[tw] TW5 no backups?

[vayira]

Hi! I've used TW for many years it feels like part of my hand but my 
version is an older simpler one (ver 2?) I've been looking at ver5 but it 
doesn't seem to have an auto backup on save option. Is that correct? 

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[tw] Is anybody on this group an active Genealogist?

[Richard Evans]

Hi,

I have an idea for a TiddlyWiki to aid in guiding, documenting and planning 
the research on an individual. I am not a very good programmer, I feel the 
need for help. Is there anybody who would be interested in co-operating on 
developing this idea.

 Sincerely R A Evans 

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Re: [tw] INTRO: tocP - Parent field based Table Of Content

[PMario]

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:23:52 PM UTC+2, Pit.W. wrote:
>
> Hello PMario,
>
> great plugin. This opens the possibility of a 2-dimensional knowledge 
> management, tags vs. fields.
>

glad that you like it.
 

> I am now fiddling with connecting it to TiddlyMap, tidgraph and timeline 
> ... no idea how that will work out, but I will see... Maybe planning vs. 
> actual in a project management environment? Or a connction to tocP, 
> creating a 3D-matrix ? Just thinking...
>

I'm interested if it works out. ... imo Tiddlymap uses a different 
mechanism to describe connections (edges) but the idea is interesting.
 

> At the moment I am still struggling to understand the difference between 
> the two "NewHere"buttons, they seem to be identical except for the icon - 
> or maybe am just not seeing the point...
>

You are right. They do th same thing. I used different icons since they 
don't look right. The tiddler toolbar icon doesn't look good in the tree an 
vice versa. So may be a new icon, which looks good with both sizes may be 
better. We'll see.  
 

> I like the new-button in the tree - great. It encourages brainstorming.  
> That would be great in the standard-ToC as well. Or even: both side by side 
> for 2-dimensional brainstorming ...  
>

We could try to create a PR with NewHere buttons in the TOC macro. Should 
be relatively straight forward.
Drag and Drop was requested too already in a different thread. ...

So no promises! But it would be interesting, if more users want those 
features...
 

> okokok, I got a little finger and now I am grabbing for the whole hand ... 
> shame on me.
>

:) 

>
> Thank you for the plugin.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Pit.W
>

you are welcome!

-mario

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[tw] Re: CSS dot notation not working with lists

[Schalk Burger]

Thank very much for your reply, PMario. 

Your posting was very helpful, I really appreciate that you explained how 
to solve the problem. I was able to adjust the CSS to accommodate for both 
eventualities, 
this helps me to lower the learning curve for users of my wikis that have 
no CSS knowledge at all. 

By the way, I'm of German descent, since my great great grandfather 
immigrated from Germany... ;-p

