[tw] TWederation Setup Testing

2016-12-30 Thread Dmitry Sokolov 
Hello All,

I had difficulties in setting up TWederation on TidlySpot previously and 
decided to make it a systematic run. The results are here, in red:
http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/114094198/TiddlySpot%20Setup

I will keep digging into the alternative solutions but would appreciate 
fixing the issues with the template on ooktech.com. I believe, that will 
lower the barrier for participation of newcomers like me.

My final goal is to write a workable protocol easy to follow, at the same 
page above.
Your help would be indispensable and greatly appreciated.
Please let me know if I can be of any help too.

Jed Carty , Jeremy Ruston 
, 
others?

Cheers,
Dmitry

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Improving tiddler renaming behaviour

2016-12-30 Thread Josiah 
UUIDs are sometimes useful. I think its depends a lot on what you are 
doing. Once I realised that TW doesn't serialize Tiddlers with unique UUIDs 
I started messing around with manipulating creation times to give surrogate 
UUIDs. It kinda works. 

For me the lack of auto-serialisation turns up negatively the fact you 
can't create two tiddlers with the same title. That is irritating :-). A 
tiddler title, IMO, should not HAVE to be unique.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Friday, 30 December 2016 10:20:52 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I also don’t think that UUIDs are a magical solution.
>
> For example, unless we want users to write [[my 
> link|eaec2913b78d11a81a68775068fb3107e9029b746e7cbc6d1a1926190c9f6f05]], 
> then we’ll want [[my link|my title]] to perform a title search to find the 
> target tiddler.
>
> The moment we support such a syntax then we’re back precisely where we 
> started, where there will be a strong need for tools which relink titles.
>
> Having said that, as I’ve noted before, there’s little preventing somebody 
> from experimenting with a UUID-oriented variant of the default TiddlyWiki 
> user interface. One option is to use the title field to contain a UUID but 
> a more interesting approach is to use a separate UUID field, and take 
> advantage of one of the properties of most UUID generation algorithms: the 
> guarantee that each generated UUID will be unique.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 30 Dec 2016, at 08:21, Jed Carty  
> wrote:
>
> While using UUIDs may simplify some things it would make others more 
> complex. How do you overwrite a shadow tiddler if they all use UUIDs? If 
> you are able to edit UUIDs to make a new tiddler with the same one then 
> they aren't unique anymore, if you do something like take the tiddler with 
> the same title and the newest modified field than you are back to having 
> titles being the same as UUIDs. 
>
> I think that while on the surface changing to UUIDs could take care of 
> some things, it isn't actually solving the problems, just moving them.
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Collecting links for tiddlywiki.com

2016-12-30 Thread Jan 

Hi Mark, Hi Jeremy,
I'd like to submit my slidesnstories repository.

Best wishes Jan



   slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com

Slides and Stories is a repository of the tools to optimize TW for 
scientific research and for presenting and publishing results.



 SlidesnStories 

...is a tool to save and reload sets of Tiddlers. This is already 
working, The aim is to develop a mechanism to transform these into 
instant slideshows.



 MetaTabs 

is a tool which gives you the possibility to attach and show specific 
information in tabs at the bottom of each Tiddler: ideas, notes, tasks, 
stories and presentations, comments, annotations and footnotes.
It is inspired byMagicTabs 
and Tiddlyscholar by 
Alberto Molina Pérez, which are very elaborated tools that alas do not 
seem to be in active development any more. I wanted to change the 
behaviour in some ways. For example I wanted show tabs only if they have 
content.



 ...furthermore there is

 * an export-plugin,
 * a footnote-plugin,
 * and a plugin to rearrange Tiddlers in theStoryRiver






Am 24.12.2016 um 15:46 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
The links to community resources on tiddlywiki.com 
 are very out of date:


http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Community

It would be great to try to gather more useful, up-to-date links 
before the release of 5.1.14.


So, if there’s something that you’ve made, or something that somebody 
else has made that you rely on every day, please nominate the link here.


Bonus points if you’re able to submit the link as a .tid file 
following the same format as the existing link tiddlers:


http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyMap%20Plugin%20by%20Felix%20K%C3%BCppers 



Best wishes

Jeremy
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created: 20161230224119209
creator: JR
modified: 20161230234057638
modifier: JR
story: [[About MetaTabs]] [[How to adapt Metatabs to your personal needs]] 
$:/MetaTabs/Template $:/MetaTabs/Language $:/MetaTabs/Button 
$:/MetaTabs/newIdea $:/MetaTabs/newNote $:/MetaTabs/Sliderlabel 
$:/core/images/notes $:/core/images/idea $:/core/images/open 
$:/core/images/concept
tags: MetaTabs
title: slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com

Slides and Stories is a repository of the tools to optimize TW for scientific 
research and for presenting and publishing results.

!SlidesnStories 
...is a tool to save and reload sets of Tiddlers. This is already working, The 
aim is to develop a mechanism to transform these into instant slideshows.

!MetaTabs 
is a tool which gives you the possibility to attach and show specific 
information in tabs at the bottom of each Tiddler: ideas, notes, tasks, stories 
and presentations, comments, annotations and footnotes. 
It is inspired by MagicTabs and Tiddlyscholar by Alberto Molina Pérez, which 
are very elaborated tools that alas do not seem to be in active development any 
more.
I wanted to change the behaviour in some ways. For example I wanted show tabs 
only if they have content. 

!...furthermore there is 
* an export-plugin,
* a footnote-plugin,
* and a plugin to rearrange Tiddlers in the ~StoryRiver

[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a single, concise upgrade HowTo anywhere?

