[tw] Re: [TW5] Calendar plugin

2015-03-05 Thread Jed Carty
For the moment look at what I made here 
http://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#Calendar%20Archives, clicking on a 
day will bring you to a tiddler for that day (and create the tiddler if it 
doesn't already exist), which sounds like part of what you want. Eventually 
I will get around to packaging it into a simple macro to include in the 
plugin. For now, editing the thisBuildDayTiddlerText macro will change what 
the created tiddler looks like. Or you can just take out everything inside 
the second reveal widget in the thisBlogArchiveMacro macro, and remove the 
first reveal widget (just the widget) and it will only open the tiddler, 
not create one if no tiddler exists.

For the checkbox part that would be possible. What I have in part of the 
prototype for the widget is similar to what you are describing, but using a 
button. What you describe is a much better interface, but you could modify 
what I made to fit it. Once again I will hopefully get around to making a 
macro for this to put into the calendar plugin.

An yes, I would like to see what you are doing. I have never seen anything 
where someone is using anything I have put together.

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Re: [tw] Re: keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Beinan Li
Thanks again for the details, Patrick.

My usecase:

When I see an existing tiddler body text, I don't switch away my eyesight
to look for a button, no matter how close it might be at that moment. I
always just click on the body text itself, which is usually much more
likely just under the mouse, or even it's not, it'd still be a lot bigger
to aim at than a button.

One has to agree that the text area is usually much bigger than a button
and intuitively, it IS the thing you'd like to edit, right?



Thanks,
Beinan


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Patrick Detzner patrick.detz...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I don't know what your usecase is but you could edit the ViewTemplate to
 make the tiddler title or the tiddler toolbar a button, and then make that
 button do the same thing as the current edit button. It would achieve what
 you're looking for, except on a single click.

 There is some mouse gesture support. TW5 does have some drag and drop
 functionality, and it should be possible to make it do anything that any
 Javascript-based webpage does. I don't know if there's been much work in
 this area, but I would take a look at the dropzone widget to get an idea of
 how mouse gestures could be handled in TW5.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:24:56 PM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 Oh, that's sad because the double-click thing was so handy it became my
 second nature.
 Hardly any aiming at all, so that's a classic user-friendly design
 according to Fitts's Law.

 So there is no mouse gesture support at all in TW5 I guess?

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:00:03 PM UTC-5, Patrick Detzner wrote:

 I don't know about the double click thing, but one thing you could do is
 add that button to the list of the buttons that appear on every tiddler.
 Then it would be closer at hand.

 I like the potential for keyboard shortcuts. I'll have to play around
 with that but give me a week or two and I may have a way for you to toggle
 the sidebar with a keyboard shortcut.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:37:49 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'd also like to know if there is a fast way to fold the sidebar other
 than by clicking that tiny little   at the corner.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to start
 editing it with TW classic.
 But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

 Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
 I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts
 there.

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Re: [tw] Re: keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Beinan Li
Try this with TW2

http://tiddlywiki.org


Thanks,
Beinan


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Beinan Li li.bei...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks again for the details, Patrick.

 My usecase:

 When I see an existing tiddler body text, I don't switch away my eyesight
 to look for a button, no matter how close it might be at that moment. I
 always just click on the body text itself, which is usually much more
 likely just under the mouse, or even it's not, it'd still be a lot bigger
 to aim at than a button.

 One has to agree that the text area is usually much bigger than a button
 and intuitively, it IS the thing you'd like to edit, right?



 Thanks,
 Beinan


 On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Patrick Detzner patrick.detz...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I don't know what your usecase is but you could edit the ViewTemplate to
 make the tiddler title or the tiddler toolbar a button, and then make that
 button do the same thing as the current edit button. It would achieve what
 you're looking for, except on a single click.

 There is some mouse gesture support. TW5 does have some drag and drop
 functionality, and it should be possible to make it do anything that any
 Javascript-based webpage does. I don't know if there's been much work in
 this area, but I would take a look at the dropzone widget to get an idea of
 how mouse gestures could be handled in TW5.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:24:56 PM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 Oh, that's sad because the double-click thing was so handy it became my
 second nature.
 Hardly any aiming at all, so that's a classic user-friendly design
 according to Fitts's Law.

 So there is no mouse gesture support at all in TW5 I guess?

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:00:03 PM UTC-5, Patrick Detzner wrote:

 I don't know about the double click thing, but one thing you could do
 is add that button to the list of the buttons that appear on every tiddler.
 Then it would be closer at hand.

 I like the potential for keyboard shortcuts. I'll have to play around
 with that but give me a week or two and I may have a way for you to toggle
 the sidebar with a keyboard shortcut.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:37:49 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'd also like to know if there is a fast way to fold the sidebar other
 than by clicking that tiny little   at the corner.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to start
 editing it with TW classic.
 But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

 Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
 I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts
 there.

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[tw] [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Uwe
At the right side of Tiddlywiki under More-Tags I see a list of 
coloured tags (see attachment). How can I get the code of this list? I 
would like to show the tags in a new tiddler, but with an additional 
filter: Show only the ordered tags of tiddlers, that have also the tag 
Content . To show also the number of tiddlers with the different tags 
(as shown in the screenshot) would be nice.

As an alternative solution it would be helpful to have a list of tiddlers 
filtered by the tag Content, sorted by tag and tiddlername with the 
different tags as the headlines. The tiddlers should be links.

tagA

1. [Tiddler01]
2. [Tiddler02]
3. [Tiddler03]

tagB

1. [Tiddler01]
2. [Tiddler02]
3. [Tiddler45]

tagC

1. [Tiddler01]
2. [Tiddler33]
3. [Tiddler45]
4. [Tiddler55]

...

Thanks for any help.

Greetings,

Uwe

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to ignore date formatting in new journal title?

2015-03-05 Thread PMario
Hi Nathan,

This seems to be a bug :)
I did test it with a tiddler named: am at 21:00 and it changed it to pm.

I'll raise a ticket. 

mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to ignore date formatting in new journal title?

2015-03-05 Thread PMario
see: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1553
-m

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[tw] Re: keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Detzner
I don't know what your usecase is but you could edit the ViewTemplate to 
make the tiddler title or the tiddler toolbar a button, and then make that 
button do the same thing as the current edit button. It would achieve what 
you're looking for, except on a single click.

There is some mouse gesture support. TW5 does have some drag and drop 
functionality, and it should be possible to make it do anything that any 
Javascript-based webpage does. I don't know if there's been much work in 
this area, but I would take a look at the dropzone widget to get an idea of 
how mouse gestures could be handled in TW5.