Kind Regards
Schalk Burger
 

On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 11:35:29 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 2:05:15 AM UTC+2, Schalk Burger wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for the reply, but you did not offer anything new, that could 
>> hint towards an answer to my question(s). I have been referring that exact 
>> tiddler of the TiddlyWiki documentation within my posted questions. Look at 
>> the link hidden in the following: 
>>
>> documentation 
>>> 
>>
>>
> I didn't follow the link. ... my bad!
>  
>
>> Also, I didn't think someone would just drop me the URL to the 
>> documentation, as if saying: "there go look it up" or "figure it out 
>> yourself". I was already referring to that URL in my questions, so to just 
>> drop me the URL, especially without any comment/ explanation or anything, 
>> was just a bit of a disappointment to be honest.
>>
>
>  You are right. I'm sorry.
>
> 
>
> The point of the OP is, that the examples produce different HTML code. So 
> the CSS has to be different too.  eg:
>
> @@.check 
> * one
> * two
> @@
>
> produces:
>
> 
>   one
>   two
> 
>
> which can be styled with CSS (just an example):
>
> .check li {
>   background: yellow;
> }
>
> This mechanism is used, with Tobi Beers FontAwesome example page. ... but 
> IMO it uses a workflow, that is more complicated as it should be. ... As 
> you found out. Since what we want is the following:
>
> ---
>
> *.done one
> * two 
>
> produces: 
>
> 
>   one
>   two
> 
>
> which can be styled with: 
>
> li.done {
>   background: yellow;
> }
>
> *Be aware, that I used ".done" *as the class indicator. So you can use 
> Tobias' TW for testing, without a styling conflict!
> Styles used for the above HTML
>
> li.done{
> list-style-type:none;
> padding:5px;
> }
>
> li.done:before{
> content: "\f00c";
> color: #9bdd81;
>
> font: normal normal normal 24px/1 FontAwesome;
> text-rendering: auto;
> -webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;
> -moz-osx-font-smoothing: grayscale;
> text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px rgba(150, 150, 150, 0.2);
>
> position:absolute;
> display: inline-block;
> margin: 0 0 0 -35px;
> width: 30px;
> font-size: 24px;
> vertical-align: middle;
> }
>
> I personally would try to make the stuff simpler with less dependencies. See 
> my German version. 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/languages/de-DE/#Task%20Management%20mit%20Listen:%5B%5BTask%20Management%20mit%20Listen%5D%5D%20%24%3A_TaskStylesheet%20%24%3A%2F_tags%2FListIcon
> The concept is similar but has a simpler StyleSheet. ... Except creating the 
> data:uri css 
> ..
>  
>
> I use MDN Mozilla Developers Network as my reference manual for HTML, CSS and 
> JS stuff. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Selectors
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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[tw] Presenting: GoToTab - creat links that directly open desired tabs

[Mat]

Yeah, anuther thingy from the TWaddle Nuclear Research Labs

GoToTab 

...is really just a "workflow support" to help you make *links that 
directly open tabs* in tiddlers.
For example, you might want a direct display of the *Saving *tab in the 
Controlpanel or a direct link to 


*Sidebar > More > System.<:-)*

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[tw] Re: Should I request that X be built into TW or as plugin?

[Tristan Kohl]

Thank you Mat for clearing things up. I think the current "plugin 
first" philosophy is quite good of a way to go as it makes adding new stuff 
easy and new plugins serve a proof of concept.

If plugin X becomes so widely used that almost any TW relies on it this 
could be a signal to add the functionality to the core. I like to think of 
this similar to python where new core modules were added if they proofed 
themself worthy.

Cheers,
Tristan

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Re: [tw] [TWClassic] Can't save file anymore in Firefox

[Schorschi]

Oh, there is a TiddlyFox icon. I was able to click on the "Enable Save" 
button and could save the TiddlyWiki file now. Thanks.

Sorry, was oblivious to that.

In that other thread, I vaguely recall reading something about the save 
property not sticking between Firefox restarts, though. Unclear when that 
applies.

So, what do you suggest I should do now with the auto-update switch of the 
TiddlyFox add-on if preserving functionality of my TWClassic pages until 
all eternity is my ultimate goal? Should I leave it on Auto, or force it to 
Off? 

What would have happened had I had the Auto-update switch already on Off 
prior to the update a few days ago? Would I have still had a problem 
saving, or would I have been able to continue my TWClassic hermit life 
undisturbed?

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Re: [tw] INTRO: tocP - Parent field based Table Of Content

[Pit.W.]

Hello PMario,

great plugin. This opens the possibility of a 2-dimensional knowledge 
management, tags vs. fields.


I am now fiddling with connecting it to TiddlyMap, tidgraph and timeline 
... no idea how that will work out, but I will see... Maybe planning vs. 
actual in a project management environment? Or a connction to tocP, 
creating a 3D-matrix ? Just thinking...


What I have already found out:

   If the tocP is integrated into a conditional template (like a
   footer) it works with an adaption like so:

   <>

   where *'$(currentTiddler)$*' is a variable replacing the title
   of the tiddler which calls the conditional template. Same as in
   the standard ToC

At the moment I am still struggling to understand the difference between 
the two "NewHere"buttons, they seem to be identical except for the icon 
- or maybe am just not seeing the point... But then, you made it 
absolutely clear that this is a beta version.


