[tw] Re: Using a drop-down menu to set a variable or field value?

2014-10-23 Thread Stephan Hradek
Hi Richard!

I agree with you and this is a symptom of the fact that the documentation 
is mainly written by programmers and not by users.

Why not head over to github 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/6ea18cb61abaaf32847a0b7946d442cb04552bd9/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/widgets/SelectWidget.tidand
 
fix the documentation? Change it to what *you *think would be best for 
users like you.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
Hi Robert,

Can you replicate the behaviour with a fresh empty.html from tiddlywiki.com?
-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Advice on Node.js Deployment and Wiki Performance

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
Hi Rick,

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:35:14 PM UTC+2, Rick Williams wrote:


 There is still the option, to create a completely static version of all 
 tiddlers, no javascript involved. 
 This could be served entirely by the nginx server. 
 So every tiddler is a single page.  There would be the need for a 
 different layout, because at the moment the static version uses the same 
 layout as the js version. 


 Can you point me instructions for deployment of a static environment built 
 from a standard TW5 wiki? 


If you have a look at the tw5.com   tiddlywiki.info  file [1], you can see 
the static build section. 

The first step/line: .. creates a static.html file, that is like a 
startpage. So imo it's important to have a TOC there :)
second line: .. creates an alltiddlers.html. ... As the name says the whole 
TW in one tiddler (no js) So imo its nice to use the browser search
third line: .. creates all tiddlers as single tiddlers into a static/ 
directory
forth line: .. creates the needed CSS file. 

I'm using the exact same settings [2], to create a static version of the 
german translation. So you should be able to just copy paste the stuff into 
your 
tiddlywiki.info to test it. 

build static command:   node tiddlywiki.js yourEdition --build  static 
build all command: node tiddlywiki.js yourEdition --build  

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To build your own static layout you have to have a look at the 
$:/core/templates/ tiddlers [3].
So it would be possible to create your own branding :) Template handling 
can be a bit tricky. .. But its all html5 + tw5 wikitext syntax.
Used elements are html, macro definitions, filters and transclusions. Docs 
can be found at tiddlywiki.com 
But imo this will be the second step. 



I also talked with Jeremy at the last hangout #65 [4] about the difference 
between image tiddler lazy loading and images using _canonical_uri
The link starts at the position and the discussion is about 10 minutes. 
There will be some background info, if you want to see it.

Tiddler lazy loading would have been a solution for your too but I simply 
forgot about it. 
After our last discussion I think this mechanism fits better to your 
workflow, 
and would eliminate the conversion from fat image tiddlers to skinny 
tiddlers using the _canonical_uri. 
images can be fat but would be loaded in a second step. ... see the video

have fun!
mario
PS: any success on loading speed? Please keep us updated. 

[1] 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/editions/tw5.com/tiddlywiki.info#L54
[2] 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/editions/de-AT/tiddlywiki.info#L25
[3] https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/core/templates
[4] 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ4feiD6iuYfeature=player_detailpage#t=4144

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread Stephan Hradek
Did you see this thread: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O_ivNgMyEHw/YQo-9_l7snEJ

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Advice on Node.js Deployment and Wiki Performance

2014-10-23 Thread PMario


 build static command:   node tiddlywiki.js yourEdition --build  static 
 build all command: node tiddlywiki.js yourEdition --build  


don't forget to define --output directory 

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[tw] Re: Using a drop-down menu to set a variable or field value?

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
There is the info, how to improve the docs. We try to make it easy but the 
barrier seems to be very high :)
The link contains 3 videos, that should show, how to user the github web UI

http://tiddlywiki.com/#Improving%20TiddlyWiki%20Documentation 

Also feedback for the process is very welcome :)

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread PMario

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:56:38 AM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Did you see this thread: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O_ivNgMyEHw/YQo-9_l7snEJ


So is your TW in a dropbox folder?
-m 

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[tw] Re: Some thoughts on SVG animation, and a question

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
This may be of interest: 

CSSconf EU 2014 | Sara Soueidan: Styling and Animating Scalable Vector 
Graphics with CSS 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf7L8X6ZBu8

It's 30 minutes. But imo you will need to see it several times She 
talks very very fast  :))

-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
I've seen this behaviour as well. I was working strictly locally at the 
time. The wiki appeared to hang up for a while and after it came back to 
normal started giving me that same error message whenever I tried to save 
or modify a tiddler.

To rectify the problem, I downloaded a new copy of the Empty wiki and 
imported everything from the misbehaving wiki. That gave me the same error 
message. So I tried again and imported everything except the last tiddler I 
had been working on. That worked and the new wiki performed normally. To 
restore the last tiddler, I opened both the misbehaving wiki and the new 
one, opened the last tiddler I had edited and manually copied the contents 
to a new tiddler in the new wiki. I closed both wikis. The misbehaving wiki 
retained its problematic behaviour whilst the new version has worked just 
fine.

