date:20140708

Hi Matabele

It might be an idea if automatic linking occurred only if a tiddler of that
 name already exists (automatic linking suppressed in the event that a
 tiddler of that name does not exist.)

 Perhaps this could be expressed in the form of a global macro:

 \define tw-wikilinks() if filter=[field:title[mylink]] then 'yes' else
 'no'

 Any ideas?


Automatic linking to missing tiddlers is a pretty useful core wiki feature.
There would be a performance penalty for making it configurable. A wrinkle
is that we actually do automatic link detection at parse time (rather than
render time). Because we cache the results of parsing a tiddler the parsing
process mustn't depend on the values of any other tiddlers. So there'd have
to be some rejigging to get things working properly.

Best wishes

Jeremy




 regards

 On Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:00:42 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Michael michae...@infrafrontier.eu
 wrote:

 I always wondered, why words containing hyphens (e.g. Ctrl-A) are
 considered as WikiLinks.


 There's been some discussion on this:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/337

 As I commented on the ticket, I think that camelcase detection should be
 much more conservative, and shouldn't consider underscore and dashes to be
 letters.

 I'll try to sort this ticket out for 5.0.14.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy







 To create WikiLinks from words that are written in CamelCase makes
 absolute sense, since these words are arbitrarily written in that way, and
 CamelCase is an established way of 'marking up' specific words, e.g.
 variables, when programming. Words with hyphens, on the other hand, are
 rather abundant in certain languages, such as German.

 Rather than having to disable WikiLinks altogether or case by case when
 writing in a language that contains many hyphenated words, wouldn't it make
 more sense to exclude them completely from the CamelCase rule?

 Cheers,
 Michael


 On Saturday, July 5, 2014 3:23:08 PM UTC+2, Thameera Senanayaka wrote:

 Hi all,

 Been using TW5 for about two months and I'm really happy with it.

 One small question: When I type in some strings like two words combined
 with a hyphen (eg: Ctrl-A) TW5 thinks it's a link and shows as a hyperlink
 when viewing.

 Is there a way I can tell it to mark it as a link only when I
 explicitly mark using square brackets?

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Tabs Macro: How to sort

2014-07-08 Thread Danielo Rodríguez

That's the field, sure but it is not used the way I thought. There is no 
way to control the order of the tabs of a tabs macro?

El lunes, 7 de julio de 2014 13:42:42 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 You may be thinking of the mechanisms for ordering tiddlers with a 
 particular tag:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerTags

 Best wishes

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 Hello again

 I know that there is a feature in the tabs macro that lets you order the 
 tabs, but I can't find any information in this group neither in 
 tiddliwiki.com. Is something like a field called render before, or 
 insert before. Could you please help me with this? This should be on the 
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Tabs Macro: How to sort

The tiddlers to be included in the tabs are specified as a filter, so you
can order the tabs using the filter syntax. Can you expand a little on what
you're trying to achieve?

Best wishes

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wrote:

 That's the field, sure but it is not used the way I thought. There is no
 way to control the order of the tabs of a tabs macro?

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 Hi Danielo

 You may be thinking of the mechanisms for ordering tiddlers with a
 particular tag:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerTags

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



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 Hello again

 I know that there is a feature in the tabs macro that lets you order the
 tabs, but I can't find any information in this group neither in
 tiddliwiki.com. Is something like a field called render before, or
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Tabs Macro: How to sort

2014-07-08 Thread Danielo Rodríguez

Sorry,

I was not using it in the correct way. Now it is working as expected. So 
the real use of that field is to order a list... this gives it much more 
power that just constraining it to the tabs macro. COOOL.

El martes, 8 de julio de 2014 09:46:06 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez escribió:

 That's the field, sure but it is not used the way I thought. There is no 
 way to control the order of the tabs of a tabs macro?

 El lunes, 7 de julio de 2014 13:42:42 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 You may be thinking of the mechanisms for ordering tiddlers with a 
 particular tag:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerTags

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



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 Hello again

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 tabs, but I can't find any information in this group neither in 
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Re: [tw] RSS support for TW5?

Hi Tom

I think you're the first person to ask about RSS support for TW5. I do
intend to implement it, and have created a ticket for you to track it:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/677

Best wishes

Jeremy



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 Hi Folks,

 I've been playing around with the latest Tiddlywiki5 beta after not using
 tiddlywiki for a little while - it's really great to see this fabulous
 project getting a new lease of life!
 Just wondering whether a built-in RSS feed is going to be part of the
 spec? I tried the trick of adding /index.xml to my tiddlywiki5 instance
 (this works for classic tiddlywiki), but nothing shows up.
 I had a look around at the roadmap but couldn't see any mention of this.

 Cheers,

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How do I stop automatic link creation?

Hi

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:38:22 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Matabele

 Automatic linking to missing tiddlers is a pretty useful core wiki feature.


Why so? If I wish to create a 'missing link' for automatic tiddler 
creation, I can easily surround the 'missing link' with double brackets in 
a deliberate manner -- this only applies to CamelCase 'missing links' in 
any case. 
 