I like the new-button in the tree - great. It encourages brainstorming.  
That would be great in the standard-ToC as well. Or even: both side by 
side for 2-dimensional brainstorming ... okokok, I got a little finger 
and now I am grabbing for the whole hand ... shame on me.



Thank you for the plugin.

Kind regards,

Pit.W

Am 2017-02-06 um 13:58 schrieb PMario:

Hi folks,

I did create an alternative version to create a TOC.
A plugin at: https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/ 
 ... it's *beta *atm!


Triggerd by the Non-tag based collapsible table of contents 
thread 
and based on a


*Important*! -> Don't use your production TW for testing!

You can install the plugin by dragging the plugin link to your TW. The 
plugin contains a readme and a minimal UI to enable / disable the "New 
Child Here" buttons in the tree.


It contains the full functionality. So you have the same possibilities 
that come with the core toc macros.


|tocP .. |A simple tree
|tocP-expandable .. |A tree in which all the branches can be expanded 
and collapsed
|tocP-selective-expandable .. |A tree in which the non-empty branches 
can be expanded and collapsed


|tocP-tabbed-internal-nav .. |The target tiddler appears in the 
right-hand panel, replacing the tiddler that contained the link
|tocP-tabbed-external-nav ..|The target tiddler appears in the normal 
way (which depends on the user's configured storyview)




The tabbed versions don't have the "New Child" buttons

Feedback is very welcome.

have fun!
mario
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Core drag-and-drop improvements

[Alex Hough]

Here's something to play with: drop onto a delete button to remove all tags

Demo here : https://alexhough.github.io/DropToDelete.html


Alex

On 18 April 2017 at 21:21, Douglas Counts  wrote:

> I would also be awesome if the order of the table of contents could be
> rearranged with Drag and Drop.  Doing so would make it incredibly easy to
> customize that tab for a myriad of purposes.
>
> Perhaps to drag current TOC items to the top of the list. Arrange the TOC
> alphabetically with Drag and Drop, etc.  Not having to use macros to do
> this would make TiddlyWiki more accessible to your basic user.
>
> -Doug
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Re: [tw] Re: Numeric position info in $list widget and other filters (working implementation)

[Evan Balster]

Quick reminder because I managed to forget about this myself at one point:
 I *did* provide a working (if hacky) solution in the OP.  The
addposition operator
is a fairly low-impact way to achieve this effect, and it doesn't take
O(N^2) time to execute.

To review, a filter step *addposition[P/N:T]* will turn "MyItem" into
"13/26:MyItem" if it is the thirteenth of twenty-six items.

– Evan

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Steven Schneider  wrote:

> Jed, I had a look at WizardWizard, which is pretty cool, I must say.
> Thanks for doing that.
>
> And thanks especially for pointing me towards your macro. You inspired me
> to explore the "allbefore" operator, which allows me to generate a Tiddler
> X of Y, where Y is the number of tiddlers counted by a filter and X is the
> nth tiddler in the list.
>
> Here is code, which if placed in tiddlers tagged "HelloThere" in
> tiddlywiki.com will create the desired output:
>
> Tiddler <$count filter="[tag[HelloThere]allbefore:include<
> currentTiddler>]"/> of <$count filter="[tag[HelloThere]]"/> tagged with < HelloThere>>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> //steve.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 1:23:10 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> You can list 'Tiddler m of n' without anything new, the wizard wizard
>> plugin does it. I just used count widgets. https://ooktech.com/T
>> iddlyWiki/WizardWizard/
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[tw] Re: Numeric position info in $list widget and other filters (working implementation)

[Steven Schneider]

Jed, I had a look at WizardWizard, which is pretty cool, I must say. Thanks 
for doing that.

And thanks especially for pointing me towards your macro. You inspired me 
to explore the "allbefore" operator, which allows me to generate a Tiddler 
X of Y, where Y is the number of tiddlers counted by a filter and X is the 
nth tiddler in the list.

Here is code, which if placed in tiddlers tagged "HelloThere" in 
tiddlywiki.com will create the desired output:

Tiddler <$count filter="[tag[HelloThere]allbefore:include]"
/> of <$count filter="[tag[HelloThere]]"/> tagged with <>


Thanks,

//steve.







