[tw] Re: [TW5] Maintain Current Tiddler in transcluded code

[TonyM]

Joshua,

{{||TemplateName}} Works perfectly thanks

Tony

On Sunday, 24 December 2017 11:48:38 UTC+11, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> I have run into this problem also. The default wikitext shortcut for 
> transclusion:
> {{TiddlerName}}
> actually set 2 nested widgets:
> <$tiddler tiddler="TiddlerName">
> <$transclude tiddler="TiddlerName">
> 
> 
>
>
> So, you have a couple of options.
>
> Use the shortcut wikitext and leave the "TiddlerName" portion blank, but 
> set the "TemplateName":
> {{||TemplateName}}
>
> Or simply specify only the Transclude Widget:
> <$transclude tiddler="TemplateName">
> 
>
> Tiddlywiki Docs Reference: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%2520with%2520Templates.html
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>
> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 4:28:29 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I seem to have stepped on my own toes and broken something. Perhaps 
>> someone knows the answer.
>>
>> I have a Tiddler tagged $:/tags/TiddlerInfo to make in visible in each 
>> tiddlers info drop down
>>
>> The Tiddler contains some lists and macro calls that work fine, updating 
>> the current tiddlers fields
>> This tiddler in turn also transcludes a number of tiddlers, so that they 
>> can be reused elsewhere.
>>
>> eg; {{$:/PSaT/tiddler-disposition/infotab/header}}
>>
>> Unfortunately these transcluded tiddlers seem to be considered the 
>> current tiddler when the info panel reference fields via macros.
>> When the original tiddler uses the info panel the fields are updated not 
>> in it, but in the twice removed transcluded tiddlers.
>>
>> I did wrap these transclusions in
>>
>> <$tiddler>
>> 
>>
>> But they no longer seem to work
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> PS Happy Christmas Eve for those that celebrate it, we are approaching 
>> midday Christmas eve here in Sydney.
>>  
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Maintain Current Tiddler in transcluded code

[Joshua Fontany]

I have run into this problem also. The default wikitext shortcut for 
transclusion:
{{TiddlerName}}
actually set 2 nested widgets:
<$tiddler tiddler="TiddlerName">
<$transclude tiddler="TiddlerName">




So, you have a couple of options.

Use the shortcut wikitext and leave the "TiddlerName" portion blank, but 
set the "TemplateName":
{{||TemplateName}}

Or simply specify only the Transclude Widget:
<$transclude tiddler="TemplateName">


Tiddlywiki Docs 
Refetrence: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Transclusion%2520with%2520Templates.html

Best,
Joshua Fontany

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 4:28:29 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I seem to have stepped on my own toes and broken something. Perhaps 
> someone knows the answer.
>
> I have a Tiddler tagged $:/tags/TiddlerInfo to make in visible in each 
> tiddlers info drop down
>
> The Tiddler contains some lists and macro calls that work fine, updating 
> the current tiddlers fields
> This tiddler in turn also transcludes a number of tiddlers, so that they 
> can be reused elsewhere.
>
> eg; {{$:/PSaT/tiddler-disposition/infotab/header}}
>
> Unfortunately these transcluded tiddlers seem to be considered the current 
> tiddler when the info panel reference fields via macros.
> When the original tiddler uses the info panel the fields are updated not 
> in it, but in the twice removed transcluded tiddlers.
>
> I did wrap these transclusions in
>
> <$tiddler>
> 
>
> But they no longer seem to work
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> PS Happy Christmas Eve for those that celebrate it, we are approaching 
> midday Christmas eve here in Sydney.
>  
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Maintain Current Tiddler in transcluded code

[Birthe C]

Merry Christmas, TonyM,

If you transclude using the transclude widget it will try to use fields 
from the tiddler it is transcluded to. Use {{}}} instead -at least  I think.


Birthe
It is late night here in Denmark, cold and dark but no snow. AND I had lot 
of hot punch...that is why I am not sure ;-)


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[tw] [TW5] Maintain Current Tiddler in transcluded code

[TonyM]

Folks,

I seem to have stepped on my own toes and broken something. Perhaps someone 
knows the answer.

I have a Tiddler tagged $:/tags/TiddlerInfo to make in visible in each 
tiddlers info drop down

The Tiddler contains some lists and macro calls that work fine, updating 
the current tiddlers fields
This tiddler in turn also transcludes a number of tiddlers, so that they 
can be reused elsewhere.

eg; {{$:/PSaT/tiddler-disposition/infotab/header}}

Unfortunately these transcluded tiddlers seem to be considered the current 
tiddler when the info panel reference fields via macros.
When the original tiddler uses the info panel the fields are updated not in 
it, but in the twice removed transcluded tiddlers.