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:24:56 PM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 Oh, that's sad because the double-click thing was so handy it became my 
 second nature.
 Hardly any aiming at all, so that's a classic user-friendly design 
 according to Fitts's Law.

 So there is no mouse gesture support at all in TW5 I guess?

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:00:03 PM UTC-5, Patrick Detzner wrote:

 I don't know about the double click thing, but one thing you could do is 
 add that button to the list of the buttons that appear on every tiddler. 
 Then it would be closer at hand.

 I like the potential for keyboard shortcuts. I'll have to play around 
 with that but give me a week or two and I may have a way for you to toggle 
 the sidebar with a keyboard shortcut.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:37:49 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'd also like to know if there is a fast way to fold the sidebar other 
 than by clicking that tiny little   at the corner.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to start 
 editing it with TW classic.
 But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

 Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
 I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts 
 there.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:18:14 PM UTC-8, Uwe wrote:

 At the right side of Tiddlywiki under More-Tags I see a list of 
 coloured tags (see attachment). How can I get the code of this list?

I would like to show the tags in a new tiddler, but with an additional 
 filter: Show only the ordered tags of tiddlers, that have also the tag 
 Content . To show also the number of tiddlers with the different tags 
 (as shown in the screenshot) would be nice.
 As an alternative solution it would be helpful to have a list of tiddlers 
 filtered by the tag Content, sorted by tag and tiddlername with the 
 different tags as the headlines. The tiddlers should be links.


The following is not a complete solution, but should get you on your way...

Take a look at [[$:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Tags]].  You will find these lines 
that generate the tag pill list output:
$list filter=[tags[]!is[system]sort[title]]
$transclude tiddler=$:/core/ui/TagTemplate/ small class=
tc-menu-list-count$count filter=[all[current]tagging[]]//small
/$list
First, copy this into a separate tiddler, so you will get just the list 
without the tag manager button above, or the untagged items below. 
 Then, modify the filter in the $list widget to suit your needs.

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: How to create a global KeyboardWidget used by the entire wiki?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
OK, glad that this thread is useful.
Well, I'm looking forward to my full adoption of TW5 once the global 
keyboard shortcut thing is in place.
Currently I found my mouse-free editing workflow with TWC is broken with 
TW5. 
Other than that I think the overall flexibility boost, the improved saving 
and exporting, etc. are a big plus to programmers.
I love the widgets and messages. 

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 1:45:20 PM UTC-5, Patrick Detzner wrote:

 My guess is (and I would love if someone could confirm this) that the 
 keyboard widget is only responsive when the focus is set to an element 
 which it contains.
 What worked for me was to go into the tiddler $:/core/ui/PageTemplate, 
 then change the relevant section to this:
 $keyboard message=tm-new-tiddler param=new title 
 key=ctrl+shift+enter

 $list 
 filter=[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/PageTemplate]!has[draft.of]] 
 variable=listItem

 $transclude tiddler=listItem/

 /$list

 /$keyboard
 The middle 3 lines were in the original, and I added the top and bottom 
 line to wrap the keyboard shortcut for the new tiddler around every tiddler 
 that is transcluded on the page.
 This is a really useful idea, I'm happy that you brought it up.
 Patrick

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:58:29 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 My browser is Safari 8.0.3

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:54:56 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I just learned that keyboard shortcuts are created using KeyboardWidget.
 I also learned that one can create widget inside a tiddler.
 I now would like to create keyboard shortcuts that can work across the 
 whole wiki.
 Is this possible? I tried to add a KeyboardWidget this way in a tiddler, 
 but the shortcut is not responsive.

 Here is my code:

 $keyboard message=tm-new-tiddler param=new title 
 key=ctrl+shift+enterHello Keyboard/$keyboard

 Anything wrong with the syntax or the overall approach?

 Thanks!



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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Detzner
Hi Uwe,

You can find the code in the shadow tiddler $:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Tags. In 
general, you can find the code to any pre-loaded TW features if you look 
around in the shadow tiddlers.

To show only the tags of tiddlers that are tagged Content, with all the 
other features of the More-Tags sidebar, try this:

$list filter=[tag[Content]tags[]sort[title]]
$transclude tiddler=$:/core/ui/TagTemplate/ small class=
tc-menu-list-count$count filter=[all[current]tagging[]]/br/small
/$list

Let me know if that works. You can read more about filters and filter 
operators at tiddlywiki.com. They definitely take some getting used to but 
they are very powerful.

Patrick


On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 3:18:14 PM UTC-5, Uwe wrote:

 At the right side of Tiddlywiki under More-Tags I see a list of 
 coloured tags (see attachment). How can I get the code of this list? I 
 would like to show the tags in a new tiddler, but with an additional 
 filter: Show only the ordered tags of tiddlers, that have also the tag 
 Content . To show also the number of tiddlers with the different tags 
 (as shown in the screenshot) would be nice.

 As an alternative solution it would be helpful to have a list of tiddlers 
 filtered by the tag Content, sorted by tag and tiddlername with the 
 different tags as the headlines. The tiddlers should be links.

 tagA

 1. [Tiddler01]
 2. [Tiddler02]
 3. [Tiddler03]

 tagB

 1. [Tiddler01]
 2. [Tiddler02]
 3. [Tiddler45]

 tagC

 1. [Tiddler01]
 2. [Tiddler33]
 3. [Tiddler45]
 4. [Tiddler55]

 ...

 Thanks for any help.

 Greetings,

 Uwe


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[tw] Re: keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
Oh, that's sad because the double-click thing was so handy it became my 
second nature.
Hardly any aiming at all, so that's a classic user-friendly design 
according to Fitts's Law.

So there is no mouse gesture support at all in TW5 I guess?

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:00:03 PM UTC-5, Patrick Detzner wrote:

 I don't know about the double click thing, but one thing you could do is 
 add that button to the list of the buttons that appear on every tiddler. 
 Then it would be closer at hand.

 I like the potential for keyboard shortcuts. I'll have to play around with 
 that but give me a week or two and I may have a way for you to toggle the 
 sidebar with a keyboard shortcut.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:37:49 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'd also like to know if there is a fast way to fold the sidebar other 
 than by clicking that tiny little   at the corner.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to start 
 editing it with TW classic.
 But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

 Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
 I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts 
 there.



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Re: [tw] Re: keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Beinan Li
I think JIRA from Atlasssian uses the similar approach, with a (better)
single-click. You click anywhere of that area and you start editing.