I concluded, rightly or wrongly, that the problem was a corrupted tiddler. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread Robert Edwards
..and I hit Post too quickly. Meant to add: Thanks!!!

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:48:59 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:

 @Stephan -- No, I hadn't seen that thread. The symptom sounds the same but 
 it's interesting that I never had the issue in TWC, and never in TW5 until 
 yesterday after I upgraded. I think Stephen Kimmel (below) may be on to 
 something.

 @PMario -- No, the TW is local, no Dropbox involved.

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 5:17:55 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:


 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:56:38 AM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Did you see this thread: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O_ivNgMyEHw/YQo-9_l7snEJ


 So is your TW in a dropbox folder?
 -m 



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread Robert Edwards
I have not tried with a fresh empty. I have replicated with a fresh 
upgraded (both upgraded online and by downloading the upgrader and doing it 
locally.)

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:21:46 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 Hi Robert,

 Can you replicate the behaviour with a fresh empty.html from 
 tiddlywiki.com?
 -m


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[tw] [TW5] Proposals concerning layout (was Please explain pagetemplate and overall structure)

2014-10-23 Thread Mat
Your kind answers here have been helpful and led to a few aha moments! 
Thank you all!

It also made me realize something...

@Jeremy

I propose that the How to- guides in the sidebar Contents tab are of 
limited use without prior knowledge on how to change the more 
infrastructurial aspects such as the pagelayout, particularly for 
experienced TW*C* users. Let me explain:

It is reasonalbe to assume many experienced TWC users have a few main 
TWC's that they've consciously designed and honed to perfection over many 
years. So, in order to upgrade to TW5 (to take advantage of TW5's 
additional power, that's why) the first thing they must do is to re-design 
the overall TW5 layout. This is before content design with filters etc, 
as detailed in the current How to guieds on tw.com, become relevant at 
all. The current (and wonderful!!!) guides assume you're past this need.

Obviously, the skilled coders here don't have this problem and those 
completely fresh TW don't have any honed TWC's... but I think this is a 
problem for experienced TW users who are not good coders. Not to mention 
those who love TW but just wish to use it rather than fiddle a lot. As 
noted, after years of tiddlyfiddling they know how they want a TW to be 
laid out for their purposes.

A few guides have come up on these major layout aspects, often meshed 
into other help topics, by very generous individuals like Ton Gerner, Dave 
Gifford, Stephan Hradek and Mario Pietsch (am I missing somebody?) but 
still it's not exactly simple. And there's the uncertainty that their 
guides are not up to date/valid.

So here are some ideas that I think would benefit quite a few:

1) Some official instructions dealing with things like pagetemplates and 
overall layout.
2) ...or how to create custom templates as plugins
3) A few optional core pagetemplates, analog to the themes, set via Control 
Panel.
4) A kind of dynamic pagetemplate set via Control Panel

The idea with official is that there's incentive to keep it updated and 
many people can help refine it.
Regarding #4 I have included a picture to illustrate the concept. 
BTW, in TWC there is this http://classic.tiddlywiki.com/#Configuration 
nice (albeit static) overview.

Thank you for listening. I always feel embarassed to say Somebody else 
ought to do something but hopefully my suggestions contribute something 
even if they're not in the form of code. 


:-)


On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:04:17 AM UTC+2, Evolena wrote:


 The commands/markup for defining the parts are different - they are in 
 html in TWC but in TW5 they are in a Jeremy-defined markup language 
 (based on and very close to established markup language which name escapes 
 me)


 In TW5, all is tiddlers. So the ui elements are also tiddlers, written in 
 WikiText. See the shadow system tiddlers beginning with $:/core/ui/
  

 In TW5 the tiddler PageTemplate is named $:/core/ui/PageTemplate. The 
 meat of this is this part:

 $list 
 filter=[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/PageTemplate]!has[draft.of]] 
 variable=listItem
 $transclude tiddler=listItem/
 /$list

 ...which filters out all tiddlers tagged $:/tags/PageTemplate. Not 
 sure what that variable listItem is/does.


 It's a way to access each item of the list inside the ListWidget. By 
 default it is the currentTiddler variable, but you may want not to modify 
 this currentTiddler variable to use both the currentTiddler (the tiddler 
 where you are) and the listItem (the item of the list you are processing). 
 Not sure my explanation is clear, though.
  

 It is clever to use a filter in the pagetemplate rather than hard coding 
 which page elements to use because this lets us add new elements without 
 actually messing this this pagetemplate tiddler but instead simply by 
 adding the tag.