 There would be a performance penalty for making it configurable.


Perhaps automatic linking to missing tiddlers should be suppressed by 
default.
 

 A wrinkle is that we actually do automatic link detection at parse time 
 (rather than render time). Because we cache the results of parsing a 
 tiddler the parsing process mustn't depend on the values of any other 
 tiddlers. So there'd have to be some rejigging to get things working 
 properly.


Might be worthwhile -- I am accustomed to the idea of automatic linking (as 
in Tomboy) -- indeed, it would be useful if automatic linking were extended 
from CamelCase strings to any string matching an existing tiddler title. 

In summary:
1.  I am of the opinion that the suppression of automatic linking of 
CamelCase forms in piecemeal fashion is more troublesome than having to 
deliberately mark 'missing links'
2.  Automatic linking of strings matching existing tiddler titles is useful 
and should perhaps be extended to non CamelCase strings

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How do I stop automatic link creation?

Hi Matabele

I've seen the approach of matching any existing tiddler title as a link
(regardless of double square brackets), and I can see the attraction in
simple cases. But as I say, the problem for TW5 is that at the time of
parsing a tiddler we don't know which tiddlers will exist at the time(s)
that it is rendered.

Best wishes

Jeremy




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 Hi

 On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:38:22 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Matabele


 Automatic linking to missing tiddlers is a pretty useful core wiki
 feature.


 Why so? If I wish to create a 'missing link' for automatic tiddler
 creation, I can easily surround the 'missing link' with double brackets in
 a deliberate manner -- this only applies to CamelCase 'missing links' in
 any case.


 There would be a performance penalty for making it configurable.


 Perhaps automatic linking to missing tiddlers should be suppressed by
 default.


 A wrinkle is that we actually do automatic link detection at parse time
 (rather than render time). Because we cache the results of parsing a
 tiddler the parsing process mustn't depend on the values of any other
 tiddlers. So there'd have to be some rejigging to get things working
 properly.


 Might be worthwhile -- I am accustomed to the idea of automatic linking
 (as in Tomboy) -- indeed, it would be useful if automatic linking were
 extended from CamelCase strings to any string matching an existing tiddler
 title.

 In summary:
 1.  I am of the opinion that the suppression of automatic linking of
 CamelCase forms in piecemeal fashion is more troublesome than having to
 deliberately mark 'missing links'
 2.  Automatic linking of strings matching existing tiddler titles is
 useful and should perhaps be extended to non CamelCase strings

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How do I stop automatic link creation?

Hi

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 11:00:34 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Matabele

 I've seen the approach of matching any existing tiddler title as a link 
 (regardless of double square brackets), and I can see the attraction in 
 simple cases.


I have no idea how Tomboy manages to parse text for all links to existing 
notes, but find this kind of linking to be a 'magic' feature of Tomboy, 
lacking in most other wiki software. 

 

 But as I say, the problem for TW5 is that at the time of parsing a tiddler 
 we don't know which tiddlers will exist at the time(s) that it is rendered.


When are tiddlers parsed? If this is a matter of refreshing the browser, I 
don't see this as much of a problem. The only outstanding links will be for 
those tiddlers created after the tiddler in question.

The difficulty will be that the text field would have to parsed for strings 
matching all existing titles rather than only for CamelCase forms. 
Suppressing automatic linking of CamelCase forms for non-existent tiddlers 
would be simpler as this involves parsing only for CamelCase forms, then 
checking for valid links.

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[tw] Re: GettingStarted tiddler is zealous at startup

2014-07-08 Thread Clément Aymé


I've just followed the GettingStarted advice: 

*Stop this message appearing by changing the default tiddlers under the 
Basics tab. *

And saved globally (note there is no tick to save $:/ControlPanel tiddler) 
using the download icon. 
But with no luck.

When I try to edit $:/DefaultTiddlers I got a dialog box that warns about 
future updates... 
So what ?

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[tw] [TW5] Some silly nodejs tw5 startup problem, please help

2014-07-08 Thread Mat

Hm, feeling a bit silly here but I'm doing something wrong trying to start 
up a fresh tw5 nodejs version. I get it started but I only see what appears 
to be the right hand menu column, no 'river' column at all. I've tried to 
attach an image to this post, hope you can see it.
What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!

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Re: [tw] Re: (TWC) Treeview menu in updated NoteStorm

Success story! Great to hear, Kevin!


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:43 AM, KML kmlkml...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Dave,

 Thanks for your advice and posting the address for the treeview version of
 NoteStorm. The import of 139 tiddlers (without SiteTitle and SiteSubtitle)
 from it into TWC v. 2.8.1 was successful. I was then able to import other
 plugins including the DataTiddlerPlugin, so that is all looking positive.
 Only minor item I've noticed so far is that the backstage saveAs option
 generates a permission error in Firefox (although I have the TiddlyFox
 add-in), but I can easily save the file via the Firefox menu. In fact, I
 see that saveAs doesn't appear in the backstage of the 2.8.1 core.

 Just need to do a little reformatting (narrowing sidebars) and compacting
 of buttons to better fit my Android phone screen and I'll be done.

