[tw] Re: Thousands seperator with plugin "letfilter" (let:sum)

2017-12-20 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Marcus,

While it may still have its use, http://let.tiddlyspot.com has been 
practically abandoned in its beta state ever since its inception.

While I could possibly extend it, if you keep pushing hard,
I do recommend I recommend you focus on alternatives, such as:

   - https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
   - http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#eval

However, I didn't actually look into whether or how either of those
provides a way to implement your desired separators right now. ;-)

I would also think you may actually want a new filter for that, e.g.

[[10]thousands[.]]

best -tb

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[tw] Re: Thousands seperator with plugin "letfilter" (let:sum)

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Marcus,

You are right, RPN cannot do that, you would have to calculate first, save the 
result in a variable or field and dislay it with RPN from there. 

All the best,
Thomas 

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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread Evan Balster
Hey, Tony —

I'm aware of the ordinary "de-duplication" behavior.  In this case, it was 
happening even with filter operators that would normally allow duplication, 
like "get".  This was because of a poorly-implemented optimization I'd 
written to reduce compilation overhead during filter processing.  Behavior 
is now consistent with typical filter operations.

The unusual behavior of TiddlyWiki's "get" operator is pretty important if 
you're doing something like summing up a bunch of "quantity" fields where 
many hold values like 1 or 2.

On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:17:40 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Evan,
>
> What you considered a Bug is a feature, because Titles are unique in 
> TiddlyWiki so if you have two of the same name appear such as in when 
> Tagged A, or B Or A and B we want the list of titles to be "de-duplicated", 
> Of course when you use filters from non title sources we do not want this 
> occurring. As you found.
>
> How did you address this? (details not necessary), I presume its only in 
> formulae and not when you are filtering titles?
>
> Best wishes
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 14:05:37 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> *Formulas version 0.1.5*:  
>> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>> GitHub & issue tracking:  
>> https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>>
>>- Duplicate values in filters are now handled correctly.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:04:57 UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>>>
>>> *General warning*:  There is a bug in filter processing that prevents 
>>> filters in formulas from returning duplicate values.  This is likely to 
>>> cause trouble with formulas like sum([tag[Expense]get[value]]) if two 
>>> Expenses have the same value.
>>>
>>> This bug appears to have existed since the first release.
>>>
>>> I've got an incentive to fix this one quickly, so I might be patching 
>>> this tonight.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:53:59 UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:

 Hey, TonyM —

 Are you formatting a lot of dates using the year/month/day functions?  
 If so, you'll probably have better luck with the text conversion function 
 T() and setting a dateFormat.  See the documentation for the FormulaWidget 
 for more information on date format strings (which use the same rules as 
 in 
 TiddlyWiki's settings).

 On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:31:53 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Evan,
>
> Once again for you great work. I have started playing with the date 
> related functions and finding it a little complex using Make a date 
> from a TiddlyWiki timestamp and return.
>
> Is there any way to make this more direct or can you suggest a pattern 
> to follow if all my dates are TiddlyWiki timestamps?
>
> PS I have many dates in one tiddler so it get unwieldy.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 11:31:49 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> *Formulas version 0.1.4*:  
>> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>> GitHub & issue tracking:  
>> https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>>
>>- Add text conversion functions:
>>   - t, value, textjoin
>>- Add text utility functions:
>>   - len, exact, mid, substitute, split, trim
>>- Add regular expression functions:
>>   - regexreplace, regexmatch, regexextract, regexextract1.
>>- Add julian day / date conversion functions:
>>   - julian, to_julian
>>- Fix off-by-one error in month function
>>- Fix error in if function, disable if function pending support 
>>for more powerful function construction
>>- Fix errors in count and counta functions.
>>- Code cleanup
>>
>> New features are documented in the wiki.
>>
>> The strings and regex work were driven by my own needs with a data 
>> archiving project.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 10:18:20 UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Evan
>>>
>>> Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
>>> understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>> Evan Balster wrote:

 Released version 0.1.2:  
 http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
 ...
 * Added badger inoculation simulator 
  
 for @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)

>>>

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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread TonyM
Evan,

What you considered a Bug is a feature, because Titles are unique in 
TiddlyWiki so if you have two of the same name appear such as in when 
Tagged A, or B Or A and B we want the list of titles to be "de-duplicated", 
Of course when you use filters from non title sources we do not want this 
occurring. As you found.

How did you address this? (details not necessary), I presume its only in 
formulae and not when you are filtering titles?

Best wishes
Tony

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 14:05:37 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> *Formulas version 0.1.5*:  
> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
> GitHub & issue tracking:  https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>
>- Duplicate values in filters are now handled correctly.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:04:57 UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> *General warning*:  There is a bug in filter processing that prevents 
>> filters in formulas from returning duplicate values.  This is likely to 
>> cause trouble with formulas like sum([tag[Expense]get[value]]) if two 
>> Expenses have the same value.
>>
>> This bug appears to have existed since the first release.
>>
>> I've got an incentive to fix this one quickly, so I might be patching 
>> this tonight.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:53:59 UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, TonyM —
>>>
>>> Are you formatting a lot of dates using the year/month/day functions?  
>>> If so, you'll probably have better luck with the text conversion function 
>>> T() and setting a dateFormat.  See the documentation for the FormulaWidget 
>>> for more information on date format strings (which use the same rules as in 
>>> TiddlyWiki's settings).
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:31:53 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:

 Evan,

 Once again for you great work. I have started playing with the date 
 related functions and finding it a little complex using Make a date 
 from a TiddlyWiki timestamp and return.

 Is there any way to make this more direct or can you suggest a pattern 
 to follow if all my dates are TiddlyWiki timestamps?

 PS I have many dates in one tiddler so it get unwieldy.

 Thanks in advance
 Tony


 On Thursday, 21 December 2017 11:31:49 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> *Formulas version 0.1.4*:  
> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
> GitHub & issue tracking:  
> https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>
>- Add text conversion functions:
>   - t, value, textjoin
>- Add text utility functions:
>   - len, exact, mid, substitute, split, trim
>- Add regular expression functions:
>   - regexreplace, regexmatch, regexextract, regexextract1.
>- Add julian day / date conversion functions:
>   - julian, to_julian
>- Fix off-by-one error in month function
>- Fix error in if function, disable if function pending support 
>for more powerful function construction
>- Fix errors in count and counta functions.
>- Code cleanup
>
> New features are documented in the wiki.
>
> The strings and regex work were driven by my own needs with a data 
> archiving project.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 10:18:20 UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Dear Evan
>>
>> Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
>> understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>> Evan Balster wrote:
>>>
>>> Released version 0.1.2:  
>>> http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>>> ...
>>> * Added badger inoculation simulator 
>>>  
>>> for @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread Evan Balster
*Formulas version 0.1.5*:  https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
GitHub & issue tracking:  https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula

   - Duplicate values in filters are now handled correctly.