Thanks,
Beinan


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Beinan Li li.bei...@gmail.com wrote:

 Try this with TW2

 http://tiddlywiki.org


 Thanks,
 Beinan


 On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Beinan Li li.bei...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks again for the details, Patrick.

 My usecase:

 When I see an existing tiddler body text, I don't switch away my eyesight
 to look for a button, no matter how close it might be at that moment. I
 always just click on the body text itself, which is usually much more
 likely just under the mouse, or even it's not, it'd still be a lot bigger
 to aim at than a button.

 One has to agree that the text area is usually much bigger than a button
 and intuitively, it IS the thing you'd like to edit, right?



 Thanks,
 Beinan


 On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Patrick Detzner 
 patrick.detz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know what your usecase is but you could edit the ViewTemplate to
 make the tiddler title or the tiddler toolbar a button, and then make that
 button do the same thing as the current edit button. It would achieve what
 you're looking for, except on a single click.

 There is some mouse gesture support. TW5 does have some drag and drop
 functionality, and it should be possible to make it do anything that any
 Javascript-based webpage does. I don't know if there's been much work in
 this area, but I would take a look at the dropzone widget to get an idea of
 how mouse gestures could be handled in TW5.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:24:56 PM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 Oh, that's sad because the double-click thing was so handy it became my
 second nature.
 Hardly any aiming at all, so that's a classic user-friendly design
 according to Fitts's Law.

 So there is no mouse gesture support at all in TW5 I guess?

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 2:00:03 PM UTC-5, Patrick Detzner wrote:

 I don't know about the double click thing, but one thing you could do
 is add that button to the list of the buttons that appear on every 
 tiddler.
 Then it would be closer at hand.

 I like the potential for keyboard shortcuts. I'll have to play around
 with that but give me a week or two and I may have a way for you to toggle
 the sidebar with a keyboard shortcut.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:37:49 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'd also like to know if there is a fast way to fold the sidebar
 other than by clicking that tiny little   at the corner.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to
 start editing it with TW classic.
 But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

 Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
 I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts
 there.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Jed Carty
Do you mean something like this? 
http://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#Bookmarks%20by%20Tags

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Uwe
Thank you, both; that wordcloud helped to solve the problem!

Is there also a solution for an alphabetical ordered list? (So the user can 
see the content at first sight, without clicking around.)

Thanks again

Greetings,

Uwe



Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 22:32:56 UTC+1 schrieb Eric Shulman:

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:18:14 PM UTC-8, Uwe wrote:

 At the right side of Tiddlywiki under More-Tags I see a list of 
 coloured tags (see attachment). How can I get the code of this list?

 I would like to show the tags in a new tiddler, but with an additional 
 filter: Show only the ordered tags of tiddlers, that have also the tag 
 Content . To show also the number of tiddlers with the different tags 
 (as shown in the screenshot) would be nice.
 As an alternative solution it would be helpful to have a list of tiddlers 
 filtered by the tag Content, sorted by tag and tiddlername with the 
 different tags as the headlines. The tiddlers should be links.


 The following is not a complete solution, but should get you on your way...

 Take a look at [[$:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Tags]].  You will find these lines 
 that generate the tag pill list output:
 $list filter=[tags[]!is[system]sort[title]]
 $transclude tiddler=$:/core/ui/TagTemplate/ small class=
 tc-menu-list-count$count filter=[all[current]tagging[]]//small
 /$list
 First, copy this into a separate tiddler, so you will get just the list 
 without the tag manager button above, or the untagged items below. 
  Then, modify the filter in the $list widget to suit your needs.

 enjoy,
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[tw] Re: Use TinyMCE in TW5?

2015-03-05 Thread Mat
Danielo wrote:

 ... but has the same problem as the rest, they produce HTML not wikitext.


Is this athere a general search/need for a WYSIWYG wikitext editor for TW? 
A quick googling 
https://www.google.se/search?hl=enq=wysiwyg+wikitexgws_rd=cr,sslei=jM_4VOL7L4uxygPth4KoBQ#hl=enq=wysiwyg+for+wikitext+
 
seems to give quite a few alternatives. Tiki 
https://doc.tiki.org/WYSIWYG+vs+Wiki seems nice, at least as far as I can 
tell from a quick glance. LGPL licence, and can give both html and wikitext 
in wysiwyg.

:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Jed Carty
Yes, that is specific to the bookmarks I am using. It only displays tags 
that are listed in the $:/data/Bookmarks/BookmarkTags tiddler, and then 
under each tag it only displays things that have both that tag and the tag 
Bookmark, the second and third tag selection dropdowns only show up when 
the first (and then second for the third one) menu has an option selected. 
That implementation is almost certainly much more complex than what you are 
describing.

this:

$list filter='[!is[system]tags[]]'
$transclude tiddler=$:/core/ui/TagTemplate mode=inline/

$set name=CurrentTag value=currentTiddler
$list filter='[tagCurrentTag]'

$link to=currentTiddler$view field='title'//$link

/$list
/$set
/$list

may do what you want, just change the !is[system] part to whatever filter 
you want. So to only show tags that come from tiddlers that are tagged 
Contents you make the first line $list filter='[tag[Contents]tags[]]'

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Jon
Hi Jed,

That looks great and I'd really appreciate it in my wiki but I couldn't get 
it going. I copied and pasted into a tiddler but the the 2nd (All 
Results) box doesn't show up and it doesn't show my tags. Does it rely on 
something else?

Thanks
Jon

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[tw] Re: education.tw.com

2015-03-05 Thread Peter Miller
It's interesting to measure the capabilities of TW5 vs the Web Literacy Map 
at https://webmaker.org/en-US/resources -- I think it fares pretty well.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 9:28:59 AM UTC, Richard Smith wrote:

 Hi All,

 At Jeremy's invitation, I am putting together materials for a tiddlywiki 
 in education portal, to eventually be hosted under the main site and 
 addressing the particular use-cases found in education.

 I'd really appreciate any feedback or input you might have about the site 
 itself or the content that should appear on it.

 I've made a template for the site here;

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/education.tw.com.html

 Please feel free to edit it and publish it back at me with any 
 improvements you would like to make in terms of function or form. I've also 
 included a community consultation section listing some areas for 
 discussion - I'd be really happy to get any feedback or contributions you'd 
 like to make - either here in the forum or via wiki.

 Regards,
 Richard


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[tw] [TW5] Save tiddler, but stay in edit view?