 Thanks again for your help and all you've contributed to TiddlyWiki.

 --Kevin


 On Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:20:26 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi Kevin,

 Glad to hear you have gotten good use out of an old project of mine. I
 grew disenchanted with the treeview function for some reason, and changed
 NoteStorm around at that point. But it is still a nice feature.

 First, for you or for anyone helping you, here is a new address for the
 treeview version: http://www.giffmex.org/NoteStorm(oldtreeviewversion).
 html

 Second, here are a couple other old treeview alternatives on TW Classic

 http://treeview.tiddlyspot.com/

 http://twt-treeview.tiddlyspot.com/

 I would try doing as you say, Kevin, transferring tiddlers from any of
 the three options above to the latest version of TWC and see how it goes.
 Let us know how you go. I am really busy for the next few days, but if it
 doesn't work for you, I am willing to give it a try for you when I get
 caught up. Post as a reply on this thread and I will see it as an email.

 By the way, if anyone wants to take ANY of my old TW classic resources to
 host and keep them updated to the new version, or alternatively, update
 them and send them to me to upload to my site, please feel free to do so. I
 have totally invested in TW5 and have no plans to keep up the TWC
 resources. But I can always upload them if someone upgrades a copy. And I
 am also not protective of these resources. They are for the TW community to
 do as it wishes with them.

 Blessings,

 Dave



 On Saturday, July 5, 2014 11:41:10 AM UTC-5, KML wrote:

 I'm a new poster seeking a classic TW adaptation similar to NoteStorm or
 maybe just a tweak to NoteStorm 1.0.1.

 I've used NoteStorm 1.0 (based on TW version 2.5.3) in Firefox for a few
 years and would like to update since various backstage parts including
 SaveAs and Import stopped working at some point. NoteStorm 1.0 appealed to
 me because of it's simplified formatting and the multi-level, hierarchical
 Treeview left-hand menu. Dave Gifford updated NoteStorm to version 1.0.1
 (based on TW version 2.8.0) but that version appears to no longer offer the
 Treeview menu.

 Do any of you have suggestions on how to simply recover the Treeview
 lefthand menu in NoteStorm 1.0.1?

 Alternatively, is it reasonable to import all of tiddlers that make up
 NoteStorm 1.0 onto the latest TW core? I've never done something this
 ambitious in TW and would welcome guidance if that approach is recommended.

 Just for context, I made minor formatting tweaks to the first version of
 NoteStorm to make it easier to read on an Android phone using AndTidWiki
 and hope to do the same for an updated version. I have looked at TWT-Notes
 but it is based on an older version of TW (2.4.3) and also seems to have
 import issues.  Lastly, I need something stable and plan to import
 abegoExtensions such as DataTiddlerPlugin, so I'm hesitant to jump to TW5
 beta right now.

 Thanks,
 Kevin

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #53 is tomorrow, Tuesday 8th July at 4pm BST

Hi

There was discussion with respect the limitations of button widget 
messaging in Hangout #52. I have been investigating the idea of stacking 
widgets around a button widget and linking them together with widget 
messages -- the widgets may be found at: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/ 

The approach appears to be working out well and has several advantages:
-- each widget is kept simple
-- intelligent choice of defaults is, therefore, possible
-- avoids unnecessary complexity in the parameters to the button widget
-- resulting buttons can carry out quite complex user actions.

I won't be able to join the discussion due to the poor quality of my 
internet connection, but would appreciate discussion with respect the 
concept of stacking widgets around a button; especially any foreseen 
limitations of this approach.

I don't wish to go too far down a road that might, in the long run, prove 
to be wasted effort (and drag others with me who are now adopting some of 
these widgets.) 

regards

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 TiddlyWiki Hangout #53 will be tomorrow, Tuesday 8th July at 4pm BST:

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 If you've any questions or topics for discussion, please reply here, or 
 use the QA button on the video preview at the page above.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Some silly nodejs tw5 startup problem, please help

Hi

New wikis have to be initialised before they load correctly:
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   1. tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server to create a folder for a new wiki 
   that includes server-related components


On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 2:22:03 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:

 Hm, feeling a bit silly here but I'm doing something wrong trying to start 
 up a fresh tw5 nodejs version. I get it started but I only see what appears 
 to be the right hand menu column, no 'river' column at all. I've tried to 
 attach an image to this post, hope you can see it.
 What am I doing wrong?

 Thank you!

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Some silly nodejs tw5 startup problem, please help

2014-07-08 Thread Mat

Excellent. I assumed that since I got *someting* then I had already done 
that step. 
Thank you Matabele!


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1. tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server to create a folder for a new 
wiki that includes server-related components


 On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 2:22:03 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:

 Hm, feeling a bit silly here but I'm doing something wrong trying to 
 start up a fresh tw5 nodejs version. I get it started but I only see what 
 appears to be the right hand menu column, no 'river' column at all. I've 
 tried to attach an image to this post, hope you can see it.
 What am I doing wrong?

 Thank you!