2016-12-30 Thread PMario 
Hi Loyd,

I did create a comparison TW in 2014 for myself. It contains information 
that I did consider valuable. So I'm pretty sure it is incomplete.
http://compare-tw2-tw5.tiddlyspace.com/#CompareTwc-Tw5

Updating TWc to TW5 also depends on the number of plugins, that extend / 
change the TW syntax.

For me it was relatively simple to convert my stuff, since I was using a 
plugin called "lineBreakHack", that produced the same "paragraph" handling 
as TW5 does today. ...

Since tiddlyspace.com may be closed down anytime soon, you can find the 
stuff at the online-archive. 
http://web.archive.org/web/20161205103254/http://compare-tw2-tw5.tiddlyspace.com/

I personally use a "find and replace" workflow for content that needs 
conversion. For existing "read only" stuff I still use TWc. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: tooltip within a link

2016-12-30 Thread Eric Shulman 
On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 12:39:56 PM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> \define see(show,go)
> <$link to="""$go$""" tooltip={{$go$!!tooltip}}">$show$
> \end
>
>
CORRECTION: remove extra trailing quote at the end of the widget (left over 
from editing original example):
\define see(show,go)
<$link to="""$go$""" tooltip={{$go$!!tooltip}}>$show$
\end

-e

 

> enjoy,
> -e
>
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>
>
>
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[tw] Re: tooltip within a link

2016-12-30 Thread Eric Shulman 
On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 11:35:20 AM UTC-8, stevesuny wrote:
>
> I've got this macro:
> \define see(show,go)
> <$link to=$go$ tooltip="hello">$show$
> \end
> I'd like to set the tooltip to a field of the $go$ tiddler (text, caption, 
> tooltip, etc.) when the link is created with the <> macro.
>

You are passing in "go" as a macro param.  As you clearly already know, 
this allows you to use $go$ to perform a *lexical substitution* so that the 
value of the "go" param in is inserted into the surrounding syntax.  The 
macro then "returns" the content, including the substitutions, for further 
processing by the TiddlyWiki parser.

To retrieve the value of the tooltip from a tiddler field (instead of the 
literal "hello" placeholder in your example), the syntax is:
   tooltip={{tiddlername!!fieldname}}
and, given that you have $go$ defined, you can write:
   tooltip={{$go$!!tooltip}}
where 'tooltip' is the desired field name.

Note: there's a small error in your macro code.  In the $link widget, you 
wrote:
   to=$go$

However, if $go$ is a tiddler title that contains spaces, this will break, 
as any text following the space will be treated as another widget parameter 
rather than being a part of the value assigned to the "to" parameter.  To 
make sure spaces in titles are properly contained, you should enclose the 
parameter value in quotes:
   to="$go$"

In addition, if the value of $go$ includes one or more double-quote 
characters, you would need to use the tripled-quotes, like this:
   to="""$go$"""
which ensures that any quote character(s) within the title will not be seen 
as a delimiter for the value, but will be treated as regular text content 
instead.

Putting it all together:
\define see(show,go)
<$link to="""$go$""" tooltip={{$go$!!tooltip}}">$show$
\end

enjoy,
-e

Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals



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[tw] Re: tooltip within a link

2016-12-30 Thread PMario 
Hi Steve, 

I did use a field named "tip" here.

\define see(show,go)
<$link to=$go$ tooltip={{$go$!!tip}}>$show$
\end

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Import Tiddles automatically in Tiddlywiki

2016-12-30 Thread Stéphane Delaye 
Hi, I will try Noteself and make a feedback. It looks very interesting.

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[tw] Re: Slice

2016-12-30 Thread Mat 
On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 8:48:24 PM UTC+1, Christian Uhlig wrote:
>
> Found something in TW5, a button on top of a tiddler.
>
> On the other hand i found some info here 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/editions/text-slicer/ 
>

Ah, you're right, the text-slicer. Yes, that is probably the only existing 
"real thing" about slicing in TW5.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Slice

2016-12-30 Thread Christian Uhlig 
Found something in TW5, a button on top of a tiddler.

On the other hand i found some info here 
http://tiddlywiki.com/editions/text-slicer/ 

Am Freitag, 30. Dezember 2016 19:01:05 UTC+1 schrieb Christian Uhlig:
>
> Hello, can i get a short instruction what "slice" is and how to use?
>
> Regards
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[tw] tooltip within a link

2016-12-30 Thread stevesuny 
Hi,

I've got this macro:
\define see(show,go)
<$link to=$go$ tooltip="hello">$show$
\end
I'd like to set the tooltip to a field of the $go$ tiddler (text, caption, 
tooltip, etc.) when the link is created with the <> macro.

Thoughts?

Thanks...

//steve.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a single, concise upgrade HowTo anywhere?

2016-12-30 Thread Loyd Gravitt 


On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:20:01 PM UTC-6, Loyd Gravitt wrote:
>
> Ah yes, someone saying, yes there is a link at ... or no, there is no 
> such document is so incredibly time consuming.
>
> I have answered many such questions freely on many such boards before, 
> it's called COMMUNITY.
>
> And it is considered good practice to produce a test a migration path 
> before one purposely renders a software product no longer backwards 
> compatible.
>
> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 12:24:25 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>>
>>  And before someone says to search and read all of the messages already 
>>> here, I do not have time.  My boss is paying me to 
>>>
>>  
>> Haha, clearly you have a sense of humour which is very good when asking 
>> others to work for you for free so you can get paid!
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> I am not asking anyone to write such a guide, only if anyone has seen 
one.  Sorry for any misunderstanding. 

