[tw] Re: Automatic Links to non CamelWord tiddlers

[Matabele]

Hi

Not exactly what you wanted, but might suit your needs: 
http://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-AutoTag/

regards

On Monday, 27 April 2015 06:17:30 UTC+2, Anton Aylward wrote:
>
> I understand 'automatic links' that are CamelWords.
> no problem with that.
>
> But I wonder about links to tiddlers that are not camewords.
> I understand explicit links :-
>
>  [[Evolution]]  [[Ecology]]
>
> to appropriate tiddlers.
>
> What I'm wandering is if there is a way to automatically generate links 
> without the [[]].
>
> Suppose I already have a tiddler with the title "Evolution" and in another 
> tiddler enter the word "Evolution", can a link be generated simply because 
> there is a tiddler to match?  
>
> What about the converse?  I have a tiddler (or many!) with that text and 
> created a tiddler with the title.  That would require some sort of 
> rescanning
> But going though every tiddler to re-edit to add brackets would be a 
> thankless task and one would never know if it was complete.
>
> It is the latter case that interests me particularly for wrrting ever 
> evolving documentation, keeping log books of activities, "debugging" and 
> more.
>
> Has this been done?
>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Using tiddlymap connected with city/travel map(s)

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Tueb,

depends on what you mean by connect, there is an example of an epic
"street map" at http://tiddlymap.org. Just scroll down the examples and
look for "Think epic. Map your quests!" . But you cannot connect
tiddlymap to e.g. google maps.

-Felix

On 11/09/2015 02:37 PM, The Bo wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I just wanted to start a new tiddly project with tiddlymap and was
> wondering if it is possible to connect tiddlymap with a city or travel
> map.
>
> I think tiddlymap would suit perfect for this projekt. I could add a
> node for every point of interest and fill the regarding tiddler with
> information.
>
> For my purposes it should have following features:
>
> - offline usage with short loading times
> - map zoom in/out
>
> Any ideas how to embed a map (e.g. openstreetmap)?
>
> Greets
> Tueb
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[tw] [TW5] Using tiddlymap connected with city/travel map(s)

[The Bo]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to start a new tiddly project with tiddlymap and was 
wondering if it is possible to connect tiddlymap with a city or travel map.

I think tiddlymap would suit perfect for this projekt. I could add a node 
for every point of interest and fill the regarding tiddler with information.

For my purposes it should have following features:

- offline usage with short loading times
- map zoom in/out

Any ideas how to embed a map (e.g. openstreetmap)?

Greets
Tueb

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[tw] Re: InfoboxTablesPlugin is finally out

[whatever]

Hey!
InfoboxTablesPlugin is for TWC, yes.

w

On Monday, August 27, 2012 at 8:05:03 PM UTC+2, whatever wrote:
>
> Hi! 
>
> As I've mentioned in various posts, I've been working on 
> InfoboxTablesPlugin (1). I needed the functionality of the side 
> tables, like on WikiPedia, but with more colors. I've been developing 
> this plugin for a while now and I even completely rewrote it in 
> between. However, I finally feel comfortable with saying it's done. 
> There is one little issue with IE not hiding empty lines, but other 
> than that, it works. I've tested it in IE, Firefox, Waterfox, Safari, 
> Chrome and Opera on Windows. 
> While it doesn't really have any dependencies, I do strongly recommend 
> Eric's NestedSlidersPlugin (2), because it enables the InfoboxInfo 
> function and the hiding of infobox tables. 
>
> What it's for: 
> Well, same as on WikiPedia, you can enter some quick facts on the 
> subject of your article. For example, if you're writing about a 
> person, you can enter their biographical and other information for 
> quick reference. 
>
> What it offers: 
> *Define custom templates (including colors) 
> *Shorthand parameters (short keywords that are used instead of the 
> whole parameter name) 
> *Adding comments to parameters in the template 
> *Normal view with the parameter name on one side and the value on the 
> other 
> *Side-by-side view, where both sides contain values 
> *InfoboxInfo (a dropdown menu displaying infobox parameters; for 
> reference when adding parameters to the macro) 
> *Hides empty lines (when parameter is unknown), empty sections (when 
> all parameters in a section are unknown) and the entire table (when 
> all parameters are unknown) 
> *Supports multiple infoboxes in a tiddler (of the same or different 
> type) 
> *Custom titles 
> *Error checking (wrong/missing/duplicated IDs) 
> *Show/hide the table on opening a tiddler 
>
> I've added several examples and templates. The documentation is in a 
> separate tiddler and I hope it's clear enough. If you have any 
> questions, suggestions or tips, or if you notice a bug, let me know. 
>
> (1) http://infoboxes.tiddlyspot.com 
> (2) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin 
>
> w 
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[tw] select work from list in dropdown/SelectWidget and create new tiddler with same title