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[tw] Codeblock within numbered list (and formatting inside codeblock)

2014-07-08 Thread Marc Laflamme

Is it possible to embed a codeblock in a numbered list and then have the 
numbered list continue?

If I do this:

# First step
# Second step
```
Commands for second step
```
# Third step

What I see is:
1. First step
2. Second step

Commands for second step

1. Third step

Is it possible to have the numbers resume after the code block?

Second question is:

Can you apply formatting within a code block (eg. bold)?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #53 is tomorrow, Tuesday 8th July at 4pm BST

The hangout is about to start over at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeg5OTzNYIVX5vIA70ksLxjguFKminQ6d15hWYk3GeINohWaQ

Matabele - we'll make sure to cover your concerns about widget stacking.

Many thanks,

Jeremy




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 Hi

 There was discussion with respect the limitations of button widget
 messaging in Hangout #52. I have been investigating the idea of stacking
 widgets around a button widget and linking them together with widget
 messages -- the widgets may be found at: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/

 The approach appears to be working out well and has several advantages:
 -- each widget is kept simple
 -- intelligent choice of defaults is, therefore, possible
 -- avoids unnecessary complexity in the parameters to the button widget
 -- resulting buttons can carry out quite complex user actions.

 I won't be able to join the discussion due to the poor quality of my
 internet connection, but would appreciate discussion with respect the
 concept of stacking widgets around a button; especially any foreseen
 limitations of this approach.

 I don't wish to go too far down a road that might, in the long run, prove
 to be wasted effort (and drag others with me who are now adopting some of
 these widgets.)

 regards

 On Monday, July 7, 2014 1:46:28 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 TiddlyWiki Hangout #53 will be tomorrow, Tuesday 8th July at 4pm BST:

 https://plus.google.com/events/cb9dr8725aaajqhoha9nljekslg

 If you've any questions or topics for discussion, please reply here, or
 use the QA button on the video preview at the page above.

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Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] CycleTags button in TW5?

2014-07-08 Thread cmari

Stephan, I somhow missed this illustration when you first posted it. It
was really helpful - thanks! Also, once I saw it, I was reminded of one of
your earlier illustrations here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topicsearchin/tiddlywiki/myvar/tiddlywiki/4Hlv2Sn5TYc

Working through the specific cycle tags example with the benefit of your
general illustrations and Matabele's definitions and code tweaks has been a
great way to increase my own understanding of both the SetWidget and the
MacroCallWidget. So thanks again to both of you!
(As a non-expert, I'm never sure whether documentation is missing or
whether I'm simply not getting the full benefit of existing documentation
because I don't understand what I'm seeing).
cmari

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Stephan Hradek stephan.hra...@gmail.com
wrote:

Can you upload your wiki because this absolutely makes no sense.

When I put this into the current tiddlywiki.com wiki:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_exDJ0BValY/U7OZVwOZWQI/AOQ/C3qudpMdVZ0/s1600/Bild+16.png
\define test(now)

|Brackets |$(now)$ |
|None |$now$ |

\end

! with a set

$set name=now value=I'm from a set

test I'm a parameter

/$set

! without set

test I'm a parameter

I get

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_exDJ0BValY/U7OZVwOZWQI/AOQ/C3qudpMdVZ0/s1600/Bild+16.png

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Re: [tw] Re: TW 5.0.13 File Size Proformance

2014-07-08 Thread Xavier Cazin

Hi Michael,

AFAIK, any size difference between an empty TW and yours (provided that
they have the same TW version) can only come from plugins and/or your own
tiddlers. Once you made sure that the plugins were under control (via the
Plugins tab of the Control Panel), you may want to *split your wiki file
into individual tiddler files* so that you can look at their respective
sizes.

For that, you need to install the NodeJS version
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js:[[Installing%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js]]%20HelloThere%20GettingStarted%20Upgrading%20Features%20Community%20RoadMap%20Docs
then on the command line:

- init a new TW folder myTWfolder with *server*-related plugins

tiddlywiki ./myTWfolder --init server

- split up your standalone file into ./myTWfolder/

tiddlywiki ./myTWfolder --load ~/Downloads/zjqLKRb8.html

1. list all the tiddler files sorted by revert order of size

ls -lSr ./myTWfolder/tiddlers/

Cheers,

-- Xavier Cazin

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Michael michael.ra...@infrafrontier.eu
wrote:

Deleting HistoryList brought the file size down from 9.8 MB to 7.5 MB.
Deleting 4 PDFs that I dumped in and forgot about brought me down to 5.3
MB.The empty 5.1.13 is 915 KB. I wonder whether the delta all comes from my
708 tiddlers, or whether there are other goodies like HistoryList that blow
up file size?

Cheers,
Michael

On Thursday, July 3, 2014 3:18:30 PM UTC+2, Michael wrote:

Would it be a good idea to have a way to 'estimate the size of individual
tiddlers' (knowing that we are talking about one file here!)? Get somehow
an indication which particular portions of your TW contribute most to file
size?