2015-03-05 Thread Mat
In live note taking situations, it is desirable to save the text every now 
and then - but it is very unpractical to have the tiddler exit edit mode 
for this only to have to enter edit mode again, including the seconds of 
waiting for this. It would be much better if there was also a save but 
stay in edit button. (Actually, that really is a *save*, whereas the 
current behaviour is a *done*)

I have localized the key tiddler for this to be 
$:/core/modules/widgets/navigator.js 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fwidgets%2Fnavigator.js 
which contains:

var NavigatorWidget = function(parseTreeNode,options) {
 this.initialise(parseTreeNode,options);
 this.addEventListeners([
 [...]  
 {type: tm-save-tiddler, handler: handleSaveTiddlerEvent},
 [...]  
 ]);
 };



...and handleSaveTiddlerEvent reads:

// Take a tiddler out of edit mode, saving the changes
 NavigatorWidget.prototype.handleSaveTiddlerEvent = function(event) {
 var title = event.param || event.tiddlerTitle,
 tiddler = this.wiki.getTiddler(title),
 storyList = this.getStoryList();
 // Replace the original tiddler with the draft
 if(tiddler) {
 var draftTitle = (tiddler.fields[draft.title] || ).trim(),
 draftOf = (tiddler.fields[draft.of] || ).trim();
 if(draftTitle) {
 var isRename = draftOf !== draftTitle,
 isConfirmed = true;
 if(isRename  this.wiki.tiddlerExists(draftTitle)) {
 isConfirmed = confirm($tw.language.getString(
 ConfirmOverwriteTiddler,
 {variables:
 {title: draftTitle}
 }
 ));
 }
 if(isConfirmed) {
 // Save the draft tiddler as the real tiddler
 this.wiki.addTiddler(new 
 $tw.Tiddler(this.wiki.getCreationFields(),tiddler,{
 title: draftTitle,
 draft.title: undefined,
 draft.of: undefined
 },this.wiki.getModificationFields()));
 // Remove the draft tiddler
 this.wiki.deleteTiddler(title);
 // Remove the original tiddler if we're renaming it
 if(isRename) {
 this.wiki.deleteTiddler(draftOf);
 }
 // Replace the draft in the story with the original
 this.replaceFirstTitleInStory(storyList,title,draftTitle);
 this.addToHistory(draftTitle,event.navigateFromClientRect);
 if(draftTitle !== this.storyTitle) {
 this.saveStoryList(storyList);
 }
 // Trigger an autosave
 $tw.rootWidget.dispatchEvent({type: tm-auto-save-wiki});
 }
 }
 }
 return false;
 };



I'm unsure which part that closes the edit view and opens the view mode, 
but I'm also thinking that bit may be necessary in order to do the rest.

Could anyone help out a bit, please?

:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to show tiddlers with a special tag, grouped by tag and sorted by tagname?

2015-03-05 Thread Jon
OK, thanks Jed. I'll play around with that.

Regards
Jon

On Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:21:01 UTC, Jed Carty wrote:

 Yes, that is specific to the bookmarks I am using. It only displays tags 
 that are listed in the $:/data/Bookmarks/BookmarkTags tiddler, and then 
 under each tag it only displays things that have both that tag and the tag 
 Bookmark, the second and third tag selection dropdowns only show up when 
 the first (and then second for the third one) menu has an option selected. 
 That implementation is almost certainly much more complex than what you are 
 describing.

 this:

 $list filter='[!is[system]tags[]]'
 $transclude tiddler=$:/core/ui/TagTemplate mode=inline/

 $set name=CurrentTag value=currentTiddler
 $list filter='[tagCurrentTag]'

 $link to=currentTiddler$view field='title'//$link

 /$list
 /$set
 /$list

 may do what you want, just change the !is[system] part to whatever filter 
 you want. So to only show tags that come from tiddlers that are tagged 
 Contents you make the first line $list filter='[tag[Contents]tags[]]'


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Source of SVG visualizations (slightly off-topic)

2015-03-05 Thread Peter Miller
Thanks, Andreas -- I guess you mean these (which I had seen but forgotten): 
http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/d3/#HelloThere 

Incidentally, the following may be of passing interest as a means to letter 
(png) images for use on blogs: https://bufferapp.com/pablo

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 3:09:45 PM UTC, Peter Miller wrote:

 I don't know how long it will be there but RAW at 
 http://app.raw.densitydesign.org/ provides some nice visualizations and 
 specimen data. The exported SVG plays nicely with TiddlyWiki as far as I 
 can tell though I've yet to work out how to make it editable in SVG-Edit.


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[tw] [TW5] Where are all the z-index values defined?

2015-03-05 Thread Mat
Where/how can I find out in what z-index position various elements are? I 
did a search in the full code and there are only some eleven z-index values 
defined and none of them seem to be about e.g the view template. What is it 
that decides that e.g the tiddler title is seen in front of the tiddler 
background etc? 

Or is the order set in some other way perhaps?

Thank you!

:-)

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[tw] [TW5] Letting other widgets invoke actions/dispatch messages

2015-03-05 Thread Jed Carty
Now that I have some idea of how things work it is pretty simple to get the 
select, link, radio and checkbox widgets to be able to trigger action 
widgets, so here is a demo 
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/InvokingActions/.

For the link and radio widgets there aren't any problems. For the checkbox 
widget you need to use a reveal widget to give it different behavior for 
checking and unchecking, so you can only give it different behavior in 
5.1.8+.

The select widget this may not be particularly useful the way I have it. 
You can use reveal widgets like on the checkbox, but they are evaluated 
using the current state of the wiki, not the new state after the select 
widget changes. I would like to find a way to only have the actions in the 
option you select happen, but I haven't found a way to do that yet.

There is a bit more explanation in the demo, but most of it should be 
pretty straightforward.

I am hoping to make a pull request for at least the radio and link widgets 
because they are the ones that can be used the easiest without anything 
unexpected. 
Because you would have to use a reveal widget to change what a checkbox 
widget does for checking vs unchecking I am a bit concerned about it being 
confusing for new users, and I am hoping someone has an idea to make it 
work more intuitively.

The select widget needs work. I am trying to get it to only trigger the 
action widgets inside the option you pick, but I haven't had any success 
getting the raw wikitext from each option entry.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Save tiddler, but stay in edit view?

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Detzner
Hi Mat,

The parts you are asking about are highlighted in red. I think you could 
probably define a new message like tm-save-note and then create a new 
event handler like handleSaveNoteEvent that is exactly like the original, 
but with the highlighted parts removed.

