Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to default SelectWidget to the first entry in a list?

2017-09-08 Thread Dave

I figured it out -  If you do this:

\define s.test.result(mytestname,myresult:"neg")

if the value passed to it is empty, it sets the value to whatever you 
provide after the ":"


That solves my problem, but I don't know if its helpful for the OP (i.e. 
when the list is actually changing from one instance to another)


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[tw] Re: Link to tidier from modal?

2017-09-08 Thread magev958
I have tried different ways of adding the tiddler to be opened to 
the $:/StoryList and closing the modal but to no avail. Anyone know if it 
would be possible to make a macro to achieve this?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New Plugin - Json Mangler!

2017-09-08 Thread Joshua Fontany
Thanks for the creative criticism PMario. I've updated the repository and 
cleaned up the file-structure a bit (made the FontAwesome macros into their 
own plugin).

I will be using this to design "Models" and "Views" for an RPG Campaign 
Wiki, so that sub-types of Character, Items, Etc, can have individualized 
templates for their "statistics" and "stat sheets" to view them through. 
Look for that coming up pretty soon. :D

Mahalo!

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 11:14:54 PM UTC-7, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to introduce a cool message-catcher widget and related UI 
> tiddlers that I created to make working with Json Tiddler's a bit easier. 
> Let me know what you all think! :)
>
> = Thanks to all the folks that post here, it was interesting researching 
> this problem to get to this working code. Mahalo - Thanks! =
>
> https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-JsonManglerPlugin
>
> $ 
> jsonmangler
>
> This is a json mangler plugin for TiddlyWiki (http://tiddlywiki.com) by 
> Joshua Fontany.
>
> It contains a widget module *$jsonmangler*, which catches the following 
> messages sent by the ActionSendMessage widget (within Button widgets, etc).
>
> *tm-json-refresh* - Refreshes the json tiddler's formatting.
>
> *tm-json-flatten* - Flattens the json's keys (flattens nested objects, 
> etc) to one layer deep. Values are assigned to an index that is the 
> dot-notation version of the path to the original value.
>
> *tm-json-unflatten *- Unflattens the json's keys (re-nesting objects, 
> etc) from a flat tiddler. Path Keys are read and objects are re-created.
>
> *tm-json-restore* - Restores data from the json's archive. The Refresh, 
> Flatten, and Unflatten operations store a copy of the old text field in an 
> archive tiddler: $:/archive/json/jsonTiddlerTitle
>
> *tm-json-push */* tm-json-pull* - Flat jsons with titles that end in 
> ".json" only. Pushes or pulls the json's keys (& optionally values) to or 
> from the json's "parent". The parent is a tiddler with the exact same title 
> without the ".json" extension.
>
> This functionality is currently implemented in an Edit Template shown for 
> all tildders of type 'application/json'. When creating new Json Tiddlers, 
> set a 'flat' field to either "true" or "false" (depending on how the 
> tiddler is created) and save the tiddler, then re-open the tiddler in edit 
> mode to ensure all mangler functions are performed correctly.
>
> See the example wiki for more information: 
> https://joshuafontany.github.io/TW5-JsonManglerPlugin/
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

2017-09-08 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Thanks Thomas!

As a thought for future implementations, perhaps consider offering a 
drop-down list of custom filters.

I'm wondering, did you develop or find any date comparison filters in your 
application? That is, is there any way to make a filter that will compare 
dates, and show/hide certain tiddlers based on dates?

On another topic, I'm wondering how (or if) people are implementing GTD 
concepts. In particular, if projects are just tagged tiddlers, how does 
anyone implement the GTD idea of a next action?

That is, if there are multiple tiddlers associated with a Project/Tag, how 
is one particular one made the focus of attention?