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[tw] Re: How will I url encode the viewtemplate of a tiddler?

2016-12-30 Thread Thomas Elmiger 
Ciao Josiah, 

Good to see that we think along the same lines concerning (not) stuffing 
content in fields versus reusing parts of tiddlers by extraction ;–)

Thanks a lot for promoting our solutions on all cannels, I think communication 
is another field in which TiddlyWiki made a leap forward in 2016 and a lot of 
this is because of your efforts!

I am looking forward to getting inspired and contribute again next year. 

All the best!
Thomas 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a single, concise upgrade HowTo anywhere?

2016-12-30 Thread Loyd Gravitt 
Ah yes, someone saying, yes there is a link at ... or no, there is no 
such document is so incredibly time consuming.

I have answered many such questions freely on many such boards before, it's 
called COMMUNITY.

And it is considered good practice to produce a test a migration path 
before one purposely renders a software product no longer backwards 
compatible.

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 12:24:25 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>
>  And before someone says to search and read all of the messages already 
>> here, I do not have time.  My boss is paying me to 
>>
>  
> Haha, clearly you have a sense of humour which is very good when asking 
> others to work for you for free so you can get paid!
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: How will I url encode the viewtemplate of a tiddler?

2016-12-30 Thread Thomas Elmiger 
Hi Riz, great to see your success! 

BUT: I am getting way too much credit there, please ad your name (or remove 
mine)!

This is how I see our cooperation: 
http://twitter.com/telmiger/status/814909829017980928

All the best! 
Thomas 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

2016-12-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
It doesn't seem to change the font weight of the smaller text. I'm just 
trying to understand what the point is of a theme that makes the 
easy-to-read stuff even bigger/heavier and easier-to-read, but ignores the 
small stuff. All I can say is, wait until you need reading 
glasses/bifocals. ;-)

Changing the font-size from the menu, or any of the other settings for that 
matter, is awkward because the fonts change WHILE you are typing, meaning 
you can easily lose your place. I've got a configuration tiddler that I 
want to post that will let you dial-in fonts and and width settings and 
then save the configuration.

Merry Holiday Seasons Greetings,
Mark

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 7:40:51 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> The new "Heavier" theme seems to only make the stuff that is already big 
> (titles, headlines, bold text) bigger. The ordinary text stays the same 
> size. For my poor eyes, it's the small stuff that needs to get bigger. 
> Perhaps it works differently on other browsers?
>
>
> The “Heavier” theme doesn’t actually change the size of any of the text, 
> it just changes the font weight. That’s intentional, but perhaps what you 
> really want is a “Bigger” theme that bumps up the font sizes of everything. 
> The reason that I didn’t bother to create such a theme is that I assumed 
> that people would use the browser font size controls. Do they not do the 
> job for you?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Mark (Windows 7, Firefox 47)
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 6:01:16 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> There’s been a rash of updates to v5.1.14 in the last 10 days, making it 
>> a good time to have a look at the prerelease at 
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>
>> I’d like to highlight the new QR code generator plugin (installed in the 
>> prerelease so that you can try it out easily). I had little idea about QR 
>> codes before the recent correspondence here on the mailing list, but am now 
>> a convert. If you don’t have a QR code reader on your smartphone I’d highly 
>> recommend installing one to play with the prerelease.
>>
>> Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t 
>> too long/complicated to fit. There are conventions for passing URLs, 
>> contact information, wifi details etc., but there is complete freedom; one 
>> can make a QR code of JSON if you want (actually a bad idea as the special 
>> characters appear to compress badly).
>>
>> The QR code plugin adds a generic macro for generating a QR code from a 
>> string, and also adds a couple of pre-built ways to use it:
>>
>> * A new view toolbar button that displays the current tiddler as a QR 
>> code. You can choose from the URL of the tiddler, the raw text, or the 
>> rendered text
>> * Example forms for generating QR codes for contacts, wifi and generic 
>> codes
>>
>> Once I’d found the library, getting the plugin up and running was 
>> surprisingly easy — I had the first operational version within 30 minutes 
>> of starting work. A good illustration of the excellent returns on the 
>> effort involved in integrating existing JavaScript components.
>>
>> There’s a full list of changes in the release note, but I’d highlight the 
>> following bigger changes:
>>
>> * Extended search mechanism to require the search string to be a minimum 
>> length
>> * New Hebrew translation, and preliminary support for RTL languages
>> * Improved access to plugin information:
>> ** New “Plugins” tab in the “More” sidebar tab, listing all installed 
>> plugins
>> ** Better display of plugin tiddlers themselves, duplicating the gadget 
>> used in control panel
>> * Fixed height of preview pane to use a scrollbar when fixed height 
>> layout is selected
>> * Improved modals and notifications so that global macros are available
>> * Extended the SetWidget to allow a single result to be selected from a 
>> filtered result list
>> * Added new $:/info/url/* information tiddlers providing document 
>> location information
>> * Added several new filter operators for string encoding/decoding strings 
>> according to HTML encoding, URI encoding, regexp escaping and JavaScript 
>> string encoding
>> * Improved support for bulk loading tiddler files via tiddlywiki.files 
>> Files within TiddlyWikiFolders
>>
>> I’d like to get v5.1.14 released in the next couple of weeks, so any 
>> feedback/thoughts/questions are much appreciated at this point.
>>
>> As ever, thanks to everyone listed in the release note for their 
>> contributions to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a single, concise upgrade HowTo anywhere?