I would definitely try it out on a backup copy first, but let me know if it 
works.

Patrick


// Save the draft tiddler as the real tiddler
 this.wiki.addTiddler(new 
 $tw.Tiddler(this.wiki.getCreationFields(),tiddler,{
 title: draftTitle,
 draft.title: undefined,
 draft.of: undefined
 },this.wiki.getModificationFields()));
 // Remove the draft tiddler
 this.wiki.deleteTiddler(title);
 // Remove the original tiddler if we're renaming it
 if(isRename) {
 this.wiki.deleteTiddler(draftOf);
 }
 // Replace the draft in the story with the original
 this.replaceFirstTitleInStory(
 storyList,title,draftTitle);
 this.addToHistory(draftTitle,
 event.navigateFromClientRect);
 if(draftTitle !== this.storyTitle) {
 this.saveStoryList(storyList);
 }
 // Trigger an autosave
 $tw.rootWidget.dispatchEvent({type: tm-auto-save-wiki});
 }
 }
 }
 return false;
 };



 I'm unsure which part that closes the edit view and opens the view mode, 
 but I'm also thinking that bit may be necessary in order to do the rest.

 Could anyone help out a bit, please?

 :-)



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[tw] keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to start 
editing it with TW classic.
But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts there.

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[tw] How to create a global KeyboardWidget used by the entire wiki?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
I just learned that keyboard shortcuts are created using KeyboardWidget.
I also learned that one can create widget inside a tiddler.
I now would like to create keyboard shortcuts that can work across the 
whole wiki.
Is this possible? I tried to add a KeyboardWidget this way in a tiddler, 
but the shortcut is not responsive.

Here is my code:

$keyboard message=tm-new-tiddler param=new title 
key=ctrl+shift+enterHello Keyboard/$keyboard

Anything wrong with the syntax or the overall approach?

Thanks!

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[tw] Re: keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
I'd also like to know if there is a fast way to fold the sidebar other than 
by clicking that tiny little   at the corner.

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to start 
 editing it with TW classic.
 But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

 Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
 I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts there.



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[tw] Re: How to create a global KeyboardWidget used by the entire wiki?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
My browser is Safari 8.0.3

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:54:56 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I just learned that keyboard shortcuts are created using KeyboardWidget.
 I also learned that one can create widget inside a tiddler.
 I now would like to create keyboard shortcuts that can work across the 
 whole wiki.
 Is this possible? I tried to add a KeyboardWidget this way in a tiddler, 
 but the shortcut is not responsive.

 Here is my code:

 $keyboard message=tm-new-tiddler param=new title 
 key=ctrl+shift+enterHello Keyboard/$keyboard

 Anything wrong with the syntax or the overall approach?

 Thanks!


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[tw] Re: Unable to change the icon of TOC

2015-03-05 Thread James
Thanks Jed Carty.

It appears magically. ;D

Thanks for your guidance and your awesome wiki reference. :D


On Thursday, 5 March 2015 15:35:34 UTC+8, Jed Carty wrote:

 Oh,  there is another macro required, I updated the list on my site. 
 FontAwesomeMacro is the name of the tiddler. 
 http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#FontAwesomeMacro

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Re: [tw] Re: Footnote Plugin (TW5)

2015-03-05 Thread Alex Hough
Danielo,

Ive' just grabbed your context search: very useful, thanks!

Alex

On 5 March 2015 at 11:35, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sometimes there is no need to re create the weel.

 Please have a look at : http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#PopupFootnotes

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[tw] Use TinyMCE in TW5?

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Denbigh
I'm not technical so if this is a stupid question sorry... 

Would it be possible to use TinyMCE as the editor in TW5?

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Re: [tw] cloned from

2015-03-05 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Alex,

 There are trails though a TW - chronological, via tags,
 TiddlyLinks a cloned trail would add another. potentially
 interesting in a review stage

Good point! Now that you mention it, I could also parse the history
list and create a trail of how a user navigated through a wiki. Very
interesting. I'll definitely keep this idea in mind.
As for static TiddlyLinks, the next release of tiddlymap will allow you
to automatically display all wiki links in a graph.

-Felix

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[tw] How to adjust the TW5 editing area widths?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
I'm considering switching to TW5 from TW2.
But I found it interesting that the new default layout 
is made so that over half of the screen width is devoted to the old sidebar,
while the main editing area shrinks to a much smaller column than before.
I searched for different themes and they all look that way.
This means me wonder: Is there an easy way to make the editing area wider?
Because with most desktop monitor being widescreen, the default layout
does look like the best use of the real estate.

Thanks,
K.


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[tw] Re: How to adjust the TW5 editing area widths?

2015-03-05 Thread Kakyo
Sorry for the typo, below is the correction:

This makes me wonder: Is there an easy way to make the editing area wider?
Because with most desktop monitor being widescreen, the default layout
does not look like the best use of the real estate.


On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:12:59 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'm considering switching to TW5 from TW2.
 But I found it interesting that the new default layout 
 is made so that over half of the screen width is devoted to the old 
 sidebar,
 while the main editing area shrinks to a much smaller column than before.
 I searched for different themes and they all look that way.
 This means me wonder: Is there an easy way to make the editing area wider?
 Because with most desktop monitor being widescreen, the default layout
 does look like the best use of the real estate.

 Thanks,
 K.




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[tw] Re: How to create a global KeyboardWidget used by the entire wiki?

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Detzner
My guess is (and I would love if someone could confirm this) that the 
keyboard widget is only responsive when the focus is set to an element 
which it contains.
What worked for me was to go into the tiddler $:/core/ui/PageTemplate, then 
change the relevant section to this:
$keyboard message=tm-new-tiddler param=new title 
key=ctrl+shift+enter

$list 
filter=[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/PageTemplate]!has[draft.of]] 
variable=listItem

$transclude tiddler=listItem/

/$list

/$keyboard
The middle 3 lines were in the original, and I added the top and bottom 
line to wrap the keyboard shortcut for the new tiddler around every tiddler 
that is transcluded on the page.
This is a really useful idea, I'm happy that you brought it up.
Patrick

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:58:29 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 My browser is Safari 8.0.3

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:54:56 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I just learned that keyboard shortcuts are created using KeyboardWidget.
 I also learned that one can create widget inside a tiddler.
 I now would like to create keyboard shortcuts that can work across the 
 whole wiki.
 Is this possible? I tried to add a KeyboardWidget this way in a tiddler, 
 but the shortcut is not responsive.