Thanks!
Mark

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 12:26:07 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Finally I am ready to officially release a new update and additional 
> extensions for my GTD solution called ToDoNow. 
>
> *TL;DR*
>
>- The biggest innovation is a new plugin called *Reminders* that can 
>show alerts and reminders for tasks with a deadline. 
>- Many other things have been improved, simplified or added as options.
>- All useful combinations of plugins are *available as Bundles *now, 
>kudos to Mario and Josiah for this great invention!
>
>
> New in Version 1.0.7
>
>- New Addon: Outlook
>   - Outlook shows tasks for today/tomorrow/next 7 days – comes with 
>   translations en, de, dk
>- Support for new/updated Plugins
>   - *Reminders: I built a new plugin 
>   
>  
>   for this, in theory it could be used for any deadline fields with TW 
> dates 
>   in them …  *
>   - Datepicker  0.5.2 and 
>   moments.js (info)  2.18.1 by kixam
>   - Checklist by Tony Grosinger  
>   in the great new version 0.0.14
>  - hint: use tab and space bar to navigate, activate and delete 
>  subtasks
>   - Download options
>   - Bundles  for simple to 
>   sophisticated solutions (see sidebar, *Bundles* tab) – download as 
>   JSON, throw on your wiki, reload
>   - Demo/download page for the complete solution: 
>   https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html (kind of an edition)
>   - Plugin info: new tabs for configuration and usage 
>- *Danish* translation by *Birthe – thank you!*
>- Documentation update
>- and possibly other cool features I forgot to list here
>
> As allways: Be sure to have a backup ready before you try this, even if 
> it’s working flawless for me and other testers. 
> If you update from a prior version you might have to delete local copies 
> of shadow tiddlers. Update all plugins!
>
>
> Found a bug or a feature? Please report here! – There is still potential 
> in many details, I hope some of you (again) will help me to dig it up. 
>
> And last but not least: A special *thank you* to my power user Josiah – 
> some of your hints are still on my personal todo list.
>
>
> Happy Do-ing!
>
> Thomas
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread Mat
Updated 

Hopefully everyone can see the "add to filter arrows" now (thanks Josiah!)

A function I realized I needed but still miss is a button next to each 
listed title to remove it from the filter (i.e add -mytitle or -[[my 
title]] to the filter). Experiments with listops have failed thus far and I 
will probably post separately on this.

<:-)

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[tw] Embed Tiddlywiki within a database driven website

2017-09-08 Thread Paul P
Hi

I want to embed multiple Tiddlywikis within an existing database driven web 
application. Think of this as a database of Tiddlywikis.

I am new to Tiddlywiki. My hope is to store the entire Tiddlywiki as text 
in a database via the web application such that I can retrieve and save in 
the same way as any other text field. The entire Tiddlywiki would be stored 
in the database. I would add a button on a screen in the web application 
that would allow the user to "Open the Tiddlywiki", which would use the 
text from this new field which stored the wiki page, similar to the way the 
entire wiki can be saved to a local file. If that is not the way to go, 
then maybe some pointers on how to save just the data (as json, but again, 
to a text field on a screen). Ideally, installed plugins would be saved 
also. The idea is to store the wiki almost as it is a new "field type" 
along with other fields on an existing screen. I would rather not send 
directly to a server, as I cannot control too much of what the server will 
accept. But it will accept and return text fields so I hope to use that.

Any ideas on how to proceed? Thank you!

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

2017-09-08 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hello early adopters ;–)

There is an update for you: 

Version 1.0.8
   
   - User filters are back – better than ever!
   - Configuration info update – how to translate/adjust date and time 
   formats (it’s meant to be easy – let me know if you need help)
   
Both https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html and https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html are up 
to date.


Thanks, good night & all the best!

Thomas

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[tw] How to change text editor settings?

2017-09-08 Thread Riz
zen mode is an interesting option to have.  I am afraid I don't have a solution 
to offer here.  However,  the edit field is, essentially created by edittext 
widget.  Edit text widget has a property called focuspopup. Which means,  there 
exist a mechanism to "if edit field has focus,  do this". If you can find that 
mechanism and replicate it for revealing a bunch of styles that hide the rest 
of TW when edit field has focus, you ll have what you want I guess. 

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[tw] Re: Tiddly New Names :-)

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Tx, its getting better, slowly. BUT they now have to move again. Much of 
South East Texas is in total chaos.

Lost Admin wrote:
>
> My deepest sympathy to your friend in Texas and her cats. I hope the cat 
> recovers.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Tiddly New Names :-)

2017-09-08 Thread Lost Admin
My deepest sympathy to your friend in Texas and her cats. I hope the cat 
recovers.