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> You can list 'Tiddler m of n' without anything new, the wizard wizard 
> plugin does it. I just used count widgets. 
> https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/WizardWizard/
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Jeremy Ruston]

> You mean that that address has never worked?

That’s correct; the https typo survived from a very early version of TiddlyFox. 
You must be the first person to notice it :)

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:31:02 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
>> Couldn't you just put a forwarding page at the old address?
> 
> Annoyingly, the erroneous address is https, which has never been implemented 
> for tiddlywiki.com . I don’t have a certificate or 
> appropriate hosting to set it up.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 12:24:56 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>>> When you go to your extensions, click on "More" under TiddlyFox, you get 
>>> the extensions page including the URL I mentioned. Image attached.
>> 
>> Ah, OK, thank you. I think that URL is actually baked into that old version 
>> of the extension; it isn’t metadata that I can change on addons.mozila.org 
>> . So I think the only way I could change it is to 
>> re-issue the old version of the extension; it’s not clear how I could do 
>> that without disturbing the current release.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 12:38:15 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> Hi Mark
>>> 
 As an associated issue, the url listed as the home page for tiddlyfox on 
 the add-on page (https://five.tiddlywiki.com/tiddlyfox 
 ) doesn't seem to work. I've turned 
 off auto-update after hearing of all these problems and might like to 
 check up on the official status from time to time.
>>> 
>>> I can’t find the link; can you point me at the page in question?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jeremy
>>> 
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 
 
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

You mean that that address has *never *worked?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:31:02 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Couldn't you just put a forwarding page at the old address?
>
>
> Annoyingly, the erroneous address is https, which has never been 
> implemented for tiddlywiki.com. I don’t have a certificate or appropriate 
> hosting to set it up.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 12:24:56 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> When you go to your extensions, click on "More" under TiddlyFox, you get 
>> the extensions page including the URL I mentioned. Image attached.
>>
>>
>> Ah, OK, thank you. I think that URL is actually baked into that old 
>> version of the extension; it isn’t metadata that I can change on 
>> addons.mozila.org. So I think the only way I could change it is to 
>> re-issue the old version of the extension; it’s not clear how I could do 
>> that without disturbing the current release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 12:38:15 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark
>>>
>>> As an associated issue, the url listed as the home page for tiddlyfox on 
>>> the add-on page (https://five.tiddlywiki.com/tiddlyfox) doesn't seem to 
>>> work. I've turned off auto-update after hearing of all these problems and 
>>> might like to check up on the official status from time to time.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can’t find the link; can you point me at the page in question?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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[tw] Should I request that X be built into TW or as plugin?

[Mat]

Over on github a fellow member asked if there are any guidelines for what 
is suitable in core/standard distro VS better as a plugin.

I felt a reply is better posted here so wrote this but was interrupted 
before posting. Meanwhile I now see fellom PMario has posted a read-worthy 
answer 
 
too (see end of thread there).:

...

I'm not sure there are any official guidelines but I'd say the reasoning is 
along these lines;

The standard distro ( =the basic TW distribution), and especially the core 
plugin, should generally be kept minimal... or rather, it should not be *too 
slow to load/render.*.. which is the typical cost when adding stuff.  
Another cost is administration/maintenance... which means Jeremy because of 
the TW projects organizational structure.

On the flip side, there is need for key-turn functionality to attract 
users. So standard distro functionality should meet *most users basic needs*
.

The opinion that some suggestion is better as a plugin than in core does 
not mean it is a bad idea (at least I don't think anyone would mean that). 
Rather, the suggestion is probably *too special* to be of general interest, 
at least given the costs it would bring. But then, in then end it's up to 
Jeremy if something is appropriate for core or not.

That said, we still don't have a good solution to access the existing 
community made plugins (imagine an "app store"!) so even if it is justified 
to 'triage' a feature as a plugin there are problematic consequences. 
TWederation will hopefully one day solve this...

