[tw] Re: TW5 version of TWc DailyTasks plugin?

[cmari]

Wow, that is terrific, thank you so much! I will use this daily. 
I especially appreciate the really clear comments. That made it easy for me 
to add a field that takes advantage of the tooltip and captures the running 
list of dates.
cmari


On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 11:35:01 AM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> That was an interesting challenge. The result of my effort is located at 
> http://dailytasksk.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> The results are less than perfect but similar enough to the original that 
> I don't think you'll have any problem using it. With any luck, it will be 
> close enough to what you want to carry you the rest of the way.
>
> Stephen
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki is very irritating.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Did your original files have any plugins or other core-level changes? That 
might explain your problems. Also, you don't mention your browser or 
operating system. It's been a long time since I've encountered a full-blown 
bug in TW5, but I used to get the red screen all of the time in Pale Moon.

Remember the prime directive of TW5, aka The First Rule of Using TiddlyWiki 


Good luck,
Mark

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:28:36 PM UTC-7, Richard Evans wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been trying to use TiddlyWiki for a long time, but the sheer number 
> of bugs I have encountered has put me off. I keep coming back to see if it 
> is any better. To date, I cannot report an improvement.
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki is very irritating.

[Birthe C]

Hi Richard Evans,

Tiddlywiki has a rather steep learning curve. It does of course depend on 
what we are trying to achieve. I myself is learning by following this 
group, look at the linked tiddlywikies and testing a lot. My private 
Tiddlywikies are mostly using what others created only changed a little to 
fit my purposes.

I have been trying to use TiddlyWiki for a long time, but the sheer number 
> of bugs I have encountered has put me off. I keep coming back to see if it 
> is any better. To date, I cannot report an improvement.
>

I think that waiting for TW to improve is not a good idea. Of course TW 
gets better and better giving more options - and more to learn to use ;-)

I am sure a lot of people will vermently disagree with my previous 
> statement. I stand by it. You are all experienced users of TiddlyWiki, I am 
> a learner. Thus I may not do things in the correct order to prevent the 
> bugs. I have never encountered a message to say that I am doing things 
> wrong, so I have to believe that I have encountered bugs.
>

I think this group has tiddlywiki users of all levels. I think we are all 
learning constantly. Get new ideas and so on.
I would also think that most users have felt frustrated at times, I know I 
have. A little thing is bothering you, you try and try but nothing seems to 
do the trick. If you followed this group you would often see users asking a 
question and short after giving the answer themselves.
We do not get messages telling us things are wrong (except of course java 
script warning). Your TW just does not work as you would want it to.

My current missive concerns a bug in 5.14. I have a number of files that 
> use TiddlyWiki 5. I was updating one, when I decided to upgrade it to the 
> latest version. Accordingly I used the upgrader to upgrade the file. I did 
> this a number of times as there were problems with the final result. The 
> upgrade failed in one of two ways, either the document presented correctly, 
> but none of the menus, buttons etc worked. Or the upgraded document had two 
> menus, ( the section on the right which controls TiddlyWiki) overlaying 
> each other.
>

Did you check for overwritten shadows tiddlers?
Also did you consider sharing a link to a public version of your 
tiddlywiki. Lots of eyes would look at it then, and more eyes catches more 
errors
 

> I gave up at that point and decided to recreate my document (luckily it 
> was short), from scratch in an empty TW5. I did this and again there was a 
> bug, a different one this time! Presumably, to make life interesting. On 
> this occasion, I had two documents one after another in the file. The 
> edited file and original empty file.
>

No one likes bugs. If you found a bug it would be important to share with 
this group in the hope of finding it and hopefully a solution from one of 
the developing members.
 

> TiddlyWiki is a very good idea, but unless these bugs can be squashed in a 
> timely manner I shall have to, reluctantly, give up using it. I am wasting 
> too much time trying to get and keep a clean un-corrupted document.
>

It is clear that you have had a bad experience. Would you consider sharing 
a link to your tiddlywiki giving others the chance to find the reason.

I hope you find what you are looking for tiddlywiki or otherwise. But I 
also recall myself being rather dragged into using Tiddlywiki Classic many 
years ago. To be honest I was curious but it was a relationship of first 
dragging my feet, then love/hate - until about 6 months later = total 
addiction to this day ;-)

Only you are able to decide what will be the best choice for you,
Birthe

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[tw] TiddlyWiki is very irritating.

[Richard Evans]

Hi,

I have been trying to use TiddlyWiki for a long time, but the sheer number 
of bugs I have encountered has put me off. I keep coming back to see if it 
is any better. To date, I cannot report an improvement.

I am sure a lot of people will vermently disagree with my previous 
statement. I stand by it. You are all experienced users of TiddlyWiki, I am 
a learner. Thus I may not do things in the correct order to prevent the 
bugs. I have never encountered a message to say that I am doing things 
wrong, so I have to believe that I have encountered bugs.

