date:20161127



Sorry for this hint, it was meant well
>

Not an issue at all.

As for presentation - only yesterday I read in TiddlyWikiDev forum that 
someone is trying to adapt reveal.js to TW5. If that happens, that will be 
a massive upgrade for TW as a presentation creater.

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[tw] Re: [Theme] Moments: A little color won't hurt


@ Sylvain. Thanks. Always a pleasure to hear from you.

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Re: [tw] [Theme] Moments: A little color won't hurt



Minor update: Toolbar checkboxes are given darker box shadows to enhance 
its visibility.


@BJ: Thank you!! I am glad that you are enjoying it. In my personal TWs I 
use a lot of your work. 
As for the over-ridden ones - that won't be a problem. There are 
stylesheets where CSS values change as the user starts using the theme. 
Hence the overriding. It won't affect the theme, the over-ridden ones just 
reflect your usage and choices.


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Re: [tw] Google code-in contest for 13-17 year-old

2016-11-27 Thread Handoko Suwono

Hi,

I am mentoring again with the Google code-in starting tomorrow until 
January 16th, 2017.

Google code-in is a contest designed for pre-university students, high 
school and secondary school students aged 13-17 yo to participate in 
open-source programming and applications. I need more TW idea to be put in 
GCI contest especially on those related to mobile applications.

https://opensource.googleblog.com/2016/11/announcing-google-code-in-2016-orgs.html

handoko -

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Re: [tw] [Theme] Moments: A little color won't hurt

2016-11-27 Thread Jan

Hi Riz,
You are right, the searchresults were a phantom produced by my
Smartphonesimulator. Sorry for this hint, it was meant well...

TalkyTalky was the first theme I adapted for slides but it is not
reponsive at all.
I would like to have something very reduced with a good mechanism
between screen-size font-size.

Yours Jan

Am 27.11.2016 um 00:17 schrieb Riz:

Hi Jan

Thank you!!

Searchresults are a little in the way in mobile view.

Can I trouble you for a screenshot? I had configured in such that
under the breakpoint(960px), it would switch over to the classic
sidebar (as shown in ghostwriter theme.). If it doesn't work, I might
have to check my CSS.

This might be a good opportunity to ask this. As somebody suggested in
the hangouts -do you think it will be good idea to get rid of drop
dwons completely in the mobile view?The initial plan was to set it so
that search will be triggered only when the search button is clicked
and the results will be shown in a new tiddler. I was hesistant
because it might confuse those who are expecting the familiar workflow.

Selectionfields in the tools are invisible.

Yeah -sorry, my fault. I intented to set shadows for them, but forgot
to. I am setting out on a small journey right now, will get to it as
soon as I get back at night.

Clear theme for presentations

Assuming that you are already familiar with the
http://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky/ I have always wanted to try twine,
given that it gives output in TW format. May be it will work for you

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[tw] Re: [Theme] Moments: A little color won't hurt

2016-11-27 Thread Sylvain Naudin

Another great piece of work ! It look great :)

Congrats Riz !


Sylvain

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Re: [tw] TW5 on nodejs

2016-11-27 Thread BJ

HI Stefan,
I run a number of tws under node on ubuntu. If 8080 is busy you can use a 
different number with the command option

--server 

eg

--server 8081

all the best

BJ
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 5:40:13 PM UTC+1, stefan infp wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Yes, the closing of Terminal doesn’t terminate the process even If I press 
> ctrl-C. Only restarting of the OS helps.
>
> Thanks
>
> duminică, 27 noiembrie 2016, 18:26:39 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a scris:
>>
>> Hi stefan
>>
>> Error: listen EADDRINUSE 127.0.0.1:8080
>>
>>
>> That error means that the TiddlyWiki process is still running on port 
>> 8080. I’m not familiar with Ubuntu, but perhaps closing the terminal window 
>> doesn’t terminate the process?
>>
>> Usually when running TiddlyWiki as a server under Node.js you should quit 
>> explicitly with ctrl-C.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>> at Object.exports._errnoException (util.js:1026:11)
>> at exports._exceptionWithHostPort (util.js:1049:20)
>> at Server._listen2 (net.js:1257:14)
>> at listen (net.js:1293:10)
>> at net.js:1403:9
>> at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:77:11)
>> at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:98:9)
>> at Module.runMain (module.js:606:11)
>> at run (bootstrap_node.js:394:7)
>> at startup (bootstrap_node.js:149:9)
>>
>> I need help to start TW5, pls.
>> Thanks.
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[tw] Re: [Theme] Moments: A little color won't hurt