 The result from the filter are these:

 $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/alerts 
 $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/sidebar 
 $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story 
 $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/topleftbar 
 $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/toprightbar

 Now, these elements are placed in the right place on the screen either by 
 magic or by brain gamma rays from Jeremy. My best guess is magic, because I 
 cannot imagine how brain rays would penetrate my bunker and with magic it 
 would all make perfect sense and this would also explain a lot of other 
 questions I have.


 For the PageTemplate especially, it's CSS magic, in the vanilla theme (
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fthemes%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fvanilla%2Fbase).

 /*
 ** Page layout
 */

 .tc-topbar {
 position: fixed;
 z-index: 1200;
 }

 .tc-topbar-left {
 left: 29px;
 top: 5px;
 }

 .tc-topbar-right {
 top: 5px;
 right: 29px;
 }

 .tc-sidebar-header .tc-sidebar-lists p {
 margin-top: 3px;
 margin-bottom: 3px;
 }

 .tc-page-controls {
 margin-top: 14px;
 font-size: 1.5em;
 }

 .tc-story-river {
 position: relative;
 }

 @media (max-width: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/
 sidebarbreakpoint}}) {

 

[tw] [TW5] Proposals concerning layout (was Please explain pagetemplate and overall structure)

2014-10-23 Thread Mat
 Your kind answers here have been helpful and led to a few aha moments! 
Thank you all!

It also made me realize something...

@Jeremy

I propose that the How to- guides in the sidebar Contents tab are of 
limited use without prior knowledge on how to change the more 
infrastructurial aspects such as the pagelayout, particularly for 
experienced TW*C* users. Let me explain:

It is reasonalbe to assume many experienced TWC users have a few main 
TWC's that they've consciously designed and honed to perfection over many 
years. So, in order to upgrade to TW5 (to take advantage of TW5's 
additional power, that's why) the first thing they must do is to re-design 
the overall TW5 layout. This is before content design with filters etc, 
as detailed in the current How to guieds on tw.com, become relevant at 
all. The current (and wonderful!!!) guides assume you're past this need.

Obviously, the skilled coders here don't have this problem and those 
completely fresh TW don't have any honed TWC's... but I think this is a 
problem for experienced TW users who are not good coders. Not to mention 
those who love TW but just wish to use it rather than fiddle a lot. As 
noted, after years of tiddlyfiddling they know how they want a TW to be 
laid out for their purposes.

A few guides have come up on these major layout aspects, often meshed 
into other help topics, by very generous individuals like Ton Gerner, Dave 
Gifford, Stephan Hradek and Mario Pietsch (am I missing somebody?) but 
still it's not exactly simple. And there's the uncertainty that their 
guides are not up to date/valid.

So here are some ideas that I think would benefit quite a few:

1) Some official instructions dealing with things like pagetemplates and 
overall layout.
2) ...or how to create custom templates as plugins
3) A few optional core pagetemplates, analog to the themes, set via Control 
Panel.
4) A kind of dynamic pagetemplate set via Control Panel

The idea with official is that there's incentive to keep it updated and 
many people can help refine it.
Regarding #4 I have included a picture to illustrate the concept. 
BTW, in TWC there is this http://classic.tiddlywiki.com/#Configuration 
nice (albeit static) overview.

Thank you for listening. I always feel embarassed to say Somebody else 
ought to do something but hopefully my suggestions contribute something 
even if they're not in the form of code. 


:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Proposals concerning layout (was Please explain pagetemplate and overall structure)

2014-10-23 Thread Mat
For some reason there seems to be a problem with the attached picture above 
so here's a direct link to it 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwJl9mZUnm6qYzFzYXdHNkRCd2M/view?usp=sharing
.
In case it can't be seen: it is basically a tiddler showing something 
similarish to this but with checkboxes directly in the elements of the 
image so that you can check which parts of the overall layout that you wish 
to be seen. That is only the basic concept. One could imagine an 
alternative checkbox with option for showing a slider button rather than 
completely hiding it. An interactive and graphic settings page for the 
overall layout of things.

:-)

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[tw] [TWC] Updating image preview when URL to image in textarea changes

2014-10-23 Thread whatever
Hi!

I'm trying to add preview to my InfoboxTablesPlugin (1). Basically, if you 
change the image in edit mode, the preview beneath the textarea where you 
enter the new URL would show the new picture. The plugin generates HTML 
output, so the code needs to be inserted there. Currently this is my 
onchange handler, where imageID is the ID of the img tag:
onchange=\this.defaultValue = this.value; document.getElementById(' + 
imageID + ').setAttribute('src',this.value);\

DOM structure:
div
textarea with the onchange handler/textarea
div for preview
img for preview
/div for preview
/div

When I added an alert at the end, it showed the new URL (interestingly, 
console.log showed nothing), but the image didn't change. How do I push the 
changes to the image? I suspect I need to refresh something, but I'm not 
sure what or how. Or do I need to push the changes (the entire new img tag 
with the new URL) to the div for preview?

