Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Auto scrolling list of tiddler
Hi Magev958 Would it be possible to have a list of tiddler titles scroll from top to bottom like the after-text i a movie? I have a big TW with some 27000 tiddler and it would be fun to show them all :D Interesting. I've thought of something similar: a screen saver storyview that shows random tiddlers drifting across the screen, but lets you freeze the action by moving the mouse and clicking on a tiddler so that you can dive in and explore things that catch your interest. I was thinking that it might be a useful source of serendipity for creative stimulus purposes. I'd be hoping that we could make TiddlyDesktop hook into the OS as a true screensaver, too. Here's an old sketch from 2011 of the storyview switcher for TiddlyWiki 5: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/c2e99647d02f0bc8d16feac6039b49afb445bc14#diff-12b7f28a28eef72270ce72ba360bfa9c As you can see, I've been slowly making my through them - with the notable help of Felix Küppers who has implemented the link charts view. Best wishes Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAPKKYJaaHvG0BMLgjOgXw%2BEznouHScfZsyG5KSrdHsLFFDUXoQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] TWC Browsers on MobilePhones
Has anybody encontered a good browser to display TWC on a windowsphone? I just have changed to Windowsphone and none of the browsers i found there is able to display my Site like it works on Desktopbrowsers and simulators on Firefox. Horrible. Already Safari on Iphone had some Problems to display TWC correctly. Is this better on Android? Has Anybody found a better browser for WindowsPhone? Is this a mere TWClassic-Issue that will not be cured by the time but get worse? Yours Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/553A2904.8090900%40googlemail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Internal Javascript message upgrading to 5.1.8 from pre-release
Hi Jeremy, The previous instructions did allow the upgrade and the wiki appears to be working as normal. Should I revert to a previous version and apply the new instructions to that? Sorry to be a pain. Regards Jon On Friday, 24 April 2015 12:02:18 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: If you've got an 5.1.8-prerelease wiki that won't upgrade to the final release, you can try to fix it by first taking a backup, then opening the file in a text editor and using search and replace to replace #39; with a single quote. Save the file try opening it in the browser. Apologies, those instructions are incorrect. The correct string to search for is: amp;#39; Best wishes Jeremy. As others have noted this sorry saga is the definitive reason why everyone should avoid using the prerelease for anything important. Best wishes Jeremy. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jon five...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric, I can't try it again until later tonight but I think I did hit the drop zone because it presented the file with the option to import it, but I'll try again later. Thanks Jon On Tuesday, 21 April 2015 07:26:37 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: When I tried this and dropped the JSON file on to an empty 5.1.8 file and then imported it, I only see the JSON file and not my original tiddlers...? If you are dropping the file into an empty TW5, it is easy to miss the drop zone if you drop it randomly in the big empty space. Try dropping the file ** near the top of the document ** and make sure the green drop here message bar appears before you let go. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios YOUR DONATIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT! HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR... http://TiddlyTools.github.com/fundraising.html#MakeADonation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/76649de9-428e-4f30-b25d-9e84af6c4de0%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/76649de9-428e-4f30-b25d-9e84af6c4de0%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/628341b3-0196-4d38-87fc-3bf0f0d9e21e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: view zip files in tw5.1.8