On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:04:57 UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> *General warning*:  There is a bug in filter processing that prevents 
> filters in formulas from returning duplicate values.  This is likely to 
> cause trouble with formulas like sum([tag[Expense]get[value]]) if two 
> Expenses have the same value.
>
> This bug appears to have existed since the first release.
>
> I've got an incentive to fix this one quickly, so I might be patching this 
> tonight.
>
> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:53:59 UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> Hey, TonyM —
>>
>> Are you formatting a lot of dates using the year/month/day functions?  If 
>> so, you'll probably have better luck with the text conversion function T() 
>> and setting a dateFormat.  See the documentation for the FormulaWidget for 
>> more information on date format strings (which use the same rules as in 
>> TiddlyWiki's settings).
>>
>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:31:53 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Evan,
>>>
>>> Once again for you great work. I have started playing with the date 
>>> related functions and finding it a little complex using Make a date 
>>> from a TiddlyWiki timestamp and return.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to make this more direct or can you suggest a pattern 
>>> to follow if all my dates are TiddlyWiki timestamps?
>>>
>>> PS I have many dates in one tiddler so it get unwieldy.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 11:31:49 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:

 *Formulas version 0.1.4*:  
 https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
 GitHub & issue tracking:  
 https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula

- Add text conversion functions:
   - t, value, textjoin
- Add text utility functions:
   - len, exact, mid, substitute, split, trim
- Add regular expression functions:
   - regexreplace, regexmatch, regexextract, regexextract1.
- Add julian day / date conversion functions:
   - julian, to_julian
- Fix off-by-one error in month function
- Fix error in if function, disable if function pending support for 
more powerful function construction
- Fix errors in count and counta functions.
- Code cleanup

 New features are documented in the wiki.

 The strings and regex work were driven by my own needs with a data 
 archiving project.


 On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 10:18:20 UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Dear Evan
>
> Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
> understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> Released version 0.1.2:  
>> http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>> ...
>> * Added badger inoculation simulator 
>>  
>> for @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)
>>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Roadmap for TiddlyDesktop

2017-12-20 Thread Raymond McDowell
Hi Jeremy, 

I would like to echo dg's gratitude. I am actually thinking of moving on 
from TW, but TiddlyDesktop's ease of install and ease of use, even with its 
limitations, has me hesitating. 

So, whatever happens with TiddlyDesktop, please accept my thanks for 
developiing something un non-techies can use out of the box.

regards,

Ray


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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread Evan Balster
*General warning*:  There is a bug in filter processing that prevents 
filters in formulas from returning duplicate values.  This is likely to 
cause trouble with formulas like sum([tag[Expense]get[value]]) if two 
Expenses have the same value.

This bug appears to have existed since the first release.

I've got an incentive to fix this one quickly, so I might be patching this 
tonight.

On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:53:59 UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> Hey, TonyM —
>
> Are you formatting a lot of dates using the year/month/day functions?  If 
> so, you'll probably have better luck with the text conversion function T() 
> and setting a dateFormat.  See the documentation for the FormulaWidget for 
> more information on date format strings (which use the same rules as in 
> TiddlyWiki's settings).
>
> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:31:53 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Evan,
>>
>> Once again for you great work. I have started playing with the date 
>> related functions and finding it a little complex using Make a date from 
>> a TiddlyWiki timestamp and return.
>>
>> Is there any way to make this more direct or can you suggest a pattern to 
>> follow if all my dates are TiddlyWiki timestamps?
>>
>> PS I have many dates in one tiddler so it get unwieldy.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 11:31:49 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>>>
>>> *Formulas version 0.1.4*:  
>>> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>>> GitHub & issue tracking:  
>>> https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>>>
>>>- Add text conversion functions:
>>>   - t, value, textjoin
>>>- Add text utility functions:
>>>   - len, exact, mid, substitute, split, trim
>>>- Add regular expression functions:
>>>   - regexreplace, regexmatch, regexextract, regexextract1.
>>>- Add julian day / date conversion functions:
>>>   - julian, to_julian
>>>- Fix off-by-one error in month function
>>>- Fix error in if function, disable if function pending support for 
>>>more powerful function construction
>>>- Fix errors in count and counta functions.
>>>- Code cleanup
>>>
>>> New features are documented in the wiki.
>>>
>>> The strings and regex work were driven by my own needs with a data 
>>> archiving project.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 10:18:20 UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 Dear Evan

 Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
 understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!

 Best wishes
 Josiah

 Evan Balster wrote:
>
> Released version 0.1.2:  
> http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
> ...
> * Added badger inoculation simulator 
>  
> for @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)
>


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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread Evan Balster
Hey, TonyM —

Are you formatting a lot of dates using the year/month/day functions?  If 
so, you'll probably have better luck with the text conversion function T() 
and setting a dateFormat.  See the documentation for the FormulaWidget for 
more information on date format strings (which use the same rules as in 
TiddlyWiki's settings).

On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:31:53 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Evan,
>
> Once again for you great work. I have started playing with the date 
> related functions and finding it a little complex using Make a date from 
> a TiddlyWiki timestamp and return.
>
> Is there any way to make this more direct or can you suggest a pattern to 
> follow if all my dates are TiddlyWiki timestamps?
>
> PS I have many dates in one tiddler so it get unwieldy.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 11:31:49 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> *Formulas version 0.1.4*:  
>> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>> GitHub & issue tracking:  
>> https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>>
>>- Add text conversion functions:
>>   - t, value, textjoin
>>- Add text utility functions:
>>   - len, exact, mid, substitute, split, trim
>>- Add regular expression functions:
>>   - regexreplace, regexmatch, regexextract, regexextract1.
>>- Add julian day / date conversion functions:
>>   - julian, to_julian
>>- Fix off-by-one error in month function
>>- Fix error in if function, disable if function pending support for 
>>more powerful function construction
>>- Fix errors in count and counta functions.
>>- Code cleanup
>>
>> New features are documented in the wiki.
>>
>> The strings and regex work were driven by my own needs with a data 
>> archiving project.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 10:18:20 UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Evan
>>>
>>> Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
>>> understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>> Evan Balster wrote:

 Released version 0.1.2:  
 http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
 ...
 * Added badger inoculation simulator 
  
 for @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)

>>>

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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

2017-12-20 Thread Birthe C
in Firefox 57.2 on Windows 7 on the link to Mats tablinks I can disable the 
plugin or toggle the tab links not to show.  Is that what you mean?


Birthe

Den torsdag den 21. december 2017 kl. 02.36.42 UTC+1 skrev pedruchini:
>
> Hi everyone.
> I'm using the Firefox version of Tablinks. It works perfectly except that 
> I cannot deactivate the plugin in the control panel. This happens on my 
> local TW, but also in Mat's http://tablinks-ff.tiddlyspot.com/#On%2FOff when 
> using Firefox. I don't have this problem with the Chrome version. Can Mat 
> or somebody else help me. 
> Thanks in advance.
> Pedro
>

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[tw] I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

2017-12-20 Thread pedruchini
Hi everyone.
I'm using the Firefox version of Tablinks. It works perfectly except that I 
cannot deactivate the plugin in the control panel. This happens on my local 
TW, but also in Mat's http://tablinks-ff.tiddlyspot.com/#On%2FOff when 
using Firefox. I don't have this problem with the Chrome version. Can Mat 
or somebody else help me. 
Thanks in advance.
Pedro

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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread TonyM
Evan,

Once again for you great work. I have started playing with the date related 
functions and finding it a little complex using Make a date from a 
TiddlyWiki timestamp and return.

Is there any way to make this more direct or can you suggest a pattern to 
follow if all my dates are TiddlyWiki timestamps?