<:-)

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Re: [tw] [TW5] list-tagged-draggable Macro. Is it possible to make this on TOC macro.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi sini-Kit

> Hi! I am testing new list-tagged-draggable Macro 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#list-tagged-draggable%20Macro%20(Examples 
> )
>  . So I can drag items in simple list, but is it possible to make the same in 
> TOC (table of contents) tree? To drug items from down level to top?

Yes, the primitive widgets will allow for a draggable TOC, I just haven’t got 
around to implementing it (and don’t expect to have the time before we release 
5.1.14). It’s a good project for somebody else to pick up if you want to learn 
the new drag and drop primitives.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

> Couldn't you just put a forwarding page at the old address?

Annoyingly, the erroneous address is https, which has never been implemented 
for tiddlywiki.com. I don’t have a certificate or appropriate hosting to set it 
up.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 12:24:56 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
>> When you go to your extensions, click on "More" under TiddlyFox, you get the 
>> extensions page including the URL I mentioned. Image attached.
> 
> Ah, OK, thank you. I think that URL is actually baked into that old version 
> of the extension; it isn’t metadata that I can change on addons.mozila.org 
> . So I think the only way I could change it is to 
> re-issue the old version of the extension; it’s not clear how I could do that 
> without disturbing the current release.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 12:38:15 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>>> As an associated issue, the url listed as the home page for tiddlyfox on 
>>> the add-on page (https://five.tiddlywiki.com/tiddlyfox 
>>> ) doesn't seem to work. I've turned 
>>> off auto-update after hearing of all these problems and might like to check 
>>> up on the official status from time to time.
>> 
>> I can’t find the link; can you point me at the page in question?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Couldn't you just put a forwarding page at the old address?

Thanks,
Mark

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>
> Hi Mark
>
> When you go to your extensions, click on "More" under TiddlyFox, you get 
> the extensions page including the URL I mentioned. Image attached.
>
>
> Ah, OK, thank you. I think that URL is actually baked into that old 
> version of the extension; it isn’t metadata that I can change on 
> addons.mozila.org. So I think the only way I could change it is to 
> re-issue the old version of the extension; it’s not clear how I could do 
> that without disturbing the current release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 12:38:15 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> As an associated issue, the url listed as the home page for tiddlyfox on 
>> the add-on page (https://five.tiddlywiki.com/tiddlyfox) doesn't seem to 
>> work. I've turned off auto-update after hearing of all these problems and 
>> might like to check up on the official status from time to time.
>>
>>
>> I can’t find the link; can you point me at the page in question?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>>
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[tw] Re: Getting the value of another Tiddler's field

[Richard Evans]

Thanks Jed that is exactly what I was looking for.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 12:36:57 PM UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Assuming you are using tiddlywiki5 (what is on tiddlywiki.com) than you 
> just need to do this:
>
> |!State|!Research Area |
> |{{Birth Index!!status}}|[[Birth Index]]|
> |{{Birth Cert!!status}}|[[Birth Cert]]|
>
>
>
> some more stuff is here: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20and%20Substitution
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Re: [tw] [TWClassic] Can't save file anymore in Firefox

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Schorschi

> I'm using TWClassic and am unable to save my files in Firefox anymore. I 
> believe it has to do with the recent update of TiddlyFox.
> 
> I saw the other thread "TiddlyFox seemed to stop working", but I'm not sure a 
> solution is provided in there for my situation.

There are two problems identified in the thread:

1) TiddlyFox v2.0.1 doesn’t work in private browsing mode, or with “never 
remember history” enabled
2) The usability issue that many people weren’t expecting and didn’t see the 
new toolbar icon

I’ve posted a prerelease that fixes the first problem and addresses the second 
by adopting a new toolbar icon design.

The prerelease doesn’t work on regular versions of Firefox, so you may have to 
wait for its official release (which is largely due to Mozilla’s reviewing 
timescales).

> I tried reinstalling a previous xpi-file of the TiddlyFox add-on 
> (tiddlyfox_extension_for_firefox-1.0alpha18-fx.xpi), but Firefox refused to 
> install it, because it isn't signed. I have not been able to figure out how 
> to work around that.

