[tw] Re: jqMath plugin to write equations

[Milind]

Thank you!

On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:14:25 UTC-7, David Bakin wrote:
>
> Don't know the answer to your question ... but you're creating a cool 
> site!  (I especially like your hand drawn circuit diagrams!  Nicely 
> reminiscent of Forrest M Mims III!)
>
> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-7, Milind wrote:
>
>>
>>  
>>   
>> I am using jqMath to display equations on my website, for example: 
>> http://www.amved.com/milindsweb/Input_Offset_for_Folded_Cascode_Diffamp_with_MOS_load.html
>>
>

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[tw] Re: jqMath plugin to write equations

[David Bakin]

Don't know the answer to your question ... but you're creating a cool 
site!  (I especially like your hand drawn circuit diagrams!  Nicely 
reminiscent of Forrest M Mims III!)

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-7, Milind wrote:

>
>  
>   
> I am using jqMath to display equations on my website, for example: 
> http://www.amved.com/milindsweb/Input_Offset_for_Folded_Cascode_Diffamp_with_MOS_load.html
>

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[tw] TW5 mall

[David Gifford]

Hi guys

Seeing the cool stuff David Johnston is doing for TW5 got me really excited 
about the many possibilities for TW5. Tonight I whipped up a modest 
collection of how-tos, aimed at new users. I call it TW5 mall. See it at 
http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm.

I ask two things of you:

1. How do I get rid of the stylesheet tag pill in the Index?

and 

2. Please submit either here or by email, the kinds of things you think 
should be added to the mall, preferably with explanations of how to do 
them. As I learn TiddlyWiki 5 better, everyone wins, because I can try to 
communicate my learning to other new users who like myself are not coders / 
programmers / developers.

I am quite happy to donate any of these tiddlers to whatever Jeremy and 
team come up with in terms of an official site with tutorials, tips and 
tricks, themes, macros, plugins, widgets, and other goodies. But until then 
I am doing this first of all for me, as a storage place for stuff I want to 
remember how to do, but also for others who may benefit from it until 
something more official gets cooked up.

Blessings,

Dave

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[tw] [TW5] I need the CSS to set the width of the 'system' tab?

[David Gifford]

I even used the developer tools in Firefox to try to find the class for the 
system tab in TW5, to no avail. A little help? I moved the story river to 
the right and want to squish the system tab, or even better all the tabs, 
to fit in the width to the left of the story river.

Dave

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[tw] Re: LineBreaks in javascript?

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:59:06 AM UTC-7, skye riquelme wrote:
>
> I have a simple TW that opens from a bookmarklet...the TW is basically 
> a html form that uses information passed to it 
> have the form create a tiddler with the informationand store that 
> tiddler in the appropriate TW.so the form has a number of "submit" 
> buttons with code such as -
> 

[tw] Re: How can I transclude a tiddler inside a fET-expression?

[Yakov]

Hi guys,

вторник, 1 октября 2013 г., 17:50:07 UTC+4 пользователь Tobias Beer написал:
>
> Don't you currently already have a problem with wanting to access the *
> SiteSubTitle* from each slave TiddlyWiki?
>
> Afaik, *SharedTiddlersPlugin* isn't yet able to display that there are 
> multiple included versions of a single tiddler. It might be possible that 
> there is some helper function that allows you to to fetch the titles of 
> those other, not displayed tid variants. However, whether you can access 
> their contents using something like *
> getTiddlerText('tiddler__SlaveX##Motala')* is a whole different matter.
>
> Yes, because of some core codes it's very complicated thing to implement (
story.displayTiddler throws away a tiddler fetches it again by title; and 
even if the tiddler is temporary "hijacked" and displayed, any refreshing 
will change it back to the "main" version). One of the nearest targets will 
be search and other aggregation among different TWs, including conflicting 
tiddlers, but this things are only at a design stage..