I did wrap these transclusions in

<$tiddler>


But they no longer seem to work

Any Ideas?

Thanks in advance

PS Happy Christmas Eve for those that celebrate it, we are approaching 
midday Christmas eve here in Sydney.
 
Tony







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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Birthe C]

I am using Linux Mint too and has been updated to Firefox 57.1
I think you should look into some of the other saving options, do not rely 
on tiddlyfox, at least not for long. If tiddlyfox works for you right now, 
you need to avoid updating Firefox.

Birthe

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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

 

> Vayira,
>

If you keep putting off the inevitable need to upgrade you may very well 
face problems sooner or later. There is however plenty of options available 
now, some which have considerable advantages. 

With all due respect Schedule some time in for some maintenance and 
learning, this is needed every decade or so :)

Of course it can vary by operating system.

I would recommend TiddlyDesktop to handle both classic and TW5 on one 
computer. TiddlySaver or Marios Saver with backup are great options as 
well. I use TiddlyServer for access to File and NodeJS versions from the 
LAN, and other network devices.

I am investigating the beaker browser version but it is a little on the 
beta side.

Best wishes
Tony

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[tw] keyboard shortcuts without the buttons

[Shay Shaked]

I don't like the button and I think they take too much space. I know I can 
take them off (one by one) from settings, however, I do want to keep some 
of the keyboard shortcuts handy. The preview pane, for example, is awesome; 
so is the link shortcut. How can this be accomplished? I'm sure it's rather 
simple. Looking into this myself. 

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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[vayira]

Somehow FFox updated itself to 55.0.2 which seems to be the latest version 
for linux mint. 

TW saving stopped working but I imported to classic version 2.8.1 and 
tiddly fox started working again which I'm very happy about. 

I was expecting to have more problems. 

Can I expect to have problems saving again in the near future? 

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[tw] Re: How do I NOT call field:caption's fieldValue?

[JWHoneycutt]

OMG Jed - Why didn't I think of that.
That makes perfect sense - I will try it.

Thanks.

JWHoneycutt

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 8:53:59 AM UTC-5, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I think that you would need to make another version of the tabs macro to 
> do this.
>
> I think that changing the line
>
> <$transclude tiddler=<> field="caption">
>
> to 
>
> <$transclude tiddler=<> field="title">
>
> would do it. Remember that if you don't make a new macro with a new name 
> it will change how tabs work in everything in your wiki.
>

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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

[pedruchini]

Hi Mat,
I can confirm that your plugin works now with the change made by Birthe in 
the stylesheet.
Pedro

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[tw] External (non TW) roadblocks for me for multi user TW.

[Ste Wilson]

Apologies for the long ramble.. 

Currently, as far as I'm aware there are now two viable multi user options. 
NoteSelf hooked up to cloudant and now Jed Carty The Awesome has developed a 
solution. 
My problems adopting either of these solutions are down to a number of external 
factors. 

NoteSelf plays nicely with cloudant and the multi user set up tool from the 
equally awesome Danielo Rodríguez also links into this. Unfortunately ibm are 
moving from cloudant to bluemix and I have hit my ignorance ceiling trying to 
move one over to the other and am unsure if Danielo's user creation tool will 
continue to work. 
Any insights appreciated. 

In order for me to use Jeds recent awesomeness effectively I need work 
colleagues and students to be able to access it both in and out of work. Yes, 
the simplest thing would be for the IT dept to set up a server If only it 
were so easy.. *sobs quietly*.. This means I need a web hosted solution for a 
nodejs site (and preferably free because I'm skint.. again.. you'd think I 
could get work to pay.. )... 

Jed said he wouldn't trust anyone that did free nodejs hosting but Redhat 
sounded like a safe pair of hands..i had a look at redhat's openshift and once 
again hit my ignorance ceiling (if I hosted my tiddly on git could I... I don't 
know)... Would it even be possible to publish a nodejs tiddlywiki from there? 

So.. My plea.. For the better IT'd than I... 
Anyone have a look at openshift or the like and write a nice idiot guide.. And/ 
or NoteSelf set up for bluemix?? 

Look forward to thoughts and insights. Thanks. 

Ste


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[tw] [TW5] MultiUser plugin now serves multiple wikis.

[Jed Carty]

In celebration of having some time off I have add a bunch more with my 
multiuser plugin.

Now it can (new stuff):

* be configured from within the wiki (most command line arguments are done 
from within the wiki)
* server multiple wikis
* you can reset or shutdown the wiki server from within the wiki
* run shell scripts from within the wiki

and (things is could do before and still does)

* watch for changes on the file system and reflect any changes to the file 
system in any connected the browsers (almost) immediately
* allow multiple people (or one person in multiple computers/browsers) to 
edit the same wiki at the same time.