Hi PMario It seems that everything is resolved; it turns out that the wiki was updated erroneously and the 1MB limit doesn't apply to data URIs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135354 Thanks for bringing up the issue. Best wishes Jeremy On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:29 AM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 9:29:18 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Mario see: Length limitations for the upcoming FF 39 [1], Which imo may be worth its own TW ticket :/ Ouch! Firefox 39 implements a 1MB limit on the size of data URIs. It basically means that you won't be able to save changes with the standalone HTML file configuration in Firefox without using TiddlyFox. The knock-on effect is that it will break the Download Empty button in GettingStarted, too. I did some tests with FF 39.a2 developer edition .. I did include a 2MB zip file an it seems to be saved as expected. So the FF developer branch seems to be not effected atm. ... Here's the ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135354 Sadly, I wasn't aware of it.There's no one in the thread making a case for a higher limit than 1MB, so they went ahead and implemented it. I think it would be worth some of us chiming in on the ticket I'll jump in if needed. ... Have you seen the reply to your post? -m -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAPKKYJYu34%2B8y%3DTSNVR7Mb5krobCJSCoxWDh6C-PQm7HMfPA6A%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Links from and to within same tiddler
Hi Mat I think we're recursing in circles. Your trying to make the case for a unit of content that is smaller than a tiddler. I'm responding with the suggestion that we instead introduce a new concept of a document (say) that is a sequence of tiddlers and is displayed analogously to a tiddler today. A document would, of course, itself be implemented as a tiddler that references it's constituent tiddlers. I believe that these two models are equivalent. The difference is that aggregating tiddlers goes with the grain of how TiddlyWiki is designed while splitting tiddlers into smaller entities requires TiddlyWiki to be re-architected. Best wishes Jeremy. On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote: @Jeremy - thank you for your reply. Ok, I had not quite understood this was the same as the issue with sections/slices. I particularly got excited from noting that adding a link as described (a href + a id) does succeed in jumping. But, ok, it's the frequently recurring section/slices issue. We need to solve this as there clearly is a need for it. I like your joining idea and have thought a bit on how it might be interfaced. @anyone - a simple mockup: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_5bUYW1Z2nk/VTfEgAKbvKI/RRY/jMVJNLtSQ5w/s1600/MergeTiddlers.png I imagine it as a popup accessed via the tiddler toolbar. For example one might want to *Append* current tiddler to the one *above* and set current title as *h2* heading. I know terms above/below sound funny but preceeding/succeeding is ambiguous because of different story views. Above/below is strictly about location whereas terms preceeding/succeeding has an element of time in them. (...um, did someone just shout *nrd*?) titles list is a search field. Maybe this is not possible inside a dropdown and it must really be two widgets? Ideally there is *also a global merge/compound feature* from e.g the document toolbar, allowing you to select e.g all open tiddlers or filter. Obviously, if the tiddler head is hidden one also has to solve how to dis-compound without that tiddlers toolbar visible. One idea could be an check-box list in the top tiddlers head, aggregating the compounded titles. It would probably have much in common with a Table of Contents for multiple compound tiddlers anyway so I'd think it's a reusable thing @Jeremy I've found the current lack for procedure to include sections has the exact opposite effect on my work from what I must assume is the purpose, i.e that of reusing tiddlers to avoid redundancy. Currently, I'm instead forced to *copy* sections of interest from other tiddlers. I thought about why this happens and realize that the whole concept of a tiddler is ambiguous because, as it turns out, what is a smallest semantically meaningful chunk depends on context! For example, the sentence To be or not to be, that is the question is an integral part in its original context, but as a quote it has a totally different context and must typically be cut out. An area of particular concern for this issue is the coming Federation! As far as I understand, one primary idea there is to be able to re-use content. A different context from the original will likely be the norm ( - little point in mere repetition) so tools to slice out stuff will be much needed... and, ideally, slices smaller than an actual tiddler. Here follow some pie-in-the-sky ideas on approaches for including sections in a Federated context, mostly to provoke thoughts on what needs we will actually have when we Federate so we don't lock ourselves in by