Thanks in advance
Tony


On Thursday, 21 December 2017 11:31:49 UTC+11, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> *Formulas version 0.1.4*:  
> https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
> GitHub & issue tracking:  https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula
>
>- Add text conversion functions:
>   - t, value, textjoin
>- Add text utility functions:
>   - len, exact, mid, substitute, split, trim
>- Add regular expression functions:
>   - regexreplace, regexmatch, regexextract, regexextract1.
>- Add julian day / date conversion functions:
>   - julian, to_julian
>- Fix off-by-one error in month function
>- Fix error in if function, disable if function pending support for 
>more powerful function construction
>- Fix errors in count and counta functions.
>- Code cleanup
>
> New features are documented in the wiki.
>
> The strings and regex work were driven by my own needs with a data 
> archiving project.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 10:18:20 UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Dear Evan
>>
>> Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
>> understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>> Evan Balster wrote:
>>>
>>> Released version 0.1.2:  http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>>> ...
>>> * Added badger inoculation simulator 
>>>  
>>> for @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread Evan Balster
*Formulas version 0.1.4*:  https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
GitHub & issue tracking:  https://github.com/EvanBalster/TiddlyWikiFormula

   - Add text conversion functions:
  - t, value, textjoin
   - Add text utility functions:
  - len, exact, mid, substitute, split, trim
   - Add regular expression functions:
  - regexreplace, regexmatch, regexextract, regexextract1.
   - Add julian day / date conversion functions:
  - julian, to_julian
   - Fix off-by-one error in month function
   - Fix error in if function, disable if function pending support for more 
   powerful function construction
   - Fix errors in count and counta functions.
   - Code cleanup

New features are documented in the wiki.

The strings and regex work were driven by my own needs with a data 
archiving project.


On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 10:18:20 UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Dear Evan
>
> Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
> understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> Released version 0.1.2:  http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
>> ...
>> * Added badger inoculation simulator 
>>  
>> for @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Open Collective

2017-12-20 Thread TonyM
Richard,

I was actually contemplating something like this myself, with the ability 
to offer prizes, make bids for solutions, submit donations to the author 
etc...

May still be on the cards.

Tony

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 10:45:10 UTC+11, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I just came across this site: https://opencollective.com/opensource/apply
>
> (via this hacker news thread: 
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15970412)
>
> It gives open source projects a way to transparently organise finances. 
> There is a small collective pool of money available to qualifying projects. 
> Tiddlywiki has the necessary 100+ stars on Github to join, so I thought it 
> worth bringing to your attention.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>

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[tw] Re: What's the xmastiddle bringing?

2017-12-20 Thread TonyM
Let me share an unsolicited Christmas gift I received yesterday, Some of 
you my be very surprised.

I am not so sure who gave it to me, was in HP or Microsoft on my Windows 10 
laptop?

I needed to upgrade my laptop a few months ago, I was inclined to get a 
touch screen model, but balked at the price, and most of the time I use it 
as a desktop replacement with two additional large screens.

I took the cheaper option *without *the touch screen but 16GB RAM, 256 SSD, 
I have being very happy with this laptop. Of note is if you spend more you 
can get a HDD/SSD combination model. However I discovered in the cheaper 
model I got there is a HDD slot I can move a 1TB SSD I have into, in time 
that is my only upgrade option remaining. 

Yesterday I had some urgent work and was delayed 40 minutes with various 
windows updates, which was seriously annoying.

Once all the updates completed I received my unexpected Christmas Gift, it 
was unwrapped, but I only discovered it accidentally.

Scroll down to see what the Christmas Gift was






































*I got a touch screen on my existing laptop.*

No, I am not joking, I reviewed the computer specifications to check, this 
laptop did not come with a touch screen. But there it is, it is now a touch 
screen.

For the nostalgic amongst you, it is like an update reactivated the 
co-processor in my cheaper CPU. In the days where intel nobbled the 
co-processor unless you payed more.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, 18 December 2017 06:23:34 UTC+11, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> As we approach the most tiddlery of times I wondered what would be filling 
> your tiddlerstocking hanging over your nice regex fire? Don't forget to 
> leave out some nice scotch for Jeremy. 

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[tw] Open Collective

2017-12-20 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
Hello all.

I just came across this site: https://opencollective.com/opensource/apply

(via this hacker news thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15970412)

It gives open source projects a way to transparently organise finances. 
There is a small collective pool of money available to qualifying projects. 
Tiddlywiki has the necessary 100+ stars on Github to join, so I thought it 
worth bringing to your attention.

Regards,
Richard

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread PMario
On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 12:19:03 AM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Windows 7 Firefox 57.2 and 0.3.4 file-backups add-on works now. 
>
You fixed it faster than I could restart Firefox ;-). Thank you.
>

I didn't expect it, to be released, by mozilla, so fast either. It started 
with position 9/9 in the waiting queue. Next time I had a look it was 9/10 
... 
So I created the post with V 0.3.1. ... After posting the message, it was 
released :) .. That's nice. 

So it seems to be possible, to push / release web-extension fixes much 
faster now.

-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: Bricks Demo – CSS Construction Set + Soft Redesign)

2017-12-20 Thread TonyM
Thomas,

Once again I am impressed with your tiddlywiki contributions. Bricks looks 
like another that will be in my toolbox. I will review more deeply and 
respond if I can support your effort.

My use of stylesheets has only recently reached the level I need such 
tools, so it has come at the right time.

I want to point out your quote "Hey, I made a new design for quotes – get 
it from the bricks library.

This reusable component approach is exactly what I am trying to do as well 
with a desire to build an ecosystem of components (above plugins, below 
editions) that have practical uses for both end users and experts alike.
So my feed back is most likely to be supporting this component method.

Thanks so much for your contributions in 2017 and I look forward to what 
2018 offers.
Enjoy the festive season

Tony


On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:13:58 UTC+11, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Dear members of the TW community,
>
> Over the last months you haven’t heard much from my side. And possibly I 
> will remain rather quiet for the weeks to come. The TW hours I could find 
> went mostly into this fancy project that has reached demo status now. I 
> release this as is, without warranties and with minimal documentation. I 
> would be very happy if some of you could find some time over the coming 
> weeks to try, test, report bugs and submit feedback of any kind.
>
> *Bricks*  is a set of utilities for 
> webdesigners using cascading stylesheets (CSS). It covers many aspects of 
> TiddlyWiki 5 (TW) and thus is especially useful if you wish to use your 
> skills for TW design. 
>
>
> Bricks Studio Equipment
>
> Bricks offers *a collection of stylesheets* for TiddlyWiki 5 introducing 
> a refreshingly cool but still familiar touch. Old and new styles are 
> rebased on definitions from tachyons.io wherever possible. Additional 
> tools:
>
>- Stylesheet Manager 
> – a 
>searchable list of stylesheets where you quickly create, edit, activate 
> and 
>deactivate stylesheet tiddlers. 
>   - Listreveal Plugin – a helper that makes listed tiddlers 
>   accessible and editable directly in the list.
>   *Important:* Version 0.3.1 in use here might not be backwards 
>   compatible.
>- Stylesheet Generator – speed up your wikis and compile your 
>collection of stylesheets into a static document, stripped from comments 
>and most line breaks. 
>
>
> Vanilla Ice Cream – a Soft Design Update
>
> The collection of style-related tiddlers delivered with *Bricks* has 
> revolutionary things under the hood:
>
>- clearly titled CSS tiddlers you can combine as you like – use only 
>as much code as necessary for your solution
>- mobile first design philosophy
>- variables for most things based on values from tachyons.io
>
> If this sounds interesting to you, visit 
> https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html for more info and let me know what 
> you think.
>
> Have a good time, explore and build – all the best for the days to come 
> and a happy 2018!
>
> Many thanks and kind regards,
> Thomas
>

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread Birthe C
Windows 7 Firefox 57.2 and 0.3.4 file-backups add-on works now.
You fixed it faster than I could restart Firefox ;-). Thank you.