My current missive concerns a bug in 5.14. I have a number of files that 
use TiddlyWiki 5. I was updating one, when I decided to upgrade it to the 
latest version. Accordingly I used the upgrader to upgrade the file. I did 
this a number of times as there were problems with the final result. The 
upgrade failed in one of two ways, either the document presented correctly, 
but none of the menus, buttons etc worked. Or the upgraded document had two 
menus, ( the section on the right which controls TiddlyWiki) overlaying 
each other.

I gave up at that point and decided to recreate my document (luckily it was 
short), from scratch in an empty TW5. I did this and again there was a bug, 
a different one this time! Presumably, to make life interesting. On this 
occasion, I had two documents one after another in the file. The edited 
file and original empty file.

TiddlyWiki is a very good idea, but unless these bugs can be squashed in a 
timely manner I shall have to, reluctantly, give up using it. I am wasting 
too much time trying to get and keep a clean un-corrupted document.

   SIncerely R A Evans

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[tw] Attempt to build a Roguelike Dungeongame in TW5

[Jan]

Hello

Inspired by Jed Carthy'shttp://zorklike.tiddlyspot.com/#; I also wanted 
to explore the possibilties of using TW as a plattform for editing games.


I wanted to change the interface to a darker version, where the dungeon 
is all black at start an will only be shown after exploring it.


And I wanted to change mechanism to make it easier for average-users to 
create an own Level, so here the rooms are generated by a matrix of 
squares representing row, column and level (A-1-1 A-2-1 A-3-1... B-1-1 
B-2-1 and so forth) and I implemented an editor which can be accessed by 
a map.


The mechanism is explained in the Wiki; the display of rooms already 
functions, but i have some trouble inserting the correct values for 
moving the player.


So I would be pleased to have your opinions and perhaps some help on the 
move south-button which is there as a test. http://roguelike.tiddlyspot.com/


Thanks
Jan

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[tw] Re: TW5 version of TWc DailyTasks plugin?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

That was an interesting challenge. The result of my effort is located at 
http://dailytasksk.tiddlyspot.com/ 

The results are less than perfect but similar enough to the original that I 
don't think you'll have any problem using it. With any luck, it will be 
close enough to what you want to carry you the rest of the way.

Stephen

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[tw] Re: [NoteSelf] Better revision tools

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Danielo

NoteSelf is pretty amazing for what it can do. The inbuilt revision handing 
looks brilliant.

FYI, there is a small CSS layout issue in the "comparator" with narrower 
screens ...


Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Any CSS HORIZONTAL layouts yet for TW?

[codacodercodacoder]

Yes, I've sort-of done it.

In my case, certain tiddlers format the tiddler body ( ) as a set of css 
columns with fixed height(s).  Those tiddlers then scroll horizontally.

So, not a "storyriver", but certainly a horizontal presentation of the 
content with no vertical scroll at all.

.tc-tagged-bk-layout .tc-tiddler-body {
  max-height:770px;
  overflow-x:auto;
  width: 100%;
  position: relative;
 
  columns:3; -moz-columns:3; -webkit-columns:3;
  column-gap:3em; -moz-column-gap:3em; -webkit-column-gap:3em;
  column-rule: 3px dotted #ddd; -moz-column-rule: 3px dotted #ddd; 
-webkit-column-rule: 3px dotted #ddd;
}




On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 3:02:11 PM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Rather than go with the vertical newspaper metaphor of a column, I wonder 
> if anyone has a horizontal Story River.
>
> It could be good for presenting some kinds of Tiddlers. Particularly good 
> for graphics.
>
> Anyone had a shot at it yet?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>  
>

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[tw] Re: Macro for Google image search

[magev958]

Thank you for your answer. Seems it would require much work way beyond me. 
I'll try to find another way :)

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[tw] Re: Macro for Google image search

[Jed Carty]

I think that you would have to use some part of googles search api. After 
my previous experiences wrestling with googles apis I think it is probably 
going to require a significant amount of digging through the documentation.

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[tw] Re: TW developers level

[Thomas Elmiger]

This is a good – but difficult – question. TW tries to give anyone the 
possibility to do what developers do … 

My clues and associations: 

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/graphs/contributors – gives an 
overview over important contributors to the core. You can click the names to 
see what they might call themseves e.g. Jeremy seems to be the “Creator” of 
TiddlyWiki …

The most active few could in my eyes be called Core Developers, among them 
pmario and tobibeer. 

Then we have many Plugin Authors, at least one  TW-Professor (Steven Schneider) 
and the most helpful Community Members one could wish for. 

Some provide advanced Wikitext-Solutions, others master Javascript-Macros and 
-Widgets. Some develop in Single-Page-Wikis, others on Node.js. Some use 
Github, others don’t. 

Sometimes people that find creative solutions are called TWizards. 

Now you have some keywords to put in a matrix :–)

I hope that helps a bit, even if I do not have a list of generally accepted 
terms but only a vague idea that there are infinite shades of gray. 

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[tw] Macro for Google image search

[magev958]

Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible to make a macro/template to 
include the first image from a Google image search in every tiddler with a 
tag "TAG_1"? All tiddler have a caption-field to use for the search.

Cheers
/Magnus 

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