[aaron . sotton]

Hi all,

I'm only a few days into using TiddlyWiki, so please pardon my ignorance. 

This is what I am trying to do


   1. make a drop down list populated dynamically based on tags - I have 
   been successful in doing this. 
   2. create a button that when clicked, created a new draft widget with 
   the a title that has the words chosen in 1 as part of its title (but not 
   exactly it, it has some words added to what was selected).


This is the macro I have so far:


\define newHereButtonTags()
[[$(currentTiddler)$]]
\end

\define testWhy()
<$view tiddler=<>>
\end

\define newHereButton()
<$button>
<$action-sendmessage
  $message="tm-new-tiddler"
title=<>
  tags=<> />
<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/chevron-up}}


\end 

<$select tiddler=<> default=''>
<$list filter='[sort[title]tag[JustSOmeTags]]'>
>><$view field='title'/>



<>
<>


I created the dropdown list, it is correctly populated with the tags 
[justsomeTags]


What happens is that when I press the button <>, it does 
indeed create a new draft widget, and it tags it automatically with the 
title of the $(currentTiddler)$.


However, for the life of me I can't figure out why the title of the draft 
is not getting fetched properly. What I am getting is something like: 
<$view tiddler=<>> as the title.


The ultimate goal is to have the title of the new tiddler to be: " title of 
the parent tiddler (the one that has the button)" + appended text based one 
what was selected using the selectWidget drop down list.



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[tw] Font Color

[K]

Hello,

I've been trying to find a way to change the display font color globally 
ever since making the wiki dark and transparent, but I have had no success 
so far. Can someone please help me?

Thanks

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[tw] Re: Font Color

[K]

Nevermind. Found it by accident when I changed foreground.

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[tw] TW5 new tiddler (tm-new-tiddler) create in view mode?

[Dave]

Hi, I searched for this and found a similar thread, but it was about TWC, 
so here goes:

I have this macro that makes a new tiddler based on a template tiddler when 
you click on an icon:


\define newRaceTags()
[[$(currentTiddler)$]]
\end

\define newRace()
<$button class=<>>
<$action-sendmessage
  $message="tm-new-tiddler"
$param="race template"
title="$(currentTiddler)$ -"
  tags=<> />
<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
{{swimmerIcon}}

<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
<$text text="new race"/>


\end


How do I make it create it and open it in view mode instead of edit mode?

I tried searching for "tm-new-tiddler" at tiddlywiki.com, but didn't find 
anything that helped.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Seek empty value field

[Erwan]

Hi Lee,

I think you can do it this way, even though it's probably not very 
efficient:


<$list filter="[!is[system]!has[f]]">
  <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]regexp[^f$]]" variable="ignore" >
<$link><$text text={{!!title}}/>
  



Erwan


On 09/11/15 09:08, Changhoon Lee wrote:

I am trying to search field which does not have any value (empty space).

I can see these fields in user fields so It does exist somewhere.

I tried '[has[field]]' as a filter.

I don't know what filter I can use to find these tiddlers.

Lee
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is it possible to highlight current tiddler in TOC?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Siniy-Kit,
 

> is it possible to make menu with highlight items?
>

With the current ways of how the toc works, I don't think it is, as the 
recursion steps work entirely independently and there is no "after-render" 
dom manipulation that would find a "current tiddler" and then make sure 
that its parent items get highlighted (and are expanded).