Birthe

Den onsdag den 20. december 2017 kl. 23.35.20 UTC+1 skrev PMario:
>
> Hi folks, 
>
> Me again :) 
>
> ... It seems to be activated 
> . .. Please 
> test again. ... and ... 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw] Re: Possible bug: Importing tiddlers with existing names causes unexpected data loss

2017-12-20 Thread Diego Mesa
Thanks for that Mario - I will definitely be using that option. 

I respect everyone's opinion, I'd just like to say again that I strongly 
object to any and all methods of unwarned/unplanned data loss. 

Best,
Diego

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 5:07:03 PM UTC-6, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 11:40:32 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I just now realized that importing does not warn about overwriting 
>> existing tiddlers with the same name! I feel this is a bug, but am not sure 
>> if this is the desired behavior. If it is, I will open an issue on 
>> GitHub asking for a warning to be shown. 
>>
>
> The "bundler-plugin" has a configuration option for the import mechanism. 
> It extends the core with:
>
> Enable Overwrite Check 
> ,
>  
> that lets you define the import behaviour. 
>
> So for me this is plugin territory.
>
> have fun!
> mario  
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Roadmap for TiddlyDesktop

2017-12-20 Thread TonyM
Jed,

That sound great. Given this thread would that include working on 
TiddlyDesktop when Jeremy completes the web serving capabilities? Of course 
most will be aware that tiddlydesktop and tiddlyserver are using "run time" 
nodejs.

The reason I ask is when I use Wikis I want to share or distribute to 
others, I want to explain what they can do "out of the box", to advise 
default saver, advanced savers, tiddly-desktop, serving and a multi user 
plugin would provide a path to all of the major "features" on a single 
adoption path (at least on windows).

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 05:56:28 UTC+11, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The new things I am doing with the MulitUser plugin may be useful here. It 
> is a plugin and it adds the ability to server multiple wikis and have 
> multiple people editing the wikis. And it is configurable from within the 
> wiki itself. I think that once I have polished this a bit more it may help 
> solve some of the problems.
>

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[tw] Re: Possible bug: Importing tiddlers with existing names causes unexpected data loss

2017-12-20 Thread PMario
On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 11:40:32 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I just now realized that importing does not warn about overwriting 
> existing tiddlers with the same name! I feel this is a bug, but am not sure 
> if this is the desired behavior. If it is, I will open an issue on 
> GitHub asking for a warning to be shown. 
>

The "bundler-plugin" has a configuration option for the import mechanism. 
It extends the core with:

Enable Overwrite Check 
,
 
that lets you define the import behaviour. 

So for me this is plugin territory.

have fun!
mario  

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[tw] Re: Thousands seperator with plugin "letfilter" (let:sum)

2017-12-20 Thread Marcus

Hi Thomas,

thank you.

But how can I sum the values from many tiddlers like:  <$list 
filter="[let:SUM test[]]">  with RPN ?

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 2:59:07 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Mario, Thomas,
>
> I can confirm the behaviour Thomas mentiones.
>
> Yesterday I created a new Firefox profile (I had 'invisible' radio 
> buttons) and got problems with saving after installing the (new 0.3.3) 
> file-backups add-on: saving worked (you could see the flickering download 
> arrow), but the save button stayed red.
>

This should be fixed with 0.3.4 now. 
 

> But one TW did not save at all with the following error in the console:
>
> saver-handler: Saving wiki with method autosave through saver tiddlyfox $:
> /core/modules/utils/logger.js:33:10
> save-wiki error: 
> Error
> columnNumber: 1
> fileName: "undefined"
> lineNumber: 0
> message: "filename must not contain back-references (..)"
> stack: ""
> __proto__: Object { … }
>
>
>
I'm not sure about this problem atm. ... 

This message: message: "filename must not contain back-references (..)"

shouldn't be possible with 0.3.x ... So did it pop up as you used 0.2.x ??

-m

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread PMario
Hi folks, 

Me again :) 

... It seems to be activated 
. .. Please test 
again. ... and ... 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: change bullet list

2017-12-20 Thread tobaisch

Yeees! Exactly, i was looking for that.
Especially the style types ul ul, ol ul with this double spelling I've 
never heard of it.
It works perfect anyway.
Thanks Joshua
Regards
Tom

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 10:50:25 PM UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> I switched back to 0.3.1 and – after a browser restart – everything seems 
> to work again. Firefox Developer for Mac is on 58.0b12 (64-Bit) at the 
> moment. 
>
> Updating seems to happen automatically if you leave the extension setting 
> on "Standard". I switched to "Off" now ("Aus" in German).
>

Update is on the way! ... But it needs to be reviewed. ... I'll post an 
update, when it is active. 

V0.3.3 doesn't loose data, it just didn't update the tw "dirty" handling. 

For now, Version 0.3.1 should be used: 
https://github.com/pmario/file-backups/releases/tag/V0.3.1  and automatic 
plugin update set to off. 

Thank you, for your patience!

mario

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[tw] Re: What's the xmastiddle bringing?

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Ho, ho, h ...

I delivered my christmas present today. It is something you can play with: 
A collection of bricks for twizzards and twiches who have everything else. 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/qZyhuW3_UyQ/huWHUpCmAAAJ

Play with CSS, make something beautiful and send pictures of it 1)

All the best,
Santa Swiss

1) Sending pictures is a confirmation of the following: You are the owner 
of all intellectual properties and by sending or uploading your image you 
consent to my personal and commercial use of your pictures. TL;DR I get all 
the rights to do everything I want with your picture. You get nothing. As 
usual.
;–)

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[tw] Re: change bullet list

2017-12-20 Thread Joshua Fontany
This can be accomplished with a CSS Stylesheet tiddler.

Create a tiddler and name it anything you want.

Tag it with "$:/tags/Stylesheet". Paste the following into the text field 
and save it.

ul ul, ol ul { list-style-type: none; }
ul ul li, ol ul li { font-size: smaller; }

This will affect all nested lists, so if you go to a 3rd "sub" level, it 
will have an even smaller font size than the 2nd sub-level (and no 
circle/dot).

If this is unwanted, you can define similar "child of" CSS selectors to set 
the behavior of sub-lists 3 levels or below.

Best,
Joshua Fontany 

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 6:39:05 AM UTC-8, tobaisch wrote:
>
> Hello,
> How can i change a bit the unsorted standard list, which one generates 
> with a "*" or  a "**".
> I would especially like the second sublist in a smaller font and without a 
> circle at the beginning.
> THX
> Regards
> Tom
>

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Elmiger
I switched back to 0.3.1 and – after a browser restart – everything seems 
to work again. Firefox Developer for Mac is on 58.0b12 (64-Bit) at the 
moment. 

Updating seems to happen automatically if you leave the extension setting 
on "Standard". I switched to "Off" now ("Aus" in German).

Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2017 22:02:53 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:
>
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 2:59:07 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:
>>
>> Checking the add-ons revealed version 0.3.3. Can it be that it was 
>> updated by Firefox syncing?
>>
>
> May be yes. ... I'll check it :(
>

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 2:59:07 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Checking the add-ons revealed version 0.3.3. Can it be that it was updated 
> by Firefox syncing?
>

May be yes. ... I'll check it :(

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 1:34:54 PM UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote:

> Sounds like good news, but the (previous) version stopped working for me 
> yesterday at home and today at the office, both in FF 57 Win and in FF 
> Developer 58 on the Mac :(
>

Seems to be odd. ... I'm didn't see anything in the plugin description 
area, that says, that creating a mozilla store version, does invalidate 
self signed versions.. 

Did you try to re-install 0.3.1 from github? 
https://github.com/pmario/file-backups/releases/tag/V0.3.1
 

> After an update to the new version on Windows the downloads happen again, 
> but without TW noticing the save process (TW 5.1.14) – the download icon 
> stays red and an alert pops up when I close TW after saving.
>

I did a fresh install from mozilla store. It seems I can reproduce the 
issue. ... The funny thing is, I didn't change anything in the save 
process... 0.3.3. just added some changes, where the mozilla sign process 
responded with warnings. ... Will have a close look

 

> Is there a special upgrade procedure? Can there be a connection between 
> you/FF publishing a new version and the old version stopping to work?
>

I did just install 0.3.1 from github, while 0.3.3 was installed from the 
store. ... Worked for me. 


Sorry for the inconveniencies !

-mario

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[tw] Re: csv_unpack plugin: Import CSV rows as tiddlers/fields

2017-12-20 Thread stefct4
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:04:09 PM UTC+1, Evan Balster wrote:
>
>
> Myself, I'm importing two years' worth of work logs so that I can 
> visualize and datamine them for my end-of-year self-review.  I've been 
> envious of my colleague Devine and his Horaire 
>  for some time now...
>

Maybe of interest for some readers here: With your plugin, it's also 
straightforward to import the "tweets.csv" file from the official Twitter 
archive, which contains all the tweets (and a lot of metadata) from one's 
personal account. Still don't know what to do with this in TiddlyWiki, but 
there is certainly potential...

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[tw] [TW5] Presenting: Bricks Demo – CSS Construction Set + Soft Redesign)

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Dear members of the TW community,

Over the last months you haven’t heard much from my side. And possibly I 
will remain rather quiet for the weeks to come. The TW hours I could find 
went mostly into this fancy project that has reached demo status now. I 
release this as is, without warranties and with minimal documentation. I 
would be very happy if some of you could find some time over the coming 
weeks to try, test, report bugs and submit feedback of any kind.

*Bricks*  is a set of utilities for 
webdesigners using cascading stylesheets (CSS). It covers many aspects of 
TiddlyWiki 5 (TW) and thus is especially useful if you wish to use your 
skills for TW design. 


Bricks Studio Equipment

Bricks offers *a collection of stylesheets* for TiddlyWiki 5 introducing a 
refreshingly cool but still familiar touch. Old and new styles are rebased 
on definitions from tachyons.io wherever possible. Additional tools:

   - Stylesheet Manager 
    – a 
   searchable list of stylesheets where you quickly create, edit, activate and 
   deactivate stylesheet tiddlers. 
  - Listreveal Plugin – a helper that makes listed tiddlers accessible 
  and editable directly in the list.
  *Important:* Version 0.3.1 in use here might not be backwards 
  compatible.
   - Stylesheet Generator – speed up your wikis and compile your collection 
   of stylesheets into a static document, stripped from comments and most line 
   breaks. 


Vanilla Ice Cream – a Soft Design Update

The collection of style-related tiddlers delivered with *Bricks* has 
revolutionary things under the hood:

   - clearly titled CSS tiddlers you can combine as you like – use only as 
   much code as necessary for your solution
   - mobile first design philosophy
   - variables for most things based on values from tachyons.io

If this sounds interesting to you, visit 
https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html for more info and let me know what you 
think.

Have a good time, explore and build – all the best for the days to come and 
a happy 2018!

Many thanks and kind regards,
Thomas

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[tw] Re: csv_unpack plugin: Import CSV rows as tiddlers/fields

2017-12-20 Thread Evan Balster
Excel might be exporting its CSV in UTF-16 encoding?  I could stand to add 
some mechanism to display Papa Parse's errors (and I'm asking about this in 
TiddlyWikiDev).

Myself, I'm importing two years' worth of work logs so that I can visualize 
and datamine them for my end-of-year self-review.  I've been envious of my 
colleague Devine and his Horaire  for some 
time now...


On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 13:28:13 UTC-6, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 7:21:59 PM UTC+1, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>>
>> I use the "Papa Parse" library, which has a demo you can test with here:  
>> http://papaparse.com/demo
>>
>
> Thank you! This example works. Amazingly, I was able to import a 
> considerable number of CSV files generated by LibreOffice on my Linux PC, 
> too. A very nifty plugin, indeed!
>
> However, all attempts at importing CSV files created by Excel on MS 
> Windows failed. Maybe something to do with Excel itself, and/or the charset 
> (German locale)? If I find an explanation, I will report back.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stef
>
>   
>

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread BJ

 Hi Mark,

unfortunately l don't have windows 10, so cannot test. (I am not seeing a 
problem with xubuntu 14.04)

Do you see anything in the browser console (or the web console)? - you can 
open the browser console via the 'web developer' menu, which is got to thru 
the 'hamburger icon'


On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 8:02:48 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Trying again with 0.8. 
>
> It works! But the red check mark doesn't go away and, if you try to close 
> the page it will warn you (incorrectly) that it hasn't been saved.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 10:50:22 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I take it back. I can save with BJ's save mechanism.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> It doesn't work for me either. I'm using the older 3.3 version from 12/8 
>>> (at least that is what the date says). I haven't let FF update. Sometimes 
>>> it tries to default save, and other times it ignores requests to save.
>>>
>>> In other words, nothing changed -- but everything stopped. As if some 
>>> timer were tripped.
>>>
>>> I switched to BJ's save mechanism. But now (at least with the custom 
>>> path) it doesn't see the junctions as being *below* downloads, and it also 
>>> wants to use the default mechanism, but with about twice as many dialogs to 
>>> dismiss.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if a windows update changed junction/link behavior.
>>>
>>> So, is everyone having problems on Windows, or is it multiple systems?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 8:35:42 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote:

 Hi Folks, 

 I'm happy to announce, that:

 *AddOn: file-backups* 
  "TiddlyWiki 
 File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn!

 It works for *TiddlyWiki 5* and *TiddlyWikiClassic*. 

 How it works: 
  - "One image is worth a 1000 words". So have a look at 1000+ images ;)
  - Watch the Video! 

 *If you like it: Support it  :) *

 Features: 
  - Supports TiddlyWiki 5
  - Supports TiddlyWiki Classic
  - Detects, if a file TW is opened in 2 tabs OR 2 windows
- Shows a warning banner, that will be closed if clicked

  - Files changed from outside download directory, opens "Save As" dialog
  - Ubuntu version shows "Open in new tab banner" instead

  - Improved Workflow

  - The AddOn uses less permissions now.
 - browser tabs ... and
 - activeTabs ... To create the "backup / download" icon
 - local storage ... to save settings and backup-counter
 - downloads area ... to be able to do its work :)

 Learn More:
  - next post 
  
 :)

 have fun!
 mario

 *PS - If you like it: Support it  :) *

>>>

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Trying again with 0.8. 

