[tw5] Re: CSS Framework - need your advises your idea / comments

[Mohammad]

Thanks Tony.
I will take a look.
My own opinion is to use a subset from one of the well established frameworks.
So by now w3.css, Pure CSS and bootstrap are candidates
Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting NoteSlam

[Mohammad]

Thank you David
Have you upgraded it in TW 5.1.17?
Seems the margin at left is not correct?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

great you tweet your list.

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Re: [tw5] setting up tiddlywiki with save working on Apache

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

How are you trying to save on Apache? Store.php? WebDav?

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On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 4:12:51 PM UTC-7, J wrote:
>
> Hi All!
>
> I have been trying to find a setup document for TW5 with save working on 
> Apache.  I have pieced together what I have learned from reading various 
> posts but my setup is not working properly.  Can someone point me to a doc 
> please?  
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> j
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Re: [tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[David Gifford]

No worries - maybe "Tiddler fodder" or "Suggested content for your
tiddlers" would have made more sense

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:58 PM, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Ciao David
>
> Yeah I maybe made it look far more than it is.
>
> IF I could do if for real I would.
>
> But you also read a tad much into it. There is no rule because the
> "ToolMap" exists  everyone needs to be focused on it.
>
> The title is "Suggested TW". But that has been seen in ways I never
> intended.
>
> Frankly, I should probably never have started the thread :-)
>
> Josiah
>
> On Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:43:45 UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> More disappointed about the lack of potato TiddlyWikis than irritated.
>>
>> I read the title "Suggested TiddlyWiki" as either a TiddlyWiki that
>> someone was suggesting be added to the toolmap, or a request that someone
>> create a TiddlyWiki edition based on a TiddlyWiki in the wild. But the
>> links I opened were just music videos.
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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao David

Yeah I maybe made it look far more than it is.

IF I could do if for real I would.

But you also read a tad much into it. There is no rule because the 
"ToolMap" exists  everyone needs to be focused on it. 

The title is "Suggested TW". But that has been seen in ways I never 
intended.

Frankly, I should probably never have started the thread :-) 

Josiah

On Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:43:45 UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
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> More disappointed about the lack of potato TiddlyWikis than irritated. 
>
> I read the title "Suggested TiddlyWiki" as either a TiddlyWiki that 
> someone was suggesting be added to the toolmap, or a request that someone 
> create a TiddlyWiki edition based on a TiddlyWiki in the wild. But the 
> links I opened were just music videos.
>

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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[David Gifford]

More disappointed about the lack of potato TiddlyWikis than irritated. 

I read the title "Suggested TiddlyWiki" as either a TiddlyWiki that someone 
was suggesting be added to the toolmap, or a request that someone create a 
TiddlyWiki edition based on a TiddlyWiki in the wild. But the links I 
opened were just music videos.

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 11:17:54 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I'm giving up that approach as Dave already gave me a beating for 
> irritating him :-)
>
> The POINT of this thread is to suggest nice things that do NOT exist. It 
> is not so easy without any pointers to something that DOES exist. 
>
> *I* liked ONE sentence with a FAKE revelation. 
>
> I'm gonna divide it in future between IDEA and Resource. So that you can 
> see the TW does NOT YET exist.
>
> I'm not so sure it will work, but its fairer.
>
> J.
>
> On Monday, 11 June 2018 18:08:31 UTC+2, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>>
>> OK, this drives me crazy. Pointing to a "Book" as a source for a TW is 
>> not a very good idea. TWs are made up of many, cross linked, individual 
>> entries. It's part and parcel of how a wiki works. If you want a prose 
>> entry then go to the book or write a document.
>>
>> On Monday, 11 June 2018 13:04:22 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> 5 - The History And Sociology Of The Potato 
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>
>> If you want a TW for this kind of stuff then a proof of concept is here 
>> http://www.kizar.co.uk/TW/Spuds.html
>>  
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting NoteSlam

[David Gifford]

Hi Mohammad

1) A version of the outline without the plusses is in the tiddler 

Printable table of contents

(Make sure to have a look at the Noteslam tab for more instructions like 
that)

2) I designed Noteslam as a personal tool not as something to use to share 
with others. Feel free to adapt it as you please for sharing things with 
'final users'.