I've set up a test (2).


(1) http://infoboxes.tiddlyspot.com
(2) http://infoboxestest.tiddlyspot.com/

w

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread Robert Edwards
I had to reboot my laptop this morning after an unrelated sw update. 
Afterward I reopened my TW and recreated the tiddler I was trying to create 
yesterday -- same title, same content which was copied and pasted from the 
same email as yesterday. It saved just fine this morning.

Very frustrating! I hate intermittent bugs.

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:51:44 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:

 I have not tried with a fresh empty. I have replicated with a fresh 
 upgraded (both upgraded online and by downloading the upgrader and doing it 
 locally.)

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:21:46 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 Hi Robert,

 Can you replicate the behaviour with a fresh empty.html from 
 tiddlywiki.com?
 -m



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Re: [tw] Re: Some thoughts on SVG animation, and a question

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:46:22 PM UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:

 Its reminded me about a great feature of TW. Put a video in a tiddler, 
 make notes using new here


Yes, but for videos, imo it should be a newJournal here with a delta time 
stamp. ... 
I think this would save me a lot of time annotating the hangout videos :)

But I think the video contains some very good hints, how to use animated 
and responsive SVGs

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread PMario


  Very frustrating! I hate intermittent bugs.


That makes them hard to catch :) ... Keep us informed.
May be you can nail it. ... and back up from time to time :)
-m



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:00:52 PM UTC+2, Stephen Kimmel wrote:

 I concluded, rightly or wrongly, that the problem was a corrupted tiddler. 


I don't think so. ... Windows sometimes locks files an forgets to unlock 
them, even if the program who locked it is closed already.  
I've had this behaviour several times, in a different context. For me the 
file explorer sometimes causes this behaviour. 

-m

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Re: [tw] TW5: splitting a TW file based on tags

2014-10-23 Thread Jon
Hi, this is exactly what I want to do. 
Could you please give some instructions of where to put the snippet and how 
to execute it?

Thanks
Jon

On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 12:29:48 UTC+1, HowardM wrote:

 Hi Jeremy

 That was great - your snippet allowed me to split my large file into seven 
 separate files in 20 minutes.

 Thanks for your help

 Howard

 On 22 Oct 2014, at 11:20, Jeremy Ruston jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hi Howard

 Here's a JavaScript snippet to delete all tiddlers matching a filter. It 
 uses the filter string currently loaded in the advanced search tiddler so 
 you can preview which tiddlers will be deleted:

 var 
 tiddlers=$tw.wiki.filterTiddlers($tw.wiki.getTiddlerText($:/temp/advancedsearch));for(var
  
 t=0;ttiddlers.length;t++) {console.log(Deleting  + 
 tiddlers[t]);$tw.wiki.deleteTiddler(tiddlers[t])};console.log(tiddlers.length 
 +  tiddlers deleted);

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:47 PM, HowardM ma...@howardmorrison.plus.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I have a large file which is very slow to save individual tiddler edits 
 on my iPad - I gather this is a recognised issue with the current version 
 of the app which will be addressed in a future version of it.  In the 
 meantime, I would like to split the file based on tags, but cannot find a 
 way of doing so without individually dragging and dropping a very large 
 number of tiddlers.  Has anyone found a simple way of doing this ?

 I have previously applied a method using the Chrome Javascript console to 
 delete tiddlers defined in a filter - I cannot remember who posted this 
 advice - but this does not seem to work on TW5.1.2 - I just get 'invalid - 
 unexpected token' messages.

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[tw] Extendable calendar

2014-10-23 Thread RickL
I have been using the Extendable Calendar plugin from buggyj, but when I 
try to upgrade the TW it breaks the macro

This is TW5 using the plugin from bjtools.tiddlyspot.com

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
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[tw] Re: Some thoughts on SVG animation, and a question

2014-10-23 Thread Alex Hough
She's a marvellous speaker and seems to have cornered the area of SVG
challenges some stereotypes too I suspect.

That's feature you decribe -- to annotate video -- would be a wonderful
tool. Thinking about that competition on the hangout,  a wiki that could
help learning, a way to agregate, structure and refactor notes from
YouTube...


On the aminamted svg front, I was looking at the font awesome plugin - very
impressive.

Alex


On Thursday, 23 October 2014, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:46:22 PM UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:

 Its reminded me about a great feature of TW. Put a video in a tiddler,
 make notes using new here


 Yes, but for videos, imo it should be a newJournal here with a delta time
 stamp. ...
 I think this would save me a lot of time annotating the hangout videos :)

 But I think the video contains some very good hints, how to use animated
 and responsive SVGs

 have fun!
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Re: [tw] TW5: splitting a TW file based on tags

2014-10-23 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:28:58 AM UTC-7, Jon wrote:

 Hi, this is exactly what I want to do. 
 Could you please give some instructions of where to put the snippet and 
 how to execute it?