 Here is my code:

 $keyboard message=tm-new-tiddler param=new title 
 key=ctrl+shift+enterHello Keyboard/$keyboard

 Anything wrong with the syntax or the overall approach?

 Thanks!



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[tw] Re: How to adjust the TW5 editing area widths?

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Detzner
Yes, go to the Control Panel, then Appearance, then Theme Tweaks. You can 
play with the settings for tiddler width, story width, and story right 
which should allow you to adjust the layout to fit your screen better.

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:16:58 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 Sorry for the typo, below is the correction:

 This makes me wonder: Is there an easy way to make the editing area wider?
 Because with most desktop monitor being widescreen, the default layout
 does not look like the best use of the real estate.


 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:12:59 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'm considering switching to TW5 from TW2.
 But I found it interesting that the new default layout 
 is made so that over half of the screen width is devoted to the old 
 sidebar,
 while the main editing area shrinks to a much smaller column than before.
 I searched for different themes and they all look that way.
 This means me wonder: Is there an easy way to make the editing area wider?
 Because with most desktop monitor being widescreen, the default layout
 does look like the best use of the real estate.

 Thanks,
 K.




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[tw] Re: [TW5] Calendar plugin

2015-03-05 Thread Måns
Hi Jed

I'm trying to implement your Calendar in one of my TWs.
This particular TW is used to select songs to form a repertoire.
I select songs by tagging them with a checkbox.
Every day a create a new repertoire - and I need to be able to see when I 
last played a song and how often I have selected this particular song to be 
part of a repertoire. 

I was wondering:
Is it possible to make the checkbox tag a song AND set a new date field 
everytime I tag the song - like: field:date1 value:-0MM-0DD
Then I would have a new field and field value for each date that I choose 
that song to be part of a repertoire.

Next part would be to find out how to make links to tiddlers with different 
date field names (eg date1, date2, date3 etc) appear in the calendar..

Maybe I'm approaching this the wrong way - please give me a pointer if I 
should set it up another way

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Ps: If you want to see my repertoire list TW - I can pm a link and a 
password.. 


Den fredag den 27. februar 2015 kl. 19.40.48 UTC+1 skrev Jed Carty:

 With help from Astrid and BJ I made a widget that will, given a year and 
 month, generate a calendar for that month. You can give the widget a macro 
 that will be inserted into each day of the month to make the calendar do 
 what you want it to. By default it lists tiddlers that have a field for 
 that day and clicking on a day brings you to a tiddler whose title is the 
 date you clicked on.

 Here is a link to some documentation and the plugin: 
 http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Calendar%20Plugin

 On a slightly related note, does anyone other than me use this stuff or am 
 I just spamming the board showing off toys I made?


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[tw] Re: Use TinyMCE in TW5?

2015-03-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Looks like a cool WYSISWYG implementation, but has the same problem as the 
rest, they produce HTML not wikitext.

El jueves, 5 de marzo de 2015, 15:00:39 (UTC+1), Bill Denbigh escribió:

 I'm not technical so if this is a stupid question sorry... 

 Would it be possible to use TinyMCE as the editor in TW5?


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[tw] Re: keyboard shortcut and mouse gestures?

2015-03-05 Thread Patrick Detzner
I don't know about the double click thing, but one thing you could do is 
add that button to the list of the buttons that appear on every tiddler. 
Then it would be closer at hand.

I like the potential for keyboard shortcuts. I'll have to play around with 
that but give me a week or two and I may have a way for you to toggle the 
sidebar with a keyboard shortcut.

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:37:49 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I'd also like to know if there is a fast way to fold the sidebar other 
 than by clicking that tiny little   at the corner.

 On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Kakyo wrote:

 I used to be able to double click a tiddleler's editing area to start 
 editing it with TW classic.
 But with TW5, this doesn't work anymore.

 Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse gesture for this?
 I searched in TW.com and found there are only two keyboard shortcuts 
 there.



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Re: [tw] cloned from

2015-03-05 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Alex,

at the moment, I am rewriting the tiddlymap widget again in preparation
for the final release. I think when you clone a tiddler, tiddlymap could
trap/preprocess the message and create an edge to the newly cloned
tiddler which will eventually after some time create a visual map of the
cloning history. I will keep that idea in mind and maybe post an example
at some point when I am done writing the plugin ;)

-Felix

On 05.03.2015 11:23, Alex Hough wrote:
 I have just cloned a tiddler, and changed the title.
 I could put a link to the tiddler I cloned

 but 

 it would be more inline with the complexity of New Here

 if

 the new tiddler had an auto populated field containing the original



 just an idea


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[tw] Re: Footnote Plugin (TW5)

2015-03-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Sometimes there is no need to re create the weel.

Please have a look at : http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#PopupFootnotes

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Autocollaps TOC categories

2015-03-05 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi magev958,
 

 A follow-up question. TOC get sorted by the title but I would like to 
 sort it by caption . Where do I put that in the code?


If I interpret the code right, the second parameter of the macro seems to 
cater for a sort filter component like so...

toc-selective-single-expandable TableOfContents sort[caption]

You could sort by title first and then caption, in case there was no 
caption...

toc-selective-single-expandable TableOfContents 
sort[title]sort[caption]

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Autocollaps TOC categories

2015-03-05 Thread magev958
A follow-up question. TOC get sorted by the title but I would like to 
sort it by caption . Where do I put that in the code?
 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Autocollaps TOC categories

2015-03-05 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Andreas,

Can you see to it that this doesn't get buried in a discussion thread.
To me this feels like the best default behaviour, 
possibly alongside some live mode (later)
updating the toc so as to show the last opened / currently viewed tiddler.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] cloned from

2015-03-05 Thread Alex Hough
I have just cloned a tiddler, and changed the title.
I could put a link to the tiddler I cloned

but

it would be more inline with the complexity of New Here

if

the new tiddler had an auto populated field containing the original



just an idea


Alex

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Source of SVG visualizations (slightly off-topic)

2015-03-05 Thread Peter Miller
In similar vein, you can convert charts in Excel to SVG format in a 
slightly roundabout way, viz move them to their own tab, save to PDF, use 
cloudconvert.com to generate an SVG file and add it to Tw5 by 
drag-and-drop. I'm not sure whether that has any significant advantages but 
may be of interest until such time as a charting plugin becomes available.

bw

Peter

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 3:09:45 PM UTC, Peter Miller wrote:

 I don't know how long it will be there but RAW at 
 http://app.raw.densitydesign.org/ provides some nice visualizations and 
 specimen data. The exported SVG plays nicely with TiddlyWiki as far as I 
 can tell though I've yet to work out how to make it editable in SVG-Edit.