You can install signed earlier versions of TiddlyFox from here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tiddlyfox/versions/ 


> I don't have control over application versions at work, so I cannot downgrade 
> or install "an unbranded" version of Firefox that supposedly helps.
> 
> It appears I should have prevented the automatic update of the TiddlyFox 
> add-on? Would that have prevented my issue? But then, why was I able to 
> install the old add-on in the first place if it isn't signed?

It’s not clear whether your issue is one of the two identified above, or a new 
issue we haven’t seen before. Can you confirm whether you can see the TiddlyFox 
toolbar icon?

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> Is there a solution for my problem?
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[tw] [TWClassic] Can't save file anymore in Firefox

[Schorschi]

I'm using TWClassic and am unable to save my files in Firefox anymore. I 
believe it has to do with the recent update of TiddlyFox.

I saw the other thread "TiddlyFox seemed to stop working", but I'm not sure 
a solution is provided in there for my situation.

I tried reinstalling a previous xpi-file of the TiddlyFox add-on 
(tiddlyfox_extension_for_firefox-1.0alpha18-fx.xpi), but Firefox refused to 
install it, because it isn't signed. I have not been able to figure out how 
to work around that.

I don't have control over application versions at work, so I cannot 
downgrade or install "an unbranded" version of Firefox that supposedly 
helps.

It appears I should have prevented the automatic update of the TiddlyFox 
add-on? Would that have prevented my issue? But then, why was I able to 
install the old add-on in the first place if it isn't signed?

Is there a solution for my problem?

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[tw] Re: Getting the value of another Tiddler's field

[Jed Carty]

Assuming you are using tiddlywiki5 (what is on tiddlywiki.com) than you 
just need to do this:

|!State|!Research Area |
|{{Birth Index!!status}}|[[Birth Index]]|
|{{Birth Cert!!status}}|[[Birth Cert]]|



some more stuff is 
here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%20and%20Substitution

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[tw] Getting the value of another Tiddler's field

[Richard Evans]

Hi,

This sounds straight forward, but I cannot get it to work and I cannot find 
any documentation for it.

I have a number of tiddlers with a user field 'status', this field can take 
a number of values: valueone, valuetwo, valuethree, etc. 

I want to have a dashboard tiddler that shows the status of each of the 
monitored tiddlers in a table, thus:

|!State|!Research Area |
|getValue([[Birth Index]],"status")|[[Birth Index]]|
|getValue([[Birth Cert, "status")|[[Birth Cert]]|

I want the final result to be 

| State   | Research Area |
-
| valueOne| Birth Index|
| valueThree | Birth Cert  |

I want to be able to look at te status table, decided what to work on and 
that just click on the tiddler link in the last  column to get to the 
appropriate tiddler.

 Ciao Ric Evans

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[tw] Re: [TW5] list-tagged-draggable Macro. Is it possible to make this on TOC macro.

[Jed Carty]

I made a tool to rearrange the table of contents without the drag and drop 
as one of my earlier experiments with tiddlywiki, using the same idea it 
should be possible to use drag and drop to reorder everything.

Because it uses tags and not a list it would take some things on top of 
just the drag and drop tool.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

> When you go to your extensions, click on "More" under TiddlyFox, you get the 
> extensions page including the URL I mentioned. Image attached.

Ah, OK, thank you. I think that URL is actually baked into that old version of 
the extension; it isn’t metadata that I can change on addons.mozila.org 
. So I think the only way I could change it is to 
re-issue the old version of the extension; it’s not clear how I could do that 
without disturbing the current release.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 12:38:15 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
>> As an associated issue, the url listed as the home page for tiddlyfox on the 
>> add-on page (https://five.tiddlywiki.com/tiddlyfox 
>> ) doesn't seem to work. I've turned 
>> off auto-update after hearing of all these problems and might like to check 
>> up on the official status from time to time.
> 
> I can’t find the link; can you point me at the page in question?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

['mervin mecklenburg' via TiddlyWiki]

This worked when I tried it on the computer that was having problems.  The 
ball appeared, and I believe that it is working; although I have yet to 
test it out.  I appreciate all of the time everyone spent solving this.