Open your browser's debugger console (ctrl-shift-J in Chrome).  Typically, 
to invoke javascript code from the console, you just type (or paste) the 
code into the input area, and press enter to execute.   The snippet of code 
that Jeremy provided should be copied/pasted as a single line of text. 
 That should do it.

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[tw] Re: Some thoughts on SVG animation, and a question

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:37:26 PM UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:


 On the aminamted svg front, I was looking at the font awesome plugin - 
 very impressive.


I like font awesome, but I prefer svg. So I'm happy, that Jeremy made it a 
first class citizen in TW.
There's also a very good article at css-tricks see: 
http://css-tricks.com/icon-fonts-vs-svg/ 

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[tw] Re: Extendable calendar

2014-10-23 Thread BJ
Hi Rick,
the implementation of dates as changed inside tiddlywiki (probably to 
support different languages) - I will update the macro. I will post a 
message here when It is available (should be either tonight or tomorrow).

cheers

BJ

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 I have been using the Extendable Calendar plugin from buggyj, but when I 
 try to upgrade the TW it breaks the macro

 This is TW5 using the plugin from bjtools.tiddlyspot.com

 Any help is appreciated.

 Thanks
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Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

2014-10-23 Thread Daniel
Hello Andrew
I am following your post from half a year ago. 
I mainly use a chromebook. Most of my docs are on the cloud and I like to 
access tiddlys from different browsers/computers too. I am using TW5, but 
it's more important for me to be able to edit and save easily on any 
computer, and I will switch to TW Classic if I can save tiddly files onto a 
cloud directory without manual intervention. ie I am waiting for 
TiddlyChrome that replicates TiddlyFox functionality. But I can't wait.

But I can't follow the conversation about  / understand  the plugin  User-Agent 
Switcher 
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg,
 
 Will the plugin allow me to do simple saves - akin to tiddlyfox - with TWC 
 in ChromeOS (chromebook : where not .jar files can run) ?

Thanks

Den onsdag den 12. marts 2014 18.19.48 UTC-4 skrev Andrew Ashling:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox). 
 So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The file 
 is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


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 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent 
 Switcher 
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
  
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few 
 more.

 And it works… The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS, 
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance. 
 It was announced in this forum 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ but is 
 not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure 
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere 
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can 
 use the unsigned jar included in the announcement). The single reported 
 problem does not appear to be TiddlySaver related.

 If the current TiddlySaver DOESN'T work for your setup but changing the 
 user-agent makes it work then there is a bug in TWC that needs to be fixed, 
 so please do try out the current TiddlySaver and report back.

 The announcement 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ contains 
 more information and links to the jar.

 It would be very helpful if anyone who has experienced troubles with 
 TiddlySaver in recent years would try out the new version and report back. 
 Then we can get it into the official release. Thanks.

 BTW, default behaviour with the lastest TWC (2.8.1) -- at least on my 
 system -- is for a backup with the current date to be saved and the 
 original filename to be overwritten with current content. This behaviour is 
 controlled in 'Options' using the 'SaveBackups' option.

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[tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

2014-10-23 Thread Robert Edwards
I've searched and experimented but can't find quite the right combination 
of things to do what I want. I'm trying to create a tiddler that looks like 
the following (colored blue here just for clarity):

text

ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

text

I cannot seem to suppress the italicization of everything after the double 
slash. If I do the following:


text

ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

text


I get:

text

ssh:*user@**bogushostname.com text *

(I hope that renders correctly when I post it -- everything after the colon 
is italicized  and the line breaks between the second and third lines are 
removed)

I tried various permutations of tildes and triple-double quotes but no joy. 
Suggestions?

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Re: [tw] Re: Some thoughts on SVG animation, and a question

2014-10-23 Thread Alex Hough
I see font awesome is not svg, its a font - of course it is!
Some of the font awesome classes in the plugin can be used to transform SVG
though... fa-spin for example.



Alex

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 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:37:26 PM UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:


 On the aminamted svg front, I was looking at the font awesome plugin -
 very impressive.


 I like font awesome, but I prefer svg. So I'm happy, that Jeremy made it a
 first class citizen in TW.
 There's also a very good article at css-tricks see:
 http://css-tricks.com/icon-fonts-vs-svg/

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

2014-10-23 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Robert

The usual way to handle this is to use a monospaced block for the command
line:

text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

```
ssh://u...@bogushostname.com
```

text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

Would that meet your needs?