I use TW5 as a project management tool. It has currently about 10MB (708
tiddlers excluding shadows and tiddlers, only two small pictures). It
starts to get sluggish on my older notebook, and on my iPad 3 it takes
about 20 secs to load and about 10 secs to save a tiddler. I toyed with the
idea of using an encrypted TW for a personal diary including photos, but my
iPad doesn't take that.

I had no idea about this HistoryList tiddler and will hurry to delete it!

Cheers,
Michael

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 5:24:25 AM UTC+2, Chemaster wrote:

I have a Tiddly Wiki 5.0.13 file that has 101 Tiddliers and is 3.7 meg
in size encrypted. Of coarse the blank size was around point .8 meg or so.
I currently have a few images embed within the program but will cut back
more and more if possible. I am not using any addon's will have no plans of
using any.

The file will be used locally on a hard drive but I plan on expanding it
to around 500 - 1000 Tiddliers' total.

Currently there are no proformance issues but given this situation
should I expect some later on? Should I do certain now in advance to
prevent issues?

Thanks,

Chemaster

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How do I stop automatic link creation?

2014-07-08 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki

As long as you are modifying the handling of camelcase, could you give us 
an easy option to disable it completely? As someone who works in room A304H 
with my friend McMullin about matters concerning the chemistry of H2S and 
H2O for such companies as ExxonMobil, I can safely say that I've had to 
over-ride the camelcase hundreds of times for every time I've had a use for 
it. I have modified the tiddler that drives the interpretation of camelcase 
but an option would be a much better answer.

Stephen

On Sunday, July 6, 2014 10:00:42 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Michael michae...@infrafrontier.eu 
 javascript: wrote:

 I always wondered, why words containing hyphens (e.g. Ctrl-A) are 
 considered as WikiLinks.


 There's been some discussion on this:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/337

 As I commented on the ticket, I think that camelcase detection should be 
 much more conservative, and shouldn't consider underscore and dashes to be 
 letters.

 I'll try to sort this ticket out for 5.0.14.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy




  


 To create WikiLinks from words that are written in CamelCase makes 
 absolute sense, since these words are arbitrarily written in that way, and 
 CamelCase is an established way of 'marking up' specific words, e.g. 
 variables, when programming. Words with hyphens, on the other hand, are 
 rather abundant in certain languages, such as German.

 Rather than having to disable WikiLinks altogether or case by case when 
 writing in a language that contains many hyphenated words, wouldn't it make 
 more sense to exclude them completely from the CamelCase rule?

 Cheers,
 Michael


 On Saturday, July 5, 2014 3:23:08 PM UTC+2, Thameera Senanayaka wrote:

 Hi all,

 Been using TW5 for about two months and I'm really happy with it.

 One small question: When I type in some strings like two words combined 
 with a hyphen (eg: Ctrl-A) TW5 thinks it's a link and shows as a hyperlink 
 when viewing. 

 Is there a way I can tell it to mark it as a link only when I explicitly 
 mark using square brackets?

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[tw] Re: Codeblock within numbered list (and formatting inside codeblock)

2014-07-08 Thread Stephan Hradek

# First step
# Second step preCommands for second step
/pre
# Third step

In a pre block no formatting is possible, as  far as I know.

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[tw] Tiddler content disappearing

Hi all

I created a regular tiddler with the content below. In view mode, the 
content does not appear. I have never encountered this before. Why is this, 
and what do I do about it?

ul$list filter=[tag[October]!title[ExcludeThis]]
li$link to={{!!title}}$view field=title/$link/li
/list/ul


''Also''

*Text
*Text
*Text

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Re: [tw] Tiddler content disappearing

Hi Dave

I think it's because the /$list widget isn't being closed: you've got
/list as a typo.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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 Hi all

 I created a regular tiddler with the content below. In view mode, the
 content does not appear. I have never encountered this before. Why is this,
 and what do I do about it?

 ul$list filter=[tag[October]!title[ExcludeThis]]
 li$link to={{!!title}}$view field=title/$link/li
 /list/ul


 ''Also''

 *Text
 *Text
 *Text

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Re: [tw] Tiddler content disappearing

Whoa! Thanks for that, Jeremy! FYI it still works unclosed like that if you
don't put text below it...I will go back and correct my mistakes. Sorry I
missed the Hangout. I am extremely busy with reports and with learning
upcoming new responsibilities. That is why I am reorganizing my to do and
info...


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wrote:

 Hi Dave

 I think it's because the /$list widget isn't being closed: you've got
 /list as a typo.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 Hi all

 I created a regular tiddler with the content below. In view mode, the
 content does not appear. I have never encountered this before. Why is this,
 and what do I do about it?

 ul$list filter=[tag[October]!title[ExcludeThis]]
 li$link to={{!!title}}$view field=title/$link/li
 /list/ul


 ''Also''

 *Text
 *Text
 *Text

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[tw] Re: Codeblock within numbered list (and formatting inside codeblock)

2014-07-08 Thread Marc Laflamme

I guess that's fine (minor).

Major thing is having the list number continue after the code blocks... 
Ruins the flow.

