[tw] Re: Is there a consistent guide on how to modify different parts of the interface of the wiki?

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 19:50:48 UTC+2 schrieb Ton Gerner:
>
> Hi Vayu,
>
> Maybe this can help you: http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Cool. Looks extremly useful.

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[tw] Re: Suggestions for future features

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 16:13:11 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> What's <> ?
>
> I'm wondering myself ;) Honestly: Can't remember why I thought it was 
<>. I once created a "snapshot button" for my menu. It's a 
tiddler called "Print" looking like this:

<$button message="tm-download-file" 
param="$:/core/templates/static.template.html" class="btn-big-green">Save 
snapshot {{$:/core/images/save-button}}

Clicking it will give you a static HTML of all the currently open tiddlers.

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[tw] Re: favicon in tiddlywiki5.x

[Kevin Waite]

uh actually that is 'base64 MyFavicon.ico > favicon.txt'  but it 
DOES work, setting type to image/x-icon so thank you for this!

On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 5:02:27 AM UTC-5, Backslash wrote:
>
> Hi,
> just to enhance documentation after spending some hours to understand how 
> favicon works.
> In this tiddler:
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Setting%20a%20favicon
> You could add following lines to explain better how to add a favicon 
> (tested on chrome 42 and firefox 37 on linux platform):
>
> Already formatted for tiddliwiki
>
>
> * Search for favicon in search bar on right side and open or create 
> $:/favicon.ico
> * convert your image (16x16) in base64, in linux just type in cli:
> ```
> your_image_filename.ico base64 > favicon.txt
> ```
>
> * again in tiddler $:/favicon.ico in plaintext first copy the content of 
> favicon.txt (the base64 img) and then set the content type to "ico format 
> icon file image/x-icon)
> *save
>
>
> best regards 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

What would the performance and safety concerns be for running IIS/WebDav on 
a semi-permanent basis? If you forward the ports (and know your IP) can you 
access your files outside of the home?

Mark

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 10:51:04 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi foks,
>
> I just did a proof of concept using IIS with WebDAV on windows 10 pro. .. 
> It seems to work out of the box, with IE-11, Edge, FF55 and FF57-nightly. 
>
> I will record a short video, so everyone interested, should be able to get 
> it going. ... There is a little issue, with the TW default saver, but it 
> should be streight forward to  fix it. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

[PMario]

Hi foks,

I just did a proof of concept using IIS with WebDAV on windows 10 pro. .. 
It seems to work out of the box, with IE-11, Edge, FF55 and FF57-nightly. 

I will record a short video, so everyone interested, should be able to get 
it going. ... There is a little issue, with the TW default saver, but it 
should be streight forward to  fix it. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: Is there a consistent guide on how to modify different parts of the interface of the wiki?

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Vayu,

Maybe this can help you: http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw] Re: Suggestions for future features

[@TiddlyTweeter]

TiddlyClip is rather good.

J.

Mark S. wrote:
>
> A web clipper is a tool for saving web pages, selected text, or images as 
> tiddlers. It's a key feature of information systems like Evernote and 
> Onenote. Currently you can do this with the tiddlyclip extension and plugin 
> (http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/) in firefox
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Re: [tw] Re: Fountain Parser for a screenwriting tool

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jan

Do lists come into this? As far as I can see all markup for screenplays is 
"horizontal". Lists involve nesting. I can't see the need for it in 
screenplay markup.

Best wishes
Josiah

Jan wrote:
The only problem i see is that in the normal parsing behaviour lists are 
broken if they are not preceded by other list items or an empty line

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[tw] Query: Markup Parsers

[@TiddlyTweeter]

This is an initial query springing from the thread started by Jan on 
"Fountain" markup here--but its more general than that: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/9Lf0YHfMUZk

My question may seem dumb since I don't get the underpinnings.

My FIRST question is this: Is it possible to make a new parser for mark-up 
without having to use JavaScript? Just a macro using Regular Expressions?