And currently the way to get and display such tiddlers is to use 
sharedTiddlersAPI.getStore and .fetchTiddler with some macro like write or 
wikify or even fet (with dummy main write param and non-dummy begin param).

But, em.. magev958, I didn't actually get what are you trying to achieve.
 

> The sanest advise I can give you is to use a dedicated index tiddler for 
> every slave that is either named or tagged a certain way so that you can 
> access it in your FET code.
>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #15 on Tuesday 1st October 2013 at 4pm BST

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mario

Thanks once again for that. Shame about the truncated recording. At least I
know to get myself on a wired connection for next time.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM, PMario  wrote:

> see: TiddlyWiki Hangout 15 
> annotations - http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2013-10-01-TW5-hangout-15
> recording is broken at about 1h20 :/
> have fun!
> mario
>



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[tw] Re: LineBreaks in javascript?

[PMario]

You are covering your javascript inside a "onclick" string, so imo the \n 
has to be escaped. 

try   \\nwhich should produce what you want. 

  <- string end


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #15 on Tuesday 1st October 2013 at 4pm BST

[PMario]

see: TiddlyWiki Hangout 15 
annotations - http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2013-10-01-TW5-hangout-15
recording is broken at about 1h20 :/
have fun!
mario

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[tw] jqMath plugin to write equations

[Milind]

 
 
  
I am using jqMath to display equations on my website, for example: 
http://www.amved.com/milindsweb/Input_Offset_for_Folded_Cascode_Diffamp_with_MOS_load.html

I am really interested to use jqMath on Tiddlywiki. Since the javascript is 
already there it might be a simple matter to make it into a tiddlywiki 
Extension. If that can be done it would be really great since jqMath is 
really easy to setup and the syntax is very intuitive, just like writing 
the equation directly and its faster than MathJax. I see this link: 
http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2011/06/25/latex-for-tiddlywiki-a-mathjax-plugin/where
 the MathJax javascript is used as a extension to tiddlywiki. I am 
guessing it would be something similar. I have no knowledge at all about 
Javascript or Tiddlywiki extensions, if anyone thinks this is a easy thing 
to do I would appreciate some guidance. If a plugin for jqMath exists I 
would love to get a hold of it.

   After talking to the developer of jqMath he told me that we just have to 
load the stylesheet and the 2 javascript files and then when generating the 
HTML of the tiddler we need to call M.parseMath(myDiv); after loading the 
equation in myDiv element.

Is there a template to do these things in Tiddlywiki so such kind of 
scripts can be easily integrated in your custom extension? That would be 
very useful. Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks.

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[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor

[Yakov]

Hi Vincent,

yeap, like you have noticed, your "second" message (after my reply), but 
also the two others -- got deleted somewhy; anyway, I got them in my email 
as I'm subscribed for the comments.

Now, "let's talk business" :)

The table row/colomn moving kind of works, but very slowly. In a simple 
example

|a|b|
|c|d|

moving colomns takes 6-12 seconds, moving rows -- ~4 seconds; it seems that 
the moving is stored each time but it is not always displayed.. (for better 
testing I disabled all other plugins and even opened just one tiddler with 
such table, but still in both Opera and FF I get these problems). By the 
way, this may be of interest (see the updates to the most voted answer): 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/268490/jquery-document-createelement-equivalent

By the way, as far as I understand, this

Although I do not know the cause, the fix is easy: assign the content text 
> after, rather then at the same time of, the creation of editbox with 
> jQuery. That is, separate the codes from
>  
> $ta = jQuery(''+txt+'');
>  
> to
>  
> $ta = jQuery('');
> $ta.val(txt);
>
is because creating element using this syntax 
http://api.jquery.com/jQuery/#jQuery2 actually parses html, and for 
textareaparsed text is set, but if you set the value via 
val, you get it "as is".

The html entitites issue, like you said, is gone and the 
chkTWtedEditAllTables option now works as expected, great.