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 3:17:38 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Lost Admin
>
> My dear friend in Texas lost her home to Harvey a few days ago. She has 
> cats. One of them got ill as its a "house cat" and had never seen the 
> outside world before. She is in shock too, losing a home & no clarity about 
> her future. 
>
> Cats do express well.
>
> Not a happy message. But real enough.
>
> Josiah, x 
>
> On Friday, 8 September 2017 21:06:21 UTC+2, Lost Admin wrote:
>>
>> Finally something vaguely newish today that isn't depressing or scary (or 
>> both).
>>
>> If you don't know and want depressing/scary Google Equifax. I assume you 
>> already know about hurricane Irma.
>>
>> to cheer myself up, here's a cute cat picture.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 2:59:57 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> TiddlyVicki
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: How to change text editor settings?

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S: 
Now for some reason, I want to go out and repair a motorcycle.

I thought you were an archer?
J.

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[tw] Re: How to change text editor settings?

2017-09-08 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Oh? Is that what's meant by Zen node? In another post I got some help from 
Jeremy making a similar tool.

Put this code into a tiddler:

<$select tiddler="$:/state/side-edit-tiddler" tag="input">
<$list filter="[!is[system]sort[title]]">
>><$text text=<>/>




<$edit-text tiddler={{$:/state/side-edit-tiddler}} 
class="tc-edit-texteditor"/>


Then open the tiddler in it's own window. From the drop down select the 
tiddler you want to concentrate on. That's it. Distraction (and edit-bar) 
free writing. I'm sure someone could come up with a better version (like 
restoring the edit bar) if there was a demand.

Now for some reason, I want to go out and repair a motorcycle.

HTH
Mark


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[tw] Re: Tiddly New Names :-)

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Lost Admin

Mr dear friend in Texas lost her home to Harvey a few days ago. She has 
cats. One of them got ill as its a "house cat" and had never seen the 
outside world before. She is in shock too, losing a home & no clarity about 
her future. 

Cats do express well.

Not a happy message. But real enough.

Josiah, x 

On Friday, 8 September 2017 21:06:21 UTC+2, Lost Admin wrote:
>
> Finally something vaguely newish today that isn't depressing or scary (or 
> both).
>
> If you don't know and want depressing/scary Google Equifax. I assume you 
> already know about hurricane Irma.
>
> to cheer myself up, here's a cute cat picture.
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 2:59:57 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> TiddlyVicki
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Tiddly New Names :-)

2017-09-08 Thread Lost Admin
Finally something vaguely newish today that isn't depressing or scary (or 
both).

If you don't know and want depressing/scary Google Equifax. I assume you 
already know about hurricane Irma.

to cheer myself up, here's a cute cat picture.




On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 2:59:57 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> TiddlyVicki
>
>

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[tw] Re: How to change text editor settings?

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

>
> kelsang sherab wrote:
>>
>> 2. I'd lke to have a 'Zen' feel to the editing/writing environment by 
>> being able to make evrything that is not just the text i write to disappear 
>>
>  
PMario wrote: 

> There's no Zen-mode at the moment. 
>
> For those who don't know zen-mode. It's a kind of "distraction free 
> editing" ... see: https://github.com/blog/1379-zen-writing-mode as an 
> example.
>

Saying "Perry Mason" three times always helps with that :-)

Best wishes
Josiah
 

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[tw] Re: How to change text editor settings?

2017-09-08 Thread PMario
On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 11:16:34 AM UTC+2, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> 2. I'd lke to have a 'Zen' feel to the editing/writing environment by 
> being able to make evrything that is not just the text i write to disappear 
>

There's no Zen-mode at the moment. 

For those who don't know zen-mode. It's a kind of "distraction free 
editing" ... see: https://github.com/blog/1379-zen-writing-mode as an 
example.

-m

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[tw] Re: How to change text editor settings?

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
kelsang sherab wrote:

2. I'd lke to have a 'Zen' feel to the editing/writing environment by being 
able to make evrything that is not just the text i write to disappear 

Saying "Perry Mason" three times sometimes helps with this :-)

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: How to change text editor settings?