To be honest, I get disenchanted with the original Noteslam the same day I 
created it. Long tiddler entries and too many levels of indenting mean it 
doesn't fit in the sidebar. Also, I wanted a way to format outline entry 
text by color, etc. So I created this: 
http://giffmex.org/noteslam/noteslam.online.mine.html. It requires an extra 
step for each entry (paste the title into the caption field and possibly 
format it). It also means ordering is by title but what is displayed is the 
caption field, so items can be displayed in something other than 
alphabetical order without resorting to 01. or other tricks.

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 2:43:24 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> David!
>  After you finalize your outline, is it possible to have a checkbox or 
> some setting to hide the plus sign?
> Also it is good to prevent editing to final user!
>
> Best
> Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 6:28:38 PM UTC+4:30, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Yes but the difference is, with that tool all I have to do to start a new 
>> level of the outline is hit the indent key. Hard to compete with that in 
>> TiddlyWiki...
>>
>> David Gifford
>> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>>
>> *Resonate Global Mission*
>> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
>> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
>> resonateglobalmission.org
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 8:51 AM, @TiddlyTweeter  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 ... I tend to have a lot of long tiddlers ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Got it. My idea won't work with that mode of organisation. There its 
>>> more A Very Smart Contents List. I think.
>>>
>>> But I did come across "a bloke called Gifford" who make a good basic 
>>> guide to TiddlyWiki resources (not in TW) using a really neat Outline with 
>>> (brief) inline content that did work well. You know it? :-) J, x
>>>  
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[tw5] setting up tiddlywiki with save working on Apache

[J]

Hi All!

I have been trying to find a setup document for TW5 with save working on 
Apache.  I have pieced together what I have learned from reading various 
posts but my setup is not working properly.  Can someone point me to a doc 
please?  

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
j

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute

[TonyM]

Ah ha,

I think TiddlyWiki can offer so much more than traditional CMS's like 
WordPress, especially if you want to add logic and processes, but I also 
think the integration of the two would be valuable. 

I wonder if we could get tiddlywiki to use the same MySql database for 
tiddlers, and thus leverage the wordpress user model.

Regards
Tonyt

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 8:13:06 AM UTC+10, Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>
> Thanks. I decided I'd rather use TW5 as a blog than Wordpress.   Might 
> have some web design clients who think so too. :)
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:44 AM, @TiddlyTweeter  > wrote:
>
>> Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>>>
>>> I just replaced the blog on my newest wordpress site with Tiddlywiki, 
>>> and it doesn't look half bad.  http://paganwebsites.com/blog
>>>
>>
>> Ha! Interesting you chose to iframe (http://paws.tiddlyspot.com/) of a 
>> TW into Wordpress. I never seen that before.
>>
>> J. 
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute

[TonyM]

Morgaine,

I created a conversation group in relation to TiddlyWiki and WordPress in 
the demonstration of yammer, please join me in a 
conversation https://www.yammer.com/tiddlywiki/#/

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 8:13:06 AM UTC+10, Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>
> Thanks. I decided I'd rather use TW5 as a blog than Wordpress.   Might 
> have some web design clients who think so too. :)
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:44 AM, @TiddlyTweeter  > wrote:
>
>> Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>>>
>>> I just replaced the blog on my newest wordpress site with Tiddlywiki, 
>>> and it doesn't look half bad.  http://paganwebsites.com/blog
>>>
>>
>> Ha! Interesting you chose to iframe (http://paws.tiddlyspot.com/) of a 
>> TW into Wordpress. I never seen that before.
>>
>> J. 
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[tw5] Re: CSS Framework - need your advises your idea / comments

[TonyM]

Also,

Mario mentions the Pure.CSS frame work in hist videos 
series 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF5-mV9w2Sc&list=PLuiC_HFhI4OyUiDGqvzB64mTQTURABjlW&index=2

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 8:16:55 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I have not had the time to give you a comprehensive response but Just 
> wanted to mention I used the style-sheet from  w3.css 
> quite successfully in one 
> TiddlyWiki but do not recall all the steps I took. There is also a font 
> solution in css for fontawesome found in a plugin you may want to loot at.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:21:19 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>
>> While TW basic edition have enough nice and standard wiki formatting 
>> tools (like bold, italic, underline, code block, colors, ...)
>> It is capable to have extra CSS to do advanced and sophisticate visual 
>> elements using CSS. My question is to have a sort of standard CSS
>> what do you recommend:
>>
>>1. Use a subset of CSS from a well established available frameworks 
>>like bootstrap?
>>2. Develop a framework from scratch?
>>
>>
>> The next question:
>>
>>1. from wiki point of view, the final user should be able to develop 
>>his/her contents in a simple, straight forward logic (avoiding many ways 
>> to 
>>do the same thing) do you recommend to have some macro to use the above 
>> css 
>>framework or you think it is okay to extensively html5 elements?
>>
>>
>> From user point of view, NOT DEVELOPER, my own idea is to have a small 
>> subset of bootstrap css framework, because it mature and well maintained 
>> and up to date, but I believe to avoid html tags and syntax as much as 
>> possible. I mean the tiddler source should be in wiki syntax in a very 
>> simple and clear and easy to understand format.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: CSS Framework - need your advises your idea / comments