Some ideas/notes for the issues:

1.3 May be adding some classes that content wrappers have (like "tiddler 
selected" or "viewer") to the previewer will make styling the same.

2.1 I'd say that's somewhat ok if I can add new lines in an "edit list 
item" area by pressing some keys. For now, I can only copy-paste the 
newline symbol from elsewhere (all enter, ctrl+enter, shift+enter, 
alt+entereither don't do anything or close the edit area), but by adding a 
newline a 
list item before, after and of any level can be created.

2.2 Wow, this works! (although causes some jumping of the screen up and 
down and, like you said, doesn't work well with list items of different 
level)

4.1 in the tiddler you sited it is said:

move the cursor to the right until the focusing borders become larger
>

well, the problem is on moving to the right the focusing borders either 
disapper (for text blocks) or don't become larger (list items) and the only 
way [in my setup] to get the whole transcluded content selected is to put 
mouse somewhere *on the left* of the content.

6.1 Ok.. you can ask me some direct questions, but "in vacuum".. Well, the 
two main function to look at are .subWikifyUnterm (it's simpler, but is 
used only "once" -- in the .subWikify) and .subWikifyTerm (it is used, for 
instance, in some formatters like heading, and uses termRegExpr property of 
formatters). Another important note is that it's easier to start from 
formatters and then dig wikifying. Finally, it's very important (and not 
obvious) that formatters keep an eye on the w.nextMatch index: see, for 
instance, the macro formatter. [*]

Honestly, I haven't overviewed the whole thing yet.

Best regards,
Yakov.

[*] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/Wikifier.js
https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/Formatter.js

 
>>
>>
>> [TWtid/TWted/TWtable 2.0.5 + TW 2.6.5 with STP 2.4.0 + Opera 12.16 + Win7 
>> x64]
>>
>> 0. Separate bugs/notes/questions
>>  
>>
> 0.2 The "i-show-the-element-to-edit-on-click-here" border still appears 
>> around the displayArea (id=tiddlerDisplay) and elements with the tagged, 
>> tagging classes [which is not desirable]
>>
> 0.3 If TWted is not launched, but TWtid is (with or without TWtable), 
>> backstage is not displayed and on start no tiddlers (from DefaultTiddlers) 
>> is displayed
>>  
>>
> I do not have these two issues with IE10/Win8 x64 (the only browser/OS 
> combo at hand right now). Will check with other combinations next week. (We 
> are having a four day long weekend for the Moon festival, during which 
> we usually have a gathering with families or a party with friends. But this 
> time we are having a huge tropical storm.)
>  
>
>> 1. Editing simple text
>>
>> 1.2 the previewer still doesn't work well with long texts because if one 
>> starts editing its beginning, the preview of it is above the top end of the 
>> screen. Desired behaviour is to cut the previewer and make it autoscroll. 
>> Is it the position of the cursor in the previewer which is difficult to 
>> grab? I can suggest some solutions on this, but of'course it all depends on 
>> the implentation.
>> 1.3 the previewer shows the content in a different styling, as if it was 
>> in the SideBar -- this causes, for instant, displaying quotes with simple 
>> indents and buttons from macros like <> not very notable
>>
> I am aware of these two for quite a while but still haven't figured a good 
> solution yet. For 1.2 I am thinking of a "line previewer" which 
> supposedly shows only one line of content. If it 

[tw] Re: Special characters

[skye riquelme]

Hi All

yeah I have encountered this problem frequently.. only in my case its 
characters with portugues accents that get scrambled. hope we have a 
solution to this sometime soon