Merv

On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 3:15:44 PM UTC-6, Ed wrote:
>
> Awesome!
> Great!
> Jeremy!
>
> You must have used quite some time finding the solution as I saw that 
> every day you updated the TiddlyFox.
> You found it Olé! MulttiDoublePlusThanks. [Orwellian NewSpeak OK, here? 
> 8-)) ]
>
> I immediately reverted from “Never Remember History” to "Remember History" 
> and there was the cat balancing
> on the grey ball ( I have not loaded a TW5 yet) It was on my normal 
> browser. I have not tried the developer one.
> I'll wait for the good news from others more competant people then me.
>
> Just loaded a fresh TW5 and the ball changed to blue after enabling it 
> turned green. Joy!
>
> Cheers!!! Ed.
>  .
> .
> Op dinsdag 18 april 2017 21:38:11 UTC+2 schreef Jeremy Ruston:
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for your help.
>>
>> It seems that the primary problem with 2.0.1 is that it is not configured 
>> for use during “Private Browsing” or when “Never Remember History” is 
>> enabled.
>>
>> I’ve created a new 2.0.2-prerelease build that is configured for private 
>> browsing.
>>
>> Please give it a try and report back before I submit it to Mozilla. 
>> Unfortunately, using unsigned extensions is difficult these days. The 
>> easiest way is to use the Developer edition of Firefox, which will accept 
>> unsigned extensions:
>>
>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/developer/
>>
>> The XPI is available here:
>>
>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlywiki.xpi
>>
>> As usual, questions and feedback are welcome,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On 18 Apr 2017, at 16:51, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> As an associated issue, the url listed as the home page for tiddlyfox on 
>> the add-on page (https://five.tiddlywiki.com/tiddlyfox) doesn't seem to 
>> work. I've turned off auto-update after hearing of all these problems and 
>> might like to check up on the official status from time to time.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

['mervin mecklenburg' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks for the suggestion.  Unfortunately, on the computer that is giving 
me problems, I also seem to have issues with Tiddydesktop.  However, I have 
Tiddlydesktop running on my other computer, which I use as a backup, and it 
is working fine there.  However, I found a work-around for my laptop.  I 
downloaded TiddlyChrome, which appears to run on my laptop and seems to be 
working.  Thanks for the suggestion.

On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 3:14:23 PM UTC-6, Ed wrote:
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> Hi Merv,
>
> Same situation more or less here. At home still Windows 7. At work Windows 
> 10.
> No way I could get the stuff running. That was before Easter, so next week 
> I can check
> my computer at work again.
>
> This afternoon, as work needs to be done. I switched to TiddlyDesktop. 
> Maybe that is
> an option for you too. There is saving and an automatic back-up made. So 
> in fact it is
> pretty good.  Releases for TiddlyDesktop here:
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases
>
> Wish you every bit of succes!
> Tschüß, Ed
> .
> .
>
> Op zondag 16 april 2017 17:49:52 UTC+2 schreef mervin mecklenburg:
>>
>> I am still having the problem.  I use Tiddlywiki on a desktop and a 
>> laptop using Windows 10.  I run the same Tiddlywiki files on both 
>> computers, which I share using dropbox.  I was able to enable saving on my 
>> desktop, but the enabling message, the image of the cat over the ball in 
>> the Firefox tool bar, does not appear on my laptop.  I have also checked 
>> the customization section in the upper left corner of the screen, and the 
>> cat and the ball is not there.  I have reviewed this entire thread, and 
>> followed all of the suggestions to the best of my ability, and the image 
>> still does not appear.  I have the most recent versions of Firefox and 
>> Tiddyfox.  What am I missing?
>>
>> Merv
>>
>>
>>
>> When loading a TW5-file the familiar warning did not show up.
>>> I see that TiddlyWiki for FireFox is updated just today.
>>> I'm using FireFox 52.0.2 (32 bits)
>>> When saving I am offered to download the file after that
>>> I need to reload to continue working.
>>> What's up, Jeremy?
>>> Thanks in advance for comments.
>>> Tschüß! Ed
>>>
>>

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