choosing limited implementation strategies at an early stage: Ok, one idea might be to remotely transclude (or whatever the technique is for inclusion) the whole tiddler and then to *locally* hide parts of it. Another idea might be to, pre-inclusion, introduce counting to specify desired parts to include (...perhaps taking advantage of the nodejs row counting feature somehow?) tiddler#r3:8@wiki or p for paragraphs, etc. If this is not possible pre-inclusion, then maybe this is how hiding parts in imported local tiddlers, as per previous suggestion, could be achieved. A probably better idea would be some kind of anchors that are automatically inserted, in the transclusion process, from various triggers, such as paragraph start, macro calls, etc. Maybe that same kind of anchor could *also* be manually inserted. :-) -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit
[tw] Re: [TW5] Auto scrolling list of tiddler
Yes, it is totally unnecessary but just for fun. If you had a tiddler from top to bottom of the screen (~ 30 rows) with one title per row and a row disappear every 0.2 sec, it would still take 1.5 hours :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4bc3df86-d532-435e-8192-3da8deeef735%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Palette causing TypeError: rgbColourA is null
Hi Rustem Also, you probably want to swap A and B in lines 41-42. Thanks, fixed here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/3c7082e1816013dd0111f8f6c1459c97ac63fa26 Best wishes Jeremy. Cheers. R. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAPKKYJYKDbwxsARucNHKA9d-TxMgmOT9dP32a7hwf%2BvzCgXBaQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Auto scrolling list of tiddler
As you can see, I've been slowly making my through them - with the notable help of Felix Küppers who has implemented the link charts view. Hehe, thanks :) Screensaver and Command Line view - This completely proves that you envisioned TiddlyWiki to become an operating system that runs in the browser :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/BLU437-SMTP69D933360C8D67DD10717ACEEC0%40phx.gbl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a way to change a backslash to a slash in a path string?
Hi Martin, I'm not sure why TW wants slashes. ... I did a short test with win8.1 [ext[.\readme.txt]] and it does exactly what it should. It opened the redme.txt file in the browser. ... So can you be more exact, how your non working links look like? -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7bb57277-e394-4ffe-8578-7d0a789c3514%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Internal Javascript message upgrading to 5.1.8 from pre-release
If you've got an 5.1.8-prerelease wiki that won't upgrade to the final release, you can try to fix it by first taking a backup, then opening the file in a text editor and using search and replace to replace #39; with a single quote. Save the file try opening it in the browser. Apologies, those instructions are incorrect. The correct string to search for is: amp;#39; Best wishes Jeremy. As others have noted this sorry saga is the definitive reason why everyone should avoid using the prerelease for anything important. Best wishes Jeremy. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jon five...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric, I can't try it again until later tonight but I think I did hit the drop zone because it presented the file with the option to import it, but I'll try again later. Thanks Jon On Tuesday, 21 April 2015 07:26:37 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: When I tried this and dropped the JSON file on to an empty 5.1.8 file and then imported it, I only see the JSON file and not my original tiddlers...? If you are dropping the file into an empty TW5, it is easy to miss the drop zone if you drop it randomly in the big empty space. Try dropping the file ** near the top of the document ** and make sure the green drop here message bar appears before you let go. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios YOUR DONATIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT! HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR... http://TiddlyTools.github.com/fundraising.html#MakeADonation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/76649de9-428e-4f30-b25d-9e84af6c4de0%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/76649de9-428e-4f30-b25d-9e84af6c4de0%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAPKKYJayo-RR0ko5-Mf0mGtzRGJRW%2BN2_PefjsM9rceMxYfgXw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a way to import multiple tiddlers from a single file?