2016-12-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 

My "strategy" was to simply import everything and then fix what I needed as 
I needed it or encountered it, or in those "lull" times when the brain 
isn't fully occupied. I figured as time went on I'd become more comfortable 
with the new syntax and widget structure and know how to do this-for-that 
conversions more readily. The problem is, especially with so much dependent 
on plugins, that it's more like translating from Esperanto to Klingon. It 
kind of has to be done on a case-by-case basis. 

Good luck!
Mark

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 9:47:21 AM UTC-8, Loyd Gravitt wrote:
>
> I have been using TWC since 2011, over the years making it my single main 
> documentation repository for all of my IT notes and documentation.  As TWC 
> had had more and more browser specific issues with javascript problems, 
> save difficulties and everything else, I decided maybe it is time to look 
> at upgrading to TW5.  I have done a couple of hours of reading and found 
> the upgrade assistant.  I tried that and of course it now wants me to 
> upgrade each tiddler as I open it to convert the classic tiddly markup to 
> the new.  The problem is, It totally scrambles the formatting of every 
> tiddler.  As an IT person, I have made extensive use of the {{{ ... }}} 
> markup for blocks of code.  These are all pretty much illegible after the 
> "upgrade".  So now it appears that I have the choice on whether or not I 
> want to manually reformat between 600 and 700 tiddlers, stick with the 
> growing pains of TWC, or just punt and use another tool.
>
> Is there a simple, single document or sticky thread that contains 
> instructions for moving from the classic platform to the 5 version?  And 
> before someone says to search and read all of the messages already here, I 
> do not have time.  My boss is paying me to administer databases and 
> servers, not dig into the intricacies of jason, css, and node,js.  I am 
> already regretting the time I invested in learning classic tiddly markup 
> and plugin architecture as that is now worthless.
>
> I have done some searching of the Google Group and seen some threads about 
> further development of upgrade tools similar to what I am looking for.  Can 
> anyone give a status or timeframe on these?
>
> I apologize for the tone of frustration in this post, but time is limited 
> and I am not wanting to do much tweaking or development within the 
> platform.  I am just a user, by no means technically illiterate, who just 
> wants to take almost six years of accumulated tiddlers and seamlessly 
> upgrade them to the new format.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help anyone can hopefully give me and Happy 
> New Year.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

2016-12-30 Thread Josiah 
Ciao Mark & Jeremy

FWIW I agree with Jeremy. Browser zoom, as far as I understand it, is a 
universal facility in all bowsers now?

Best wishes
Josiah 

On Friday, 30 December 2016 16:40:51 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> The new "Heavier" theme seems to only make the stuff that is already big 
> (titles, headlines, bold text) bigger. The ordinary text stays the same 
> size. For my poor eyes, it's the small stuff that needs to get bigger. 
> Perhaps it works differently on other browsers?
>
>
> The “Heavier” theme doesn’t actually change the size of any of the text, 
> it just changes the font weight. That’s intentional, but perhaps what you 
> really want is a “Bigger” theme that bumps up the font sizes of everything. 
> The reason that I didn’t bother to create such a theme is that I assumed 
> that people would use the browser font size controls. Do they not do the 
> job for you?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Mark (Windows 7, Firefox 47)
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 6:01:16 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> There’s been a rash of updates to v5.1.14 in the last 10 days, making it 
>> a good time to have a look at the prerelease at 
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>
>> I’d like to highlight the new QR code generator plugin (installed in the 
>> prerelease so that you can try it out easily). I had little idea about QR 
>> codes before the recent correspondence here on the mailing list, but am now 
>> a convert. If you don’t have a QR code reader on your smartphone I’d highly 
>> recommend installing one to play with the prerelease.
>>
>> Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t 
>> too long/complicated to fit. There are conventions for passing URLs, 
>> contact information, wifi details etc., but there is complete freedom; one 
>> can make a QR code of JSON if you want (actually a bad idea as the special 
>> characters appear to compress badly).
>>
>> The QR code plugin adds a generic macro for generating a QR code from a 
>> string, and also adds a couple of pre-built ways to use it:
>>
>> * A new view toolbar button that displays the current tiddler as a QR 
>> code. You can choose from the URL of the tiddler, the raw text, or the 
>> rendered text
>> * Example forms for generating QR codes for contacts, wifi and generic 
>> codes
>>
>> Once I’d found the library, getting the plugin up and running was 
>> surprisingly easy — I had the first operational version within 30 minutes 
>> of starting work. A good illustration of the excellent returns on the 
>> effort involved in integrating existing JavaScript components.
>>
>> There’s a full list of changes in the release note, but I’d highlight the 
>> following bigger changes:
>>
>> * Extended search mechanism to require the search string to be a minimum 
>> length
>> * New Hebrew translation, and preliminary support for RTL languages
>> * Improved access to plugin information:
>> ** New “Plugins” tab in the “More” sidebar tab, listing all installed 
>> plugins
>> ** Better display of plugin tiddlers themselves, duplicating the gadget 
>> used in control panel
>> * Fixed height of preview pane to use a scrollbar when fixed height 
>> layout is selected
>> * Improved modals and notifications so that global macros are available
>> * Extended the SetWidget to allow a single result to be selected from a 
>> filtered result list
>> * Added new $:/info/url/* information tiddlers providing document 
>> location information
>> * Added several new filter operators for string encoding/decoding strings 
>> according to HTML encoding, URI encoding, regexp escaping and JavaScript 
>> string encoding
>> * Improved support for bulk loading tiddler files via tiddlywiki.files 
>> Files within TiddlyWikiFolders
>>
>> I’d like to get v5.1.14 released in the next couple of weeks, so any 
>> feedback/thoughts/questions are much appreciated at this point.
>>
>> As ever, thanks to everyone listed in the release note for their 
>> contributions to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

2016-12-30 Thread Josiah 
Ciao Jeremy

> The problem there is that the new editor uses an iframe for the text. 
Meanwhile, the main page is listening for mouse clicks to trigger the 
removal of the popup. However, the main page doesn’t get mouse click events 
for clicks within the iframe.