Best wishes

Jeremy


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 I've searched and experimented but can't find quite the right combination
 of things to do what I want. I'm trying to create a tiddler that looks like
 the following (colored blue here just for clarity):

 text

 ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

 text

 I cannot seem to suppress the italicization of everything after the double
 slash. If I do the following:

 
 text

 ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

 text
 

 I get:

 text

 ssh:*user@**bogushostname.com http://hostname.com text *

 (I hope that renders correctly when I post it -- everything after the
 colon is italicized  and the line breaks between the second and third lines
 are removed)

 I tried various permutations of tildes and triple-double quotes but no
 joy. Suggestions?

 Thanks!



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[tw] TW5 icons resources

2014-10-23 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Is there any recommended library for getting TW5 icons?

I think it have been mentioned several times, but I can't find the thread. 
If we came across a good compilation maybe we can pin the thread.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [tw] TW5: splitting a TW file based on tags

2014-10-23 Thread Jon
Yes, got it working.
Thanks, Jon

On Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:06:23 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:28:58 AM UTC-7, Jon wrote:

 Hi, this is exactly what I want to do. 
 Could you please give some instructions of where to put the snippet and 
 how to execute it?


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 to invoke javascript code from the console, you just type (or paste) the 
 code into the input area, and press enter to execute.   The snippet of code 
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  That should do it.

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[tw] Podcast discussion about productivity tools. TWc mentioned.

2014-10-23 Thread PMario
@Jeremy,

I stumbled upon this podcast [1]. They are talking about productivity 
tools, programs they work on and programs they work with. 

Talking about TW starts at ~ minute 14:03. The guy that uses it talks about 
TWclassic. 
But More interesting is, what leads to the discussion about TW. 
*So start listening from 13:19 makes more sense. *The talk about TW is 2 
min.

... And that's why I did create a new topic.

It's kind of interesting, how problematic it is, to describe, what 
TiddlyWiki is.

... and as a non native english speaking guy, I was surprised, who funny 
the word tiddler is. 

anyway have fun!
mario

[1] 
https://soundcloud.com/product-hunt/product-hunt-radio-episode-25-w-ryan-orbuch-gwen-brinsmead-ari-weinstein

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

2014-10-23 Thread Robert Edwards
Thanks Jeremy!

My actual tiddler is a bit more complicated than the simple example I 
posted but what you've suggested might be workaround.

Cheers!

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:19:35 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Robert

 The usual way to handle this is to use a monospaced block for the command 
 line:

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 ```
 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:
 ```

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 Would that meet your needs?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 javascript: wrote:

 I've searched and experimented but can't find quite the right combination 
 of things to do what I want. I'm trying to create a tiddler that looks like 
 the following (colored blue here just for clarity):

 text

 ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

 text

 I cannot seem to suppress the italicization of everything after the 
 double slash. If I do the following:

 
 text

 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:

 text
 

 I get:

 text

 ssh:*user@**bogushostname.com http://hostname.com text *

 (I hope that renders correctly when I post it -- everything after the 
 colon is italicized  and the line breaks between the second and third lines 
 are removed)

 I tried various permutations of tildes and triple-double quotes but no 
 joy. Suggestions?

 Thanks!



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

2014-10-23 Thread Robert Edwards
Hmm -- not sure if this is a bug. the three backticks have to be preceded 
by two newlines. This works as expected:

 clone from

 ```
 ssh://h...@repolocationbogus.com
 ```
 Lorum ipsum



But this does not:

 clone from
 ```
 ssh://h...@repolocationbogus.com
 ```
 Lorum ipsum


The latter yields (approximately):

 clone from ` 
 ssh://h...@repolocationbogus.com 

 Lorum ipsum


In the latter case, in my TW the code-block-interpreted part gets rendered 
in this pinky-red color. The red text also has the code-block boxes around 
it, including the one backtick on the first line. The former case does not 
get colorized when rendered and only the second line gets rendered in 
monospace.
 
I noticed in your example you have the two newlines before the first set of 
backticks. Is that correctly required? The docs here:
http://tiddlywiki.com/static/Code%2520Blocks%2520in%2520WikiText.html
...say only that the backticks must be at the start of the line and 
immediately followed by a newline.

Thanks for your help! I'm having a bit of a struggle transitioning from TWC 
to TW5 and I appreciate the hand-holding!

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:19:35 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Robert

 The usual way to handle this is to use a monospaced block for the command 
 line:

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 ```
 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:
 ```

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 Would that meet your needs?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 javascript: wrote:

 I've searched and experimented but can't find quite the right combination 
 of things to do what I want. I'm trying to create a tiddler that looks like 
 the following (colored blue here just for clarity):

 text

 ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

 text

 I cannot seem to suppress the italicization of everything after the 
 double slash. If I do the following:

 
 text

 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:

 text
 

 I get:

 text

 ssh:*user@**bogushostname.com http://hostname.com text *

 (I hope that renders correctly when I post it -- everything after the 
 colon is italicized  and the line breaks between the second and third lines 
 are removed)

 I tried various permutations of tildes and triple-double quotes but no 
 joy. Suggestions?