2017-09-08 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
If you make a tiddler tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet and add this content:

.tc-edit-texteditor { background-color:lightblue;  }

then after closing and re-opening the editor, the background text will be 
light-blue. You can set it to some other color of course.

I don't understand what you want on item #2. Perhaps someone else can help.

Good luck,
Mark

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 2:16:34 AM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
>
> Hi
> I would like to 
>
> 1. change the color of the text editor from white to something less 
> painful on the eyes
>
> 2. I'd lke to have a 'Zen' feel to the editing/writing environment by 
> being able to make evrything that is not just the text i write to disappear 
>
> Are the above two things possible?
>
> If possible some instructions will be appreciated
>
> Cheers
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
would  /  do? they both work for me in Chrome & Firefox and 
seem to be in most common fonts.

On Friday, 8 September 2017 18:28:40 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mat,
>
> there is a Unicode guide to font support for arrows here ...
>
> https://www.key-shortcut.com/en/writing-systems/35-symbols/arrows/
>
> Maybe it shed some light on the issue?
>
> Hex 2BA5 has virtually no wide support in common fonts according to the 
> charts there.
>
> J.
>

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[tw] Re: Ghostwriter theme by Rory Gibson adapted for TW5

2017-09-08 Thread Riz




Hi Susu,

I am glad to see that you are enjoying the theme.

Let us get to the issues you raised.




First of all I did notice, that this link is not working. 
> here:https://ibnishak.github.io/
>



1. ibnishak.github.io is not working. Yeah, I moved my blog and much of the 
TW related stuff to a private repo in gitlab. IWhatever I presented the 
community has been kept as is, if anybody ever manages to find it. I had 
plans to set up a blog describing my tinkering with TW, but time is harsh 
master.









I would love to ask  why I do see a 'strange tiddler text editor'  
> [cursor size/can't see marked text] .
>


This is indeed strange. May be I am misunderstanding here, but you are 
experiencing diffuclties with the edit template, and cursor. The theme does 
not modify edit template at all. Further more, I am at a loss on how to 
reproduce the error. Have you had any modifications made to edit-template?



On the left side of the tiddler I do see the tiddler tags. Can I delete 
> this option to show those tags on the right side?
>



Sure, Download the attached "Move tags to right.json", and drag and drop it 
to your TW. Although I suspect this might be buggy, especially some drop 
down somewhere is going to act up. I have not had a chance to test it in 
detail. If you come across an issue, let me know


Is there any possibility to just have a date without a timestamp below the 
> tiddlers title ?
>

 

Sure, Download, the attached "$__language_Tiddler_DateFormat.json" and drag 
and drop it to your TW. In fact you can do it in any of your Tiddlywikis  - 
it is not a part of ghostwriter theme.  Open your Advanced Search, find the 
tiddler "$:/language/Tiddler/DateFormat" and modify it to your wishes. 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#DateFormat will guide you better on how to achieve 
what you want. 



 And I do find your  CL'EVERNOTE' theme so so amazing, too! Do I find that 
> online? 
>

 


I repurposed that for another TW project. Releasing it as a theme at this 
point will be hard work. At the point of making it, I was waiting out for 
the resolution of "How to archive the wisdom of TW group" debate. Later, 
pardon my short attention span, I lost interest. 


On a general point, it is nice to see general interest in the optics of TW. 

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Move tags to right.json
Description: application/json


$__language_Tiddler_DateFormat.json
Description: application/json


[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mat,

there is a Unicode guide to font support for arrows here ...

https://www.key-shortcut.com/en/writing-systems/35-symbols/arrows/

Maybe it shed some light on the issue?

Hex 2BA5 has virtually no wide support in common fonts according to the 
charts there.

J.

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Neither work on tiddlywiki.com in Firefox OR Chrome for me.

Windows 7 Pro.

Weird. Are they dependent on LOCAL font files?

J, x


Both work in Chrome

On Friday, 8 September 2017 17:40:22 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> I get a character encoding problem with the latest on Firefox ...
>
>
> Josiah, thanks for reporting. 
>
> This is a bit surprising as I'm using the utf hex format, specifically
>
> 
>
> would you mind seeing if the HTML decimal format works for you: i.e simply 
> put this in a tiddler
>
> 
>
> it should show a little angled arrow.
>
> I picked it up from this 
>  neat 
> site (do a search for 2ba5 to find that particular arrow). Does that site 
> show a lot of faulty characters for you? Is there any "systemic" problem, 
> i.e are perhaps all characters in specific tables there problematic? Most 
> importantly; which ones work?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread Mat

>
> I get a character encoding problem with the latest on Firefox ...