It seems like too much work to do that. How difficult would it be to add a 
top right corner "x" closer instead? Could that be a a viable alternative? 
In reality I don't think its a major issue. It would probably confound a 
few newbies at first until they clicked around.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Slice

2016-12-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
There was "slice" in the classic TW. In TW5 you're supposed to make each 
tiddler be the slice. There's a discussion about slices and there 
workarounds here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/slice%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/QUXd3kG1pTQ/RnYdTqLmAwAJ

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 10:01:05 AM UTC-8, Christian Uhlig wrote:
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> Hello, can i get a short instruction what "slice" is and how to use?
>
> Regards
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a single, concise upgrade HowTo anywhere?

2016-12-30 Thread Mat 

>
>  And before someone says to search and read all of the messages already 
> here, I do not have time.  My boss is paying me to 
>
 
Haha, clearly you have a sense of humour which is very good when asking 
others to work for you for free so you can get paid!

<:-)



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[tw] Re: Slice

2016-12-30 Thread Mat 
Where did you hear about it, please link. It is, to my knowledge, not a 
used term in TW5.

<:-)

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[tw] Slice

2016-12-30 Thread Christian Uhlig 
Hello, can i get a short instruction what "slice" is and how to use?

Regards

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Re: [tw] TiddlyMap edge node styling by namespace

2016-12-30 Thread Greg Hodgins 
You guessed correctly on "edges".  I thought I recalled edges being 
referred to as edge nodes, but will drop that. :-)

I'll manage with some more manual effort.  I should learn how to script a 
little as I imagine it shouldn't be too difficult to find all the edges 
with a namespace and update their colour attribute.  Worst case I imagine I 
could perform some kind of search and replace on the underlying tiddlers. 
 As I write this I am left thinking I need to check and see if edges are 
represented by tiddlers.

I'll experiment further - no problem.  I just didn't want to continue 
spinning if it were something obviously I was missing.  I must have been 
thinking of node types.

Thanks as always.

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-5, Felix Küppers wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Can I apply a style to TiddlyMap edge nodes based on namespace?
>
>
> can you clarify what you mean by "edge nodes"?
> Do you mean edges or nodes?
>
> I assume you are talking about "edges". In this case you cannot mix edge 
> styles based on a shared criteria (e.g. a common namespace) as it would be 
> possible with node styles. Edges can only be styled via their assigned edge 
> type.
>
> Maybe at one point I will introduce a more advanced mechanism for styling 
> edgetypes but this would require a massive code change and is not likely to 
> come in the future. I still hope you can somehow manage to organize your 
> maps!
>
> P.S.  Is this group the correct group for TM questions
>
>
> In case of questions that are more TiddlyMap specific, such as yours, 
> which do not directly involve or target "core" TiddlyWiki concepts, I think 
> it is better to post them at TiddlyMap's GitHub repository. Nonetheless, 
> since TiddlyMap is build on top of TiddlyWiki and some people in the 
> community are using the plugin, you may be able to get some answers to your 
> questions in this forum as well.
>
> -Felix
>
> On 12/30/2016 02:44 PM, Greg Hodgins wrote:
>
> I could have sworn I'd already done this, but perhaps not.  I can't crack 
> it this AM after 30 minutes of searching. 
>
> Can I apply a style to TiddlyMap edge nodes based on namespace?
>
> eg: I have several nodes such as clear: one, clear: two, clear: three, 
> token: one, token: two, token:three
>
> I want the clear edge nodes to be red while the token edge nodes are green 
> - without visiting each of them individually.
>
> Thanks.
>
> P.S.  Is this group the correct group for TM questions
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[tw] [TW5] Is there a single, concise upgrade HowTo anywhere?

2016-12-30 Thread Loyd Gravitt 
I have been using TWC since 2011, over the years making it my single main 
documentation repository for all of my IT notes and documentation.  As TWC 
had had more and more browser specific issues with javascript problems, 
save difficulties and everything else, I decided maybe it is time to look 
at upgrading to TW5.  I have done a couple of hours of reading and found 
the upgrade assistant.  I tried that and of course it now wants me to 
upgrade each tiddler as I open it to convert the classic tiddly markup to 
the new.  The problem is, It totally scrambles the formatting of every 
tiddler.  As an IT person, I have made extensive use of the {{{ ... }}} 
markup for blocks of code.  These are all pretty much illegible after the 
"upgrade".  So now it appears that I have the choice on whether or not I 
want to manually reformat between 600 and 700 tiddlers, stick with the 
growing pains of TWC, or just punt and use another tool.

Is there a simple, single document or sticky thread that contains 
instructions for moving from the classic platform to the 5 version?  And 
before someone says to search and read all of the messages already here, I 
do not have time.  My boss is paying me to administer databases and 
servers, not dig into the intricacies of jason, css, and node,js.  I am 
already regretting the time I invested in learning classic tiddly markup 
and plugin architecture as that is now worthless.

I have done some searching of the Google Group and seen some threads about 
further development of upgrade tools similar to what I am looking for.  Can 
anyone give a status or timeframe on these?

I apologize for the tone of frustration in this post, but time is limited 
and I am not wanting to do much tweaking or development within the 
platform.  I am just a user, by no means technically illiterate, who just 
wants to take almost six years of accumulated tiddlers and seamlessly 
upgrade them to the new format.