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Re: [tw] Re: tiddlyclip for chrome

2015-03-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Is there any plan to port tiddlyfox also to chrome? I would love to use 
chrome to save my wiki while using tiddlyclip.

Thanks.

El miércoles, 4 de marzo de 2015, 13:19:16 (UTC+1), BJ escribió:

 It looks like there is a problem with finding the configuration tiddler 
 (which is a shadow tiddler). 
 Try editing the TiddlyClipConfig tiddler - add or remove a blank line at 
 the end of the tiddler to make it a non-shadow tiddler and then reload the 
 tiddlywiki

 On 4 March 2015 at 05:10, Alex Hough r.a@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I am running on Node, so its http://127.0.0.1:8080/

 perhaps this is the cause?

 Alex

 On 4 March 2015 at 10:35, BJ bugg...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 that's a bug its not selecting the docked tiddlywiki- try clicking on 
 the address of the docked tiddlywiki (clck 'tiddlycut' then the address of 
 the tiddlywiki)

 cheers

 BJ

 On 4 March 2015 at 03:29, Alex Hough r.a@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hi BJ,

 I don't seem to get 'tiddlyclip as'

 I just see TiddlyCut see attached

 best wishes

 Alex

 On 2 March 2015 at 22:20, BJ bugg...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 should be ok now...


 On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 6:31:44 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:

 I get this error...
  

 Fehler beim Laden der Erweiterung aus: ~\Desktop\tiddlyclip
 JavaScript-Datei *content/util/logsimple.js* konnte nicht für das 
 Content-Skript geladen werden.


 Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Autocollaps TOC categories

2015-03-05 Thread Andreas Hahn

Am 05.03.2015 um 11:00 schrieb Tobias Beer:

Can you see to it that this doesn't get buried in a discussion thread.
To me this feels like the best default behaviour,


Maybe this can be added as an example to the official documentation, 
much like the TaskManagement example.


/Andreas

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Autocollaps TOC categories

2015-03-05 Thread Andreas Hahn

Am 05.03.2015 um 12:45 schrieb Tobias Beer:
You could sort by title first and then caption, in case there was no 
caption...


Am I wrong, or does this at most result in the tiddlers with an empty 
caption being sorted alphabetically by title ? And even that might not 
be guaranteed by the TW sort algorithm.
So what would be the advantage to sort it by title first ? (It does not 
produce a perfectly sorted output, does it ?)


/Andreas

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Re: [tw] Re: aliasing a username

2015-03-05 Thread Alex Hough
Bravo Eric!

On 5 March 2015 at 02:39, nathan.mcel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you both!

 On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 4:04:35 PM UTC-5, nathan@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I've not been able to keep up with all forum posts, but I've done a
 search with several terms to see if this was already asked/answered and
 could not find anything...

 In the Control Panel - Info - Basics, for Username for signing edits

 I would like to enter a username that links to a tiddler of another name.
 For example, I have a Tiddler called Contact that has my contact
 information. But I'd like to simply sign all edits with something like
 admin or my initials NRM.

 When I enter something like [[NRM|Contact]] into the username box, that
 exact string shows up as the editing username at the top of the tiddler (in
 italics) INSTEAD of just the letters NRM that would take me to the
 Contact tiddler.

 Is there a reason that this type of formatting works for the Tiddlywiki
 title, subtitle and default tiddlers but NOT for the Username?

 I also tried editing $:/status/UserName, and while it looks right in the
 text of that tiddler, the username under the tiddler name is still
 incorrect.

 Thanks for reading,
 Nate

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Re: [tw] cloned from

2015-03-05 Thread Alex Hough
Felix,

I like the idea of a clone trail.

its less meaningful that an hierarchy (new here) , more meaningful than a
new tiddler

There are trails though a TW - chronological, via tags, TiddlyLinks a
cloned trail would add another. potentially interesting in a review stage


Alex

On 5 March 2015 at 11:22, Felix Küppers felixkuepp...@hotmail.de wrote:

  Hi Alex,

 at the moment, I am rewriting the tiddlymap widget again in preparation
 for the final release. I think when you clone a tiddler, tiddlymap could
 trap/preprocess the message and create an edge to the newly cloned tiddler
 which will eventually after some time create a visual map of the cloning
 history. I will keep that idea in mind and maybe post an example at some
 point when I am done writing the plugin ;)

 -Felix


 On 05.03.2015 11:23, Alex Hough wrote:

 I have just cloned a tiddler, and changed the title.
 I could put a link to the tiddler I cloned

  but

 it would be more inline with the complexity of New Here

 if

 the new tiddler had an auto populated field containing the original



  just an idea


  Alex
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Autocollaps TOC categories

2015-03-05 Thread magev958
It's so simple that I should have figured it out myself :)

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Source of SVG visualizations (slightly off-topic)

2015-03-05 Thread Andreas Hahn

Hi Peter,

very interesting workarounds to get  charts into TW, I think for now 
that is about the best way to do it.
There are d3 widgets (namnely a bar chart and a cloud chart) available 
as a plugin in TW, however, they are very difficult to use in terms of 
input data formatting. Currently they require a specific json input, 
maybe someday they can handle csv data that could be pasted straight 
from excel. I think I also saw other widgets offering other chart types, 
but I am not sure.


/Andreas

Am 05.03.2015 um 15:35 schrieb Peter Miller:
In similar vein, you can convert charts in Excel to SVG format in a 
slightly roundabout way, viz move them to their own tab, save to PDF, 
use cloudconvert.com to generate an SVG file and add it to Tw5 by 
drag-and-drop. I'm not sure whether that has any significant 
advantages but may be of interest until such time as a charting plugin 
becomes available.


bw

Peter

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 3:09:45 PM UTC, Peter Miller wrote:

I don't know how long it will be there but RAW at
http://app.raw.densitydesign.org/
http://app.raw.densitydesign.org/ provides some nice
visualizations and specimen data. The exported SVG plays nicely
with TiddlyWiki as far as I can tell though I've yet to work out
how to make it editable in SVG-Edit.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Autocollaps TOC categories

2015-03-05 Thread Tobias Beer


 Am I wrong, or does this at most result in the tiddlers with an empty 
 caption being sorted alphabetically by title ? And even that might not be 
 guaranteed by the TW sort algorithm. So what would be the advantage to sort 
 it by title first ? (It does not produce a perfectly sorted output, does it 
 ?)