Skye

Em terça-feira, 6 de outubro de 2009 05h59min33s UTC-3, Jakob Graulund 
Jørgensen escreveu:
>
> Hi 
>
> I am having some trouble loading tiddlers with special characters (the 
> Danish letters æ, ø and å). 
>
> I’m using the ImportTiddlersPlugin and the Danish letters appear as 
> Chinese characters after importing them. 
>
> Using the CreateTiddlersFromCSV there is no such error. 
>
> The problem is, however, that I want to use the ImportTiddlersPlugin. 
>
> So I think I need to correct the problem post-import (because I simply 
> don’t understand what the ImportTiddlersPlugin does to the Danish 
> letters). 
>
> The Danish letters appear in a custom field I’ve created called 
> ‘names’. 
>
> So I would like an easy way to replace all of the content of the 
> custom field ‘names’ with the proper Danish names (using æ, ø and å) 
> without messing with the rest of the tiddler’s content and without 
> having to manually open and edit each tiddler. 
>

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[tw] LineBreaks in javascript?

[skye riquelme]

Hi Againbeen busy using my farm of TWs and not much time birthing new 
ones...till now

I have a simple TW that opens from a bookmarklet...the TW is basically 
a html form that uses information passed to it ... recording url, title, 
dominion and highlighted text. a sort of homespun version of the old 
TiddySnip!   Except that I can edit the information, add more stuff and 
then, click the submit button to have that data stored into a flat text 
file on my serverusing simple PHP. 

So I can record a "bookmark", with added notes and comments into my 
text-based database on my server.

Next step... as well as storing this data into the text-data-base I 
want to also have the form create a tiddler with the informationand 
store that tiddler in the appropriate TW.so the form has a number of 
"submit" buttons with code such as -



where I define a button (called "eAi")set the uploadTiddler parameters, 
construct the text that is to be inserted in the new tiddler...use 
store.saveTiddler to pass that new tiddler to the appropriate TWand 
then construct the data line that will be recorded in the text file by 
the php file set at the header of the form.

all this works. EXCEPT.note that the text line construct formats 
the text using linebreaks ("\n").. this breaks the store.saveTiddler 
parameters and this macro fails to work. If I remove the "\n" from this 
code...the store.saveTiddler macro works perfectly BUT the text is not 
formated with the linebreaks in the tiddler at the other end...which makes 
reading the information a little cumbersome.

SO, how can I code the formatting of the text in a way that does not break 
the store.saveTiddler macro? I tried "" that doesnt break the 
macro...but doesnt format the text in viewtemplate either!

Thanks in advance
Skye


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[tw] Re: [TW5] - Thoughts and questions about layout

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Dave,

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:10:50 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Okay, I will weigh in.
>
> I for one am patiently looking forward to toggle on an off the right 
> sidebar, since usually I like to clear the decks and focus on content.
>
> Me too. I already do have a working topmenu with 4 buttons (new tiddler, 
control panel, save and close all tiddlers), see 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm
I only need a new 'close all' icon but do not know yet how to create - or 
borrow - one and embed it in a tiddler.
 

> I do agree with the principle that the tiddlers should normally be a 
> limited width to facilitate reading. For reading text, narrower is better. 
> And most tiddlers will be text. 
>
> Yes in many cases it will be true: mainly text.
But one of my use cases ( 
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/Amsterdam_1822-2009.html ) 
contains more than 2500 photos.
And that is one of the reasons I use tabs. It will be clear if you check 
the photo album, menu Diversen > Fotalbum, tab Nostalgie. If you click a 
photo an enlarged version of it will be opened in a new tab of the browser.


Having the tiddlers be on the left took some getting used to, and still 
> doesn't feel as natural to me as having them on the right, but there are 
> mechanical reasons for which Jeremy put them on the left, and I can live 
> with that.
>
>  
You can easily reverse the tiddlers/sidebar order in 
$:/ControlPanel/ThemetWeaks. Change e.g.:
Story left position 0 => 400
Story right 770 => 20