The plugin is here if you want to use it.

https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-MultiUser

This could be split into a few separate plugins but since they are closely 
related I have been using it as a single plugin. The problem is that then 
to use the multi-user part you would have to have all the plugins installed.

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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

[Birthe C]

Hi Mat,

Ofcourse, I did it trying to help in this busiest of times ;-). You only 
need the stylesheet. I think it should work, but I do not know of anyone 
else testing it. You do not need to point anything out, I just did what you 
had yourself described in the readme.

Merry Christmas...and thanks for all your goodies.
Birthe

Den lørdag den 23. december 2017 kl. 16.09.51 UTC+1 skrev Mat:
>
> Birthe, so if I merely copy your Pirat version to 
> tablinks-ff.tiddlyspot.com - will everything be alright then for others 
> who get it there? Is it OK that I do this, obviously pointing out that you 
> helped?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

[Mat]

Birthe, so if I merely copy your Pirat version to 
tablinks-ff.tiddlyspot.com - will everything be alright then for others who 
get it there? Is it OK that I do this, obviously pointing out that you 
helped?

<:-)

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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

[Birthe C]

Only a very small change in the stylesheet to transclude the value of field 
"display". By the way it works for me in Chromium also.

pedruchini wrote above, that problem was solved by changing the  stylesheet.

Birthe


Den lørdag den 23. december 2017 kl. 15.47.53 UTC+1 skrev Mat:
>
> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 3:42:45 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mat,
>>
>> I'm to blame for the pirate site, that is why I called it pirate, 
>> tablinks is totally yours and I love it.
>>
>
> Well, clearly good that you did then.
> But did you make any code changes or do you know why/how it works without 
> problems for pedruchini (...or maybe for everyone, I didn't try it)?
>
> <:-)
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

[Mat]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 3:42:45 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Hi Mat,
>
> I'm to blame for the pirate site, that is why I called it pirate, tablinks 
> is totally yours and I love it.
>

Well, clearly good that you did then.
But did you make any code changes or do you know why/how it works without 
problems for pedruchini (...or maybe for everyone, I didn't try it)?

<:-)


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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

[Birthe C]

Hi Mat,

I'm to blame for the pirate site, that is why I called it pirate, tablinks 
is totally yours and I love it.

Birthe

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[tw] Re: I can't deactivate Tablinks (Firefox version)

[Mat]

>
>  watch this video I recorded with my voice : 
> https://archive.org/download/chirifuvid/tablinks-test.mp4
>

Hi again Pedruchini. Good video showing the issue. Actually, I don't think 
I made that Pirat site, at least I can't remember it. But if that works in 
FF, then what is the problem? Or did you get your tablinks plugin from 
tablinks-ff.tiddlyspot.com ? Do you still need help or can you not simply 
use the Pirat version?

<:-)

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[tw] Re: How do I NOT call field:caption's fieldValue?

[Jed Carty]

I think that you would need to make another version of the tabs macro to do 
this.

I think that changing the line

<$transclude tiddler=<> field="caption">

to 

<$transclude tiddler=<> field="title">

would do it. Remember that if you don't make a new macro with a new name it 
will change how tabs work in everything in your wiki.

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[tw] How do I NOT call field:caption's fieldValue?

[JWHoneycutt]

How do I NOT call field:caption's fieldValue in the tabs that follow?

When I give a tiddler a "caption" field, and then referrence that tiddler, 
the captionValue appears in place of it's name.  

I know that I can optionally name the link to a tiddler like this: `
[[optional_name|tiddler_title]]`.  

When I use a macro like `<>` I get the captionValue.

When I use `<>` it doesn't work 
either.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [tw] [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

[PMario]

Hi Stan,

The performance info you see in your control panel is because of the 
Performance Instrumentation 

 
setting int the ControlPanel: Settings

If you deactivate the setting you'll need to save and reloade the TW. ... 
It's for internal use. 

-m

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Re: [tw] [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

[PMario]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 11:48:13 AM UTC+1, Stan001 wrote:
>
> Observation:
> The trick for mac, FF and TW and File Backups v 0.3.4 seems to be* 
> the necessary restart of mac to allow the Add on work properly*. – It did 
> not work right after the installation.
>
> I’m glad. …but, well, it reminds me of windows some time ago…
>

:) ... That's funny. I only thought about this possibility, because a 
friend of mine told me, that he had to restart his mac some time ago, 
because of weired behaviour of a native program. He didn't do that for over 
a year. ... 
 