 Thanks!



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread TheDiveO
Hmm ... reminds me of search engine and preview file locks that I once had 
on my day job system. On the other hand, on my Win8.1 Surface 3 Pro 
everthing seems to tuck away the way it is meant. No issues so far.

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:28:40 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:00:52 PM UTC+2, Stephen Kimmel wrote:

 I concluded, rightly or wrongly, that the problem was a corrupted 
 tiddler. 


 I don't think so. ... Windows sometimes locks files an forgets to unlock 
 them, even if the program who locked it is closed already.  
 I've had this behaviour several times, in a different context. For me the 
 file explorer sometimes causes this behaviour. 

 -m


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[tw] [TW5] modal lightbox with large image

2014-10-23 Thread TheDiveO
Hi,

I would like to use a modal lightbox that shows an image. I've set up an 
image tiddler with a rather large jpg image and added a footer field so the 
user can dismiss the tiddler. When I send the tm-modal message, the 
lightbox shows up as expected. But unfortunately, the image overflows the 
screen and the ayout is, well, borked. Is there a way to auto-size the 
image so that it doesn't make the lightbox explode? When I view the image 
tiddler normally in the story river then the image automatically gets 
resized to the story river width.

Any help greatly appreciated,
TheDiveO

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

2014-10-23 Thread PMario

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:04:59 PM UTC+2, Robert Edwards wrote:

 I noticed in your example you have the two newlines before the first set 
 of backticks. Is that correctly required? The docs here:


yes. That's required for TW5 paragraph handling. So if there is no double 
linebreak, TW parser things everything belongs together. 

clone from ... will be a paragraph

```
ssh: ...   will be a precode block
```

-m 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] modal lightbox with large image

2014-10-23 Thread Daniel Baird
You could set CSS property max-width: 90% on the image?

On 24 October 2014 06:42, TheDiveO harald.albre...@gmx.net wrote:

 Hi,

 I would like to use a modal lightbox that shows an image. I've set up an
 image tiddler with a rather large jpg image and added a footer field so the
 user can dismiss the tiddler. When I send the tm-modal message, the
 lightbox shows up as expected. But unfortunately, the image overflows the
 screen and the ayout is, well, borked. Is there a way to auto-size the
 image so that it doesn't make the lightbox explode? When I view the image
 tiddler normally in the story river then the image automatically gets
 resized to the story river width.

 Any help greatly appreciated,
 TheDiveO

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RE: [tw] Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki version 5.1.4

2014-10-23 Thread andrew.j.harrison84
I just wanted to sing kodos to Jeremy and all supporters to let you know how 
happy I am. Today, I complete an upgrade to my wiki (t3d.tiddlyspot.com) using 
only my android phone and google chrome and es file explorer with no problems. 
I wasn't even using AndTidwiki. It was awesome. Jeremy is awesome. Thank you 
for TW5.




Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G TouchJeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com 
wrote:I'm delighted to announce that TiddlyWiki version 5.1.4 has been released 
to:

http://tiddlywiki.com/

Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing wikis at:

http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html

There's a few bug fixes, a couple of new features, and some more work on the 
documentation:

* Added a toolbar button for advanced search
* Changed dragging behaviour so that you can drag a tiddler title into an edit 
box to insert the title, making link creation easier. (This change doesn't 
affect the behaviour of dragging tiddler links between TiddlyWiki windows)
* Added additional theme tweaks for the body text size and line height
* Extended the ViewWidget to work with subtiddlers
* Fixed problem with search counts
* Fixed problem with missing wiki folder warnings under Node.js
* Added coloured warnings and errors under Node.js

See the release note at http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.3 for more details.

Thanks to danielo515 and gernert for their contributions to this release.

As usual, feedback is gratefully received!

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

2014-10-23 Thread Andrew Ashling
​Hi Daniel,

I'll try to answer what I've found out​ meanwhile, but please remember I'm
just a user (over seven years now), and by no means a programmer.



 I mainly use a chromebook. Most of my docs are on the cloud and I like to
 access tiddlys from different browsers/computers too. I am using TW5, but
 it's more important for me to be able to edit and save easily on any
 computer, and I will switch to TW Classic if I can save tiddly files onto a
 cloud directory without manual intervention. ie I am waiting for
 TiddlyChrome that replicates TiddlyFox functionality. But I can't wait.