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

I have not had the time to give you a comprehensive response but Just 
wanted to mention I used the style-sheet from  w3.css 
quite successfully in one 
TiddlyWiki but do not recall all the steps I took. There is also a font 
solution in css for fontawesome found in a plugin you may want to loot at.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:21:19 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
>
> While TW basic edition have enough nice and standard wiki formatting tools 
> (like bold, italic, underline, code block, colors, ...)
> It is capable to have extra CSS to do advanced and sophisticate visual 
> elements using CSS. My question is to have a sort of standard CSS
> what do you recommend:
>
>1. Use a subset of CSS from a well established available frameworks 
>like bootstrap?
>2. Develop a framework from scratch?
>
>
> The next question:
>
>1. from wiki point of view, the final user should be able to develop 
>his/her contents in a simple, straight forward logic (avoiding many ways 
> to 
>do the same thing) do you recommend to have some macro to use the above 
> css 
>framework or you think it is okay to extensively html5 elements?
>
>
> From user point of view, NOT DEVELOPER, my own idea is to have a small 
> subset of bootstrap css framework, because it mature and well maintained 
> and up to date, but I believe to avoid html tags and syntax as much as 
> possible. I mean the tiddler source should be in wiki syntax in a very 
> simple and clear and easy to understand format.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute

[Morgaine O'Herne]

Thanks. I decided I'd rather use TW5 as a blog than Wordpress.   Might have
some web design clients who think so too. :)

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:44 AM, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>>
>> I just replaced the blog on my newest wordpress site with Tiddlywiki, and
>> it doesn't look half bad.  http://paganwebsites.com/blog
>>
>
> Ha! Interesting you chose to iframe (http://paws.tiddlyspot.com/) of a TW
> into Wordpress. I never seen that before.
>
> J.
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[tw5] Re: CSS Framework - need your advises your idea / comments

[Mohammad]

Thank you Josiah.

Any other comment?

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:08:40 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> You may want to look at Thomas Elmiger's BRICKS. Its a TW for assisting 
> development of CSS for TW. Its advantage is Thomas went through all the 
> "classes" and organised them in a way that substantially reduces complexity 
> in CSS development for TW. 
>
> You need to be aware that some CSS styling in TW is "dynamic" and involves 
> wiki text. Bricks explains a little about that and how to ensure it works 
> correctly. Once you have a nice design in it you can generate a stylesheet 
> for use in other TW and export it.
>
> FWIW, if you decide to use Bricks best to download and use the whole TW. 
> The reason is the update of styling is dynamic and can get confusing if you 
> mix it in with other style systems. Its a design "package."
>
> source: https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html 
>
> discussion: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/qZyhuW3_UyQ/huWHUpCmAAAJ
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
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Re: [tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy

Right. Emergent meaning is a solid thing. That sense of "something" you 
can't quite get yet but you know is real. Its an area where decent software 
design enables "liminal recording" ... i.e. you make a note about something 
as yet vague. Vague but felt. Later you can fill in the gaps.

Josiah

On Monday, 11 June 2018 19:17:09 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> On 11 Jun 2018, at 17:17, @TiddlyTweeter  > wrote:
>
> The POINT of this thread is to suggest nice things that do NOT exist. It 
> is not so easy without any pointers to something that DOES exist. 
>
>
> It echoes one of the revolutionary qualities of hypertext (and wikis in 
> particular): one can link to tiddlers before they exist, causing the 
> reference to be italicised, and the missing tiddler to appear in the 
> “Missing” list in the sidebar. For some writing tasks, one can use the 
> “Missing” list as a dynamic, emergent todo list. Or one can just skirt 
> around a topic, referencing it but not defining it.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] just a test

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mr #Darcy, Professional Necrophiliac, pursues clues to the whereabouts of the 
grave of Georges Canguilhem, genius of the historical body.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting NoteSlam

[Mohammad]

David!
 After you finalize your outline, is it possible to have a checkbox or some 
setting to hide the plus sign?
Also it is good to prevent editing to final user!