Tbh, I just assumed it would do what it says... as I'm sure that not all 
tiddler's have a caption. At second thought, you're right... what's the 
point of sorting by title if we have the default sorting algorithm from the 
tagging / list order. So, perhaps forget the title part. I guess, if we 
wanted it properly we'd also want to first sort by caption and then have 
the list-field order applied. Looks like  that's not an option, though.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Letting other widgets invoke actions/dispatch messages

2015-03-05 Thread BJ
Good stuff!
Instead of calling

this.invokeActions(event)

in the select widget, you could call it on its children:

for(var t=0; tthis.children.length; t++) {
var child = this.children[t];
invokeActions(event) ;  
}

and put the action widgets inside the 
option tags

cheers
BJ


On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 7:35:33 PM UTC-6, Jed Carty wrote:

 Now that I have some idea of how things work it is pretty simple to get 
 the select, link, radio and checkbox widgets to be able to trigger action 
 widgets, so here is a demo 
 http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/InvokingActions/.

 For the link and radio widgets there aren't any problems. For the checkbox 
 widget you need to use a reveal widget to give it different behavior for 
 checking and unchecking, so you can only give it different behavior in 
 5.1.8+.

 The select widget this may not be particularly useful the way I have it. 
 You can use reveal widgets like on the checkbox, but they are evaluated 
 using the current state of the wiki, not the new state after the select 
 widget changes. I would like to find a way to only have the actions in the 
 option you select happen, but I haven't found a way to do that yet.

 There is a bit more explanation in the demo, but most of it should be 
 pretty straightforward.

 I am hoping to make a pull request for at least the radio and link widgets 
 because they are the ones that can be used the easiest without anything 
 unexpected. 
 Because you would have to use a reveal widget to change what a checkbox 
 widget does for checking vs unchecking I am a bit concerned about it being 
 confusing for new users, and I am hoping someone has an idea to make it 
 work more intuitively.

 The select widget needs work. I am trying to get it to only trigger the 
 action widgets inside the option you pick, but I haven't had any success 
 getting the raw wikitext from each option entry.


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Re: [tw] Re: education.tw.com

2015-03-05 Thread Alex Hough
Scalar's intro video makes points relevant to TW.

The annotation of texts is an important aspect of learning: it appears to
do this well


Alex

On 2 March 2015 at 13:00, Peter Miller pmil...@liv.ac.uk wrote:

 Something else I've found useful is being able to email wikis to students,
 attach them to our VLE and provide updates that they can import to refresh
 their wikis. All self-evident but worth adding if they're not already in
 there.

 One specific use case being explored by a medical student is the use of
 TiddlyMap to produce annotated views of metabolism using TiddlyMap:
 http://danielriggins.com/mednotes (although I guess it would be polite to
 consult him before putting it on the site?)

 Incidentally, in terms of the feature set of an academic publishing
 platform, it might be worth a compare  contrast with
 http://scalar.usc.edu/features/overview/ . I don't mean this in any overt
 sense but as a way to think of areas where TiddlyWiki particularly shines.

 bw

 Peter

 On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 9:28:59 AM UTC, Richard Smith wrote:

 Hi All,

 At Jeremy's invitation, I am putting together materials for a tiddlywiki
 in education portal, to eventually be hosted under the main site and
 addressing the particular use-cases found in education.

 I'd really appreciate any feedback or input you might have about the site
 itself or the content that should appear on it.

 I've made a template for the site here;

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/education.tw.com.html

 Please feel free to edit it and publish it back at me with any
 improvements you would like to make in terms of function or form. I've also
 included a community consultation section listing some areas for
 discussion - I'd be really happy to get any feedback or contributions you'd
 like to make - either here in the forum or via wiki.

 Regards,
 Richard

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[tw] [TW5] Is there any way to incorporate a checklist into a TOC?

2015-03-05 Thread Raymond McDowell
Perhaps this is an odd request, but the way I keep track of where I am in 
my project listing is via checklists. I was wondering if it would be 
possible to combine a comprehensive site TOC incorporate a nested checklist.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there any way to incorporate a checklist into a TOC?

2015-03-05 Thread Jed Carty
To do this you would either create a new toc macro or edit one of the 
existing ones. You could start by looking at the macros I made so I could 
change the icons used 
http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Other%20TOC%20Macros. The macro 
my-toc-linked-selective-expandable-body at the bottom of that tiddler has a 
link widget in it, if you put your checkbox right before the link widget it 
will show up right before the name of each entry in your toc.

You can edit the macro in the core if you want, just remember that 
overwritten shadow tiddlers don't get upgraded when  you upgrade your wiki. 
If you do copy the macros to make your own version like I did you need 
versions of all three macros like I made, but only the 
my-toc-linked-selective-expandable-body has anything other than names 
changed.

And if you want the checkbox to be between the open/close icon and the 
tiddler title (I think it looks better that way), this would be the macro, 
just replace {{$:/settings/TableOfContentsSettings!!closed_image}} and 
{{$:/settings/TableOfContentsSettings!!open_image}} with what you want the 
closed and open images to be. Using this you still need the other two 
macros, but they can be the same as I have on my site. You may also want to 
change the tiddlers/fields the checkboxes use.

\define my-toc-linked-selective-expandable-body(tag,sort:,itemClassFilter)
$set name=toc-state value=qualify 
$:/state/toc/$tag$-$(currentTiddler)$
$set name=toc-item-class filter=$itemClassFilter$ 
value=toc-item-selected emptyValue=toc-item
li class=toc-item-class
$list filter=[all[current]tagging[]limit[1]] variable=ignore 
emptyMessage=$button 
class='tc-btn-invisible'{{$:/core/images/blank}}/$button$checkbox/
$reveal type=nomatch state=toc-state text=open
$button set=toc-state setTo=open class=tc-btn-invisible
{{$:/settings/TableOfContentsSettings!!closed_image}}
/$button
$checkbox/
/$reveal
$reveal type=match state=toc-state text=open
$button set=toc-state setTo=close class=tc-btn-invisible
{{$:/settings/TableOfContentsSettings!!open_image}}
/$button
$checkbox/
/$reveal
/$list
$link
toc-caption
/$link
$reveal type=match state=toc-state text=open
$macrocall $name=my-toc-selective-expandable tag=currentTiddler 
sort=$sort$ itemClassFilter=$itemClassFilter$/
/$reveal
/li
/$set
/$set
\end

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