On the other hand, I don't think the current implementation allows to defer 
the toc rendering until after the "currently active branch" has been 
properly identified, as it's iterations render items independently, as 
already said.

So, this begs for a new / different approach to implementing a table of 
content, one that does away with nested-macro+template-magic.

Best wishes,

— tb

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Re: [tw] George wants subwikis to be up-to-date in order to plan his activities transversally.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Tobias

OK, it sounds like your concerns are with the UI for making plugins, and 
perhaps with the name “plugins”. I was worried that you were seeing issues with 
the plugin architecture, since we can improve the UI but it’s tricky to change 
the architecture at this point.

For what it’s worth, I quite like the word “plugins”, closely followed by 
“bundle”. “Plugin” at least describes what one does with one of these things: 
they are designed to be plugged into wikis. The trouble with “bundle” is that 
we need a word that communicates the differences between a plugin (with it’s 
upgrade logic) and a bundle (without that logic). So right now I’d use “bundle” 
to describe a JSON file containing a bunch of tiddlers.

The community is doing a good job exploring UIs for making plugins, and I’m 
confident that we will evolve better approaches.

> Right now I don't even know the full requirements for that, tbh. (without 
> researching it)

Perhaps you could have a look at the current implementation? I think that your 
feedback and suggestions would be more valuable if you had that extra insight.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Is it possible to highlight current tiddler in TOC?

[sini-Kit]

where I can see Eric's TOC? Is it TW5?

понедельник, 9 ноября 2015 г., 19:16:25 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
написал:
>
> Hi Siniy-Kit
>
> is it possible to make menu with highlight items?
>>
>
> Eric has created an enhanced TOC that auto-expands the tree to show (and 
> highlight) the currently selected tiddler; I’m not sure if it’s ready for 
> prime time but it’s pretty slick.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> With the current ways of how the toc works, I don't think it is, as the 
> recursion steps work entirely independently and there is no "after-render" 
> dom manipulation that would find a "current tiddler" and then make sure 
> that its parent items get highlighted (and are expanded).
>
> On the other hand, I don't think the current implementation allows to 
> defer the toc rendering until after the "currently active branch" has been 
> properly identified, as it's iterations render items independently, as 
> already said.
>
> So, this begs for a new / different approach to implementing a table of 
> content, one that does away with nested-macro+template-magic.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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[tw] Re: Automatic Links to non CamelWord tiddlers

[Papa Piper]

Thanks. Auto tagging will be my next project, after I get Linkify working.

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[tw] Re: Saving my TiddlyWiki File

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Christoph,
 

> Changing back to the old IE-Version is not an option (Company policy).
>

What wiggle room does your company provide?
If you are forced to work with ie, then that's unfortunate.
Although, I wouldn't know what (new) restrictions exist for ie 11.
Otherwise, use a (portable version of) Firefox.

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] George wants subwikis to be up-to-date in order to plan his activities transversally.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Eric

> Have you tried adding "--allow-file-access-from-files" to the command used to 
> launch Chrome?

I know about the flag, and it’s certainly useful sometimes. But I couldn’t 
build the TW plugin library in a way that required every user to set that flag.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[tw] Getting TopRight to stay visible?

[stevesuny]

Hello folks,

I've made the leap -- and am now using TiddlyWiki5 as my home page (
http://sunypoly.edu/~steve). I'm using a github repository, and doing a 
redirect from the University web server page to the github index.html page.

I'd like to work on the getting the TopRight menu to stay visible at all 
times, and also to color it in a distinctive way (without messing up the 
rest of the palette). I think I've resolved other issues: It should open 
with the side menu bar closed; when opened, the side menu bar should 
display contents. 

This is exciting for me, as it is the first time I've made a public-facing 
TiddlyWiki. Feel free to poke around and offer a full critique and 
assessment of my wiki.  (And perhaps check out the projects based on 
TiddlyWiki. I'll be sharing a broader announcement here soon that may 
provide additional explanation :).

//steve.
 