On Tuesday, 8 July 2014 13:26:10 UTC-4, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 # First step
 # Second step preCommands for second step
 /pre
 # Third step

 In a pre block no formatting is possible, as  far as I know.


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Re: [tw] Tiddler content disappearing

Actually, there was also another mistake - I didn't close the $view,
either.

Corrected content:

ul$list filter=[tag[October]!title[ExcludeThis]]li$link
to={{!!title}}$view field=title//$link/li/$list/ul

''Also''

*Text
*Text
*Text


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 Whoa! Thanks for that, Jeremy! FYI it still works unclosed like that if
 you don't put text below it...I will go back and correct my mistakes. Sorry
 I missed the Hangout. I am extremely busy with reports and with learning
 upcoming new responsibilities. That is why I am reorganizing my to do and
 info...


 On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Dave

 I think it's because the /$list widget isn't being closed: you've got
 /list as a typo.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 Hi all

 I created a regular tiddler with the content below. In view mode, the
 content does not appear. I have never encountered this before. Why is this,
 and what do I do about it?

 ul$list filter=[tag[October]!title[ExcludeThis]]
 li$link to={{!!title}}$view field=title/$link/li
 /list/ul


 ''Also''

 *Text
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[tw] tank now has tw5 5.0.14-prerelease

2014-07-08 Thread chris . dent



I've just updated the tank code and https://tank.peermore.com so that
it uses TW5 5.0.14-prerelease for compositions based on TW5.

If you have no idea what any of that means have a look at:

   https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/docs/Features

And if you have any questions feel free to ask me.

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[tw] [TW5] Multi-level filtered lists syntax help?

2014-07-08 Thread Matthew Petty

I use TW5 to keep track of tasks. Tiddlers that are tasks are tagged 
task. I have 2 fields, p for priority and tasklist for work, home 
etc.
How can I generate a list of tasks, broken down into nested lists of 
work, personal and so on, with the tasks below sorted by priority?

Like this:
*Tasklist: work*
_ task a (priority 1)
_ task e (priority 1)
_ task c (priority 2)
_ task b (priority 2)
_ task d (priority 5)

*Tasklist: personal*
_ task x (priority 1)
_ task z (priority 2)
_ task y (priority 3)


This is what I have so far. It doesn't work, of course, but I at least 
wanted you to know I was trying.

$list 
filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]each[tasklist]]

! Tasklist: $view field=tasklist/
$list 
filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]]

$checkbox tag=done
$link to={{!!title}}
$view field=title/
/$link (priority $view field=p/)
/$checkbox
/$list
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[tw] Re: [TW5] WYSIWYG WikiText Editor plugin?

2014-07-08 Thread Helge Philipp

Is there by chance also a way to integrate a visual editor (or even better 
something simple, similar to WikiBar 
http://aiddlywiki.sourceforge.net/wikibar_demo_2.htmlor the 
QuickEditToolbar)?

Helge.

On Monday, June 30, 2014 7:46:18 AM UTC+2, Matabele wrote:

 Hi

 There are some great visual editors for markdown, such as: 
 https://stackedit.io/ -- the markdown documents may be used in TW5 with 
 the Markdown plugin.

 regards 

 On Monday, June 30, 2014 5:01:06 AM UTC+2, Finn wrote:

 Does anyone know of a WYSIWYG WikiText editor plugin compatible with the 
 most recent version of TW5?

 I am looking for something similar to buggyj's HTML VisualEditor 
 http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com/#VisualEditorDemo:VisualEditorDemobut, 
 of course, for WikiText.

 Thank you in advance,
  
 -Finn



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level filtered lists syntax help?

2014-07-08 Thread Dominic Brocher

Hi Matthew

You have to filter the inner list with the current tasklist value. Try this

$list filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]each[tasklist]]

! Tasklist: $view field=tasklist/
$list filter=[tasklist{!!tasklist}!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]]

$checkbox tag=done
$link to={{!!title}}
$view field=title/
/$link (priority $view field=p/)
/$checkbox
/$list
/$list


Regards,
Domnic


Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2014 22:34:15 UTC+2 schrieb Matthew Petty:

 I use TW5 to keep track of tasks. Tiddlers that are tasks are tagged 
 task. I have 2 fields, p for priority and tasklist for work, home 
 etc.
 How can I generate a list of tasks, broken down into nested lists of 
 work, personal and so on, with the tasks below sorted by priority?

 Like this:
 *Tasklist: work*
 _ task a (priority 1)
 _ task e (priority 1)
 _ task c (priority 2)
 _ task b (priority 2)
 _ task d (priority 5)

 *Tasklist: personal*
 _ task x (priority 1)
 _ task z (priority 2)
 _ task y (priority 3)


 This is what I have so far. It doesn't work, of course, but I at least 
 wanted you to know I was trying.

 $list 
 filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]each[tasklist]]

 ! Tasklist: $view field=tasklist/
 $list 
 filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]]

 $checkbox tag=done
 $link to={{!!title}}
 $view field=title/
 /$link (priority $view field=p/)
 /$checkbox
 /$list
 /$list






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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level filtered lists syntax help?