> *Many many thanks for your work.*
>

Glad that it works now :)

 Merry Christmas,
>

Merry Christmas, 

- Mario

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Re: [tw] "Forkeable" TiddlyWiki for Beaker Browser?

[PMario]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 7:13:17 AM UTC+1, Mal wrote:
>
> There is an Android browser under development at: 
> https://github.com/bunsenbrowser/bunsen
>
> I've loaded it on my phone, but am currently having trouble with saving 
> changes.
>
> Also, I don't think your link is working, or I don't know how to get it to 
> open in Beaker.
>

That's interesting. ... thx for sharing 

-m

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Re: [tw] "Forkeable" TiddlyWiki for Beaker Browser?

[PMario]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 5:29:25 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote: 

> Are there any smartphone implementations?, personally this would help back 
> to base access to self hosted wikis without two desktops/computers.
>

I don't know any. ... Beaker browser is an electron app, similar to 
VisualStudio Code, or Atom code editor, but smaller atm. So they are full 
blown PC apps. ... 

IMO Implementing the dat protocoll and filesystem for mobile devices will 
be a completely different approach. ... But js webassembly will make that 
stuff possible. So only future can tell :)

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Re: [tw] Re: "Forkeable" TiddlyWiki for Beaker Browser?

[PMario]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:45:28 AM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Without a staging area, can you have relative paths to image files? That 
> seems like a pretty important consideration.
>

I didn't test that. ... but if they are part of the dat:// system the 
should be relative paths, like any other web resource. 

-m

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Re: [tw] "Forkeable" TiddlyWiki for Beaker Browser?

[stefct4]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:54:06 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> If you were able to run Beaker from several platforms  you would still be 
> in trouble editing the same wiki.
>

This is true. Theoretically, however, you could always fork your own wiki 
when you're on a different platform. What seems to be missing, though, is a 
good mechanism to merge your changes back into the original wiki. Does 
anybody know whether someone is working on a solution? Or did I miss 
something, and such a thing already exists?

Best,

Stef

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Re: [tw] "Forkeable" TiddlyWiki for Beaker Browser?

[Birthe C]

Thanks Stef,

My computer running Linux is only 32 bit. I did try as you did, building 
from source, but has to many errors I do not know how to handle.

You are right about mobile options, but I think that will come later on. I 
read something concerning that. If you were able to run Beaker from several 
platforms  you would still be in trouble editing the same wiki.

Birthe



Den lørdag den 23. december 2017 kl. 12.39.35 UTC+1 skrev ste...@gmail.com:
>
>
> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:32:37 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>>
>> It works well only problem for me is I have to fire up my Windows 
>> computer to run Beaker.
>>
>> Here, it works well on Debian Stretch (64-bit). I was able to run it in a 
> 32-bit Linux VM, too, by building it from source 
>  (a bit tricky, but doable). 
>
> Biggest problem is the current lack of mobile options, in my opinion.
>
> ~Stef
>  
>

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Re: [tw] "Forkeable" TiddlyWiki for Beaker Browser?

[stefct4]

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:32:37 PM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
>
> It works well only problem for me is I have to fire up my Windows computer 
> to run Beaker.
>
> Here, it works well on Debian Stretch (64-bit). I was able to run it in a 
32-bit Linux VM, too, by building it from source 
 (a bit tricky, but doable). 

Biggest problem is the current lack of mobile options, in my opinion.

~Stef
 

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Re: [tw] "Forkeable" TiddlyWiki for Beaker Browser?

[Birthe C]

lab assistant with the muppets, TonyM,

It works well only problem for me is I have to fire up my Windows computer 
to run Beaker.


Birthe


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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

[BurningTreeC]

@Joshua

some of what Thomas has just launched 
>  may 
> be relevant. His approach handles menus very well.
>

what was your idea there? I took a look inside and it's very cool and 
useful, but there's a lot of niceness... could you post a link or a 
screenshot?

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 18:04:29 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao BurningTreeC
>
> Seriously good!!! Clean design. Nice the base model echoes the visuality 
> of the original vanilla TW look.
>
> I wonder if it could also support tiddlers that are more than one column 
> wide mixed in with tiddlers a column wide?
>
> On better mobile look: some of what Thomas has just launched 
>  
> may be relevant. His approach handles menus very well.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>> storyview
>>
>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>
>>
>>
>> the code repository is on github: 
>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>
>>
>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>
>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>> add, comment!*
>>
>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>>
>> what's missing?
>>
>>
>>- a stylesheet for mobile view
>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>> span-3 
>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame
>>- a packed plugin
>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position
>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview)
>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor
>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>   - question: how is that done?
>>- ... more to come
>>
>>
>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>
>

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