Any orientation you can give could help.
Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin import problem

[BJ]

What version of tiddlywiki are you using?
have you tired it in safe mode?

http://tiddlywiki.com/static/SafeMode.html

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 11:34:06 PM UTC+2, Sergey Litvinov wrote:
>
> I drag and drop a link with a plugin (as described in the manual) to my 
> tiddlywiki (tried in different browsers), and.. it is imported, but as a 
> standard tiddler with the text containing the initial link only. 
>
> Plugins through the settings-plugins-get plugins are being installed 
> correctly. So I need to download the HTML file containing the plugin, drop 
> the full file to my tiddlywiki and then manually choose which tiddlers 
> (with the plugin) to import. Sure - it's a workaround, but a bit complex. 
>
> I wonder what happened with my tiddlywiki that it stopped recognizing the 
> links with plugins. And what should I do to fix it?
>
> Thank you in advance for your advises!
>
>

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[tw] Re: Suggestions for future features

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

A web clipper is a tool for saving web pages, selected text, or images as 
tiddlers. It's a key feature of information systems like Evernote and 
Onenote. Currently you can do this with the tiddlyclip extension and plugin 
(http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/) in firefox. It's unclear if this will 
work after coming changes in Firefox. It would be hard or impossible to 
have a built-in capture mechanism in TW because every browser is different, 
and are likely to require some 3rd party assistance. I've been using unmht 
to save web pages lately. You can use iframe to display MHT files in ff and 
then put keywords in your tiddler to help you find it.

What's <> ?

Mark

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 3:52:33 AM UTC-7, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
>
> Built in web clipper (save webpages locally) - (Reference: 
> https://collatenotes.com/)
> It would be much nicer to give a use case than just posting a link.
>
> What's a "web clipper"? Are you sure, the <> macro isn't 
> sufficient?
>  
>
>

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[tw] Is there a consistent guide on how to modify different parts of the interface of the wiki?

[Vayu Asura]

All this information is present on the tiddlywiki.com but it's all over the 
place - some things I've already done I can't repeat because I can't find 
the info I've been using and don't even remember what the names of 
interface parts were. What I'd like to find is a guide that lists different 
toolbars and elements by its official name and lists a system tag that's 
associated with it (e.g. Sidebar - $:/tags/SideBar etc.). I'd like to know 
how to locate existing elements and add new ones correctly. A tutorial on 
how to make tiddlers for the part is optional but would be nice. Parts I'm 
currently specifically interested in are in the screenshot:



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[tw] Re: Suggestions for future features

[Dragon Cotterill]

>
> Quickest search results via indexing through Apache Lucene like docFetcher 
>> (
>> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/portable-desktop-search-make-the-most-of-docfetcher/
>> )
>> Please go through the menus of cherry tree software and incorporate which 
>> is easly doable.
>>
> No. Why?
>
> Well I can certainly give a use case for this option. My Library TW ( 
http://www.kizar.co.uk/TW/library.html ) has pointers to a few gigs of 
external documents (.PDFs), and having an external search capability would 
be a boon here. This is something I have tried looking into, but to try and 
make it seamless for local and online searching is a huge PITA.

To be fair though, you're trying to mix two distinctly different 
technologies here, and the moment you try to do that there is a scope for a 
complete failure. I have made some headroad into this by moving my TW into 
a Domino database and feeding the results back using the Shared Tiddlers 
plugin. But this limits the search system to only being available when 
on-line. Which kind of defeats the purpose when it's supposed to be an 
"off-grid" library. :p

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[tw] Re: Suggestions for future features

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 04:02:40 UTC+2 schrieb Kathir J:
>
> Having tags for each document (Reference: https://collatenotes.com/)
>
It would be much nicer to give a use case than just posting a link.

What's a "document" for you? A tiddlywiki file? Are you sure you did 
explore everything in regards to tiddler creation? Did you check whether 
you can set default tags for every new tiddler?
 

> Built in web clipper (save webpages locally) - (Reference: 
> https://collatenotes.com/)
>
It would be much nicer to give a use case than just posting a link.

What's a "web clipper"? Are you sure, the <> macro isn't 
sufficient?
 

> Import data from Zim Wiki or Text files - (Reference: 
> https://collatenotes.com/)
>
It would be much nicer to give a use case than just posting a link.
 
Did you check http://tiddlywiki.com/#Importing%20Tiddlers? Why not write a 
converter tool yourself? IMHO this is nothing useful for the majority.

Google like search like ambar cloud (Reference: https://ambar.cloud/)
>
It would be much nicer to give a use case than just posting a link.

I do not want to look into this.
 

> Function Keys support to navigate previous/next hit like Folio Views
>
It would be much nicer to give a use case than just posting a link.

 

> Number of search results before search performed like table (Reference: 
> http://table.branham.org/#/main)
>
It would be much nicer to give a use case than just posting a link.
 