+1 My workflow has been to import csv file to TWc via Eric's CreateTiddlersFromCsv and then drop the TWc on a TW5 to import all tiddlers at once. The tedious part is then to click/accept to convert every imported tiddler from TW classic format to a TW5 format. It is tedious when you have 300+ tiddlers to convert. I guess it should be ok with a few tiddlers... There is an online csv to JSON converter here: http://www.convertcsv.com/csv-to-json.htm I haven't tried it out yet... If you drag a correctly formated JSON file on to a TW5 it should generate tiddlers - again I haven't tried it out. Good luck - and please tell how it goes. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den fredag den 24. april 2015 kl. 15.41.55 UTC+2 skrev stevesuny: Resurrecting an old thread, yet again...I have the same challenge (a spreadsheet file where each line becomes a tiddler, with separate column for title, text, tags, etc.. I need to help students import a large number of tiddlers (5 to 200 or more) that they create through spreadsheet manipulation. In TWClassic on tiddlyspace, we use the Tiddlytools plugin http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV. As I contemplate moving classes from TWClassic to TW5, I need to replicate that functionality, for non-technical users. The responses above reference scripts etc. that are beyond my expertise, and certainly that of my students. How do to this in TW5. Maybe I just don't know how to run the load-file command? Thanks! //steve. On Saturday, November 9, 2013 at 4:56:36 PM UTC-5, Arkady Grudzinsky wrote: I have a text file where each line is a list item. I would like to import this file in my TW5 and create a separate tiddler for each line. I also would like to specify tags and some fields for each tiddler. .tid files do not allow multiple tiddlers in one file. I thought, HTML would work with something like this div title=Tiddler 1 tags=task start=201311080800 priority=5Tiddler 1 text/div div title=Tiddler 2 tags=task start=201311080800 priority=6Tiddler 2 text/div etc. But it did not work. I get one tiddler with type=text/html with file name as a title and this HTML code inside. I could, of course, create a Perl or an awk script to produce one .tid file per line, but it seems like too much effort. Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dffd4c7c-fb02-4519-9ffb-9a96ca5264fc%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a way to import multiple tiddlers from a single file?
Resurrecting an old thread, yet again...I have the same challenge (a spreadsheet file where each line becomes a tiddler, with separate column for title, text, tags, etc.. I need to help students import a large number of tiddlers (5 to 200 or more) that they create through spreadsheet manipulation. In TWClassic on tiddlyspace, we use the Tiddlytools plugin http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV (http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV. As I contemplate moving classes from TWClassic to TW5, I need to replicate that functionality, for non-technical users. The responses above reference scripts etc. that are beyond my expertise, and certainly that of my students. How do to this in TW5. Maybe I just don't know how to run the load-file command? Thanks! //steve. On Saturday, November 9, 2013 at 4:56:36 PM UTC-5, Arkady Grudzinsky wrote: I have a text file where each line is a list item. I would like to import this file in my TW5 and create a separate tiddler for each line. I also would like to specify tags and some fields for each tiddler. .tid files do not allow multiple tiddlers in one file. I thought, HTML would work with something like this div title=Tiddler 1 tags=task start=201311080800 priority=5Tiddler 1 text/div div title=Tiddler 2 tags=task start=201311080800 priority=6Tiddler 2 text/div etc. But it did not work. I get one tiddler with type=text/html with file name as a title and this HTML code inside. I could, of course, create a Perl or an awk script to produce one .tid file per line, but it seems like too much effort. Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c312fe30-8b06-4ff3-ba58-3459a272cce4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a way to import multiple tiddlers from a single file?
Of course, writing out the problems leads to its solution (at least
partially).
I've discovered that, as promised above, a properly formatted json file, as:
[
{title:Tiddler1,text:This is the text of tiddler 1,tags:Tag1
Tag2 [[Tag 3]]},
{title:Tiddler2,text:This is the text of tiddler 2, with a link
to [[Tiddler1]],tags:Tag1 Tag4}
]
saved as, for example, tiddlers.json
can then be imported using the native import in TW5, and then click on
import, and all tiddlers get created.
I'm now working on generating json files from spreadsheet. Here is a link
for a script for google sheets:
http://blog.pamelafox.org/2013/06/exporting-google-spreadsheet-as-json.html
It looks reasonable, and I'll work on it today.
As always, once discovered, it seems straightforward. Thanks, Jeremy, for
the file structure that you put in a few years ago which got me headed in
the right direction.
//steve.
On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-4, Måns wrote:
+1
My workflow has been to import csv file to TWc via Eric's
CreateTiddlersFromCsv and then drop the TWc on a TW5 to import all tiddlers
at once.
The tedious part is then to click/accept to convert every imported tiddler
from TW classic format to a TW5 format.