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[tw] TiddlyWiki Hangout #89 will be on Saturday 14th November 2015 at midday GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Refreshed and renewed, TiddlyWiki Hangout #89 will be on Saturday 14th
November 2015 at midday GMT -
https://plus.google.com/events/cqj93hfjojhr9180epgsq453skk

I've created a TiddlySpot with the agenda, and as a place to post any links:

http://hangout-89.tiddlyspot.com/

Please reply here with any questions or topics for the hangout,

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Seek empty value field

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Lee,
 

> I am trying to search field which does not have any value (empty space).
>

Please report this on GitHub .

I believe this to be a design flaw in TiddlyWiki,
where undefined and empty string are interpreted as identical,
which, obviously, they're not ...for any practical purposes.

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Is it possible to highlight current tiddler in TOC?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Siniy-Kit

> is it possible to make menu with highlight items?

Eric has created an enhanced TOC that auto-expands the tree to show (and 
highlight) the currently selected tiddler; I’m not sure if it’s ready for prime 
time but it’s pretty slick.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> 
> With the current ways of how the toc works, I don't think it is, as the 
> recursion steps work entirely independently and there is no "after-render" 
> dom manipulation that would find a "current tiddler" and then make sure that 
> its parent items get highlighted (and are expanded).
> 
> On the other hand, I don't think the current implementation allows to defer 
> the toc rendering until after the "currently active branch" has been properly 
> identified, as it's iterations render items independently, as already said.
> 
> So, this begs for a new / different approach to implementing a table of 
> content, one that does away with nested-macro+template-magic.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
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[tw] Re: InfoboxTablesPlugin is finally out

[atiggerx33]

I have no idea how to even install this

On Monday, August 27, 2012 at 2:05:03 PM UTC-4, whatever wrote:
>
> Hi! 
>
> As I've mentioned in various posts, I've been working on 
> InfoboxTablesPlugin (1). I needed the functionality of the side 
> tables, like on WikiPedia, but with more colors. I've been developing 
> this plugin for a while now and I even completely rewrote it in 
> between. However, I finally feel comfortable with saying it's done. 
> There is one little issue with IE not hiding empty lines, but other 
> than that, it works. I've tested it in IE, Firefox, Waterfox, Safari, 
> Chrome and Opera on Windows. 
> While it doesn't really have any dependencies, I do strongly recommend 
> Eric's NestedSlidersPlugin (2), because it enables the InfoboxInfo 
> function and the hiding of infobox tables. 
>
> What it's for: 
> Well, same as on WikiPedia, you can enter some quick facts on the 
> subject of your article. For example, if you're writing about a 
> person, you can enter their biographical and other information for 
> quick reference. 
>
> What it offers: 
> *Define custom templates (including colors) 
> *Shorthand parameters (short keywords that are used instead of the 
> whole parameter name) 
> *Adding comments to parameters in the template 
> *Normal view with the parameter name on one side and the value on the 
> other 
> *Side-by-side view, where both sides contain values 
> *InfoboxInfo (a dropdown menu displaying infobox parameters; for 
> reference when adding parameters to the macro) 
> *Hides empty lines (when parameter is unknown), empty sections (when 
> all parameters in a section are unknown) and the entire table (when 
> all parameters are unknown) 
> *Supports multiple infoboxes in a tiddler (of the same or different 
> type) 
> *Custom titles 
> *Error checking (wrong/missing/duplicated IDs) 
> *Show/hide the table on opening a tiddler 
>
> I've added several examples and templates. The documentation is in a 
> separate tiddler and I hope it's clear enough. If you have any 
> questions, suggestions or tips, or if you notice a bug, let me know. 
>
> (1) http://infoboxes.tiddlyspot.com 
> (2) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin 
>
> w 
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[tw] Re: InfoboxTablesPlugin is finally out

[Eric Shulman]

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-8, atigg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have no idea how to even install this
>
 
Note the date on the previous post: 

> On Monday, August 27, 2012 at 2:05:03 PM UTC-4, whatever wrote...
>

Based on that date, and the references to TiddlyTools' NestedSlidersPlugin, 
I can safely say that the InfoBoxPlugin is for TiddlyWiki Classic.  If you 
are interested in having a similar enhanced feature in modern TiddlyWiki 
(v5.0+), then a new plugin would need to be implemented, using TW5 
architecture and syntax.