2016-11-27 Thread BJ

Looks very good!

there is a problem with you example wiki - when I look at the contents of 
your plugin (by clicking on it from the wiki's list of plugins), I see that 
a number of the plugins' tiddlers are overridden by non-shadow tiddlers - 
it would be good to be certain that your wiki is representative of your 
plugin in usage.

all the best

BJ

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 6:05:54 PM UTC+1, Riz wrote:
>
> Moments is a beautiful free and responsive theme available for wordpress. 
> This is an adaptation of the same for TW5 platform. All the design credits 
> goes to the site and the original designer.
>
> Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/IgzJo
>
> To see demo and download the plugin, go to: 
> http://tesseractmoments.surge.sh/
>
> If you cannot see the left sidebar as shown in the screenshots, try 
> zooming out a bit. 
>
>
> Do let me know your inputs and feedbacks
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[tw] Re: TW5 show list of values in a field

2016-11-27 Thread Jon

Riz, that is almost perfect!!

I just need the keywords to show in a list rather than on a single line.

How do I incorporate a line break or something similar?

Many thanks
Jon

On Sunday, 27 November 2016 17:40:26 UTC, Riz wrote:
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>
>
>> Sorry Mark, but that's not what I want.
>>
>> I need the values of the keyword field outside the widget, in the body of 
>> the tiddler (which contains the select widget)
>>
>>
>> <$select tiddler="$:/temp/familykeyword">
>
><$list filter="[tag[family]]">
>   <>
>
> 
>
> Now wherever you want the keyword to appear, say the body of the tiddler 
> containing the select widget, just add {{$:/temp/familykeyword}}
>
> Sincerely
> Riz
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #101 will be on Saturday 26th November 2016 at 2pm GMT

Thank you Josiah for the kind words.

I would consider it an honor to have any of my work used by any TW5 user. I
shall iron out and update and improve as much as I can afford with time.

However here are my two cents.
1) I intended these as a proof of concept how adaptable tiddlywiki is, how
immensely flexible it is. You want it to look like onenote? evernote?
powerpoint? deal.
Nevertheless the poit remains - these are in someway - stolen. I adapted
them sources that were free, true -but not intended for TW by its original
author. If we need to be distinguished, we need to do it with themes made
by this community for Tiddlywiki. I think Hiru is working on some of those
already. I for one am definitely looing forward to that.

2) All our aesthetic senses are attuned to a different frequency. What is
beautiful to me won't be beautiful to someone else. With that in mind,
urging to user to download a few extra kilobytes, which he cannot remove
even if he wishes to, is unfair to the end user. If it was upto me, I
would go on to suggest removal of even snowhite from the core and leave
just vanilla. Leave it to the user to define how his TW looks. We can have
a section hosted somewhere listing all major themes available for TW5, as
it was for the TWC. A community submitted themes section would be a
wonderful addition.

That being said Josiah's point of a adapting the TW to a more universal
outlook is very relevant. An average user will choose to set aside a few
deamnds if the alternative app has a better looking UI. The very least, a
mobile and tablet adaptaion effort before the proposed completion could be
considered. If such an effort is off the foot, I would be eager to
contribute whatever I can with my limited knowledge.

Last, the point I was planning to make in the hangout before I was
unfornately cut-off by my trustworthy ISP, is that can we have a rule that
says if a user finds an answer to the question he asked in the group and
receives an answer fot that, he should edit his question and add the most
suitable answer to it? This will greatly reduce the effort to wade to the
dozen to and fros before finding the relevant point.

Sincerely
An end user

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[tw] Re: TW5 show list of values in a field



>
> Sorry Mark, but that's not what I want.
>
> I need the values of the keyword field outside the widget, in the body of 
> the tiddler (which contains the select widget)
>
>
> <$select tiddler="$:/temp/familykeyword">

   <$list filter="[tag[family]]">
  <>
   


Now wherever you want the keyword to appear, say the body of the tiddler 
containing the select widget, just add {{$:/temp/familykeyword}}

Sincerely
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Re: [tw] external images and external file under nodejs

Hi Stefan

> That is sad, i hoped I can finally build my database in TW5. Thanks for the 
> answer.

You should still be able to use external images with TW5 under Node.js. You can 
either keep your PDFs in a separate folder and refer to them via a file:// URI 
in your _canonical_uri field, or keep the PDFs under a separate web server (eg 
https://www.npmjs.com/package/http-server 
).

