[tw] Re: Keep vertical tabs in position when scrolling

2015-06-03 Thread Mat


 I'm pretty new to TW and I'm stunned by the possibilities! What an awesome 
 tool!


Just make sure you spread http://tiddlywiki.com/#HelpingTiddlyWikithe joy 
;-)

tabs [tag[tm ... 

I don't know if this is the most efficient way, but it works :-)


If (if!) *all *tags starting with tm are intended for tabs then there is 
definitely a more elegant way. Tell me if this is the case and I'll do some 
testing. It's really simple it's just that I would have to test it so I 
don't give the wrong instructions. 

Or perhaps you may want to check out the Table of Content macros 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Table-of-Contents%20Macros (which would be more 
problematic for the vertical scrolling request tho)


However, how can I achieve it that the vertical tabs on the left side stay 
 in place, when I scroll the protocols? Is this possible?


To understand your request, when you scroll the protocols do you mean 
scrolling the page scroll? Or which scroll?
 

:-)
TWaddle.tiddlyspot

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Copying refence guide

2015-06-03 Thread Mat
On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 3:31:02 PM UTC+2, Greg Davis wrote:

 Hi,
 You can download the 'entire' TiddlyWiki site 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted for 


I believe Alan is only concerned with TWC though (no?) 

But, actually, what is the Reference Guide?


:-)
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[tw] [OFFTOPIC] cloudwall, an OS on the browser

2015-06-03 Thread Måns
Hi Danielo

Great way to be able to store data locally and syncronize to one or several 
couchDb hosts online from all your devices at once! Thank you for sharing it!

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] [OFFTOPIC] cloudwall, an OS on the browser

2015-06-03 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello everyone,

Sorry for the off-topic, but I though this would be of the interest of many 
more here. CloudWall is an aplication, close to an OS, that runs entirely 
on the browser.
It uses jQuery and several plugins to build the UI and localstorage to 
persist changes. It allows you to sync between multiple devices using couch.

The very cool thing about it, is that it has an app-creator. You can create 
cloudwall apps from cloudwall. Those apps is just a collection of json 
objects, html files, and css sheets, and everything can be packed into a 
single HTML file. Does it sound familiar? Apps can run inside cloudwall or 
be exported to run as individual html files.

I think TW can benefit just by taking a look at it because the philosophy 
seems to be very similar. The app editor is a cool thing, and from my point 
of view is similar to my way of working with TW: a set of separate files 
that I know then are packed together by TW core.

Please, take a look: http://cloudwall.me/

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Copying refence guide

2015-06-03 Thread Greg Davis
Oops, missed that, thought he was referring to the Reference section at 
Tiddlywiki.com Seems to have been a few more questions on TWC than usual 
recently.

I remember TWC and copy and paste tiddlers, like Basic Formatting, into my 
empty TW to make my own master with references. I think I eventually found 
a way that was a bit easier but don't remember details now. I forget how to 
transfer tiddlers from one TW to another in TWC.

Sorry, Alan, you still should be able save a copy of the site 
http://classic.tiddlywiki.com/ locally for reference.

Greg

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transclude first paragraph or similar

2015-06-03 Thread Rustem


This is a bit late, but here’s my solution that returns the first line (not 
paragraph), using nothing but core functionality. Copy it literally 
(including new line as splitbefore’s parameter) into a test tiddler.

$list filter=[{$:/ControlPanel}splitbefore[
]] variable=firstLine$text text=firstLine//$list

—R

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 4:41:40 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:

@Mike - thank you for your input and sorry for late reply.

 With your pointers it does work now; http://match.tiddlyspot.com/

 But I do suspect the use of $tw is inappropriate and he also comments that 
 /*global $tw: false */ which may be an indiction of this? I also get 
 the surrounding brackets, which I'm guessing is a failed attempt att 
 creating a link from the output?

 It seems like a very useful Filter operator for picking parts out of 
 fields using regular expressions  so hopefully someone will create a 
 fully satisfying version eventually.

 FYI, I intended to use it to transclude the first paragraph for the ToDo 
 list http://fastnewtiddler.tiddlyspot.com/#Todo%20(please%20help) in 
 fastnewtiddler but instead went with using a solution from Tobias to 
 transclude a field into the text that then appears to be the first 
 paragraph in the tiddler text and is reused in the ToDo-list. A bit 
 backward but...