Josiah, thanks for reporting. 

This is a bit surprising as I'm using the utf hex format, specifically



would you mind seeing if the HTML decimal format works for you: i.e simply 
put this in a tiddler



it should show a little angled arrow.

I picked it up from this 
 neat 
site (do a search for 2ba5 to find that particular arrow). Does that site 
show a lot of faulty characters for you? Is there any "systemic" problem, 
i.e are perhaps all characters in specific tables there problematic? Most 
importantly; which ones work?

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mat

I get a character encoding problem with the latest on Firefox ...

Best wishes
Josiah

Mat wrote:
>
> Updated
>
> main change: quick buttons to add e.g a title to the filter (the blue 
> arrows) and buttons to empty out the filter.
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread Mat
Updated

main change: quick buttons to add e.g a title to the filter (the blue 
arrows) and buttons to empty out the filter.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Thomas

A few comments, some suggestions & a minor bug note ...

*COMMENTS*

*"Alarms" -- *Worked seamlessly for me. I been using it over a month. Very 
good. No issues. Incredibly useful.

Because I close the TW every night, the next morning on opening I see 
alerts for everything urgent I need to.

*Outlook -- *Neat feature. Helps orientate. Minimal footprint. Its 
practically very useful to me when I get in a mess with my schedule and 
need to quickly see what I need to put right.


*SUGGESTIONS*

*Date Display* -- Not sure if its possible but I don't read dates well in 
the format "2017-09-07". Any chance of the display format: *day: date: mon: 
year? *E.g. like this (in English) ...



*Mon 7 Sep 17*
*Alarm Time Display? *-- At the moment you have to hover on an alarm to see 
the time setting. I'd find it more useful if the time of an alarm, once 
set, was displayed. E.g. like this ...



*17:45*
The point is that its a deadline. *Once you move it to the ToDoNow section 
I'd like it displayed *because on that one day you may have, for instance, 
3 deadlines. Its important to be able to see them in that context.

NOTE: I personally *do NOT need alarm times showing in the ToDo or ToDoDone 
sections*.

*Spacing* -- Whilst ToDoNow is minimalist in design I think you are 
sometimes over generous with spacing ... Like this that occurs between 
sections... Could it be tightened?



*Create / Edit in Popup or modal?* -- I may have suggested this before. 
Since ToDoNow is not just an app, its an INTERFACE, I'm wondering IF when 
you invoke the full editor it can be in a POPUP or MODAL.

The point is that IF you go the normal route to creating a Tiddler then it 
breaks the visual minimalism of the interface. Since ALL Tiddlers created 
through the ToDoNow interface immediately appear in the ToDoNow interface 
leaving them on screen as independent Tiddlers is redundant. 

I guess an easier way than coding for pop-ups might be to enforce only the 
SAVE & CLOSE button on all Tiddler creation / edits (which you recently 
worked on). That would be a workable solution too.



*BUGS?*
Only thing I found so far ... that Mark S. commented already on is that the 
"User Filter" is missing on the page even though it can be configured ...

Thank you for an absolutely brilliant piece of work.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

2017-09-08 Thread Lost Admin
We should just completely ignore Lighttpd as it isn't doing any locking at 
all. I just tried to force an error with two different browsers that should 
have resulted the 2nd one getting an error. Instead, the second one 
overwrote the first. Lighttpd might be sending an ETag, but it is ignoring 
the If-Match.

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 8:50:40 AM UTC-4, Lost Admin wrote:
>
>
> If you look at the series of screenshots I created (
> https://wiki.suntrap.ca/davsaver.html), you will note that although 
> Lighttpd doesn't send a 412 with the second PUT request, the ETag/If-Match 
> is dropped in the 2nd PUT request. I *think* something has happened to 
> remove all file locking protections after the first PUT. I haven't had time 
> to set-up a working IIS test environment or I would have that sequence 
> set-up too.
>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

2017-09-08 Thread Lost Admin
I was looking through the Apache (which is a bit unfair) and www.webdav.org 
sites. I inferred a lot of what I think I understand.