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> duminică, 27 noiembrie 2016, 19:02:14 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a scris:
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> 
>> I would like to create and display external images and external file (pdf - 
>> inside iframe) in Ubuntu. I chosen the right type and created the 
>> _canonical_uri field with the filename and path (images/696.jpeg) of the 
>> image but it is not displayed. I wonder why? The image is located inside the 
>> wiki folder (nodejs) in the images folder. The same with the pdf (i chose 
>> HTML markup as type and the _canonical_uri field with the value: file path 
>> and pdf file name). Thanks.
> 
> TiddlyWiki doesn’t currently serve tiddlers as static file attachments. See 
> this issue for the background:
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> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1000 
> 
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Re: [tw] external images and external file under nodejs

That is sad, i hoped I can finally build my database in TW5. Thanks for the 
answer.

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> Hi Stefan
>
> I would like to create and display external images and external file (pdf 
> - inside iframe) in Ubuntu. I chosen the right type and created the 
> _canonical_uri field with the filename and path (images/696.jpeg) of the 
> image but it is not displayed. I wonder why? The image is located inside 
> the wiki folder (nodejs) in the images folder. The same with the pdf (i 
> chose HTML markup as type and the _canonical_uri field with the value: file 
> path and pdf file name). Thanks.
>
>
> TiddlyWiki doesn’t currently serve tiddlers as static file attachments. 
> See this issue for the background:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1000
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #100 will be on Monday 2nd May 2016 at midday BST/UTC+1

Hi Mario

Thanks, I’ve updated the description,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 26 Nov 2016, at 22:57, PMario  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> 
> annotation: http://hangouts.tiddlyspace.com/#HangOut_100
> video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx7PM2w9E1Y 
> 
> agenda: http://hangout-100.tiddlyspot.com/
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> have fun!
> mario

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Re: [tw] external images and external file under nodejs

Hi Stefan

> I would like to create and display external images and external file (pdf - 
> inside iframe) in Ubuntu. I chosen the right type and created the 
> _canonical_uri field with the filename and path (images/696.jpeg) of the 
> image but it is not displayed. I wonder why? The image is located inside the 
> wiki folder (nodejs) in the images folder. The same with the pdf (i chose 
> HTML markup as type and the _canonical_uri field with the value: file path 
> and pdf file name). Thanks.

TiddlyWiki doesn’t currently serve tiddlers as static file attachments. See 
this issue for the background:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1000 


Best wishes

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #101 will be on Saturday 26th November 2016 at 2pm GMT

Hi Josiah, Mat

> Excellent for bulk work. Could it allow direct editing of all field content? 

Yes, it could; in the hangout we looked at Jed’s variant which has 
click-to-edit for all fields.

> Odd as it may sound, as I look at the Tagger (i.e. a list of Tiddlers that 
> expand to full content on click) THAT itself could BE the content page for a 
> TW. I can think of TWs where something like that IS the visibleTW.

Yes, it’s not far away from a story river showing all tiddlers, with all but 
one being folded.

> Design wise maybe the tagger & edit options on the right could go at the 
> bottom so the tiddler content is full width?

I think it’s advantageous to not have to scroll down in order to reach the 
editing controls.

> 1 - The importance & brilliance of CSS. Riz's work really shows that CSS is a 
> major developmental path for TW. I was very impressed with both his elegant 
> design sense and how, in some ways, his inventiveness with CSS actually 
> enhances user function significantly. I hope when any wrinkles are ironed out 
> Riz would be willing to give one or two of his themes for inclusion in the 
> standard release  I'm thinking particularly of:

I think there’s another important point: Riz is showing how easy it is to adapt 
existing CSS themes to work with TiddlyWiki. There’s a wealth of great designs 
out there, and it’s good to be reminded that TiddlyWiki can make use of any 
design you see on the web.

> (a) -- A "universal" theme that is proven to work well on all screen sizes, 
> including smart phones, in all browsers …

I’d caution for careful language here. The existing default theme works the 
same in all browsers. The only issue we have is small screen sizes. A 
replacement theme would be nice to have, but fixing things to work at all 
screen sizes doesn’t (necessarily) need a new theme, it just needs to fix the 
handful of problems that we still have at small screen sizes.

> (b) --  Possibly change the default theme in TW release to one of his very 
> elegant, modern designs?

Yes, but there’s a pretty high bar for replacing the default theme in terms of 
backwards compatibility.

> 2 -- SAVING problems consequent on browser developments, especially FF.