Best
Mohammad

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 6:28:38 PM UTC+4:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Yes but the difference is, with that tool all I have to do to start a new 
> level of the outline is hit the indent key. Hard to compete with that in 
> TiddlyWiki...
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 8:51 AM, @TiddlyTweeter  > wrote:
>
>> David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> ... I tend to have a lot of long tiddlers ...
>>
>>
>> Got it. My idea won't work with that mode of organisation. There its more 
>> A Very Smart Contents List. I think.
>>
>> But I did come across "a bloke called Gifford" who make a good basic 
>> guide to TiddlyWiki resources (not in TW) using a really neat Outline with 
>> (brief) inline content that did work well. You know it? :-) J, x
>>  
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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

[Mohammad]

Mark,
 Is there any simple way to turn off or hide the textbox and create child 
button at the bottom at the end?
As you recommended, NoteSlam is more specific for TOC and outliner, but 
your code is great to have several 
small but related texts (like turorial, instruction, ...) in the same TW.

Thank you


On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:41:28 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> See if this works. Be sure to backup first. Replace the main outlier macro 
> with:
>
> \define tagascurrent() [[$(currentTiddler)$]]
> \define draft() Draft of '$(currentTiddler)$'
> \define draftcreated() Draft of '$(currentTiddler)$'!!created
> \define drafttrans() {{Draft of '$(currentTiddler)$'||$:/core/ui/
> EditTemplate}}
> \define twolink(link) <$navigator story="$:/StoryList">[[$link$]] $navigator>
> \define twoutlier(tag,sort:"",selectedTiddler:
> "$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler",unselectedText,missingText,template:"")
> <$tiddler tiddler={{$selectedTiddler$}}>
> 
> <$linkcatcher to="$selectedTiddler$">
> 
> <$macrocall $name="toc-selective-expandable" tag="""$tag$""" sort=
> """$sort$""" itemClassFilter=< selectedTiddler:"""$selectedTiddler$""">>/>
> 
> 
> 
> <$reveal state="""$selectedTiddler$""" type="nomatch" text="">
> <$navigator story="story" history="history" openLinkFromInsideRiver="top">
> <$linkcatcher to="$selectedTiddler$">
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]]" >
> <$reveal state=<> type="nomatch" text="">
> <>
> 
> <$reveal state=<> type="match" text="" class="MAS_scroll" >
> {{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate}}
> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/newitem" tag="input" size="30" default="Child 
> name here" placeholder="Child name here"/>
>  <$button>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle={{$:/newitem}} tags=<> 
> $savetitle="""$selectedTiddler$""" />
> New child Sort by: <$edit-text field="sortby" tag="input" 
> size="5" default="01" placeholder="Sort priority"/>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> <$reveal state="""$selectedTiddler$""" type="match" text="">
> $unselectedText$
> 
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> All this did was to an inject a new class. Then make a stylesheet (tag 
> $:/tags/Stylesheet) like:
>
> .MAS_scroll .tc-tiddler-body {
> overflow: auto; 
> height:300px;
> }
>
> Change the height to whatever default height you want. The bad news is 
> that this will be the minimum size of all tiddlers from now on. Any tiddler 
> longer than the specified height will have a scroll bar.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -- Mark
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 8:05:14 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>  I mean in view time!
>> One example I borrowed from here
>> https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/gui.html#the-search-interface
>>
>> The TOC here of course acts like a sidebar menu which we have in TW. But 
>> the point is when you scroll down the page by end (here for a long tiddler) 
>> you have the TOC in view and simply you can click on the next topic. The 
>> other thing here is if you have a long table of content the sidebar gets a 
>> vertical scroll bar to have it in view again.
>>
>> In summary you have a fixed height for TOC and always it is in view! No 
>> matter how long is content of page (tiddler) you view
>>
>>
>>
>>- One more question: It seems you cannot have more than one Outline 
>>here? Am I right? If so, isn't it better to able to have several outline 
>>with different tag in the same TW file? 
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

[Mohammad]

Hello Mark,
 Sorry for this late reply. Thank you for your effort.
It works for me now! I did some customization.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:01:52 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ok -- forget the macro change. It looks like it can be done just by adding 
> a stylesheet with this content:
>
> .tc-tabbed-table-of-contents-content .tc-tiddler-body {
> overflow: auto; 
> height:200px;
> }
>
> Change height to whatever minimum tiddler body height you want.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 10:11:28 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> See if this works. Be sure to backup first. Replace the main outlier 
>> macro with:
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Or, as they say, "The rest is left to the student as an exercise."