Thank you in advance for any help anyone can hopefully give me and Happy 
New Year.

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Re: [tw] TiddlyMap edge node styling by namespace

2016-12-30 Thread Felix Küppers 
Hi Greg,

Can I apply a style to TiddlyMap edge nodes based on namespace?

can you clarify what you mean by "edge nodes"?
Do you mean edges or nodes?

I assume you are talking about "edges". In this case you cannot mix edge styles 
based on a shared criteria (e.g. a common namespace) as it would be possible 
with node styles. Edges can only be styled via their assigned edge type.

Maybe at one point I will introduce a more advanced mechanism for styling 
edgetypes but this would require a massive code change and is not likely to 
come in the future. I still hope you can somehow manage to organize your maps!

P.S.  Is this group the correct group for TM questions

In case of questions that are more TiddlyMap specific, such as yours, which do 
not directly involve or target "core" TiddlyWiki concepts, I think it is better 
to post them at TiddlyMap's GitHub repository. Nonetheless, since TiddlyMap is 
build on top of TiddlyWiki and some people in the community are using the 
plugin, you may be able to get some answers to your questions in this forum as 
well.

-Felix

On 12/30/2016 02:44 PM, Greg Hodgins wrote:
I could have sworn I'd already done this, but perhaps not.  I can't crack it 
this AM after 30 minutes of searching.

Can I apply a style to TiddlyMap edge nodes based on namespace?

eg: I have several nodes such as clear: one, clear: two, clear: three, token: 
one, token: two, token:three

I want the clear edge nodes to be red while the token edge nodes are green - 
without visiting each of them individually.

Thanks.

P.S.  Is this group the correct group for TM questions
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Re: [tw] [TW5] how to show tiddler in tm-modal with template?

2016-12-30 Thread sini-Kit 
Thank you Jeremy I solve this problem by little code  in SampleModal . it 
works good


\define imgmod() 
{{$(name)$||3dsliderModal}}
\end


<$set name="name"  value=<> >
<>




пятница, 30 декабря 2016 г., 18:46:43 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
написал:

> Hi Sini-Kit
>
> One problem is with this part:
>
> yourMessage={{||3dsliderModal}}
>
> Transcluded attributed are never wikified; the text is passed through 
> directly, and so the double bar syntax is not used with transcluded 
> attributes.
>
> If I understand your goal correctly, you’ll need to pass the current 
> tiddler explicitly to the modal:
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="SampleModal" 
> currentTiddler=<>/>
>
> Then your modal can pick up the caption field and other values that you 
> are displaying.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> and so don’t need to resolve the value of the current tiddler.
>
> On 30 Dec 2016, at 14:29, sini-Kit  wrote:
>
>
> Hi! I try to make tm-modal and show there current tiddler with the template
>
>  <$button class = 'onclean2' >
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="SampleModal" 
> yourName={{!!caption}}  yourMessage={{||3dsliderModal}} />
> 
>
> but when I use  {{||3dsliderModal}} it shows nothing  
> I think it's because   SampleModal has field subtitle:<>
>
> is it possible to use {{||3dsliderModal}} in modal?
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Re: [tw] [TW5] how to show tiddler in tm-modal with template?

2016-12-30 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Sini-Kit

One problem is with this part:

yourMessage={{||3dsliderModal}}

Transcluded attributed are never wikified; the text is passed through directly, 
and so the double bar syntax is not used with transcluded attributes.

If I understand your goal correctly, you’ll need to pass the current tiddler 
explicitly to the modal:

<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="SampleModal" 
currentTiddler=<>/>

Then your modal can pick up the caption field and other values that you are 
displaying.

Best wishes

Jeremy

and so don’t need to resolve the value of the current tiddler.

> On 30 Dec 2016, at 14:29, sini-Kit  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi! I try to make tm-modal and show there current tiddler with the template
> 
>  <$button class = 'onclean2' >
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="SampleModal" 
> yourName={{!!caption}}  yourMessage={{||3dsliderModal}} />
> 
> 
> but when I use  {{||3dsliderModal}} it shows nothing 
> I think it's because   SampleModal has field subtitle:<>
> 
> is it possible to use {{||3dsliderModal}} in modal?
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

2016-12-30 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Mark

> The new "Heavier" theme seems to only make the stuff that is already big 
> (titles, headlines, bold text) bigger. The ordinary text stays the same size. 
> For my poor eyes, it's the small stuff that needs to get bigger. Perhaps it 
> works differently on other browsers?

The “Heavier” theme doesn’t actually change the size of any of the text, it 
just changes the font weight. That’s intentional, but perhaps what you really 
want is a “Bigger” theme that bumps up the font sizes of everything. The reason 
that I didn’t bother to create such a theme is that I assumed that people would 
use the browser font size controls. Do they not do the job for you?