It is tedious when you have 300+ tiddlers to convert. I guess it should be
ok with a few tiddlers...
There is an online csv to JSON converter here:
http://www.convertcsv.com/csv-to-json.htm I haven't tried it out yet...
If you drag a correctly formated JSON file on to a TW5 it should generate
tiddlers - again I haven't tried it out.
Good luck - and please tell how it goes.
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
Den fredag den 24. april 2015 kl. 15.41.55 UTC+2 skrev stevesuny:
Resurrecting an old thread, yet again...I have the same challenge (a
spreadsheet file where each line becomes a tiddler, with separate column
for title, text, tags, etc.. I need to help students import a large number
of tiddlers (5 to 200 or more) that they create through spreadsheet
manipulation. In TWClassic on tiddlyspace, we use the Tiddlytools plugin
http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV.
As I contemplate moving classes from TWClassic to TW5, I need to
replicate that functionality, for non-technical users. The responses above
reference scripts etc. that are beyond my expertise, and certainly that of
my students.
How do to this in TW5. Maybe I just don't know how to run the load-file
command?
Thanks!
//steve.
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 at 4:56:36 PM UTC-5, Arkady Grudzinsky
wrote:
I have a text file where each line is a list item. I would like to
import this file in my TW5 and create a separate tiddler for each line. I
also would like to specify tags and some fields for each tiddler.
.tid files do not allow multiple tiddlers in one file.
I thought, HTML would work with something like this
div title=Tiddler 1 tags=task start=201311080800
priority=5Tiddler 1 text/div
div title=Tiddler 2 tags=task start=201311080800
priority=6Tiddler 2 text/div
etc.
But it did not work. I get one tiddler with type=text/html with file
name as a title and this HTML code inside.
I could, of course, create a Perl or an awk script to produce one .tid
file per line, but it seems like too much effort.
Any suggestions?
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[tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Branding/UI Studies
I will leave creating the theme to someone with a better eye for graphic design than I have, but I am working on that sort of popout menu. I have a simple macro version here http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/Text%20Menus/upgrade.html, there will need to be some fancier css to set the height and widths correctly, but I don't think that will be too terribly difficult. In your mockups the search bar is always present but you have a dedicated search menu. Do you want this to open the search menu whenever you start typing or is it supposed to search through the tab you have open? I could see both being useful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d68fbda6-1505-45b3-8e87-f212af5fba2f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Links from and to within same tiddler
This seems like exactly what substories would do, but I have had absolutely no success figuring out how either the story list of history list actually works. I have been looking at this because the way that the list field of the story list is manipulated could be very useful in other contexts. In the creating substories tiddler http://tiddlywiki.com/#Creating%20SubStories on tiddlywiki.com it seems like you should be able to put in a button that sends the tm-navigate message to take you to a tiddler in that substory the same way you could for a tiddler in the main story river. This doesn't work, but I haven't been able to find anywhere to figure out how the story and history lists work (also the link catcher widget, I have no idea what that does). Is there anywhere I could look to see how the story and history lists work before I start poking the code? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2bafadd2-aaaf-40af-9b05-cfde761925a1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Creating a new tiddler with fields and adding a button to the view template
Unfortunately my answer to the first part of your question is 'I don't know', but I do have an alternate solution. I have never figured out how to use the new tiddler message like that, I have always used the action-setfield widget instead. Because my brain doesn't want to focus on actual work today, I wrote a bit about how to make the button here http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#How%20to%20make%20a%20button%20like%20the%20%27New%20Here%27%20button. It kinda rambles a bit, but it should cover what is needed. If anyone can tell us how to use the paramObject as an input to the tm-new-tiddler message that would be awesome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6a34aae6-b231-467d-992a-7e542e4fe0a6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a way to import multiple tiddlers from a single file?