On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 10:17:09 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> On 11 Jun 2018, at 17:17, @TiddlyTweeter  > wrote:
>
> The POINT of this thread is to suggest nice things that do NOT exist. It 
> is not so easy without any pointers to something that DOES exist. 
>
>
> It echoes one of the revolutionary qualities of hypertext (and wikis in 
> particular): one can link to tiddlers before they exist, causing the 
> reference to be italicised, and the missing tiddler to appear in the 
> “Missing” list in the sidebar. For some writing tasks, one can use the 
> “Missing” list as a dynamic, emergent todo list. Or one can just skirt 
> around a topic, referencing it but not defining it.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[Jeremy Ruston]

> On 11 Jun 2018, at 17:17, @TiddlyTweeter  wrote:
> 
> The POINT of this thread is to suggest nice things that do NOT exist. It is 
> not so easy without any pointers to something that DOES exist. 

It echoes one of the revolutionary qualities of hypertext (and wikis in 
particular): one can link to tiddlers before they exist, causing the reference 
to be italicised, and the missing tiddler to appear in the “Missing” list in 
the sidebar. For some writing tasks, one can use the “Missing” list as a 
dynamic, emergent todo list. Or one can just skirt around a topic, referencing 
it but not defining it.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

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7 - The Brilliance Of Led Zeppelin  <-- Tune: Kashmir 


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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I'm giving up that approach as Dave already gave me a beating for 
irritating him :-)

The POINT of this thread is to suggest nice things that do NOT exist. It is 
not so easy without any pointers to something that DOES exist. 

*I* liked ONE sentence with a FAKE revelation. 

I'm gonna divide it in future between IDEA and Resource. So that you can 
see the TW does NOT YET exist.

I'm not so sure it will work, but its fairer.

J.

On Monday, 11 June 2018 18:08:31 UTC+2, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>
> OK, this drives me crazy. Pointing to a "Book" as a source for a TW is not 
> a very good idea. TWs are made up of many, cross linked, individual 
> entries. It's part and parcel of how a wiki works. If you want a prose 
> entry then go to the book or write a document.
>
> On Monday, 11 June 2018 13:04:22 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> 5 - The History And Sociology Of The Potato 
>> 
>>
>
>
> If you want a TW for this kind of stuff then a proof of concept is here 
> http://www.kizar.co.uk/TW/Spuds.html
>  
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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[Dragon Cotterill]

OK, this drives me crazy. Pointing to a "Book" as a source for a TW is not 
a very good idea. TWs are made up of many, cross linked, individual 
entries. It's part and parcel of how a wiki works. If you want a prose 
entry then go to the book or write a document.

On Monday, 11 June 2018 13:04:22 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> 5 - The History And Sociology Of The Potato 
> 
>


If you want a TW for this kind of stuff then a proof of concept is 
here http://www.kizar.co.uk/TW/Spuds.html
 

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

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Jed Carty wrote:
>
> There are a few ways to make a plugin for Bob that would make your kettle 
> turn on at 6:45am.
> My favourite option is to make Bob start singing off key as loudly as 
> possible until the kettle is turned on.
>

rofl! 

If you are looking for a more direct method than it depends on how well 
> your kettle plays with others.
>
> I am looking forward to the day when Robbie and Bob start playing together 
> and take over the world.
>

It might get better that way. 

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

[Jed Carty]

There are a few ways to make a plugin for Bob that would make your kettle 
turn on at 6:45am.
My favourite option is to make Bob start singing off key as loudly as 
possible until the kettle is turned on.

If you are looking for a more direct method than it depends on how well 
your kettle plays with others.

I am looking forward to the day when Robbie and Bob start playing together 
and take over the world.

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

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Ok -- forget the macro change. It looks like it can be done just by adding 
a stylesheet with this content:

.tc-tabbed-table-of-contents-content .tc-tiddler-body {
overflow: auto; 
height:200px;
}

Change height to whatever minimum tiddler body height you want.

-- Mark

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> See if this works. Be sure to backup first. Replace the main outlier macro 
> with:
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

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David Gifford wrote:
>
> ... I was looking forward to seeing a TiddlyWiki on the sociology of 
> potatoes...
>

We need to keep writing about that. The number of potato people is small 
(but significant).