It works! But the red check mark doesn't go away and, if you try to close 
the page it will warn you (incorrectly) that it hasn't been saved.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 10:50:22 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I take it back. I can save with BJ's save mechanism.
>
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't work for me either. I'm using the older 3.3 version from 12/8 
>> (at least that is what the date says). I haven't let FF update. Sometimes 
>> it tries to default save, and other times it ignores requests to save.
>>
>> In other words, nothing changed -- but everything stopped. As if some 
>> timer were tripped.
>>
>> I switched to BJ's save mechanism. But now (at least with the custom 
>> path) it doesn't see the junctions as being *below* downloads, and it also 
>> wants to use the default mechanism, but with about twice as many dialogs to 
>> dismiss.
>>
>> I'm wondering if a windows update changed junction/link behavior.
>>
>> So, is everyone having problems on Windows, or is it multiple systems?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mark
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 8:35:42 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks, 
>>>
>>> I'm happy to announce, that:
>>>
>>> *AddOn: file-backups* 
>>>  "TiddlyWiki 
>>> File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn!
>>>
>>> It works for *TiddlyWiki 5* and *TiddlyWikiClassic*. 
>>>
>>> How it works: 
>>>  - "One image is worth a 1000 words". So have a look at 1000+ images ;)
>>>  - Watch the Video! 
>>>
>>> *If you like it: Support it  :) *
>>>
>>> Features: 
>>>  - Supports TiddlyWiki 5
>>>  - Supports TiddlyWiki Classic
>>>  - Detects, if a file TW is opened in 2 tabs OR 2 windows
>>>- Shows a warning banner, that will be closed if clicked
>>>
>>>  - Files changed from outside download directory, opens "Save As" dialog
>>>  - Ubuntu version shows "Open in new tab banner" instead
>>>
>>>  - Improved Workflow
>>>
>>>  - The AddOn uses less permissions now.
>>> - browser tabs ... and
>>> - activeTabs ... To create the "backup / download" icon
>>> - local storage ... to save settings and backup-counter
>>> - downloads area ... to be able to do its work :)
>>>
>>> Learn More:
>>>  - next post 
>>>  :)
>>>
>>> have fun!
>>> mario
>>>
>>> *PS - If you like it: Support it  :) *
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Roadmap for TiddlyDesktop

2017-12-20 Thread Jed Carty
The new things I am doing with the MulitUser plugin may be useful here. It 
is a plugin and it adds the ability to server multiple wikis and have 
multiple people editing the wikis. And it is configurable from within the 
wiki itself. I think that once I have polished this a bit more it may help 
solve some of the problems.

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I take it back. I can save with BJ's save mechanism.

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It doesn't work for me either. I'm using the older 3.3 version from 12/8 
> (at least that is what the date says). I haven't let FF update. Sometimes 
> it tries to default save, and other times it ignores requests to save.
>
> In other words, nothing changed -- but everything stopped. As if some 
> timer were tripped.
>
> I switched to BJ's save mechanism. But now (at least with the custom path) 
> it doesn't see the junctions as being *below* downloads, and it also wants 
> to use the default mechanism, but with about twice as many dialogs to 
> dismiss.
>
> I'm wondering if a windows update changed junction/link behavior.
>
> So, is everyone having problems on Windows, or is it multiple systems?
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 8:35:42 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks, 
>>
>> I'm happy to announce, that:
>>
>> *AddOn: file-backups* 
>>  "TiddlyWiki 
>> File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn!
>>
>> It works for *TiddlyWiki 5* and *TiddlyWikiClassic*. 
>>
>> How it works: 
>>  - "One image is worth a 1000 words". So have a look at 1000+ images ;)
>>  - Watch the Video! 
>>
>> *If you like it: Support it  :) *
>>
>> Features: 
>>  - Supports TiddlyWiki 5
>>  - Supports TiddlyWiki Classic
>>  - Detects, if a file TW is opened in 2 tabs OR 2 windows
>>- Shows a warning banner, that will be closed if clicked
>>
>>  - Files changed from outside download directory, opens "Save As" dialog
>>  - Ubuntu version shows "Open in new tab banner" instead
>>
>>  - Improved Workflow
>>
>>  - The AddOn uses less permissions now.
>> - browser tabs ... and
>> - activeTabs ... To create the "backup / download" icon
>> - local storage ... to save settings and backup-counter
>> - downloads area ... to be able to do its work :)
>>
>> Learn More:
>>  - next post 
>>  :)
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>> *PS - If you like it: Support it  :) *
>>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Roadmap for TiddlyDesktop

2017-12-20 Thread dg
Jeremy, 

Just a quick thank you -- sorry for being off topic -- to let you know that 
this newbie is using TiddlyDesktop v0.9 and happily cutting my teeth on 
Toddy Wiki with it. Thank you for all your great work on these tools!

A grateful, happy newbie,
--
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On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 12:51:04 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Ed
>
> The problem with TiddlyDesktop is that it is trying to be a desktop 
> browser, and users have the very reasonable expectation that it will behave 
> like one. Sadly, the nw.js platform on which TiddlyDesktop is based only 
> provides the basic rendering of web pages and requires features like tabs, 
> find-on-page, print, spell checking, etc to be implemented manually. That 
> means that developing TiddlyDesktop feels like a pretty thankless task: 
> however much effort I put into reproducing standard browser features, it 
> will never be as good a browser as the market leaders.
>
> So, the direction I’d like to take it is to develop the web serving 
> capabilities: in that configuration, TiddlyDesktop would be responsible for 
> running the serverside of wikis, and you’d use your usual browser to 
> connect to it.
>
> It’s also worth mentioning TiddlyServer which also enhances the basic 
> Node.js configuration of TiddlyWiki. See tiddlywiki.com for details.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On 19 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Ed  wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> What are your ideas for the TiddlyDesktop in the (near) future if any?
>
> I ask this because I have a problem, more of an inconvenwance, while 
> working with TW5 in TiddlyDeskTop.
>
> When I do research about a project, I collect relevant links in a tiddler 
> for later reference and I like to use the framedlink macro to open such 
> a link inside the tiddler.
> Works brilliantly when website in question allows it. When not I have 
> to open that link in a browser.
>
> When I used FireFox before the FireFox Apocalypse, this was just  a
> matter of opening in a new tab, so the screen was uncluttered, only 
> the browser was there. 
>
> Now with TiddlyDesktop I have a TiddlyDesktop window open + FireFox
> to view said website. (And because of work in general there are some 
> more windows open.)
>
> Any chance that you could remedy this?
>
> Well I suppose you could make TiddlyDeskTop into a a sort of fuller-blown 
> browser, but that would be a major-major operation, a horrible task I 
> suppose.
> So I can live with it, but I am curious if you could do something and if 
> there 
> is any roadmap of sorts for the TiddlyDesktop.
>
> Thank very very much in advance!
> DoublePlus-Cheers, Ed 
>
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Re: [tw] Possible bug: Importing tiddlers with existing names causes unexpected data loss

2017-12-20 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Jeremy,

Thank you for your response. I am paranoid about things that cause someone 
to lose data without warning. I would suggest that the import wizard at 
least *warn users* of the collision! I think this (as is everything that 
causes unexpected data loss) is a high priority! 