>From what I can tell, there is no solid solution for data locking with 
WebDAV itself but there are some options available:

WebDAV does have a built-in locking mechanism. Apache does support it but 
you have to turn it on. I haven't researched this one very far beyond 
reading about it's existence. The client would need to send a lock request 
(I haven't figured out how that is done yet) before (or during?) the GET 
request. Then use some reference to that with the PUT request. After that, 
as I understand it, the calling application would need to request a new 
lock after the PUT to continue editing (although that might actually be a 
misunderstanding on my part). Sorry, I can't find the reference to this now.

For hard locks WebDAV Locks, the most coherent explantion I found 
is http://www.webdav.org/mod_dav/install.html#apache (part way down, 
beginning with Enabling DAV).

Apache support two methods of "lazy updates". A lazy update is where the 
application doesn't actually request a lock. Instead the requesting 
application sends a "update based on some earlier version based on some 
value" and if the file hasn't been changed since that value was current, 
then the update happens, otherwise you get the 412. The two choices (for 
Apache) that I've found are:

ETag and If-Match, which we currently only sort-of use right (based on how 
Apache behaves). I don't have a good clear single source of information. I 
read a bunch of blogs from programmers complaining about it (not 
specifically related to WebDAV) and a variety of Apache docs on cache 
control.

If-Modified-Since header, which is based on the timestamp of the GET 
request. I stumbled across this one in a blog post but now I can't find it.

Both of the ETag/If-Match and If-Modified-Since are actually cache control 
mechanisms.

Sorry for my crappy references.


In my personal opinion, I do think that ETag (or If-Modified-Since) is the 
way to go but we need to figure out a way to either get one back as a 
response to a PUT request (I've been trying to figure this out but so far 
have failed) or to figure out a way to do a follow-up GET request to reload 
the file from the WebDAV server after saving.


If you look at the series of screenshots I created 
(https://wiki.suntrap.ca/davsaver.html), you will note that although 
Lighttpd doesn't send a 412 with the second PUT request, the ETag/If-Match 
is dropped in the 2nd PUT request. I *think* something has happened to 
remove all file locking protections after the first PUT. I haven't had time 
to set-up a working IIS test environment or I would have that sequence 
set-up too.

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 4:59:40 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Ok, so how *does* web dav take care of making sure someone is editing the 
> latest version? Or does it use the entirely file-system concept of locking 
> files for editing?
>
> Are we barking up the wrong tree with the idea of using web DAV? It is 
> entirely file system centered. The fact that it can handle web requests 
> seems almost incidental. Or maybe it is just the simple fact that the PUT 
> saver nowhere near implements the entire DAV protocol. 
>
> What protocol talks about Etags in 204 responses? The one I found only 
> mentions it once in relation to a PUT request by saying that there is no 
> specific definition of whether it should guarantee the file content is 
> exactly byte-for-byte identical to the PUT request.  
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4918.txt
>
> The HTTP/1.1 spec is at https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt
>
> I can't find anything in either of those just by searching for "etag".
>
> Just some thoughts.
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Lost Admin  > wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to dig into the proper specs on the use of ETag and it 
>> looks like it is only supposed to be sent from the server along with the 
>> data. Thus the PUT request is not supposed to include a new ETag. I 
>> *think* Apache is actually doing it right.
>>
>> Also, I did the same series of screenshots on my test Lighttpd server 
>> (which doesn't experience the same 412 error) and for some reason, the 
>> If-Match header gets dropped from the subsequent PUT requests headers. I 
>> don't know why it would be different as I think that header is coming from 
>> the client side.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:18:07 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> It is becoming pretty clear that for some reason the Etag is not being 
>>> set in the response header, nor anything else equivalent to it. Per our 
>>> discussion privately, it does seem that this is an Apache issue, however I 
>>> have not been able to look into it further. 
>>>
>>> A couple of articles which touch on this: 
>>>
>>>- 
>>>
>>> 

[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread Mat

>
> Have to admit I was slightly thrown by the thread title "Batch Manipulator 
> - mass tagging" ... 
>

You're right. That was the original premise but it has since expanded. 
Unfortunately it's not possible to edit thread titles AFAIK 


@moderator - if possible, could it be changed into "Presenting: Batch 
Manipulator - mass tag/field manipulation"


<:-)

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread Mat
@TiddlyTweeter

I am, in spite of what I said, doing some tweaking on it so you may want to 
wait just a little with evaluation.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mat

*Footnote ...*

Have to admit I was slightly thrown by the thread title "Batch Manipulator 
- mass tagging" ... 