 :-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] GUI Theme Tweaks Size Settings

2015-06-03 Thread Mat
@Jed

You've got some seriously interesting stuff there!!! Access to maximum 
control while simultaneously not overwhelming the user does in deed seem a 
tricky problem. But I reason that if those major web search engines can 
make sense out of zillions of webpages, then surely we'll figure something 
out for a few hundred tweaks.

First of all, I think locating a setting is one thing and presenting it is 
another. Not that you've contradicted this, I'm just sayin', because I 
think we can deal with the issues separately. 

For *locating *something as abstract as, for instance, some particular CSS 
setting, I think the solution is to attach all imaginable search terms to 
it. Your demo http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/ControlPanelAddon/ seems 
to indicate you reason like this too. When we eventually federate, it would 
be really useful to let the world attach e.g tags to settings for quick 
search localization. However (and this problem keeps coming up for me) tags 
in their current implementation or presentation are not very good for 
search as you're limited to very few tags per tiddler or it simply looks 
bad visually. They're probably better for categorization than as search 
terms. As you may know, I and others have brought up the issue many times 
(tag types and similar terms, as well as hiding tags). Tobias made a solution 
http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Search%20By%20Keywords%20Tabwith 
keywords - maybe it is useful for the Settings context we're discussing 
here? For Settings it is probably not necessary that the user actually sees 
all meta-search-data so might be useful.

Like you indicate with your demo 
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/ControlPanelAddon/, I think tagging 
(or comparable) would be a key aspect in this. 

Your modified version http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/OtherMindMap/ that 
allows searching tags within different contexts should be very useful, 
particularly as it could allow tagging (or similar) more freely. If users 
are to be able allowed to tag, then we can expect tags like important! or 
good and to have such results appear in context should be very useful.

Do you know of the old Tagsplorer macro? It feels related or at least 
relevant to check out. Unfortunately the hosting site for it is down, but I 
found this discussion 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/KYbX766Ftu8/K4DHi9mcTb0J.



I really like the mobile menus 
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fooktech.com%2Fjed%2FExampleWikis%2FText%2520Menus%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFiqQ9tz3kVu_bvKHnwPQ2f4kXXqw
 thinking! 
Brilliant to let the irrelevant menu items disappear. Did *@Jeremy* see 
this - as option to his system tiddler explorer 
http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/index.html#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FMoreSideBar%2FExplore,
 
which he is not happy with?


Here is a quick demo 
 http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/ControlPanelAddon/ of what I am 
 talking about. I was going to use your sliders to set the values but I 
 can't figure out how to make them work.


Is this answered with Erics reply, or is it some other aspect? I'd be happy 
to explain so please tell me what is unclear.

 

 If I can make the I would like to have one of the sub-menus (called 'Page 
 Layout' or something similar) be the adjustments you have for 
 tiddler/sidebar positioning and move the font options into an appropriate 
 sub-menu of their own.


The font options are a bit problematic because when you change them, the 
whole page can change which makes the fontsliders move. This is why I put 
them in a fixed box. If we get the min/max/step working, then this might be 
less problematic.

 

 I think that instead of having the text input like I have now, each option 
 should be a slider with a select widget that lets you pick the desired unit 
 and have the options on the slider adjust to be appropriate for the 
 selected unit (so 1-100 when using %, vh or vw, some range for em, and 
 another range for px and so on).


I agree that different units are appropropriate depending on which setting, 
but to have a select widget seems more cluttery than useful to me. 

Unless you mean another idea I've been thinking of: To have *one *single 
slider, for which you select setting, perhaps from a select widget. A 
central slider to which you bring whatever it is you want set. Then, 
maybe, a unit selector might make sense unless it is not already coded as 
meta data to the thing you want to set.

 

 I think that using what you have made will let us make something to allow 
 users to make fine adjustments without requiring any knowledge of the inner 
 workings of tiddlywiki or css. 


Exactly! The unnecessary knowledge and information should be cut out. The 
user should be able to focus on working *with *TW, not *on *TW. *Content*, 
not TW per se. (Unless he wants to, like most guys *here *do.) I like range 
sliders because they don't force you to know arbitrary numbers of pixels, 
or even pixels for that matter. 