Hi Steve
You'll probably have seen the current built-in support for CSV files in
TW5: dragging or importing a file results in a single tiddler containing
the entire CSV file. There's a special parser for text/csv tiddlers so that
the content gets displayed as a nicely formatted HTML table.
The approach I favour for making the CSV importing more flexible is
actually to add facilities for accessing and manipulating the content of
CSV tiddlers, rather than extending the import process itself. I like the
idea of maintaining CSV as a native format, not just an import format - we
could integrate a JavaScript spreadsheet engine like SocialCalc (see
http://tiddlywiki.com/rboue's%20plugins%20for%20TiddlyWiki)/
Adding basic support for referencing rows and cells in CSV tiddlers would
be fairly straightforward - it would largely mirror the existing
implementation for access to property indexes within data tiddlers (aka
JSON tiddlers). I'd be happy to guide anyone interested in working on a
pull request.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:01 PM, stevesuny steves...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course, writing out the problems leads to its solution (at least
partially).
I've discovered that, as promised above, a properly formatted json file,
as:
[
{title:Tiddler1,text:This is the text of tiddler
1,tags:Tag1 Tag2 [[Tag 3]]},
{title:Tiddler2,text:This is the text of tiddler 2, with a link
to [[Tiddler1]],tags:Tag1 Tag4}
]
saved as, for example, tiddlers.json
can then be imported using the native import in TW5, and then click on
import, and all tiddlers get created.
I'm now working on generating json files from spreadsheet. Here is a link
for a script for google sheets:
http://blog.pamelafox.org/2013/06/exporting-google-spreadsheet-as-json.html
It looks reasonable, and I'll work on it today.
As always, once discovered, it seems straightforward. Thanks, Jeremy, for
the file structure that you put in a few years ago which got me headed in
the right direction.
//steve.
On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-4, Måns wrote:
+1
My workflow has been to import csv file to TWc via Eric's
CreateTiddlersFromCsv and then drop the TWc on a TW5 to import all tiddlers
at once.
The tedious part is then to click/accept to convert every imported
tiddler from TW classic format to a TW5 format.
It is tedious when you have 300+ tiddlers to convert. I guess it should
be ok with a few tiddlers...
There is an online csv to JSON converter here:
http://www.convertcsv.com/csv-to-json.htm I haven't tried it out yet...
If you drag a correctly formated JSON file on to a TW5 it should generate
tiddlers - again I haven't tried it out.
Good luck - and please tell how it goes.
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
Den fredag den 24. april 2015 kl. 15.41.55 UTC+2 skrev stevesuny:
Resurrecting an old thread, yet again...I have the same challenge (a
spreadsheet file where each line becomes a tiddler, with separate column
for title, text, tags, etc.. I need to help students import a large number
of tiddlers (5 to 200 or more) that they create through spreadsheet
manipulation. In TWClassic on tiddlyspace, we use the Tiddlytools plugin
http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV.
As I contemplate moving classes from TWClassic to TW5, I need to
replicate that functionality, for non-technical users. The responses above
reference scripts etc. that are beyond my expertise, and certainly that of
my students.
How do to this in TW5. Maybe I just don't know how to run the load-file
command?
Thanks!
//steve.
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 at 4:56:36 PM UTC-5, Arkady Grudzinsky
wrote:
I have a text file where each line is a list item. I would like to
import this file in my TW5 and create a separate tiddler for each line. I
also would like to specify tags and some fields for each tiddler.
.tid files do not allow multiple tiddlers in one file.
I thought, HTML would work with something like this
div title=Tiddler 1 tags=task start=201311080800
priority=5Tiddler 1 text/div
div title=Tiddler 2 tags=task start=201311080800
priority=6Tiddler 2 text/div
etc.
But it did not work. I get one tiddler with type=text/html with file
name as a title and this HTML code inside.
I could, of course, create a Perl or an awk script to produce one .tid
file per line, but it seems like too much effort.
Any suggestions?