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

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A silly question for Bob. Can Bob program my kettle to boil at 6.45 am? 


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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

got it. agreed. sort of.  

I mean it IS a PITA to refer to a TW not existing. I should probably not do 
that.

BUT the point is they haven't been written yet. 

SHOULD my approach be to not point to anything?

In which case why bother?

Maybe I could do it a different way? Statement then resource. Slightly 
breaks the idea of having one sentence ... but perhaps sensible. To avoid 
frustration such as yours? 

J.



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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

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6 - The Three Jewels Of Buddhism 


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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[David Gifford]

Please don't put 'suggested TiddlyWiki' and then post stuff that are not 
TiddlyWikis. You make me dig through needlessly to see if they are 
TiddlyWikis I should add to the toolmap. I was looking forward to seeing a 
TiddlyWiki on the sociology of potatoes...

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 12:27:10 PM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> 1 - The Languidity Of J.J. Cale 
>  
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW in Public -- "British Sheep Breeds" (#twClassic #animals #Britain)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BUT its still pertinent. I did guess you were taking up on my playfulness 
as a semi-joke.

The RESULT is as good as anything. 

No one needs know it was a 30 minute fun exercise :-) Let them think you 
hot sweat over lambing :-) 

J. x

Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>
> That was just a simple web scrape and Macro to break everything up into 
> common DIVs to be added to the file. Then a quick categorisation based on 
> info from the British Wool Board. Probably took me about 30 mins tops. The 
> idea came from the suggests list, probably as a joke entry. Either way, I 
> was bored at the time, and thought I'd give it a shot. I just used my 
> standard "empty" TWC, which is why it has a shed load of Plugins that 
> really aren't used.
>
> It's not a working Wiki. Just use it as a basis for something else.
>

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[tw5] Re: TW in Public -- "British Sheep Breeds" (#twClassic #animals #Britain)

[Dragon Cotterill]

That was just a simple web scrape and Macro to break everything up into 
common DIVs to be added to the file. Then a quick categorisation based on 
info from the British Wool Board. Probably took me about 30 mins tops. The 
idea came from the suggests list, probably as a joke entry. Either way, I 
was bored at the time, and thought I'd give it a shot. I just used my 
standard "empty" TWC, which is why it has a shed load of Plugins that 
really aren't used.

It's not a working Wiki. Just use it as a basis for something else.

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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

5 - The History And Sociology Of The Potato 


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[tw5] TW in Public -- "British Sheep Breeds" (#twClassic #animals #Britain)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

http://www.kizar.co.uk/TW/BritishSheep.html

(It also illustrates the continuing strength of TiddlyWiki Classic 
.)

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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ha! Wonderful!

Seriously, this stuff is great!

@TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> 4 - British Sheep Breeds 
>> 
>>
>  
Dragon Cotterill wrote: 

> Simples.
> http://www.kizar.co.uk/TW/BritishSheep.html
>

I was thinking I should do one just on Sheep Dog Whistling. I got the 
whistle. I'm struggling a bit with how to get it to work.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

[Dragon Cotterill]

On Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:04:21 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> 4 - British Sheep Breeds 
> 
>

Simples.
http://www.kizar.co.uk/TW/BritishSheep.html
 

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>
> I just replaced the blog on my newest wordpress site with Tiddlywiki, and 
> it doesn't look half bad.  http://paganwebsites.com/blog
>

Ha! Interesting you chose to iframe (http://paws.tiddlyspot.com/) of a TW 
into Wordpress. I never seen that before.

J. 

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[tw5] Re: CSS Framework - need your advises your idea / comments

[@TiddlyTweeter]

You may want to look at Thomas Elmiger's BRICKS. Its a TW for assisting 
development of CSS for TW. Its advantage is Thomas went through all the 
"classes" and organised them in a way that substantially reduces complexity 
in CSS development for TW. 

You need to be aware that some CSS styling in TW is "dynamic" and involves 
wiki text. Bricks explains a little about that and how to ensure it works 
correctly. Once you have a nice design in it you can generate a stylesheet 
for use in other TW and export it.

FWIW, if you decide to use Bricks it may be best to download and use the 
whole TW, NOT add the plugin to another TW. The reason is the update of 
styling is dynamic and can get confusing is you mix it in with other style 
systems. Its a design "package."

source: https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html 

discussion: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/qZyhuW3_UyQ/huWHUpCmAAAJ

Best wishes
Josiah

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