Best,
Diego

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 12:02:35 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Diego
>
> Do you all think that this behavior is indeed a bug?
>
>
> The present behaviour is what was implemented originally; it could be 
> changed, but subject to backwards compatibility (in particular, the import 
> mechanism is reused by the upgrade process so we’d need to make sure that 
> that still works).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Best,
> Diego
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 6:01:14 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Sorry,
>>
>> My Mistake, I could not locate the option to select this, so I saved it. 
>> It comes with the Marios Tiddler Bundle Plugin
>>
>> see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/_Uqbg08Pjow
>>
>> and has the side effect of letting you choose to overwrite or create new 
>> with duplicate tiddler names even when using the import facility.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 10:13:19 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry Tony,
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm missing something, but is this just the code for the actual 
>>> checkbox not the mechanism? 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Diego
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 4:55:02 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:

 A Dump from my own notes=, using import, perhaps this will help.

 $:/config/wikilabs/enableOverwriteCheck = no vs Yes

 <$checkbox tiddler="$:/config/wikilabs/enableOverwriteCheck" 
 field="text" checked="yes" unchecked="no" default="no"> Enable Overwrite 
 Check

 By default, the import mechanism overwrites existing tiddlers. By 
 enabling this option, you can activate a mechanism, that creates a new 
 tiddler name. By default this option is off.

 Tony 

 On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 9:40:32 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I just now realized that importing does not warn about overwriting 
> existing tiddlers with the same name! I feel this is a bug, but am not 
> sure 
> if this is the desired behavior. If it is, I will open an issue on 
> GitHub asking for a warning to be shown. 
>
> *Steps to reproduce:*
>
>1. Go to https://tiddlywiki.com/
>2. Drag and drop the attached tiddler to import
>3. Accept import
>
>
> *Desired Outcome:*
>
>- The import tiddler warns you of the incoming tiddler with the 
>same name *and* leaves that conflicting incoming tiddler 
>unchecked, preventing accidental data loss. A user can still manually 
> check 
>it, acknowledging the warning. 
>
>
> *Actual Outcome:*
>
>- The import tiddler shows *no* indication of a collision/existing 
>tiddler. Upon accepting the import, the contents of the HelloThere 
> tiddler 
>are lost without warning. 
>
>
> I came across this while trying to import around 100 tiddlers into my 
> TW. These tiddlers were automatically generated using a modified bibtex 
> importer in another playground TW for some papers I am working with. I 
> realized after the fact, that I already had an entry in my actual TW for 
> a 
> paper, whose content I now lost.
>
>
> Note: The attached tiddler is just a title of "HelloThere" and the 
> content "modified":
>
> [
> {
> "created": "20171218222709327",
> "text": "modified",
> "title": "HelloThere",
> "tags": "",
> "modified": "20171218222716073"
> }
> ]
>
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[tw] Re: csv_unpack plugin: Import CSV rows as tiddlers/fields

2017-12-20 Thread Evan Balster
Hey, Stef —

*A first row specifying column names is required by this plugin*.

I use the "Papa Parse" library, which has a demo you can test with here:  
http://papaparse.com/demo

I've had trouble with some of my own CSV files not importing; the files in 
question came from a program called DB Browser and contained NULL 
characters as well as malformed line breaks (though the plugin should be 
able to handle the latter).  These errors showed up in the papa parse demo 
as well.


On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 04:01:28 UTC-6, ste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Evan,
>
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 8:45:40 AM UTC+1, Evan Balster wrote:
>  
>
>> Made another plugin for my own use; some here might find it helpful:
>>
>> http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/csv_unpack.html
>>
>> It parses imported CSV files, converting each row into a tiddler.  It 
>> works as part of TiddlyWiki's own parse mechanism.
>>
>> This looks like a really nice idea. However, I wasn't able to import any 
> of my CSV files, no matter whether I used a comma or a semicolon as a 
> delimiter, and no matter whether I added quotation marks or not. Could you 
> maybe publish a sample CSV file that works for you? This way, it might be 
> easier for us to debug your plugin and/or to adjust our own files.
>
> Best,
>
> Stef
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Re: [tw] Possible bug: Importing tiddlers with existing names causes unexpected data loss

2017-12-20 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Diego

> Do you all think that this behavior is indeed a bug?

The present behaviour is what was implemented originally; it could be changed, 
but subject to backwards compatibility (in particular, the import mechanism is 
reused by the upgrade process so we’d need to make sure that that still works).

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Best,
> Diego
> 
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 6:01:14 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
> Sorry,
> 
> My Mistake, I could not locate the option to select this, so I saved it. It 
> comes with the Marios Tiddler Bundle Plugin
> 
> see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/_Uqbg08Pjow 
> 
> 
> and has the side effect of letting you choose to overwrite or create new with 
> duplicate tiddler names even when using the import facility.
> 
> Tony
> 
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 10:13:19 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
> Sorry Tony,
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something, but is this just the code for the actual 
> checkbox not the mechanism? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Diego
> 
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 4:55:02 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
> A Dump from my own notes=, using import, perhaps this will help.
> 
> $:/config/wikilabs/enableOverwriteCheck = no vs Yes
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler="$:/config/wikilabs/enableOverwriteCheck" field="text" 
> checked="yes" unchecked="no" default="no"> Enable Overwrite Check
> 
> By default, the import mechanism overwrites existing tiddlers. By enabling 
> this option, you can activate a mechanism, that creates a new tiddler name. 
> By default this option is off.
> 
> Tony 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 9:40:32 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I just now realized that importing does not warn about overwriting existing 
> tiddlers with the same name! I feel this is a bug, but am not sure if this is 
> the desired behavior. If it is, I will open an issue on GitHub asking for a 
> warning to be shown. 
> 
> Steps to reproduce:
> Go to https://tiddlywiki.com/ 
> Drag and drop the attached tiddler to import
> Accept import
> 
> Desired Outcome:
> The import tiddler warns you of the incoming tiddler with the same name and 
> leaves that conflicting incoming tiddler unchecked, preventing accidental 
> data loss. A user can still manually check it, acknowledging the warning. 
> 
> Actual Outcome:
> The import tiddler shows no indication of a collision/existing tiddler. Upon 
> accepting the import, the contents of the HelloThere tiddler are lost without 
> warning. 
> 
> I came across this while trying to import around 100 tiddlers into my TW. 
> These tiddlers were automatically generated using a modified bibtex importer 
> in another playground TW for some papers I am working with. I realized after 
> the fact, that I already had an entry in my actual TW for a paper, whose 
> content I now lost.
> 
> 
> Note: The attached tiddler is just a title of "HelloThere" and the content 
> "modified":
> 
> [
> {
> "created": "20171218222709327",
> "text": "modified",
> "title": "HelloThere",
> "tags": "",
> "modified": "20171218222716073"
> }
> ]
> 
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Roadmap for TiddlyDesktop

2017-12-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jeremy

Much of the attraction of TiddlyDesktop I think is in ease of install? It 
has limits but its attractively simple to get working.

TiddlyServer is better for getting to a (near) normal browser experience. 
But its more complex to set-up for beginners.

This question of "simplicity of setup" v. "maximal browser function" is an 
interesting and important one IMO.

Best wishes
Josiah  

So, the direction I’d like to take it is to develop the web serving 
> capabilities: in that configuration, TiddlyDesktop would be responsible for 
> running the serverside of wikis, and you’d use your usual browser to 
> connect to it.
>
> It’s also worth mentioning TiddlyServer which also enhances the basic 
> Node.js configuration of TiddlyWiki.
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[tw] Re: Thousands seperator with plugin "letfilter" (let:sum)

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Marcus

My simple math plugin RPN can do number formatting, see the usage tab here:

https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Frpn

Happy formatting!
Thomas 

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread Furicle
I'm seeing the red checkmark not clear as well - I have updated to 0.3.3 
and I am on Windows 10 (64 bit)

But it is saving, it's just not clearing the mark

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It doesn't work for me either. I'm using the older 3.3 version from 12/8 
(at least that is what the date says). I haven't let FF update. Sometimes 
it tries to default save, and other times it ignores requests to save.