I am not really keen on the wideness of the right sidebar, and the fact 
> that the story river is too narrow for some tables and images I use in TW. 
> But I have noticed that in zoomin mode, the tiddler width adjusts to the 
> content, and in the case of wide tiddlers, covers over the sidebar. So that 
> is enough to please me, though it must be frustrating to people who need to 
> access the sidebar when that happens.
>
> One thing I hope gets fixed is the extra wide tiddler titles for the state 
> tiddlers in the system tab. I tend to have the system tab open in order to 
> access my stylesheet and other custom system tiddlers. But that extra wide 
> title is annoying to look at and also causes a horizontal scrollbar to 
> appear.
>
> Ton, you seem pretty pumped about tabs! They are handy, but I can see that 
> in TW5 they will have less room to breathe, unless you can toggle the 
> sidebar. I am using tag pills to access things in TW5 rather than tabs. You 
> can create a wall of tab pills, which you can then click to access all the 
> tiddlers in that category. See http://giffmex.org/recursosgiffmex.htm and 
> search for the tiddler Muro de 
> etiquetasto see 
> an example which you can edit to see how it's done. I 
> am also attaching a screenshot of my TW5 to do list. You may find that this 
> is a cleaner open than tabs. Just a thought.
>
> Your screenshot looks very clean, but as I already wrote I prefer tabs in 
my use case with many photos.
But it's all a matter of taste as well.

Cheers, Ton

Blessings,
>
> Dave
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Need a way to filter (or otherwise process) all links in a wiki into a list

[David Bakin]

Works great!  (Haven't tried all the features, but I've used the ones
related to external links.) And very good documentation too!  And a pointer
to listfiltrplugin as well...

Top notch!


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:05 AM, David Bakin  wrote:

> Holy cow! Talk about great 'customer support'!  I'll report back -- David
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
>> As far as I know such a plugin doesn't exist yet.
>>
>> So, I created it:
>> http://links.tiddlyspace.com
>>
>> In other words, this is a new plugin. Do some testing, see if it works as
>> desired... and try to be humble with a long list of further features. ;-)
>>
>> Best wishes, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Special characters

[Grégoire Montcheuil]

I encounter the same problem.

After a quick look to the code of ImportTiddlersPlugin.
Currently, the convertUTF8ToUnicode() is deactivate only for TW version 
2.5.2

> if (version.major+version.minor*.1+version.revision*.01!=2.52) 
> txt=convertUTF8ToUnicode(txt);
>
I change it for all version starting from 2.5.2 :

> if (version.major+version.minor*.1+version.revision*.01 < 2.52) 
> txt=convertUTF8ToUnicode(txt);
>

After that, I import all my tiddlers without Chinese characters.

Best regards, 


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Re: [tw] Re: Need a way to filter (or otherwise process) all links in a wiki into a list

[David Bakin]

Holy cow! Talk about great 'customer support'!  I'll report back -- David


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Tobias Beer  wrote:

> As far as I know such a plugin doesn't exist yet.
>
> So, I created it:
> http://links.tiddlyspace.com
>
> In other words, this is a new plugin. Do some testing, see if it works as
> desired... and try to be humble with a long list of further features. ;-)
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #15 on Tuesday 1st October 2013 at 4pm BST

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hangout #15 is kicking off in 15 minutes over at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/84f9b9761662b5c88a6f1558ef568f6584db0bca

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> TiddlyWiki Hangout #15 is coming up next Tuesday 1st October 2013 at 4pm
> BST. The details:
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/cqbdc4ln2hoaf7rgfeb23dla0h0
>
> I'll post the URL for joining the hangout shortly before we kick off,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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[tw] Re: How can I transclude a tiddler inside a fET-expression?

[Tobias Beer]

Don't you currently already have a problem with wanting to access the *
SiteSubTitle* from each slave TiddlyWiki?

Afaik, *SharedTiddlersPlugin* isn't yet able to display that there are 
multiple included versions of a single tiddler. It might be possible that 
there is some helper function that allows you to to fetch the titles of 
those other, not displayed tid variants. However, whether you can access 
their contents using something like *
getTiddlerText('tiddler__SlaveX##Motala')* is a whole different matter.