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Mark (Windows 7, Firefox 47)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 6:01:16 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> There’s been a rash of updates to v5.1.14 in the last 10 days, making it a 
> good time to have a look at the prerelease at 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
> 
> I’d like to highlight the new QR code generator plugin (installed in the 
> prerelease so that you can try it out easily). I had little idea about QR 
> codes before the recent correspondence here on the mailing list, but am now a 
> convert. If you don’t have a QR code reader on your smartphone I’d highly 
> recommend installing one to play with the prerelease.
> 
> Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t too 
> long/complicated to fit. There are conventions for passing URLs, contact 
> information, wifi details etc., but there is complete freedom; one can make a 
> QR code of JSON if you want (actually a bad idea as the special characters 
> appear to compress badly).
> 
> The QR code plugin adds a generic macro for generating a QR code from a 
> string, and also adds a couple of pre-built ways to use it:
> 
> * A new view toolbar button that displays the current tiddler as a QR code. 
> You can choose from the URL of the tiddler, the raw text, or the rendered text
> * Example forms for generating QR codes for contacts, wifi and generic codes
> 
> Once I’d found the library, getting the plugin up and running was 
> surprisingly easy — I had the first operational version within 30 minutes of 
> starting work. A good illustration of the excellent returns on the effort 
> involved in integrating existing JavaScript components.
> 
> There’s a full list of changes in the release note, but I’d highlight the 
> following bigger changes:
> 
> * Extended search mechanism to require the search string to be a minimum 
> length
> * New Hebrew translation, and preliminary support for RTL languages
> * Improved access to plugin information:
> ** New “Plugins” tab in the “More” sidebar tab, listing all installed plugins
> ** Better display of plugin tiddlers themselves, duplicating the gadget used 
> in control panel
> * Fixed height of preview pane to use a scrollbar when fixed height layout is 
> selected
> * Improved modals and notifications so that global macros are available
> * Extended the SetWidget to allow a single result to be selected from a 
> filtered result list
> * Added new $:/info/url/* information tiddlers providing document location 
> information
> * Added several new filter operators for string encoding/decoding strings 
> according to HTML encoding, URI encoding, regexp escaping and JavaScript 
> string encoding
> * Improved support for bulk loading tiddler files via tiddlywiki.files Files 
> within TiddlyWikiFolders
> 
> I’d like to get v5.1.14 released in the next couple of weeks, so any 
> feedback/thoughts/questions are much appreciated at this point.
> 
> As ever, thanks to everyone listed in the release note for their 
> contributions to this release.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

2016-12-30 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Josiah

> A small point on the editor's behaviour. When you click on any action that 
> has a pop-up you then decide you don't want it you have to click OUTSIDE the 
> editable area to dismiss it. Its not intuitive (to me at least) to have to do 
> that.

The problem there is that the new editor uses an iframe for the text. 
Meanwhile, the main page is listening for mouse clicks to trigger the removal 
of the popup. However, the main page doesn’t get mouse click events for clicks 
within the iframe. So, I think the only fix would be to create a whole new 
mechanism for a click within the iframe to send a message to the main page to 
cancel any outstanding popups.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Best wishes
> Josiah
> 
> On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:01:16 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> There’s been a rash of updates to v5.1.14 in the last 10 days, making it a 
> good time to have a look at the prerelease at 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
> 
> I’d like to highlight the new QR code generator plugin (installed in the 
> prerelease so that you can try it out easily). I had little idea about QR 
> codes before the recent correspondence here on the mailing list, but am now a 
> convert. If you don’t have a QR code reader on your smartphone I’d highly 
> recommend installing one to play with the prerelease.
> 
> Basically, QR codes can be used to transfer any block of text that isn’t too 
> long/complicated to fit. There are conventions for passing URLs, contact 
> information, wifi details etc., but there is complete freedom; one can make a 
> QR code of JSON if you want (actually a bad idea as the special characters 
> appear to compress badly).
> 
> The QR code plugin adds a generic macro for generating a QR code from a 
> string, and also adds a couple of pre-built ways to use it:
> 
> * A new view toolbar button that displays the current tiddler as a QR code. 
> You can choose from the URL of the tiddler, the raw text, or the rendered text
> * Example forms for generating QR codes for contacts, wifi and generic codes
> 
> Once I’d found the library, getting the plugin up and running was 
> surprisingly easy — I had the first operational version within 30 minutes of 
> starting work. A good illustration of the excellent returns on the effort 
> involved in integrating existing JavaScript components.
> 
> There’s a full list of changes in the release note, but I’d highlight the 
> following bigger changes:
> 
> * Extended search mechanism to require the search string to be a minimum 
> length
> * New Hebrew translation, and preliminary support for RTL languages
> * Improved access to plugin information:
> ** New “Plugins” tab in the “More” sidebar tab, listing all installed plugins
> ** Better display of plugin tiddlers themselves, duplicating the gadget used 
> in control panel
> * Fixed height of preview pane to use a scrollbar when fixed height layout is 
> selected
> * Improved modals and notifications so that global macros are available
> * Extended the SetWidget to allow a single result to be selected from a 
> filtered result list
> * Added new $:/info/url/* information tiddlers providing document location 
> information
> * Added several new filter operators for string encoding/decoding strings 
> according to HTML encoding, URI encoding, regexp escaping and JavaScript 
> string encoding
> * Improved support for bulk loading tiddler files via tiddlywiki.files Files 
> within TiddlyWikiFolders
> 
> I’d like to get v5.1.14 released in the next couple of weeks, so any 
> feedback/thoughts/questions are much appreciated at this point.
> 
> As ever, thanks to everyone listed in the release note for their 
> contributions to this release.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Prerelease of v5.1.14

2016-12-30 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Thomas

> I just tried to look into 
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/qrcode/ViewToolbarButton/Rendered  
> 
> first from the plugin (contents tab) then from the advanced search (Shadows 
> tab). 
> 
> All my preferred browsers throw JS errors at me (Safari, FF, Chrome on Mac).

There are, sadly, a bunch of shadow tiddlers in the core that are not safe to 
view directly; they are templates designed to be used in specific 
circumstances, and they run into problems when viewed in the context of the 
story river.