But, returning to 

[tw] Re: [TW5] GUI Theme Tweaks Size Settings

2015-06-03 Thread Mat
@Jed - I don't know of you read these messages via mail, in which case I've 
understood that edits are not reflected so please read the post above this 
one as it is currently.

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[tw] Keep vertical tabs in position when scrolling

2015-06-03 Thread gemini0x4d
Hi

I'm pretty new to TW and I'm stunned by the possibilities! What an awesome 
tool!

I have a question regarding the tabs feature. I'm trying to keep track of 
team meeting protocols, so I created a tiddler for each meeting. I have one 
overview tiddler that uses vertical tabs to gather all protocols. 
Currently, I added a dedicated tag to each protocol (tm01012015, 
tm20032015, etc.) and create the overview tiddler just like this:


tabs 
[tag[tm19052015]][tag[tm28042015]][tag[tm14042015]][tag[tm25032015]][tag[tm04032015]][tag[tm10022015]][tag[tm27012015]][tag[tm13012015]]
 
[tag[tm27012015]] $:/state/tab1 tc-vertical

I don't know if this is the most efficient way, but it works :-)

However, how can I achieve it that the vertical tabs on the left side stay 
in place, when I scroll the protocols? Is this possible?

Any comments on how I could implement such an overview tiddler in a more 
efficient way?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Kind regards,
Claus

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Re: [tw] How to view connections between tiddlers.

2015-06-03 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Shashi,

For TiddlyWiki5  5.1.6 can use TiddlyMap for this.

See: http://felixhayashi.github.io/TW5-TiddlyMap/index.html

For visualization of many tiddlers (500+) I recommend Chrome or FF38 and
a fast computer otherwise your browser may crash (maybe).

Introductory videos at this channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCizKRzennwyp6UTCWykcd6A

-Felix


On 03.06.2015 14:28, Shashi Obulasetty wrote:
 Well...

 I have a tiddlywiki. But I have thousands of tiddlers that are
 connected in a specific way.
  
 My problem is I want to access how each tiddlers is connected to others.

 When I say connection, I mean when a tiddler has a link to other tiddler.

 Please answer this.
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[tw] Re: Keep vertical tabs in position when scrolling

2015-06-03 Thread Greg Davis
Hi,

Not quite sure if it will work with the way you are displaying your 
content, I was going to suggest using the Scrolling Widget 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#ScrollableWidget

Got a quick example at: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sh/h8q01y5kygoyhch/AAB88H2CEZP_IAdzc1AJBYN8a/5-1-7_left-menu_custom.htm#TabbedGallery
  
see tabs Scroll Content 1 and 2

Hope that helped.
Greg

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5 Workflow] Presenting the SideEditor plugin!

2015-06-03 Thread Mat
Thank you all for your replies!


@Andreas - Unibar, very interesting! I've only briefly looked and will see 
if there are bits I can use. Thank you very much!

 

 As for the multiple editors and the stick/unstick thing: When I 
 experimented with it, it turned out, that having only 1 sticking editor 
 works best, 


This is valuable info
 

as it removes any management the user might have to do and also there 
 aren't 3 
 individually scrollable panes in a wiki. 

 
Real estate is a problem. I'm going to look closer at the Smallest 
Federated Wiki project, or whatever Cunninghams project is named. It has 
the tiddlers very narrow which actually looks workable. BTW, he also lets 
the river expand along the x-axis which I'm not so sure of... 

Your input just sparked a storyview idea that might work. Think of the 
story views that show only one tiddler (zoomin and pop, I belive. Or 
tabbed). But that these, if you go to edit view, shows both modes below 
eachothers. Then you, again, get a live editor. I think this makes sense. 
AND for working between tiddlers, i.e transferring text etc, you could 
stick either or both of the views and so when you open a new tiddler you 
see this AND the previous, all lined up vertically but maximum of four 
(TidA view, TidA edit, TidB view, TidB edit).  

...my favourite view in TWC was tabbed. The above idea would let the 
river aspect (i.e the y-axis) be used for comparison and editing rather 
than as a default view. When actually *reading *tiddlers, I have found that 
the vertical sequencing contributes little. It is not like turning a page 
in a book as tiddler subjects are typically distinct. 

Will do some thinking.

Thank you.