2014-07-08 Thread Matthew Petty

That did it!
Danke viel mal Dominic!




On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Dominic Brocher dominicbroc...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Matthew

 You have to filter the inner list with the current tasklist value. Try this

 $list filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]
 each[tasklist]]


 ! Tasklist: $view field=tasklist/
 $list filter=[tasklist{!!tasklist}!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]]


 $checkbox tag=done
 $link to={{!!title}}
 $view field=title/
 /$link (priority $view field=p/)
 /$checkbox
 /$list
 /$list


 Regards,
 Domnic


 Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2014 22:34:15 UTC+2 schrieb Matthew Petty:

 I use TW5 to keep track of tasks. Tiddlers that are tasks are tagged
 task. I have 2 fields, p for priority and tasklist for work, home
 etc.
 How can I generate a list of tasks, broken down into nested lists of
 work, personal and so on, with the tasks below sorted by priority?

 Like this:
 *Tasklist: work*
 _ task a (priority 1)
 _ task e (priority 1)
 _ task c (priority 2)
 _ task b (priority 2)
 _ task d (priority 5)

 *Tasklist: personal*
 _ task x (priority 1)
 _ task z (priority 2)
 _ task y (priority 3)


 This is what I have so far. It doesn't work, of course, but I at least
 wanted you to know I was trying.

 $list filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]each[tasklist]]

 ! Tasklist: $view field=tasklist/
 $list filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]]

 $checkbox tag=done
 $link to={{!!title}}
 $view field=title/
 /$link (priority $view field=p/)
 /$checkbox
 /$list
 /$list




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[tw] Re: [TW5] Newbie: Line-break question

2014-07-08 Thread Neil Griffin

Sorry - coming slightly late to this discussion.  I just started using TW a 
couple of weeks ago, and still getting to grips.  Really liking it so far, 
but much to learn to make sure it stays useful as my tiddlercount grows.

This single linebreak issue has been bugging me too.  I can see the benefit 
of treating a single linebreak as whitespace, and it makes sense for that 
to be the default, and br //usually// does what I want, but it is really 
slow to type, as well as ugly.  Is it possible to implement a 
quicker-to-type and more WikiText-like syntax?  I'm thinking something like 
a backslash-terminated line.

Cheers,

Neil.


On Wednesday, 30 April 2014 14:25:54 UTC+1, Thomas Guldstrand Larsen wrote:

 Hi,

 Warning: newbie here...

 When editing a tiddler, I write e.g

 This is line one.
 This in line two.

 When saving the tiddler it becomes

 This is line one. This is line two.

 So I try:

 This is line one.

 This in line two.

 and it becomes:

 This is line one.

 This in line two.

 How to prevent that? I just want the formatting to be as I wrote it 
 originally...I don't want This is line two to be in a new paragraph.

 Is there any WYSIWYG editors for TW5?

 Thanks




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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level filtered lists syntax help?

2014-07-08 Thread Matthew Petty

I have a further question. Is there a way to do all this just with tags, 
and not with fields? Is it possible to filter on tags, but only looking for 
the first few characters of the tag? Like you can do with titles.
The problem is that I would have to go back and set all the fields on my 
task tiddlers. It's easier to set tags in bulk, or with a checkbox.


On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 2:28:10 PM UTC-7, Matthew Petty wrote:

 That did it!
 Danke viel mal Dominic!




 On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Dominic Brocher dominicbroc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hi Matthew

 You have to filter the inner list with the current tasklist value. Try 
 this

 $list filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]
 each[tasklist]]


 ! Tasklist: $view field=tasklist/
 $list filter=[tasklist{!!tasklist}!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]]


 $checkbox tag=done
 $link to={{!!title}}
 $view field=title/
 /$link (priority $view field=p/)
 /$checkbox
 /$list
 /$list


 Regards,
 Domnic


 Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2014 22:34:15 UTC+2 schrieb Matthew Petty:

 I use TW5 to keep track of tasks. Tiddlers that are tasks are tagged 
 task. I have 2 fields, p for priority and tasklist for work, home 
 etc.
 How can I generate a list of tasks, broken down into nested lists of 
 work, personal and so on, with the tasks below sorted by priority?

 Like this:
 *Tasklist: work*
 _ task a (priority 1)
 _ task e (priority 1)
 _ task c (priority 2)
 _ task b (priority 2)
 _ task d (priority 5)

 *Tasklist: personal*
 _ task x (priority 1)
 _ task z (priority 2)
 _ task y (priority 3)


 This is what I have so far. It doesn't work, of course, but I at least 
 wanted you to know I was trying.

 $list filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]each[tasklist]]

 ! Tasklist: $view field=tasklist/
 $list filter=[!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]
 tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[p]]

 $checkbox tag=done
 $link to={{!!title}}
 $view field=title/
 /$link (priority $view field=p/)
 /$checkbox
 /$list
 /$list




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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level filtered lists syntax help?