I think the best solution would have been to have arranged things so that 
system tiddlers are always shown as raw text, rather than rendered text. It’s 
too late to change things now for all shadow tiddlers, but I have experimented 
with a patch that displays raw text for all system tiddlers that have more than 
one forward slash in their titles, allowing $:/ControlPanel etc to be displayed 
as usual.

I think at the moment our only other recourse is to fix each individual 
template. The example you’ve mentioned has the following content:

\define image()
>/>
\end

<$wikify name="content" text={{!!text}} type="text" mode="block" 
output="formattedtext">
<>


The problem occurs because when you view this tiddler in the story river, the 
current tiddler will be the tiddler itself (rather than a target tiddler for 
which we are generating a QR code), thus triggering the recursion.

In this case, we could fix things with a protective reveal widget that detects 
that the tiddler is being viewed in the story river, and suppresses the main 
content. The trouble is that all of that extra mechanism will impact 
performance, adding an overhead to every template in the system.

Best wishes

Jeremy



>  
> Uncaught RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded
> 
> Skript: http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ line 25874 > eval:137 (FF)
> 
> Is this due to an error or to the many browser tabs I have in all of my 
> browsers?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Thomas
> 
> PS: Writing this I wondered about case differences in contents / Shadows 
> (first letter uppercase) is there a logic I am not aware of?
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Re: [tw] Re: How will I url encode the viewtemplate of a tiddler?

2016-12-30 Thread Riz 

Thanks Jeremy!!

And that did it. I managed to cook up the macro to share the raw content of 
any tiddler to a few sites and email them. 

If anyone would prefer to use, you can see it in action in 
https://tesseract-index.bitbucket.io/socialmacros/

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Improving tiddler renaming behaviour

2016-12-30 Thread Tobias Beer 
Hi Jeremy,

As I did for TW2, I'm still in favor of storing old titles in a *renamed* 
list field in order to still be able to have links work, for example.

http://renametiddlers.tiddlyspace.com

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] [TW5] how to show tiddler in tm-modal with template?

2016-12-30 Thread sini-Kit 

Hi! I try to make tm-modal and show there current tiddler with the template

 <$button class = 'onclean2' >
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="SampleModal" 
yourName={{!!caption}}  yourMessage={{||3dsliderModal}} />


but when I use  {{||3dsliderModal}} it shows nothing  
I think it's because   SampleModal has field subtitle:<>

is it possible to use {{||3dsliderModal}} in modal?

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[tw] Re: NoteSelf mobile app ( well, kind of)

2016-12-30 Thread Mat 

>
> Hello Mat,.. Was that your first time opening Noteself from chrome?


On my phone, yes.
 
Thanks for video link. Will watch tonight.

<:-)

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[tw] TiddlyMap edge node styling by namespace

2016-12-30 Thread Greg Hodgins 
I could have sworn I'd already done this, but perhaps not.  I can't crack 
it this AM after 30 minutes of searching.

Can I apply a style to TiddlyMap edge nodes based on namespace?

eg: I have several nodes such as clear: one, clear: two, clear: three, 
token: one, token: two, token:three

I want the clear edge nodes to be red while the token edge nodes are green 
- without visiting each of them individually.

Thanks.

P.S.  Is this group the correct group for TM questions

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Improving tiddler renaming behaviour

2016-12-30 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
I also don’t think that UUIDs are a magical solution.

For example, unless we want users to write [[my 
link|eaec2913b78d11a81a68775068fb3107e9029b746e7cbc6d1a1926190c9f6f05]], then 
we’ll want [[my link|my title]] to perform a title search to find the target 
tiddler.

The moment we support such a syntax then we’re back precisely where we started, 
where there will be a strong need for tools which relink titles.

Having said that, as I’ve noted before, there’s little preventing somebody from 
experimenting with a UUID-oriented variant of the default TiddlyWiki user 
interface. One option is to use the title field to contain a UUID but a more 
interesting approach is to use a separate UUID field, and take advantage of one 
of the properties of most UUID generation algorithms: the guarantee that each 
generated UUID will be unique.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 30 Dec 2016, at 08:21, Jed Carty  wrote:
> 
> While using UUIDs may simplify some things it would make others more complex. 
> How do you overwrite a shadow tiddler if they all use UUIDs? If you are able 
> to edit UUIDs to make a new tiddler with the same one then they aren't unique 
> anymore, if you do something like take the tiddler with the same title and 
> the newest modified field than you are back to having titles being the same 
> as UUIDs. 
> 
> I think that while on the surface changing to UUIDs could take care of some 
> things, it isn't actually solving the problems, just moving them.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Improving tiddler renaming behaviour

2016-12-30 Thread Jed Carty 
While using UUIDs may simplify some things it would make others more 
complex. How do you overwrite a shadow tiddler if they all use UUIDs? If 
you are able to edit UUIDs to make a new tiddler with the same one then 
they aren't unique anymore, if you do something like take the tiddler with 
the same title and the newest modified field than you are back to having 
titles being the same as UUIDs. 

I think that while on the surface changing to UUIDs could take care of some 
things, it isn't actually solving the problems, just moving them.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Improving tiddler renaming behaviour

2016-12-30 Thread Danielo Rodríguez 
To be honest, 
If we were using UUIDs instead of user's titles anything of this would matter 

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[tw] Re: NoteSelf mobile app ( well, kind of)

2016-12-30 Thread Danielo Rodríguez 
Hello Mat,.. Was that your first time opening Noteself from chrome? Or maybe 
you have opened it before? Sometimes the automatic update process can get 
messy, I think I will disable it for the next release 

Regarding the offline thing, hope the following video helps you understand the 
concept (please ignore the audio) 

https://youtu.be/WO2iCBKvx4I

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