Back in 2004, we had workable saving mechanisms for all the major desktop 
browsers. Then, Chrome launched with much higher levels of protection, and no 
ability to perform seamless saving from a file: URI in the browser. All that’s 
happened since then is that the other browsers have caught up with Chrome. 
Firefox has lagged behind, sticking with an architecture that gives extensions 
an unadvisedly high level of privilege. Now it’s finally catching up.

There’s no avoiding the fact that the ability to work in the browser as a 
standalone HTML file is going away.

> This is something I've commented on before. I DO think its problematic for 
> newbies coming to TW to then have to figure out how to save the thing. It can 
> get messy. Your comments about having a possible Amazon mediated cloud saving 
> system were interesting,

There’s nothing new here. It’s always been the case that the difficulties with 
saving only occur when running as a standalone HTML file. Once you run 
TiddlyWiki on a server, all those user experience problems disappear, and 
TiddlyWiki becomes as easy to use as any web application.

> as was the re-conceptualisation of Tiddly Desktop. I think MY point is very 
> much in the area of "universal" user experience ... where the less a newbie 
> has to do handling variations the better.

I’m still missing your point, I think!

To me, it’s a really simple trade-off. The ability to work offline with 
TiddlyWiki requires expertise and understanding because of the complexities of 
the environment. I think you’re hoping that things will somehow magically get 
easier, but I’m afraid they won’t.

> Also from a development point of view: the less you have to cater for 
> variations the better.  

> At the back of my mind is whether there could be a consistent "universal" way 
> to handle this--such that, whichever browser you are in, TW saving always 
> works the same??

This is the part I may not be getting. We’ve got a very well-explored problem 
that can be stated as “There is no way to give users of standalone TiddlyWiki a 
universal, seamless experience when saving changes”. You’re stating how good it 
would be if that assertion were not true, but there’s no evidence to support 
that hope.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Best wishes
> Josiah
> 
> On Thursday, 24 November 2016 09:59:12 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #101 on Saturday 
> 26th November 2016 at 2pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or 
> you can view the proceedings live or at a later date from the archive.
> 
> http://hangout-101.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
> Please let me know if there's anything you'd particularly like to see 
> discussed.

[tw] external images and external file under nodejs

I would like to create and display external images and external file (pdf - 
inside iframe) in Ubuntu. I chosen the right type and created the 
_canonical_uri field with the filename and path (images/696.jpeg) of the 
image but it is not displayed. I wonder why? The image is located inside 
the wiki folder (nodejs) in the images folder. The same with the pdf (i 
chose HTML markup as type and the _canonical_uri field with the value: file 
path and pdf file name). Thanks.

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Re: [tw] TW5 on nodejs

Hi,

Yes, the closing of Terminal doesn’t terminate the process even If I press 
ctrl-C. Only restarting of the OS helps.

Thanks

duminică, 27 noiembrie 2016, 18:26:39 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a scris:
>
> Hi stefan
>
> Error: listen EADDRINUSE 127.0.0.1:8080
>
>
> That error means that the TiddlyWiki process is still running on port 
> 8080. I’m not familiar with Ubuntu, but perhaps closing the terminal window 
> doesn’t terminate the process?
>
> Usually when running TiddlyWiki as a server under Node.js you should quit 
> explicitly with ctrl-C.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> at Object.exports._errnoException (util.js:1026:11)
> at exports._exceptionWithHostPort (util.js:1049:20)
> at Server._listen2 (net.js:1257:14)
> at listen (net.js:1293:10)
> at net.js:1403:9
> at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:77:11)
> at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:98:9)
> at Module.runMain (module.js:606:11)
> at run (bootstrap_node.js:394:7)
> at startup (bootstrap_node.js:149:9)
>
> I need help to start TW5, pls.
> Thanks.
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Re: [tw] TW5 on nodejs

Hi stefan

> Error: listen EADDRINUSE 127.0.0.1:8080

That error means that the TiddlyWiki process is still running on port 8080. I’m 
not familiar with Ubuntu, but perhaps closing the terminal window doesn’t 
terminate the process?

Usually when running TiddlyWiki as a server under Node.js you should quit 
explicitly with ctrl-C.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> at Object.exports._errnoException (util.js:1026:11)
> at exports._exceptionWithHostPort (util.js:1049:20)
> at Server._listen2 (net.js:1257:14)
> at listen (net.js:1293:10)
> at net.js:1403:9
> at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:77:11)
> at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:98:9)
> at Module.runMain (module.js:606:11)
> at run (bootstrap_node.js:394:7)
> at startup (bootstrap_node.js:149:9)
> 
> I need help to start TW5, pls.
> Thanks.
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[tw] TW5 on nodejs