> Support for full text search in huge text nodes - example atleast 10,000 
> nodes with 100 kb of text each. Most note-taking software couldn't handle 
> such huge content due to missing indexing
>
You shouldn't create such hge nodes.
 

> Quickest search results via indexing through Apache Lucene like docFetcher 
> (
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/portable-desktop-search-make-the-most-of-docfetcher/
> )
> Please go through the menus of cherry tree software and incorporate which 
> is easly doable.
>
No. Why?

 

> drag and drop support between nodes
>
Works for me. What's wrong there?
 

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Re: [tw] Re: Fountain Parser for a screenwriting tool

[Jan]

Hi Richard, hi Josiah,
I think I will continue my efforts then.
Seeing the syntax fountain uses, it should be the smartest way to do it 
interpreting "action" "charakter" etc as list-items and define a special 
format for them...because you do not have to close them.


The only problem i see is that in the normal parsing behaviour lists are 
broken if they are not preceded by other list items or an empty line
Do you think we could we change that behaviour in the 
$:/core/modules/parsers/wikiparser/rules/list.js?


Yours Jan





Am 29.08.2017 um 12:28 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:

Ciao Jan

I looked more closely at Fountain Syntax.

It might be possible, I think, to do a reduced, but still effective, 
simpler subset in a TW markup. Its basically using regular expressions.


The Fountain *forced* syntax is very simple. Lines starting with 
special characters get converted in a consistent way. This means the 
parser does not to have to make "guesses" the more complex method 
uses. The minimal small "forced" set is only this ...


. = Scene Heading

! = Action

@ = Character

> = Transition

Character is the most complex because its a block, not just a line, 
i.e. its Character name plus dialogue, and sometimes parenthetic comments.


My point is that it might be just as easy, if not easier, to achieve 
directly in TW, rather than import a library.


Just thoughts
Josiah

On Monday, 28 August 2017 22:40:35 UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hi Josiah,
fountain (at least as it seems to me) is a markuplanguage with a
freeware .js. Hopfully it could be implemented like markup is in
the new release, some features are already very similar.
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Fmarkdownlike%2Freadme


There are implementations for libre-office and mediawiki.

Developping the story of course will be a task for TW.

Yours Jan


Am 28.08.2017 um 17:26 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:

I feel for you

Its a lot more difficult than it first looks.

The strictness of the screenplay form is both what is good about
it and challenging.

I'm incapable of helping you with code. However I can help with
conceptualisation of how to think about screenplays.

In my own thinking they are a mix of TWO fundamentally different
types of things.

A script is a crossing of "vertical" sections (act, scene etc)
and "horizontal" components that form the "content"  -- Dialogue,
Direction, Actions, Scene instructions.

Whilst its relatively easy to think about Tiddlers to create the
"vertical aspect" its not at all easy to conceptualise how to
most appropriately do the "horizontal" content. Should they be
separate Tiddlers? Or just Boilerplate text?

Some cases bring out more clearly the needs. For instance, would
you need to be able to extract ALL but ONLY the dialogue of Eve?
To be able to do that all Eve's dialogue would need to be in
Tiddlers OR you gonna have to develop very smart Regular
Expressions to extract it. The same applies to Scene Setting that
Executive Producers &  DPs would need.

My feeling now about Fountain is its excellent if you going for
the Regular Expressions extraction method. TW can actually do
much more than Fountain. I think the issue is getting the right
conceptual model to start from.

Just thoughts


On Monday, 28 August 2017 15:44:44 UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hi all,
I am working on a tool for screenwriting (So far in german
but with a
languageTiddler to configure:
http://storywriting.tiddlyspot.com/
)
The aim should be managing ideas, roles and storylines and of
course
formatting Wikitext  as a screenplay.
After hours of trying to adapt the normal rules and getting
into an
awfull mess I finally decided I should follow an Idea brought
up by BJ
and Josiah and implement
the fountain library https://fountain.io/
Is there anyone who has done this already?
At the moment I got no clue how this could be achieved.

Yours Jan


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[tw] Re: [TW5] timeline macro & days filter - I don't get it.

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Dienstag, 29. August 2017 16:41:03 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
>
> The "days" operator was added at version 5.1.10.
>
> Thanks Mark!

I was a bit reluctant to upgrading but thanks to the wonderful work of 
Jeremy it was really flawless. 

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