:-)

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[tw] [TWC] Copying refence guide

2015-06-03 Thread Alan Winterrowd
I play around on a couple different wikis, and other sites that use 
markups, as well as TWC.  I am always confused as to the various markups, 
so I go to the Reference Guide often.

Is there an easy way to copy the entire reference guide and paste it into 
local TW?  I was in the car working on some ideas, and couldn't get to thew 
eb to get to the reference guide and it was very frustrating. I would love 
to copy the entire Ref Guide to an empty TW and use it as my base for 
future TWs.

Thanks.

Alan W

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Copying refence guide

2015-06-03 Thread Greg Davis
Hi,
You can download the 'entire' TiddlyWiki site 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted for local reference or to drag 
tiddlers you want for reference to your own TW. Back on TW5.1.5 I tried to 
make my own TW with references ( 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/hjdhlbvya1yyppf/ec4FNmB1.htm ) but that 
quickly increases the size of the TW and adds content that obscures your 
own content. I compromised after Tobias Beer came up with his Markup 
Reference. Now I use it and some things I made for my own reference with a 
few tiddlers imported from the TWsite.

If you are just looking for a markup reference you might consider Tobias 
Beer's Markup Reference http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Markup%20Reference 
you could that tiddler into your TW. I'm attaching my copy of Tobias' 
reference, download and drag into your TW. Just tag it to appear were you 
want in your TW.
Greg

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[tw] How to view connections between tiddlers.

2015-06-03 Thread Shashi Obulasetty
Well...

I have a tiddlywiki. But I have thousands of tiddlers that are connected in 
a specific way.
 
My problem is I want to access how each tiddlers is connected to others.

When I say connection, I mean when a tiddler has a link to other tiddler.

Please answer this.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5 Workflow] Presenting the SideEditor plugin!

2015-06-03 Thread Andreas Hahn

Am 03.06.2015 um 16:04 schrieb Mat:
Think of the story views that show only one tiddler (zoomin and pop, I 
belive. Or tabbed). But that these, if you go to edit view, shows 
both modes below eachothers.


Keep in mind that for long tiddlers, this will involve quite some 
scrolling (so I don't know how live that would feel). I like the 
tiddler interaction idea though.



Also a little hint: Your sideEditor plugin has the plugin-type Workflow 
enhancement, this should however be one of the following values: 
{plugin, theme, language} depending on the concrete type. That way 
TiddlyWiki will properly unpack and display it in the plugin tab in the 
control panel. So in real life the plugin-type input box in tinka 
should really be a select-input with those options. (I wanted it to be 
expandable though, so it might become similiar to the tiddler type 
chooser in the normal edit template.)


/Andreas

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How can I add a Save Wiki button in $:/core/ui/TopBar/menu?

2015-06-03 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Matthew,

Find  $:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki and add the tag  $:/tags/TopRightBar

Cheers,

Ton

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 7:29:41 AM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:

 How can I add a Save Wiki button in $:/core/ui/TopBar/menu?

 I want to be able to click save when the sidebar is hidden.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] GUI Theme Tweaks Size Settings

2015-06-03 Thread Jed Carty
You are right about the clutter. It may not be too bad if it is used as a 
one time configuration that is then left alone, but if the configuration is 
going to be changed regularly it will be way too much clutter. I added a 
lot to the demo http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/ControlPanelAddon/. 

Because Eric said to not use his I threw together a simple range widget 
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/ControlPanelAddon/#%24%3A%2Fplugin%2Finmysocks%2Frangewidget%2Frange.js
 
that lets you set min, max and step. It is just thrown together so it isn't 
elegant but it works for the demo which highlights the problem you 
mentioned when using them. That is even if I set a value to 100px, then 
switch the unit to em instead of pix it results in a horrible mess. 

The list of css properties I have in the demo wiki lists the input types 
taken by each one as number, text or color. Setting a color picker for each 
color field isn't a bad idea but a generic numeric slider is way too easy 
to mess up the way it is now. I could add some more data tiddlers that list 
min and max values for properties that take numeric inputs, but that would 
lead to some other annoying problems so I am not going to bother with that 
for now.

Also I completely agree that the solution to how hard finding a particular 
item is would be to tag it with all related tags, this is what I was trying 
to allow with the modified menu version I made. I am not sure how well it 
works with a large number of entries yet, but it is start.