The sanest advise I can give you is to use a dedicated index tiddler for 
every slave that is either named or tagged a certain way so that you can 
access it in your FET code.

Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Question: How do you see yourself using Lists in TW5?

[PMario]

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:54:39 PM UTC+2, David Johnston wrote:
>
> This filter, if used correctly should be able to create some kind of 
> breadcrumb trail potentially .. or show preceding items in a list of 
> articles or following articles if desired.
>

I like the possibility to list "following articles" without changing an 
existing one, just to add this info!  
Cool stuff!
-m

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[tw] Re: Need a way to filter (or otherwise process) all links in a wiki into a list

[Tobias Beer]

As far as I know such a plugin doesn't exist yet.

So, I created it:
http://links.tiddlyspace.com

In other words, this is a new plugin. Do some testing, see if it works as 
desired... and try to be humble with a long list of further features. ;-)

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Question: How do you see yourself using Lists in TW5?

[David Johnston]

Hi David,

I have just finished the "before" filter ... it will return all tiddlers 
before the "current" one in a list. With the ! prefix (not) .. it will act 
as "after" and return all tiddlers after the "current" one in a list.

This filter, if used correctly should be able to create some kind of 
breadcrumb trail potentially .. or show preceding items in a list of 
articles or following articles if desired.

In addition I found a bug in the "limit" filter, specifically to do with 
the prefix, I have fixed it and issued a "pull request" on github for 
Jeremy to overview.

Once that is approved, I will submit the "before" filter via a "pull 
request" to github :)


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[tw] Re: [TW5] - Thoughts and questions about layout

[David Gifford]

Okay, I will weigh in.

I for one am patiently looking forward to toggle on an off the right 
sidebar, since usually I like to clear the decks and focus on content.

I do agree with the principle that the tiddlers should normally be a 
limited width to facilitate reading. For reading text, narrower is better. 
And most tiddlers will be text. 

Having the tiddlers be on the left took some getting used to, and still 
doesn't feel as natural to me as having them on the right, but there are 
mechanical reasons for which Jeremy put them on the left, and I can live 
with that.

I am not really keen on the wideness of the right sidebar, and the fact 
that the story river is too narrow for some tables and images I use in TW. 
But I have noticed that in zoomin mode, the tiddler width adjusts to the 
content, and in the case of wide tiddlers, covers over the sidebar. So that 
is enough to please me, though it must be frustrating to people who need to 
access the sidebar when that happens.

One thing I hope gets fixed is the extra wide tiddler titles for the state 
tiddlers in the system tab. I tend to have the system tab open in order to 
access my stylesheet and other custom system tiddlers. But that extra wide 
title is annoying to look at and also causes a horizontal scrollbar to 
appear.

Ton, you seem pretty pumped about tabs! They are handy, but I can see that 
in TW5 they will have less room to breathe, unless you can toggle the 
sidebar. I am using tag pills to access things in TW5 rather than tabs. You 
can create a wall of tab pills, which you can then click to access all the 
tiddlers in that category. See http://giffmex.org/recursosgiffmex.htm and 
search for the tiddler Muro de 
etiquetasto see 
an example which you can edit to see how it's done. I 
am also attaching a screenshot of my TW5 to do list. You may find that this 
is a cleaner open than tabs. Just a thought.

Blessings,

Dave

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[tw] How can I transclude a tiddler inside a fET-expression?

[magev958]

Hi, I'm using a Info-Wiki at work comprising 1 master-TW and some 40+ 
slave-TW using SharedTiddlersPlugin (1). Every slave-TW has 6 tiddler with 
its own, unik content, SiteSubTitle with the name of the section using it 
and 5 with the tag to fetch from master-TW (includeList and a few fET-s 
(2). For example if the section "Motala" the SiteSubTitle is "Klinisk kemi 
Motala" and in the other 5 tiddler the tag "Motala" is used, everthing else 
is the same, fetched from master-TW.