I think that sells it short of what it does.

Best
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mat

I took a closer look. The BATCH MANIPULATOR is seriously useful for 
maintenance.

It did take me a while to figure out how to use it. That's likely because 
of its flexibility combined with my slowness in learning.

I do a few more tests & then, all being well, will replace several batch 
tools I pickup up along the way with this one tool. 

TX.

Best wishes
Josiah

p.s. My *inline Perry Mason problem* I leave for another day.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

2017-09-08 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao readers ...

I think Thomas has made with the listreveal / ToDoNow combo more than an 
app--its a really good instance of an INTERFACE. Even if the To Do's are 
not your thing its worth looking at. Its rich, yet still intuitively easy 
to use. 

I think the mechanism could be used as a BLUEPRINT for lots of Apps.

I'm considering using it as model for an interface for writing Screenplays. 

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Ghostwriter theme by Rory Gibson adapted for TW5

2017-09-08 Thread susuitsusu


Hi RIZ,


I do love your work! Thank you so much for that great theme! I really 
appreciate all of your work! THANKS SO MUCH! Just some short questions are 
left... 


First of all I did notice, that this link is not working.

here:https://ibnishak.github.io/ 



I would love to ask  why I do see a* 'strange tiddler text editor'  [cursor 
size/can't see marked text] . * 


1.

I did uploaded a picture ['strange tiddler text editor'] 
. 

There a a couple of things taht I can't do or see in the text editor. 


2.

Is there any possibility to just have a* date without a timestamp below the 
tiddlers tittle* ?


3.

On the left side of the tiddler I do see the* tiddler tags.* Can I *delete* 
this option to show those tags on the right side? 


*Any hints from your side where so amazing!  I would realy appreciate 
that! *


*And I do find your  CL'EVERNOTE' theme so so amazing, too! Do I find that 
online? *



*Thanks so much again!!!Best wishes! *

*Susu *

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[tw] Re: changing borders in specific cells

2017-09-08 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi,

Have a look at https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Formatting%20Table%20Cells

Cheers,

Ton

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Re: [tw] Beaker and TiddlyMap - possible?

2017-09-08 Thread Xavier Cazin
Hello,

I cannot help farther than this but I experienced the same issue (for
another plugin) with TW 5.1.14 running in NodeJS mode. Is this your case?

As a not-so-quick workaround, I put the plugin manually in the plugin
directory (and added an appropriate plugin.info).

Best
Xavier.


Le 8 sept. 2017 2:16 AM, "Sam Eli"  a écrit :

> Hello all,
>
> I'm running TiddlyWiki on Beaker Browser, and I'd like to install
> TiddlyMap. I followed the standalone instructions
>  to add the necessary plugins. It
> looked like it was working at first - I was prompted to upload the files,
> then to save and reload. But the plugins never appeared in the plugin
> directory, nor did the Map tab appear in the sidebar.
>
> Before I go any farther, could anyone familiar with Beaker and TW confirm
> whether it should be possible to install TiddlyMap? (Are there issues with
> installing TW plugins on Beaker which might be getting in the way?)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sam
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

2017-09-08 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Mark

Very impressive!
>

Thank you!

It appears that the button for the custom filter has disappeared.
>

You are right. I will try to reactivate it.

Also appears (haven't tested in detail) that if the tab for the page isn't
> opened when a timer triggers, that it won't open when you return to the
> tab.
>

In fact there is no timer running in the background. Reminders and alerts
apear when TW re-renders the page, so you have to be active – e.g. switch a
tab, use the search field or interact with the wiki in any other way. So TW
usage is the trigger.

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