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[tw] Buttons & Opacity

[K]

Hello,

So. I like the concept of tiddlywiki, but for some reason, using it seems 
to give me headaches. I figured that it was the ratio of colors; the 
tiddlers were to bright or the colors were too contrasted. I then did some 
fiddling.

I've managed to make everything look good except for the buttons in the 
tools sidebar. Looking at some of the code,  I have a problem trying to 
modify the background color. I know it has something to do with 
"tv-config-toolbar-class". Can anyone help? 

Edit: To clarify, I want to make the buttons transparent.

Thanks.




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[tw] Re: Getting TopRight to stay visible?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi steve,

This is exciting for me, as it is the first time I've made a public-facing 
> TiddlyWiki. Feel free to poke around and offer a full critique and 
> assessment of my wiki.  (And perhaps check out the projects based on 
> TiddlyWiki. I'll be sharing a broader announcement here soon that may 
> provide additional explanation :).


Congratulations, I also enjoy those moments of creating a "website" based 
on TiddlyWiki. So long as you don't depend on google all that much and 
rather just want a kind of "business card" / "cv-like resume" / "project 
overview" of sorts for people to point to, that's fine.

A few things I would work on:

   1. your site title and subtitle are not visible by default
  - you may possibly want the title to be up top as in TW2
  - compare to: Birthe's http://bc.classic.tiddlyspot.com/
   2. I see you're using the basic "taggly" approach from tb5 
   
  - looking at some of the tiddlers that show the links I find 
  duplication
  - they also have a "*navbar*" tag which is possibly just confusing to 
  visitors => "what's navbar?!?"
   3. if you decide to hide the sidebar, I'd definitely not have 
   instructions on using your site the first thing a visitor reads
  - e.g. how to toggle the sidebar
  - I'd rather improve the content flow so that a user does not need a 
  sidebar, except for you upon editing 
  - e.g. have the toc be part of the landing page, as you have already 
 done
  - I don't think a public facing tiddlywiki should make visitors learn 
  how to use one, unless that's its purpose
   
I'd like to work on the getting the TopRight menu to stay visible at all 
> times, and also to color it in a distinctive way (without messing up the 
> rest of the palette). I think I've resolved other issues: It should open 
> with the side menu bar closed; when opened, the side menu bar should 
> display contents. 
>

Not sure what you mean, I can see a menu at the top right with your two 
buttons "visible at all times". If not that, what else are you after?
What's your intention for coloring? Personally, I like things plain and 
simple, with the least amount of noise, unless noise was the intention.

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] George wants subwikis to be up-to-date in order to plan his activities transversally.

[Tobias Beer]

Hiu Jeremy,
 

> OK, it sounds like your concerns are with the UI for making plugins, and 
> perhaps with the name “plugins”. I was worried that you were seeing issues 
> with the plugin architecture, since we can improve the UI but it’s tricky 
> to change the architecture at this point.
>

Admittedly, and as anyone can possibly notice, I have yet to publish an 
actual plugin. So far, I have shied away from leveraging the mechanism for 
the purpose of distribution, mostly due to an unaccomplished development / 
node / guthub-workflow to that end on my part.

Interestingly, except Erwan who does rely on that for indexing plugins, I 
don't think I've read any demands so far that asked for this or that this 
or that macro be wrapped up and shipped as a plugin. In the long term, I 
can see that the mechanism does perhaps provide better means to provide for 
any (semi-automated) upgrade procedure via some future tb5 plugin library 
against which to check for updates.

~

Back to simple "bundles" and the context of "let's (allow to) create the 
simplest *plugin* possible": One should be able to not specify a version, 
maybe even plugin-type, and all that jazz and still have a "bundle of 
tiddlers" created / imported.