In other words, nothing changed -- but everything stopped. As if some timer 
were tripped.

I switched to BJ's save mechanism. But now (at least with the custom path) 
it doesn't see the junctions as being *below* downloads, and it also wants 
to use the default mechanism, but with about twice as many dialogs to 
dismiss.

I'm wondering if a windows update changed junction/link behavior.

So, is everyone having problems on Windows, or is it multiple systems?

Thanks!
Mark

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 8:35:42 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Folks, 
>
> I'm happy to announce, that:
>
> *AddOn: file-backups* 
>  "TiddlyWiki 
> File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn!
>
> It works for *TiddlyWiki 5* and *TiddlyWikiClassic*. 
>
> How it works: 
>  - "One image is worth a 1000 words". So have a look at 1000+ images ;)
>  - Watch the Video! 
>
> *If you like it: Support it  :) *
>
> Features: 
>  - Supports TiddlyWiki 5
>  - Supports TiddlyWiki Classic
>  - Detects, if a file TW is opened in 2 tabs OR 2 windows
>- Shows a warning banner, that will be closed if clicked
>
>  - Files changed from outside download directory, opens "Save As" dialog
>  - Ubuntu version shows "Open in new tab banner" instead
>
>  - Improved Workflow
>
>  - The AddOn uses less permissions now.
> - browser tabs ... and
> - activeTabs ... To create the "backup / download" icon
> - local storage ... to save settings and backup-counter
> - downloads area ... to be able to do its work :)
>
> Learn More:
>  - next post 
>  :)
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> *PS - If you like it: Support it  :) *
>

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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2017-12-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Dear Evan

Thank you for adding that simple demo. It really helped me better 
understand how to use the plugin and make steps towards what I need!!

Best wishes
Josiah

Evan Balster wrote:
>
> Released version 0.1.2:  http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
> ...
> * Added badger inoculation simulator 
>  for 
> @TiddlyTweeter (still lacks month automation, though)
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[tw] Re: Editing and Saving a Node-TW on mobile

2017-12-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Doesn't the default save or PMario's/BJ extensions work on Ipad/Safari ? 
It's not as convenient, perhaps, but if it works, you could save whatever 
notes you have and later drag and drop them back into your node version.

-- Mark

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 8:26:46 AM UTC-8, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Right now, I am running my TW on node out of a dropbox folder. This means 
> I can no longer access it from my iPad. The workaround I currently have is 
> to manually click the save button on my wiki, triggering a file download. I 
> then move this mobile-TW file into a different dropbox folder, and open it 
> from my iPad. This is essentially "view only" as I can make edits, but 
> can't actually save anything. I thought I would be able to save this 
> mobile-TW, and just import the modified tiddlers when I got back to my 
> desk, but this seems impossible. 
>
> Does anyone here know how to take a node-TW on the go in such a way as to 
> be able to edit it and bring back the changes? 
>
> Thanks!
> Diego
>

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[tw] change bullet list

2017-12-20 Thread tobaisch
Hello,
How can i change a bit the unsorted standard list, which one generates with 
a "*" or  a "**".
I would especially like the second sublist in a smaller font and without a 
circle at the beginning.
THX
Regards
Tom

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Mario, Thomas,

I can confirm the behaviour Thomas mentiones.

Yesterday I created a new Firefox profile (I had 'invisible' radio buttons) 
and got problems with saving after installing the (new 0.3.3) file-backups 
add-on: saving worked (you could see the flickering download arrow), but 
the save button stayed red.
But one TW did not save at all with the following error in the console:

saver-handler: Saving wiki with method autosave through saver tiddlyfox $:
/core/modules/utils/logger.js:33:10
save-wiki error: 
Error
columnNumber: 1
fileName: "undefined"
lineNumber: 0
message: "filename must not contain back-references (..)"
stack: ""
__proto__: Object { … }


Although my radio buttons reappeared with the new profile, I decided this 
morning to use my 'old' profile (which had to my best knowlegde an earlier 
version of the file-backups add-on, 0.2 or so) again to regain normal 
saving.
And yes it did: normal saving with disappearing red save button. Also the 
TW that did not save with the new profile/add-on, saved again.

But after a few hours - without changing a thing - I saw the 'normal' 
saving has disappeared and the save button stays red again (but saving 
works, even for the 'problematic' TW).
Checking the add-ons revealed version 0.3.3. Can it be that it was updated 
by Firefox syncing?

Cheers,

Ton


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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread Zyb
Same for me after I updated the addon yesterday. The TW is being saved it 
seems (so no data loss when you close it despite the warning), but it is 
not marked as saved.

Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2017 13:34:54 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Elmiger:
>
> Hi Mario,
>
> Sounds like good news, but the (previous) version stopped working for me 
> yesterday at home and today at the office, both in FF 57 Win and in FF 
> Developer 58 on the Mac :(
>
> After an update to the new version on Windows the downloads happen again, 
> but without TW noticing the save process (TW 5.1.14) – the download icon 
> stays red and an alert pops up when I close TW after saving.
>
> Is there a special upgrade procedure? Can there be a connection between 
> you/FF publishing a new version and the old version stopping to work?
>
> All the best, 
> Thomas
>
> Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2017 17:35:42 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:
>>
>> Hi Folks, 
>>
>> I'm happy to announce, that:
>>
>> *AddOn: file-backups* 
>>  "TiddlyWiki 
>> File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn!
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Mario,

Sounds like good news, but the (previous) version stopped working for me 
yesterday at home and today at the office, both in FF 57 Win and in FF 
Developer 58 on the Mac :(

After an update to the new version on Windows the downloads happen again, 
but without TW noticing the save process (TW 5.1.14) – the download icon 
stays red and an alert pops up when I close TW after saving.

Is there a special upgrade procedure? Can there be a connection between 
you/FF publishing a new version and the old version stopping to work?

All the best, 
Thomas

Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2017 17:35:42 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:
>
> Hi Folks, 
>
> I'm happy to announce, that:
>
> *AddOn: file-backups* 
>  "TiddlyWiki 
> File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn!
>

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[tw] Re: It used to work.....

2017-12-20 Thread Stephen Wilson
Yep, that got it :)

On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 07:14:10 UTC, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> Fancy that.. So my older backup is on a newer version than my current 
> one... What the help have I been doing? 
>
> Cheers
>
> Ste
>
>

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[tw] Re: csv_unpack plugin: Import CSV rows as tiddlers/fields

2017-12-20 Thread stefct4
Hi Evan,

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 8:45:40 AM UTC+1, Evan Balster wrote:
 

> Made another plugin for my own use; some here might find it helpful:
>
> http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/csv_unpack.html
>
> It parses imported CSV files, converting each row into a tiddler.  It 
> works as part of TiddlyWiki's own parse mechanism.
>
> This looks like a really nice idea. However, I wasn't able to import any 
of my CSV files, no matter whether I used a comma or a semicolon as a 
delimiter, and no matter whether I added quotation marks or not. Could you 
maybe publish a sample CSV file that works for you? This way, it might be 
easier for us to debug your plugin and/or to adjust our own files.

Best,

Stef

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