​The only way I found up until now is a hosted solution​ like TiddlySpace
and the likes, but personally I'm not partial to those. IMHO there is a
need for a very simple module you can deploy on your own domain to host
TWs. I know there exist (or existed) some solutions but they were not what
I would call simple.

If you only need to consult your TWs you can simply put them in the Public
folder of DropBox. They're read only but otherwise fully functional. I
tested this the other day with my cluster of 13 linked TWs. And of course
they're up-to-date up until your last edit from another device.

My problem with a chromebook is that (whenever I get one) I will be using
it where there is no wireless connection. I'm almost certain you can access
TW in read only mode from the SSD. What I don't know is whether you can
synchronize the chromebook SSD with DropBox.

I realize none of this meets your requirement to be able to modify your TWs
with a chromebook and keep them synchronized over multiple devices.

But I can't follow the conversation about  / understand  the plugin  User-Agent
 Switcher
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg,
  Will the plugin allow me to do simple saves - akin to tiddlyfox - with TWC
  in ChromeOS (chromebook : where not .jar files can run) ?


Not to my knowledge. As far as my limited understanding goes the User-Agent
Switcher only shows you the pages as if rendered by another browser.
Useful for testing css and html, but I don't think the full functionality
is replicated.

Myself, I need a cheap, light laptop with a half decent screen, a decent
keyboard and about 8 hours autonomy on a full battery. To counter
chromebooks, Microsoft is encouraging manufacturers to produce low-spec,
low-cost notebooks, similar to chromebooks but running Windows 8.1.
I'm looking into those, and I expect a few will turn up around the
Holidays. (I would put a light Linux distribution like Lubuntu or
Peppermint on it.) This would allow me to use Firefox for TW and Chrome for
a few apps I like.

Sorry, but I can't provide a better answer.






On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Daniel dcla...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Andrew
 I am following your post from half a year ago.
 I mainly use a chromebook. Most of my docs are on the cloud and I like to
 access tiddlys from different browsers/computers too. I am using TW5, but
 it's more important for me to be able to edit and save easily on any
 computer, and I will switch to TW Classic if I can save tiddly files onto a
 cloud directory without manual intervention. ie I am waiting for
 TiddlyChrome that replicates TiddlyFox functionality. But I can't wait.

 But I can't follow the conversation about  / understand  the plugin  
 User-Agent
 Switcher
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg,
  Will the plugin allow me to do simple saves - akin to tiddlyfox - with TWC
  in ChromeOS (chromebook : where not .jar files can run) ?

 Thanks

 Den onsdag den 12. marts 2014 18.19.48 UTC-4 skrev Andrew Ashling:

 Hi Paul,


 The signed jar indeed does save in Chrome. (on Firefox I use TiddlyFox).
 So probably it will work on a Chromebook as well, which is great news.

 However I don't get the standard backup behavior using TWC 2.8.1. The
 file is saved, but NO backup of the previous version is made.

 Hope this is enough info. If not, ask away.

 Cheers,

 Andrew


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, PVHL pvh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys.

 I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent
 Switcher
 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-agent-switcher-for-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg.
 Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few
 more.

 And it works… The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS,
 so, since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,


 The current TiddlySaver should work everywhere without any assistance.
 It was announced in this forum
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/iiVIzWMCKgQ but is
 not yet included in the TWC download as we were trying to make sure
 everything works before committing. As far as I know it works everywhere
 and in all TWC versions using all Java versions except update 45 (which can
 use the unsigned jar included in 

[tw] [TW5] Spanish Translation

2014-10-23 Thread Alfonso Arciniega
Hi there,

As suggested by Xavier Cazin, I tried to follow the steps described here:
http://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#How%20to%20create%20a%20translation%20for%20TiddlyWiki
 

I am afraid the instructions are extremely difficult to follow, unless you 
are very familiar with GitHub and Node.js, which I am not. I managed to go 
through the instructions all the way to instruction #8 until I gave up. The 
main issues for me are:

Re instruction #4 Create a sibling directory /MyTranslation/jermolene.github.io 
, what does create a sibling directory mean?
I did copy all the folders/files from the clone \mytranslation\TiddlyWiki5 
to \mytranslation\jermolene.github.io. Is this what #4 is asking to do?

Re #9 Run ../build.jermolene.github.io/quick-bld.sh to build TiddlyWiki 
http://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#TiddlyWiki, I have no idea what to do here.

Finally, is it possible that I just go straight to #12 Edit the .tid and 
.multids files in your language folder to translate the English text,
(using Notepad++) and someone else put everything together? Note that I 
already created a plugin.info (instruction #7) and edited tiddlywiki.info 
(instruction #8). After translation, I can zip all files and send them out 
to somebody that can incorporate the changes to jermolene.

Please advise,

Alfonso Arciniega

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