Following your instructions here 
, 
I can see that the following won't do to create the simplest of "bundles":

title: bundle
type: application/json

{"tiddlers": {}}

with

title: foo
tags bar

baz

and then in the console:

$tw.utils.repackPlugin("bundle",["foo"]);

There are a number of issues with this:

   1. if I have to declare a *plugin-type*, I'd rather want to use a 
   plugin-type that indicates we're packaging a simple *bundle*, not a 
   plugin
  - in fact, any unrecognized *plugin-type* should possibly be 
  interpreted as that
   2. I do not want to fiddle with any versioning at the very beginning
  - as it proves problematic for importing (the same version)
  - so I need to repack my plugin
- but then the constituent tiddlers are gone
   - so I need to find a way to start from a wiki with 
   "unpacked" plugin components
  - too many things to consider
   3. *repackPlugin* should either
  - a) never delete constituent tiddlers
  - which means that you won't be able or even intend to use the 
 "bundle" in the wiki you created it (in the browser)
- since we still have the constituent tiddlers as real 
tiddlers, which is fine anyways
- in that sense, a user could be provided a button that creates 
a bundle on the fly whenever they want to grab it
   - from whichever constituents they desire
- b) repack tiddlers that are already part of the bundle as 
  shadows if they don't exist as real tiddlers
  - as, obviously, those initially bundled tiddlers are now gone
 - but then, how to remove one already packed?
- mhhh, maybe via some option to *repackPlugin*
 
For what it’s worth, I quite like the word “plugins”, closely followed by 
> “bundle”. “Plugin” at least describes what one does with one of these 
> things: they are designed to be plugged into wikis. The trouble with 
> “bundle” is that we need a word that communicates the differences between a 
> plugin (with it’s upgrade logic) and a bundle (without that logic). So 
> right now I’d use “bundle” to describe a JSON file containing a bunch of 
> tiddlers.
>

Exactly, a bundle would be a json file containing a bunch of tiddlers *unpacked 
as shadows*. 

There would possibly be a basic upgrade logic for "bundles" as well, 
namely: skip any version checks entirely. This could be achieved by setting 
an option flag for *repackPlugin* to not set any version, as we're not 
interested (yet) in doing so. Alternatively, a good alternative could be a 
*-0MM-0DD-0hh-0mm-0ss* version rather than the versioning scheme the 
name of which escapes me atm. But then, again, a set version comes with the 
troubles of not being able to import the same or lower version. And with a 
bundle I possibly don't want any of that. I just want to use that bundle as 
I just grabbed it.

The community is doing a good job exploring UIs for making plugins, and I’m 
> confident that we will evolve better approaches.
>

Surely, I'm very interested in this and I'm sure that trying to (allow 
users to) start from the most basic "bundle" users may indeed eventually 
find themselves wanting to leverage more features / aspects of 
full-blown-plugins, e.g. versioning. But I'd be all fine to have this a 
gradual process, rather than one requiring literacy of all the intricacies 
of versioning, plugin-types, dependences, etc...

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Seek empty value field

[Tobias Beer]

 Hi Erwan,
 

> I think you can do it this way, even though it's probably not very 
> efficient: 
>

> <$list filter="[!is[system]!has[f]]">
>   <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]regexp[^f$]]" variable="ignore" >
> <$link><$text text={{!!title}}/>
>   
> 
>

Cool stuff although confusing and yes, possibly inefficient.

I always expect *has[foo]* to contain tiddlers even if the value of *foo* 
is empty.
I guess that's just me.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: TW5 new tiddler (tm-new-tiddler) create in view mode?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Dave,

Not entirely sure, but I believe the option to have *tm-new-tiddler* 
actually create and save the tiddler instead of just opening the editor 
does not exist yet.

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Vecmap plugin - easy tiddler maps

[Sylvain Naudin]

Hello,

I can wait :) So you can start with collapse/expand :)


Regards,
Sylvain


Le dimanche 8 novembre 2015 08:44:06 UTC+1, Matabele a écrit :
>
> Hi
>
> My vote: collapse/expand.
>
> regards
>
> On Sunday, 8 November 2015 08:32:05 UTC+2, ih...@newsfromgod.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sylvain, 
>>
>> I am working on the missing arrows for large trees with back tags   
>> (like the one pointed on by Matabele), then I need to decide whether   
>> collapse/expand or vertical layout will be the next task. What do you   
>> guys think is more important collapse/expand or vertical layout? This   
>> is just to plan my time. 
>>
>> IHM 
>>
>>
>> Quoting Sylvain Naudin : 
>>
>> > Hello ! 
>> > Nice plugin :) 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> if needed a vertical layout will be added later 
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > If think I'll prefer vertical one, with large screen :) It will more 
>> > usefull for me to show information like this. 
>> > 
>> > Thank you ! 
>> > Sylvain 
>> > 
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Re: [tw] George wants subwikis to be up-to-date in order to plan his activities transversally.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Christopher

Good stuff.