Is it possible to have only one tiddler containing the data "Motala" and a 
expression using that tiddler-data in all other?

/Magnus

(1) http://yakovl.bplaced.net/TW/STP/STP.html/#SharedTiddlersPlugin
(2) example
<= count)
window.fetStartIndex = 
Math.min(Math.max(window.fetStartIndex-window.fetItemsPerPage,0),count-1);

createTiddlyButton(context.place,"<",null,
function(e) {
window.fetStartIndex -= window.fetItemsPerPage;
refreshElements(document.getElementById("sidebar"));

});
createTiddlyButton(context.place,">",null,
function(e) {
window.fetStartIndex += window.fetItemsPerPage;
refreshElements(document.getElementById("sidebar"));

});

var startNo = window.fetStartIndex+1;
var endNo = 
Math.min(count,window.fetStartIndex+window.fetItemsPerPage);

return " ( "+startNo+" - "+endNo+ " av "+ count + " 
anteckningar )\n\n";
}
'

write
'(index >= window.fetStartIndex) && (index < 
window.fetStartIndex + 15) ? "* [["+tiddler.title+"]]<>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] - Thoughts and questions about layout

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Tobias,

Thanks for answering.

I'am still learning and there are at the moment not many examples of TW5 
'in the wild'.
Therefore I appreciate when I can have a look at others TW5's (so thanks to 
Dave Gifford).
Today I saw David Johnston submitting a demo about using the list filter. 
Excellent, I'll have a look.

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 10:13:31 AM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> As for the waste of space, unless you're in pursuit of a specific usecase, 
> I think it's intuitive and refreshing as well as productivity and 
> usability enhancing that the default layout is simplistic with as little 
> clutter as possible and I sure hope it will keep that quality.
>
 
 As I already wrote: I am biased. Therefore I mentioned 2 of my use cases 
you have seen: the ones with lots of nested sliders.

In general, I like the minimalistic design.

>
> Today, there also is the need that things scale well in a mobile 
> environment. In fact, word of the day is "Mobile first!".
>
 
 That is just what my second question addresses: dynamically adjusting the 
width instead of fixed width for the story river.

>
> Of course it should or will be easy to add custom components, e.g. a 
> TopMenu or a LeftSidebar in the most simple form via entering content in 
> the corresponding places.
>
> Yesterday I succeeded (thanks to Dave Gifford) in getting a top menu with 
the 'new tiddler', 'control panel' and 'save' buttons in it (the 3 buttons 
from the sidebar).
I also managed to add a 4th button - 'close all' - to the top menu; 
temporarely I use the "standard" 'close' button. I have to design a 'close 
all' icon. Any ideas?

What is often harder to do is to get rid of stuff once it's there, like 
> those now superfluous headerForeground and headerBackground with horribly 
> outdated gradients in TWc.
>
 
I totally agree. When I started using TWc it took some time before I knew 
how to change things.

I think, not only from a designers perspective, i.e. someone using TWc to 
> develop a custom ui on top of it, less is more...
>
> <=>
>
;)

Cheers,

Ton 

>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] - Thoughts and questions about layout

[Tobias Beer]

As for the waste of space, unless you're in pursuit of a specific usecase, 
I think it's intuitive and refreshing as well as productivity and usability 
enhancing that the default layout is simplistic with as little clutter as 
possible and I sure hope it will keep that quality.

Today, there also is the need that things scale well in a mobile 
environment. In fact, word of the day is "Mobile first!".

Of course it should or will be easy to add custom components, e.g. a 
TopMenu or a LeftSidebar in the most simple form via entering content in 
the corresponding places.

What is often harder to do is to get rid of stuff once it's there, like 
those now superfluous headerForeground and headerBackground with horribly 
outdated gradients in TWc. I think, not only from a designers perspective, 
i.e. someone using TWc to develop a custom ui on top of it, less is more...

<=>

Tobias.

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