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Re: [tw] Re: view zip files in tw5.1.8
The docs indicated that zip format was available but didn't say how to use it. The github docs are too arcane for me to understand. Seems like a pretty useless feature. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:50 AM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, FireFox can't dig into zip files out of the box. May be there are addons, that can enable such a behaviour. Depending on your operating system, your file browser can open and show zip file content. .. But to do this there have to be the right drivers installed. What makes you think TW can do this? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/_MOJRvV2sFo/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2fe7b6fe-9c31-4f1f-a44b-4e6b7956937e%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2fe7b6fe-9c31-4f1f-a44b-4e6b7956937e%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAKRVyuWTB9OOR0Mix%2BKZae8HKMTVkTkJ5qza9U-VeZAj-_t-iw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] A start on a theme for mobile devices (and yet another task list idea)
I started out by trying to make a new task list a few hours ago and ended up with what I am hoping to use for the basis of a theme for mobile devices. One day I may actually plan what I am going to do instead of just poking things until something interesting falls out. I used the icon menus plugin I made to put everything from the normal sidebar into popups toggled by icons on the left side of the screen. There are icons along the right side that open up tiddlers for specific applications (at the moment a task list, a contacts database, bookmarks and a library tracker from my plugins). The icons can be moved around however you would like through the icon menu settings in the control panel. The task list I made lets you add categories and subcategories to tasks. I that is probably the only part that is all that interesting there. I still need to add a search function and sorting. At the last hangout someone (I think Eric. Thanks!) showed me how to make popups that don't go away if you click inside them, and how to set css dimensions based on viewing area size. Both of these are used a lot. Here is the current demo http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/NewBrainTest/. The only thing I have been able to test it on other than my desktop is my tablet, so I have no idea how it looks or if it is usable on phones or smaller tablets. Does anyone have any suggestions/requests for what should be added? I have no idea what sort of configuration things people would want for this sort of thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/020d40a2-bef0-4af4-81ed-1452bd510f9f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a way to change a backslash to a slash in a path string?
Hi Mario, you are right, this isn't a problem in the first place! Somehow (don't know why) I was thinking that only slashes are possible, but obviously backslashes work as well! Thank you for this hint, makes my life much easier! Martin Am Freitag, 24. April 2015 11:13:51 UTC+2 schrieb PMario: Hi Martin, I'm not sure why TW wants slashes. ... I did a short test with win8.1 [ext[.\readme.txt]] and it does exactly what it should. It opened the redme.txt file in the browser. ... So can you be more exact, how your non working links look like? -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c41eb8fc-b78e-4b62-becd-7fc9ad739777%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Links from and to within same tiddler
I have to agree with Jeremy. Tiddlywiki is different than Wikipedia. Wikipedia uses links to jump to places in an article precisely because it isnt as easy in Wikipedia to create small chunks as it is in TiddlyWiki. So in TiddlyWiki, one should just create TOC tiddler with links to chunks, or a story tiddler composed of those chunks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/df55bfbd-1240-41be-b27b-0991b3b19ae2%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Internal Javascript message upgrading to 5.1.8 from pre-release
Hi Jon The previous instructions did allow the upgrade and the wiki appears to be working as normal. Should I revert to a previous version and apply the new instructions to that? I would advise doing a search and replace for the corrected string on your current file (having backed it up). The reason is that the incorrectly encoded single quotes will display OK in body text, but not be interpreted correctly when used to quote attributes of widgets or HTML elements (for example). So you might still have some of the incorrectly encoded quotes without necessarily being aware. Best wishes Jeremy. Sorry to be a pain. Regards Jon On Friday, 24 April 2015 12:02:18 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: If you've got an 5.1.8-prerelease wiki that won't upgrade to the final release, you can try to fix it by first taking a backup, then opening the file in a text editor and using search and replace to replace #39; with a single quote. Save the file try opening it in the browser. Apologies, those instructions are incorrect. The correct string to search for is: amp;#39; Best wishes Jeremy. As others have noted this sorry saga is the definitive reason why everyone should avoid using the prerelease for anything important. Best wishes Jeremy. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jon five...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric, I can't try it again until later tonight but I think I did hit the drop zone because it presented the file with the option to import it, but I'll try again later. Thanks Jon On Tuesday, 21 April 2015 07:26:37 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 11:03:33 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: When I tried this and dropped the JSON file on to an empty 5.1.8 file and then imported it, I only see the JSON file and not my original tiddlers...? If you are dropping the file into an empty TW5, it is easy to miss the drop zone if you drop it randomly in the big empty space. Try dropping the file ** near the top of the document ** and make sure the green drop here message bar appears before you let go. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios YOUR DONATIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT! HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR... http://TiddlyTools.github.com/fundraising.html#MakeADonation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/76649de9-428e-4f30-b25d-9e84af6c4de0%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/76649de9-428e-4f30-b25d-9e84af6c4de0%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAPKKYJaW-QMRsKxTPULZHuxXb1S6t6s79Dgyd_BzPmn7df0Hrw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto scrolling list of tiddler
magev958, 27000 tiddlers is an impressive number and I would assume that would cause some performance problems. Could you share your experiences on what hampers the performance (speed) of a tiddlywiki, what improves it, and what are the NoNos which slow a TW down. I assume, your giant TW is not a standalone, but runs on a server like node or something similar? What is the nature of the tiddlers - title onle? or text? or PDFs ? documents? How did you create this enormous number of tiddlers, by typing them by hand? TiddlyClip? or do you have an import-tool, like save my giant excel sheet in one folder as .tid files (ok, that was a joke, I assume this tool does not exist) Does it make a difference if the .tid files are in the tiddlers folder of the Node or in sub-folders? Does it make a difference if the tiddlers ar binary PDF-files? I muse about converting a document library of PDFs (more than 4 GB and growing) into a Node-based TW. I am running a dozen TWs as standalone, and one on Node.js and I wonder: could I merge them all, and if - how? Maybe if you could find the time to share your knowledge... would be much appreciated. Kindly Pit.W Am 23.04.2015 um 12:38 schrieb magev958: Would it be possible to have a list of tiddler titles scroll from top to bottom like the after-text i a movie? I have a big TW with some 27000 tiddler and it would be fun to show them all :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9e1b1ee5-e0d3-462d-b2d3-cf08e5e1b777%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9e1b1ee5-e0d3-462d-b2d3-cf08e5e1b777%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/553A8686.805%40eclipso.ch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto scrolling list of tiddler
Hi Pit.W, do you have an import-tool, like save my giant excel sheet in one folder as .tid files (ok, that was a joke, I assume this tool does not exist) I did just that to import the old Testament into TiddlyWiki :) https://groups.google.com/forum/tiddlywiki/6H1xh8mjnMI/WC6s0H7ny4kJ Regards, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bdc6479a-6997-46cb-ab80-2d5b91085733%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: view zip files in tw5.1.8
On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 4:58:09 PM UTC+2, Thomas Schulte wrote: The docs indicated that zip format was available but didn't say how to use it. The github docs are too arcane for me to understand. I know, that github is arcane for many users. That's why I did dig deeper and created a 3rd response, that should shed some more light to the topic. Seems like a pretty useless feature. As I wrote in my 3rd response. It's the first step to implement some functions which several users demanded, that actually make sense. .. Just because it doesn't exactly do what you expected, doesn't mean it's useless. Your kind words are highly motivating for me. Thanks for your feedback. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d0f01735-96d7-47ac-ace5-c45dc28bb0a1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Creating a new tiddler with fields and adding a button to the view template
I see in the documentation that the new tiddler message can take a paramObject that is a hashmap of fields the new tiddler can have. What does the hashmap look like, and how do I add a button to the view template that will create this tiddler with the current tiddler as a tag (like the create here button). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/415e064f-1f02-42bc-871c-bd1a1c14594d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