You may have seen it already, but there is a core function you can call in the 
browser to create a plugin:

http://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#How%20to%20create%20plugins%20in%20the%20browser

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/utils/pluginmaker.js

The reason that the core doesn’t have an “export as plugin” option is because 
there’s currently no mechanism for the user to specify the other parameters 
needed to create the plugin: the title of the plugin tiddler, and the version 
number. What are you currently using as the fields of the plugin tiddler? The 
upgrade mechanism relies on the version number being bumped on each revision.

In terms of dynamically updating installed plugins, there is of course already 
a mechanism to do that via the plugin library. The internals are a bit 
counter-intuitive because of the same origin limitations that browser’s impose; 
it’s not an option to just xmlhttprequest() to retrieve the new text of a 
plugin.

The plugin library is represented as an HTML file that TW loads in an iframe, 
and then communicates with using window.postMessage(). The HTML file is allowed 
to use xmlhttprequest() to retrieve plugins from the same domain from which it 
was loaded.

The easiest way to explore might be to first look at the plugin library HTML 
file:

http://tiddlywiki.com/library/v5.1.9/index.html

You can see the raw files here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/jermolene.github.io/blob/master/library/v5.1.9/index.html

The plugin library is built from this special edition:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/editions/pluginlibrary

Most of the logic is in this plugin:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/pluginlibrary

The TW code that interacts with the plugin library is here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/startup/browser-messaging.js

> PlugOut would be a repository, even on a local filesystem, that would act as 
> a library for Plugins.

The obstacle here is that Chrome doesn’t let files loaded on a file:// URI 
perform any xmlhttprequest() to other file:// URIs.

My warning would be that the entire approach to implementing the plugin library 
was shaped by the browser security restrictions. I’d recommend careful testing 
before you rely on a browser capability actually working in the right scenarios.

Good luck,

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> I could export the current wiki as a plugin and load it into the PlugOut 
> library. Thus all the other wikis could update themselves from the PlugOut 
> library.
> 
> Pretty nifty, huh?
> 
> Christopher
> 
> P.S. If I wanted to have my plugin created dynamically in the current wiki, I 
> would have to have one tiddler change the contents of another tiddler because 
> plugin tiddlers are not calculated. C:
> 
> 
> On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 10:12:02 AM UTC+1, Christopher Mann wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> Would you please be able to give me feedback on this approach?
> 
> https://github.com/chris2fr/tiddlywiki-as-plugin 
> 
> 
> It is about using the plugin mechanism to try to satisfy George Geek and 
> perhaps Tobias Beer. It works as an export filter. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Christopher
> 
> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 11:18:33 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
> Hi Jeremy, 
>> Currently, we are limited in leveraging this by a sophisticated 
>> plugin-mechanism that defies a simple "reuse tidbits" approach and forces a 
>> "publish a versioned bundle of codebits and supporting tids for 
>> distribution".
> 
> I’d like to understand the issues you see with the current plugin mechanism. 
> Are you envisaging a specific alternative? 
> 
> Thanks for asking. Not sure about the specifics, the tenets of improvements 
> might be:
> easy bundling of tiddlers
> come to think of it, including plugins
> for reuse in a bundled manner
> meaning: as shadows (compare: inclusion on TiddlySpace)
> The plugin mechanism does cater for (some of?) that scenario, only the means 
> to use it for this purpose are possibly limited to selected individuals who 
> know the how to's. To me, the goal would be indeed to simplify this 
> "packaging" process and thus allow reusing tiddler packages in different 
> context, as if plugins (or then actual plugins), and possibly even containing 
> not only content but also structure, even functionality... in short: whatever 
> ...could be my master template packaging all kinds of things, reused 
> throughout my wikis. Could be a "my docs package". Could be a "my todo setup" 
> containing the basic scaffolding for my to do list workflow... however, on a 
> much more "simply create and use a basic package" level rather than a "figure 
> out how to package and manage plugins" level, with versioning, naming 
> conventions or whatever may be recommended for tried and true plugins, rather 
> than "simple bundles".
> 
> There are currently two ways to 

[tw] [TW5] Seek empty value field

[Changhoon Lee]

I am trying to search field which does not have any value (empty space).

