Many things work allready, but I need your help.

 * beta testing
 * feedback
 * code contributions

 If you like this work and want to support the project. Do me a favor
 [I]

 have fun!
 mario pietsch

 PS: You may think: Why did he do this? - Because I think TiddlyWeb
 reliable enough, usefull enough and small enough to run on every PC.
 It's much smaller than any browser but offers so much more. ...
 and ... I want to make the installation process easy enough for
 everyone.
 PPS: and I'm crazy q;)

 [1]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d875a3...
 [2]http://designspark.com/blog/building-a-personal-microcontent-server-w...
 [3]http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com/
 [4] 
 RasPi-TWebhttps://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/84014e...
 [5]http://www.raspberrypi.org/
 [6]http://www.slitaz.org/
 [7]http://tiddlyspace.com/
 [8]http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlySpaceNumbers
 [9]http://puppylinux.com/
 [10]http://tiddlyweb.tiddlyspace.com/
 [11]http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com/tweb-at-home-iso
 [12] alpha 
 intro:https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlyweb/hAFOoin...

 [I]http://tweb-at-home.tiddlyspace.com/do-me-a-favor

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[tw] Re: javascript to add delete tags to/from existing tiddlers?

2013-02-26 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi again, Dave,

1) How do (your) tests (today) point to (one or multiple) diagnostic 
possiblilities?
2) Do diagnostic suggestions have something in common, i.e. do they 
themselves tag to diagnosis or something similar?
3) Is it rather that you have predefined test cases that are linked to 
diagnostic possiblilities and then actual tests that use x out of y of the 
predefined dignostics possibilities?

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: INTRO: TiddlyWeb at Home

2013-02-26 Thread PMario
On 26 Feb., 23:10, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ps: If you think you're crazy - don't think that you're the only
 one ;-)
:)

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Re: [tw] Re: manually installing plugins with 2 sections of code ??

2013-02-26 Thread mark
Hello Eric and All.
I finally figured out why I had such trouble using the plugins from Eric's site 
in my TW.

Previously I'd posted the below:
My interest in TW is for a specific/personal usage AND because it is quick 
  simple  just does what I need with a little help from some very nice folks 
 here.

And in reply to Eric...:
So I tried to get some of your plugins like I did with others, but TW's 
 import bar just sat  sat  sat.
Then I tried your site  it just confused me.

T'was a mess for certain. (But it's time was short.)

Just recently another member here recommended that I try this plugin from 
Eric's site:
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#DisableWikiLinksPlugin

And I tried to get it, and could not.
So I went on a bit of a rampage and removed this other plugin:
http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr

Presto! Functionality restored !!!

Moral of this little ditty:
T'wasn't me own idiocy or reluctance causing the trouble a'tall.
Solution found  all is well in my wee TW world.

I'm enjoying TW very, very much, and I most sincerely say:
'Thanks !!!' 
To *ALL* the helpful folks here.

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Re: [tw] Re: What is it that makes some text in a tiddler directly into areference ???

2013-02-26 Thread mark
Thanks Very Much Scott !!!
Wanting that plugin helped me to find the root of my non-working file import 
function so I got a  2-at-once solution...bonus for me.

 You won't see any impact on performance unless you click the tab to 
 display 
 the list of Missing tiddlers.  That's when a script will look through 
 the 
 TiddlyWiki and generate a list (on demand) of various CamelCase links and 
 PrettyLinks that point toward non-existent tiddlers.
 
 All those unintended CamelCase links can get underfoot, though.  You may 
 want to check out TiddlyTools' DisableWikiLinksPlugin:
 
 http://www.tiddlytools.com/#DisableWikiLinksPlugin

Great info - very much appreciated !!!

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