I don't know if Jeremy has seen it yet or not, I was going to try demoing 
it at the last hangout but I had to leave early.

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Copying refence guide

2015-06-03 Thread Greg Davis
OK, did a quick look back at Classic version 2.8.1. You can probably use 
Import from the Backstage, in the upper right corner. Can't say just which 
tiddlers you 
will have to import, depends on how you want your homemade reference to 
work and how much information you want.

1. Download and extract a new copy of TWC empty.htm from 
http://classic.tiddlywiki.com
2. Open the empty TWC and open the backstage.
3. Open the Import tab.
4. Enter the URL for the TWC to import from. Could be TWC home 
http://classic.tiddlywiki.com or a short version focused on the reference 
material 
http://tiddlywiki-com-ref.tiddlyspace.com/#
5. Click Open.
6. Select all the tiddlers you want to import.
7. Check Keep these tiddlers linked to this server so that you can 
synchronise subsequent changes to import the actual tiddlers.
8. List of imported tiddlers is displayed, click Done.
9. Imported tiddlers should now be available.

For an illustrated version see 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sh/h8q01y5kygoyhch/AAB88H2CEZP_IAdzc1AJBYN8a/5-1-7_left-menu_custom.htm#TWClassic%20Import%20Tiddlers

Hope that helps for your TWC references.
Greg

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How can I add a Save Wiki button in $:/core/ui/TopBar/menu?

2015-06-03 Thread Matthew Petty
Perfect, thank you Ton. Now I can hide the side bar, check off tasks and
use selectors to change fields, and then save without having to unhide the
sidebar.
Thanks,
Matthew

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Ton Gerner ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Matthew,

 Find  $:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki and add the tag  $:/tags/TopRightBar

 Cheers,

 Ton

 On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 7:29:41 AM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:

 How can I add a Save Wiki button in $:/core/ui/TopBar/menu?

 I want to be able to click save when the sidebar is hidden.

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[tw] Re: TW5 - An environment with LaTeX and Markdown?

2015-06-03 Thread Matabele
Hi

Perhaps it would be advantageous to switch to a multi-markdown 
plugin: http://fletcherpenney.net/multimarkdown/features/

Or it may be possible to create an EpicEditor plugin -- this would allow a 
choice of parsers (Marked comes 
standard): http://oscargodson.github.io/EpicEditor/

regards

On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 2:57:57 PM UTC+2, radu@gmail.com wrote:

 I started using tiddlywiki about one week ago, on the third attempt. The 
 thing that made it viable for me was the TexZilla 
 https://github.com/joerenes/TW5-TeXZilla plugin. It works great, 
 providing most notably the aligned environment which is missing in KaTeX.

 This makes TW5 almost perfect as a math notebook. What is missing is 
 Markdown. Besides making the notes look much better, having them written in 
 markdown syntax would make sharing one's work on (virtually all) online 
 forums seamless.
 Unfortunately, the Markdown plugin 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/markdown/doesn't work together 
 with the LaTeX plugin (one has to designate the content type as 
 text/x-markdown and as a consequence the LaTeX rendering is inactivated).

 Are there any solutions of having markdown and LaTeX rendering functional 
 at the same time?

 Thank you


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5 Workflow] Presenting the SideEditor plugin!

2015-06-03 Thread Mat


 Keep in mind that for long tiddlers, this will involve quite some 
 scrolling (so I don't know how live that would feel). I like the 
 tiddler interaction idea though. 


Good point. Will do more thinking.
 

Also a little hint: Your sideEditor plugin has the plugin-type Workflow 
 [...]

 
Thanks for informing me! Actually, I wrote a draft on some feedback on 
Tinka that I intend to post to you and that included this very point about 
a dropdown menu to select from. But there are also some further ideas on 
that particular matter and some other stuff. Will post it later tonight 
probably. 


:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How can I add a Save Wiki button in $:/core/ui/TopBar/menu?

2015-06-03 Thread Jed Carty
It may be better to make a new tiddler with whatever name you want and tag 
that tiddler with $:/tags/TopRightBar and then put 
{{$:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki}} in the text field. That will help prevent 
any problems during future upgrades. Using $:/tags/TopLeftBar will put it 
in the top left instead of the top right.

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