2014-07-08 Thread Stephan Hradek



Am Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2014 00:04:45 UTC+2 schrieb Matthew Petty:

 I have a further question. Is there a way to do all this just with tags, 
 and not with fields? Is it possible to filter on tags, but only looking for 
 the first few characters of the tag? Like you can do with titles.
 The problem is that I would have to go back and set all the fields on my 
 task tiddlers. It's easier to set tags in bulk, or with a checkbox.


If it's just ONE tag that each of the tiddlers has, it's easy:

field:tags/^FirstCharacters/

If there is possibly more than one tag per tiddler, but none of them has 
spaces, try:

field:tags/(^| )FirstCharacters/

And finally, if spaces in tags are occuring:

field:tags/(^|\[\[| )FirstCharacters/

But be aware that the last one might give you false hits! Example:

If a tag a b exists and you want to find tag b, this one will also find 
a b.


The trick is to make the filter handle the tags-field like a normal field 
and to search it using a regular expression.




 

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Re: [tw] RSS support for TW5?

2014-07-08 Thread HansWobbe

For the record ...

+1 for RSS support (but not rush, in my case)


On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:53:56 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Tom

 I think you're the first person to ask about RSS support for TW5. I do 
 intend to implement it, and have created a ticket for you to track it:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/677

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



  

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to create accountability board?

2014-07-08 Thread Jimmy Liew

Hi all,
I finally got what I want!  Thanks everyone for your response and 
information.


On Monday, 7 July 2014 13:33:01 UTC+8, Jimmy Liew wrote:

 Hi All,

 I would like to create something like 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#Latest:Latest; which it looks like an 
 accountability board or pin-board to me.  Can anyone guide me on how to do 
 it?
 Thanks.




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[tw] Re: GettingStarted tiddler is zealous at startup

2014-07-08 Thread Richard Smith

I just tried to replicate this. Here is what I did.

1. Download 'empty.html' (actually called string-of-garbage.html)
2. Rename string-of-garbage to test9july2.html
3. Open in Firefox (Allow the script to run)
4. Open control panel and delete GettingStarted
5. Close control panel and click global save
6. Reload the page

Expected behaviour is: GettingStarted doesn't appear
Actual behaviour is: GettingStarted appears

Reason: The URL I'm reloading 
(file:///Users/smith/Desktop/test9july2.html#GettingStarted:GettingStarted) 
still contains a reference to GettingStarted as it was open when I reloaded 
the page.

Furthermore...

If I create a tiddler 'HelloThere' and add it to the list of default 
tiddlers in control panel, so that it looks like this;

HelloThere
 [!is[system]has[modified]!sort[modified]limit[25]]


and then close all tiddlers and reload the page, I don't see any tiddlers 
at all - because I'm reloading a URL that ends wth #: - if I remove these 
two characters and reload the page, I get the expected result.

Of course, if I close the wiki altogether and then re-open it from the 
file, it behaves as expected, so perhaps you are experiencing a different 
issue?

Regards,
Richard

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:14:01 PM UTC+10, Clément Aymé wrote:


 I've just followed the GettingStarted advice: 

 *Stop this message appearing by changing the default tiddlers under the 
 Basics tab. *

 And saved globally (note there is no tick to save $:/ControlPanel tiddler) 

 using the download icon. 
 But with no luck.

 When I try to edit $:/DefaultTiddlers I got a dialog box that warns about 
 future updates... 
 So what ?


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[tw] [TW5] How to set background color for only one cell

2014-07-08 Thread James

Hi All,

I am looking for way to change the background color for only one cell, NOT 
the entire table.  Thanks

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Create and set values of fields in multiple tiddlers at once?

Hi Matthew

Try something like this (for more values, use additional radio widgets):

$list filter=[filter[expression]]

{{!!title}}$radio field=taskist value=workWork/$radio$radio 
field=tasklist value=homeHome/$radio
/$list

You might want to put that in a table to align the columns (and remove the 
labels from the radio widgets.)

regards

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:05:05 AM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:

 I would like to take a bunch of tiddlers, and create fields and set the 
 value for those fields, all at the same time.
 For example, I want to set a list of tiddlers so they have a field called 
 tasklist with the value work, and another list so they have a field 
 called tasklist with the value work.
 Is it possible to use the checkbox widget to set fields?


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Create and set values of fields in multiple tiddlers at once?

Hi Matthew

Sorry, forgot to mention -- you must use html like this:

table
trthTitle/ththWork/ththHome/th/tr
$list filter=[filter[expression]]
tr
td{{!!title}}/tdtd$radio field=tasklist value=work/$radio
/tdtd$radio field=tasklist value=home/$radio/td
/tr
/$list
/table

I made a task management app along this lines -- you might find some of my 
techniques useful: http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/
(an empty version here: http://gtid.tiddlyspot.com/)

regards

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:05:05 AM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:

 I would like to take a bunch of tiddlers, and create fields and set the 
 value for those fields, all at the same time.
 For example, I want to set a list of tiddlers so they have a field called 
 tasklist with the value work, and another list so they have a field 
 called tasklist with the value work.
 Is it possible to use the checkbox widget to set fields?


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Newbie: Line-break question