I can see these fields in user fields so It does exist somewhere.

I tried '[has[field]]' as a filter.

I don't know what filter I can use to find these tiddlers.

Lee

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Re: [tw] George wants subwikis to be up-to-date in order to plan his activities transversally.

[Christopher Mann]

Hi,

Many thanks for the pointers and the precise information about the plugin 
library generation and ideas around export as plugin.

> What are you currently using as the fields of the plugin tiddler?

The data tiddler $:/plugins/chris2fr/asplugin/config is « unshadowed » with 
local configuration. 

> The upgrade mechanism relies on the version number being bumped on each 
> revision.

I versioning the wiki-plugins 0.0.<>.

> The plugin library is represented as an HTML file that TW loads in an iframe, 
> and then communicates with using window.postMessage().

I am being really lazy here perhaps, but how do I construct 
recipes/library/tiddlers.json and "recipes/library/tiddlers/" + 
encodeURIComponent(title) + ".json »?

> 
>> PlugOut would be a repository, even on a local filesystem, that would act as 
>> a library for Plugins. 
> 
> The obstacle here is that Chrome doesn’t let files loaded on a file:// URI 
> perform any xmlhttprequest() to other file:// URIs.

Good to know. The file:// use is somewhat iffy anyway. 

> My warning would be that the entire approach to implementing the plugin 
> library was shaped by the browser security restrictions. I’d recommend 
> careful testing before you rely on a browser capability actually working in 
> the right scenarios.

Improvement ideas:

* Get the last part of ‘title’ from the URL (hence not needing any 
configuration)
* Have a front-end for the configuration instead of that data tiddler (and 
perhaps put the data tiddler directly in the Control Panel while we wait)
* Have a « push-to-library » function (will need a server)
* Use the internal plugin-maker, if I can

> Good luck,

Thank you,

Christopher

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[tw] Saving my TiddlyWiki File

[Christoph]

Hello!

I am sure this question has been asked before but I don't seem to find the 
right answer so solve the Problem.

I am using TiddlyWiki (I guess TiddlyWiki-Classic) for some years now. With 
the installation of the IE11 saving doesn't work anymore.
I recieve a Statement "Failed to save main TiddlyWiki file. Your changes 
have not been saved".
The TiddlyWiki HTML-Document is the 0KB of size and a blank page.

Changing back to the old IE-Version is not an option (Company policy).

Does anyone have a solution for this Problem?

Thanks,
Christoph.

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[tw] [TW5] Is it possible to highlight current tiddler in TOC?

[Siniy-Kit]

Hi! I try to use TOC  (Table of Contents) as left menu on my zoomin site 
and want to highlight selected menu item if selected is current or if the 
current tiddler contain tag with the name of current menu item.
toc-tabbed-internal-nav looks very nice (as tabs macro), but it don't show 
the whole tiddler (only text area) and don't use history, so I can't use it.

first my problem was, how TOC will understand what tiddler is on top. 
<> don't work in it and it is not first in $:/StoryList  
the second problem how to change style toc-selective-expandable of one item.
and the third how to compare list from TOC with "current" tiddler title. 

is it possible to make menu with highlight items?

my site http://uvakin.neocities.org/heeg.html

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Re: [tw] George wants subwikis to be up-to-date in order to plan his activities transversally.

[Eric Shulman]

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 1:06:34 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The obstacle here is that Chrome doesn’t let files loaded on a file:// URI 
> perform any xmlhttprequest() to other file:// URIs.
>

Have you tried adding "--allow-file-access-from-files" to the command used 
to launch Chrome?

-e

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